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mercuryrapids
02-12-2008, 04:01 PM
Menezes verdict choice limited (link) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7760684.stm)

The jury at the inquest into the death of Jean Charles de Menezes will not be able to consider a verdict of unlawful killing, the coroner has said.

Sir Michael Wright said that having heard all the evidence, a verdict of unlawful killing was "not justified".

Lawyers for the de Menezes family are now going to the High Court to apply for a judicial review of the decision.

Mr de Menezes, 27, was shot dead by police after he was mistaken for one of the failed 21 July 2005 bombers.

Sir Michael's ruling came as he began his summing up of the case on Tuesday and leaves the jury to choose between an open, narrative or lawful killing verdict.

"In directing you that you cannot return a verdict of unlawful killing, I am not saying that nothing went wrong in a police operation which resulted in the killing of an innocent man," he told the hearing.

But in narrowing down the choice of verdict, he added: "All interested persons agree that a verdict of unlawful killing could only be left to you if you could be sure that a specific officer had committed a very serious crime - murder or manslaughter."

Sir Michael also warned jurors that they must not attach any criminal or civil fault to any individuals.

What a surprise. :rolleyes: An inncent man gets blown away in public, the police lie about what happened and 'it's nobody's fault'... Aaaargh! :mad:

signalnorth
02-12-2008, 05:22 PM
Menezes verdict choice limited (link) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7760684.stm)



What a surprise. :rolleyes: An inncent man gets blown away in public, the police lie about what happened and 'it's nobody's fault'... Aaaargh! :mad:

Yep that's about the sum of it. Still, Eastenders is on later...............

real6
02-12-2008, 05:24 PM
Menezes verdict choice limited (link) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7760684.stm)



What a surprise. :rolleyes: An inncent man gets blown away in public, the police lie about what happened and 'it's nobody's fault'... Aaaargh! :mad:



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24001

alfrmo
02-12-2008, 10:34 PM
What a farce, he was murdered, taken out on the orders of Senior Police Commanders, who should be held to account for their incompetence.:mad:

stelios
03-12-2008, 04:12 AM
This is utter bollocks.
How on earth by any stretch of any insane imagination can it be that a man is shot SEVEN times into his head at point blank range using Israeli made DUM DUM hollow nosed bullets, and this is NOT unlawful?
Ofcourse it is fucking unlawful killing.
It is state sponsored murder.

brainstormer
03-12-2008, 08:34 AM
Just read this in the Metro this morning after a late night at the jazz bar in Edinburgh; "Police killing of Menezes not unlawful"

...BOLLOX! :mad:

...of course those bloodsucking criminals at the top will wean their way out of it. C*NTS! <== want to buy a vowel?

deany
03-12-2008, 08:59 AM
this makes me sick to the stomach.

Brits will just accept whatever is put in front of them (generalising a bit I know but for the majoroity this is true).

Most people will blindly accept that this can not possibly be an unlawful killing if the authorities tell them it isn't....anyone using their comon sense can see that of course it was unlwaful, there aree so many holes in this trial it beggars belief!

I feel so sorry for his family and to be honest for all os us too. people need to stand up against this decision now.

illuminatiman
03-12-2008, 10:40 AM
this makes me sick to the stomach.

Brits will just accept whatever is put in front of them (generalising a bit I know but for the majoroity this is true).

Most people will blindly accept that this can not possibly be an unlawful killing if the authorities tell them it isn't....anyone using their comon sense can see that of course it was unlwaful, there aree so many holes in this trial it beggars belief!

I feel so sorry for his family and to be honest for all os us too. people need to stand up against this decision now.

If a verdict of unlawful death can not be reached, then this is nothing but cold blooded state sanctioned murder! His family deserve to see these socialpathic trigger happy killers brought to justice! :mad:

brainstormer
03-12-2008, 01:03 PM
this makes me sick to the stomach.

Brits will just accept whatever is put in front of them (generalising a bit I know but for the majoroity this is true).

If you want generalising, the whole acceptance thing seems to be a worldwide phenomenon, not just limited to the UK. For example; most Americans accept the 'official' 9/11 story etc etc.

deany
03-12-2008, 01:38 PM
If you want generalising, the whole acceptance thing seems to be a worldwide phenomenon, not just limited to the UK. For example; most Americans accept the 'official' 9/11 story etc etc.

fair point brainstormer, I keep trying to show as many people as I possibly can all the evidence I can find relating to stories like this one which is hidden from the public. I won't detail it all here as I don't want to take the thread off topic, one thing at the time....