dlb2007
03-12-2008, 02:15 AM
There are two main enemies of the new world order today, their membership is very big and both are gaining soldiers every day. These two "freedom fighting groups" have two very different approaches to the situation.
The first and largest of the two, aproaches the war of freedom vs NWO from a peaceful point of view, it has been the social outcast for many years now, so much so that to many they would feel ashamed to be associated with this group. They are generally regarded as idiots, fools, nutjobs etc. This group is strongest within the west within the very heart of the NWO's places of power. However it also has large membership throughout the world. It promotes a turning away of the current social norms, it protests in numbers against social injustice and even resorts to peaceful non compliance or even total compliance when arrested. This group will soon be classed as Terrorists if the NWO comes into force but the members are willing to go to their deaths in peaceful opposition to the NWO. They will not force their ideology and opposition of the nwo upon the population but will exersize their God given right and duty to oppose the nwo and proclaim their way of opposing it. Doing this means the NWO must discredit this group in the meantime but will eventually if the NWO is implimented this group will be singled out (much like the jews of hitlers time) villified and members will be exterminated. It can be argued that this group is too "soft" especially since the NWO is strongest here, that ID Cards, CCTV Camerers and RFID Chips are hear upon us as we speak.
The second enemy of the NWO is strongest in the Current targeted nations for control of the middle east. This groups ideology is more "pro active" this group will take up arms against the NWO in order to prevent what has happened in the west happen in the middle east, they are already classed as terrorists, already taken away and put into camps, assinated, persecuted and this group is currently the fastest growing of the two main groups, this is because it is the most visible opposition to the NWO, the most "pro active" and there is no doubt that the members of this group will go to their deaths as it is plain for all to see.
There is in the world today to those who wish to help oppose the NWO by helpping one of these strongest groups two paths that one can take. The Peaceful Catholic/Christian path that has seen the NWO prosper in what once was "christendom" but still believe that, love, faith and hope will eventually overcome
Or there is the more pro active Muslim/Islamic path.
One trys to prevent (islam) the other is more likely to destroy the NWO after its implimentation. If the NWO is implimented then islam will have been destroyed/subverted or subdude by that point and catholicism/Christianity the only way left, the NWO's last remaining opposition
I believe faith, hope and love willout!
noobcybot
05-12-2008, 12:50 AM
So the Muslims or the Christians are going to stop the NWO?
Only the people can stop this from taking place they just need to become aware and then you will see change it just takes time and something has to break before we all become slaves to an unyielding enemy of the people.
dlb2007
05-12-2008, 04:37 PM
The muslims are opposing the NWO in the middle east at the moment. Christians are opposing them in a different way in the 1st world.
It is prophesised that the christians will overcome after a great chastisment
size_of_light
05-12-2008, 04:41 PM
the two main enemies of the NWO
You and Me.
dlb2007
05-12-2008, 04:55 PM
"You and Me"
are you mulsim or christian?
I am a Catholic.
kidsarocker
23-09-2009, 04:50 PM
The muslims are opposing the NWO in the middle east at the moment. Christians are opposing them in a different way in the 1st world.
It is prophesised that the christians will overcome after a great chastisment
Islam and Christianity will join together to defeat the enemy..yes there will be a holy war but not one that many perceive as Christian v Muslim but God v Satan..are you prepared?
scooby85
23-09-2009, 07:06 PM
Islam and Christianity will join together to defeat the enemy..yes there will be a holy war but not one that many perceive as Christian v Muslim but God v Satan..are you prepared?
The truce and joint Christian-Muslim campaign against a common enemy -- this is referred to as the "Battle Between the Two Great Armies" or Armageddon (at the conclusion of which all war technology shall become unusable) -- followed by a Christian vs. Muslim war -- this is called the "Great Slaughter" (al-malhama al-kubra) -- as stated in the following hadith:
"You will make a firm truce with the Christians (al-Rum) until you and they wage a campaign against an enemy that is attacking them. You will be granted victory and great spoils. Then you will alight in a plain surrounded by hills. There, someone among the Christians shall say: 'The Cross has overcome!' whereupon someone among the Muslims shall say: 'Nay, Allah has overcome!' and shall go and break the cross.
The Christians shall kill him, then the Muslims shall take up their arms and the two sides shall fall upon each other.
Allah shall grant martyrdom to that group of Muslims. After that the Christians shall say to their leader: 'We shall relieve you of the Arabs,' and they shall gather up for the great battle (al-malhama). They shall come to you under eighty flags, each flag gathering 12,000 troops." [approx. 1 million]
scooby85
23-09-2009, 07:12 PM
The Christian army shall be the aggressor, and they will come to a place called al-A`maq or Dabiq in al-Sham as stated in Sahih Muslim. During that time a large number of the Christians shall defect and enter Islam.
5- Between the time of the initial Christian treachery and their coming out to Dabiq, the Prophet said that nine months will elapse, during which the Mahdi will wage two campaigns initiated by the Dajjal (antichrist/illuminati), one against the Arabs that shall not recognize him, and one against the Persians of Iran that shall not recognize him. Both campaigns are mentioned in the hadith Sahih Muslim. Included in the former group will be all the so-called followers of "Qur'an-only" who will reject the Mahdi on the pretext that he is not mentioned in the Qur'an. Among the latter group will be all the so-called lovers of Ahl al-Bayt who will reject the Mahdi on the pretext that he is not their disappeared twelfth Imam, al-`Askari, whose reappearance they presently await.
6- Al-Mahdi will come out of Madina at the head of a huge army to face al-Dajjal and the Christians for the Great Slaughter. This shall take place in Sham.
7- The Mahdi will find himself surrounded by the armies of the Dajjal. `Isa shall descend, lead the Muslim armies out, and kill the Dajjal. The rest of the Muslim campaigns shall remove all trace of unbelief from the face of the earth.
8- At this time Constantinople shall be taken by peaceful means. The army that will conquer it shall consist in seventy thousand of the Banu Ishaq i.e. Western Muslims and their sole weapons will be Shahada and Takbir as stated in Sahih Muslim. This is the event referred to in the hadith we cited initially.
9- The Mahdi shall defeat the following in rapid succession: the last third of the Jews (two thirds having perished at Armageddon); the "Turks" -- also called "Khawz and Kirman" in the hadith -- whose features in the hadith are applicable to both Central and Far-Eastern Asians; Gog and Magog.
10- Other major signs* follow before the rising of the Hour, such as the coming out of the Beast and the rising of the Sun in the West, at which time the gate of repentence shall be closed shut forever, and Allah knows best.
kidsarocker
23-09-2009, 07:56 PM
The Christian army shall be the aggressor, and they will come to a place called al-A`maq or Dabiq in al-Sham as stated in Sahih Muslim. During that time a large number of the Christians shall defect and enter Islam.
5- Between the time of the initial Christian treachery and their coming out to Dabiq, the Prophet said that nine months will elapse, during which the Mahdi will wage two campaigns initiated by the Dajjal (antichrist/illuminati), one against the Arabs that shall not recognize him, and one against the Persians of Iran that shall not recognize him. Both campaigns are mentioned in the hadith Sahih Muslim. Included in the former group will be all the so-called followers of "Qur'an-only" who will reject the Mahdi on the pretext that he is not mentioned in the Qur'an. Among the latter group will be all the so-called lovers of Ahl al-Bayt who will reject the Mahdi on the pretext that he is not their disappeared twelfth Imam, al-`Askari, whose reappearance they presently await.
6- Al-Mahdi will come out of Madina at the head of a huge army to face al-Dajjal and the Christians for the Great Slaughter. This shall take place in Sham.
7- The Mahdi will find himself surrounded by the armies of the Dajjal. `Isa shall descend, lead the Muslim armies out, and kill the Dajjal. The rest of the Muslim campaigns shall remove all trace of unbelief from the face of the earth.
8- At this time Constantinople shall be taken by peaceful means. The army that will conquer it shall consist in seventy thousand of the Banu Ishaq i.e. Western Muslims and their sole weapons will be Shahada and Takbir as stated in Sahih Muslim. This is the event referred to in the hadith we cited initially.
9- The Mahdi shall defeat the following in rapid succession: the last third of the Jews (two thirds having perished at Armageddon); the "Turks" -- also called "Khawz and Kirman" in the hadith -- whose features in the hadith are applicable to both Central and Far-Eastern Asians; Gog and Magog.
10- Other major signs* follow before the rising of the Hour, such as the coming out of the Beast and the rising of the Sun in the West, at which time the gate of repentence shall be closed shut forever, and Allah knows best.
Why would the Christians wage war with the muslims when their common enemy is still alive?
Wouldn't they keep the alliance until the antichrist has been defeated by Jesus and when this happens, why would jesus let both side fight against each other?
eternal_spirit
23-09-2009, 08:03 PM
That's what I was on about lastnight Kid. Sort it out Scoobs.
dusan
23-09-2009, 09:17 PM
i think NWO has A LOT of enemies already
im not a muslim or a christian but i believe strongly that times will get tougher, and we'll have wars and all the shit...
but in the end "the aware people" in "the right vibration" will overcome
not without sacrifices but without fighting at all.
i think the religous people will be the first going down with all the sheeps...
bless ya all(and i mean all of you)
jakemaverick
23-09-2009, 09:55 PM
how do i sign up to the second one?
scooby85
24-09-2009, 03:23 AM
Why would the Christians wage war with the muslims when their common enemy is still alive?
They wouldnt, The islamic army from the south (iran?) and christian army from the north (russia?) will join forces and defeat the dajjal (illuminati).
why would jesus let both side fight against each other?
[017:081] And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish."
In a normal scenario prophet jesus/eesa wouldnt let them fight but this is the end of the world stuff, the truth would have to come out. Jesus never called his religion christianity, moses didnt call his religion (judaism) they were people who 'submitted to the will of god', which in arabic translates to mu'mineen (muslim). If you got a few minutes have a read of the following article, itll explain it better than me! you might not beleive in it but its an interesting read...
THE DAJJAAL
The Dajjal will appear as the end of the world approaches. The time he stays will be a time of immense trial for all humanity. Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) told us that, 'No tribulation on the face of the Earth since Allah created the children of Adam will be greater than the trial of the Dajjal. Verily, no prophet was sent who did not warn his people of the Dajjal, and I am the last of the prophets, and you are the last of the nations, and so he will inevitably appear among you." (ibn Majah, ibn Khuzaymah, and al-Hakim). Most of the Dajjal's followers will be from the : "Seventy thousands of the Jews of Isfahan (Iran) will follow the Dajjal, wearing cloaks." (hadith). The Jews will believe that he is a miracle from Allah, that he will return to them their Kingdom (Israel). They will call him the Messiah, son of David.
WHEN WILL HE APPEAR ??
Just before the appearance of the Dajjal, the Muslims will be at the peak of their military power. It seems that the Dajjal's purpose will be to destroy the Muslims' power. At that time, Muslims will make a peace treaty with the Christians, and together they will conquer and win, but the Christians will then break the treaty. Prophet Muhammad, (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), informed us, "You will make a peace treaty with them [Christians] and together you will invade an enemy beyond Rome. You will be victorious and take much booty. Then, you will camp on a hilly pasture when one of the [Christians] will come and raise a cross and say: 'Victory to the Cross', so one of the Muslims will come and kill him. Then the [Christians] will break the treaty and prepare for al-Malhamah." (Abu Dawud).
AL MALHAMAH
As this battle between Muslims and Christians approaches, men will abandon Christianity to embrace Islam in large numbers. They will become the best of Muslims, and the remaining Christians will pursue them aggressively. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "The Hour will not come until the [Christians] camp at al-Amaq or Dabiq. An army, composed of the best people on Earth at that time, will come out of Madinah to meet them. When they arrange themselves in ranks, the [Christians] will say: 'Do not stand between us and those who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight them.' The Muslims will say: 'No! by Allah, we will not stand aside and let you fight our brothers.' Then they will fight. One third will run away and Allah will never forgive them; one third will be killed and will be the best of the martyrs in the sight of Allah; another third, who have never been subject to trials, will win and conquer Constantinople. After they hang their swords on the olive trees and begin to divide the booty, Satan will shout to them that the Dajjal has taken their places amongst their family. They will run out but will find that it is not true. However when they reach ash-Sham (the area of present day Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon), the Dajjal will appear. While they are preparing to fight him, and drawing up their ranks, Salaat time will come and then, Eesa the son of Maryam will descend." (Muslim).
Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has talked at length about this battle - how terrible it will be and the great sense of sacrifice the Muslims will display. He said, "The Hour will not come until people will not be able to divide inheritance, nor rejoice over booty." Pointing toward ash-Sham, he said: "An enemy will gather forces against the Muslims, and the Muslims will gather forces against them.' A companion asked: 'Do you mean the [Christians]?' He said: 'Yes, and at that time there will be terrible fighting. The Muslims will prepare a detachment to fight to death, and not return unless they are victorious. They will fight until night intervenes, both sides will take booty but none will be victorious, and the detachment will perish. Then the Muslims will prepare another detachment to fight to death, and not return unless they are victorious. They will fight until night intervenes, both sides will take booty but none will be victorious. On the fourth day, the Muslims who are left will return to fight, and Allah will make their enemy to be defeated. There will be a battle the like of which has never been seen, so that even if a bird were to pass between the rank, it will fall dead before it reaches the end. Out of a family of one hundred, only one man will survive. So, how could he rejoice over any booty or divide any inheritance?"' (hadith)
IDENTIFYING THE DAJJAAL
The Dajjal will claim that he is Allah. He will perform mighty acts to convince people of his claim. But, every true believer, whether literate or illiterate, will be able to read the word kafir on his forehead, as stated by Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). He (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has also described his physical appearance as: short, fat, red-faced, bow-legged, with curly hair and one-eyed. One of his eyes is extinguished, and is neither protruding nor deep-seated, but resembles a floating grape. "If you are confused, know that your Lord is not one-eyed, and that no one will be able to see the Lord [in this world]." (paraphrased from Bukhari, Muslim, Ahmad and Abu Dawud). And in the narration related by Muslim and Bukhari, the Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) told us that, "There has never been a Prophet who did not warn his people against the one-eyed Dajjal. Verily he is one-eyed and your lord is not one eyed. On his forehead will be written the letters Kaf, Fa', Ra, i.e., the root letters for 'kafir' or 'unbeliever').” These words will actually be written between his eyes on the forehead.
He will move with great swiftness around the Earth, "like a cloud driven by the wind.” (hadith) Also, Prophet Mohammed (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has informed us, "He [the Dajjal) will have two flowing rivers. One will appear to be pure water, and the other will appear to be flaming fire. Whosoever lives to see that, let him choose the river that seems to be fire, then let him close his eyes and drink from it, for it will be cold water" "...and the cool water will be fire." (hadith).
The Dajjal will acquire assistance from devils: “He will say to a Bedouin: 'What do you think if I bring your father and mother back to life for you'? Will you bear witness that I am your Lord?' The Bedouin will say, 'Yes', so two devils will assume the appearance of his father and mother and will say: 'O son follow him, for he is your Lord.’” (ibn Majah, ibn Khuzaymah, and al-Hakim).
Animals and objects will execute his orders: "He will come to people and call them, and they will believe in him and answer his call. Upon his order, the sky will rain, and the Earth will produce crops. Their animals will graze on these crops, and will come back with their udders full of milk and their flanks stretched. Then he will go to other people and will call them, but they will reject his call. He will depart from them and then they will suffer great famine and will possess nothing in the form of wealth. He will pass by the wasteland and say: 'bring forth your treasures' and its treasures will follow him like swarms of bees." (hadith).
His time will be filled with extreme trials as Allah created him to be a test for people. Only those whose faith is strong will resist the great temptation and might of the Dajjal. He will rule on Earth for forty days but they would not be like other days. They are: "Forty days, and one of these days will be like a year, another day like a month, yet another like a week, and the rest will have the same length as normal days. The companions who were always concerned about the matters of faith and worship, asked Prophet Muhammad: 'O Messenger of Allah, for the day which is like a year, will one day's prayer be sufficient?' He said: 'No, you must estimate the time and observe the salah.’” (hadith). This means that the day will truly be lengthened, and it will not be due to the people's imagination.
Prophet Mohammed (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be no town the Dajjal will not visit, except Makkah and Madinah, for all their gates will be guarded by angels surrounding them. So he will camp at the salt-marsh (near Madinah). Madinah will be shaken by three tremors, after which every disbeliever and hypocrite will leave it." (hadith).
The Dajjal will finally be destroyed by Prophet Eesa (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) who will descend to Earth and spread peace.