BNP...Saint or Sinner?

[free thinker]

Is Corruption being played out before our very eyes?....Look at the use of police powers being used in and around British Political Parties...surely this has to raise some eyebrows...it does me!

BNP members exposed via a 'leaked' list, Blears ranting about dissafected people supporting 'racist' Parties, bad press or very little un-biased media ect ect...
Just why are people seemingly following what we are told by the Biased Media of our country....they lied to us about Iraq, we never get unsanitised news...and i for one think that we should....afterall,you can get all the porn you want on the internet:eek:...funny thing is, the truth is a lot harder to find!! :rolleyes:

[diamondgeezer]

Agreed, this whole BNP 'leak' thing stinks of wrongness.

I personally find the BNP abhorrent, but as an Englishman will fight & die if necessary for free speech and their right to exist, as would most.

:(That right to fight & die is what is being taken away from us

[1694]

Agreed, this whole BNP 'leak' thing stinks of wrongness.

I personally find the BNP abhorrent, but as an Englishman will fight & die if necessary for free speech and their right to exist, as would most.

:(That right to fight is what is being taken away from us

I agree with all but the last sentance which I have corrected. :eek:

[clozaril]

probably been said before, isn't it a way of taking the party apart, combustion before dissoloution. a way of purging the party

you know the bnp are on to common purpose also, and they sure as hell don't want to join the euro.

[diamondgeezer]

probably been said before, isn't it a way of taking the party apart

That's the way it looks on the surface for sure, but personally I think there's more to it than just that.

Anyone here been to a non-democratic country?

What's happening here now looks SO much like the mindfuck I've seen elsewhere

[curly]

probably been said before, isn't it a way of taking the party apart, combustion before dissoloution. a way of purging the party

you know the bnp are on to common purpose also, and they sure as hell don't want to join the euro.

They also want to stop building in the countryside,make towns self-sustainable and surrounded by orchards,produce will be grown locally.They don't like the fact that millions of people who have no affinity with these islands treat the locals like shit.

[1694]

As I have said in other threads:
- Purging of right wing supporters from the civil service/positions of power
- One nationlised superbank
- State subsidised workforce (en route)
- Olympic hosts

No not China...England.

[grenadene]

BNP eww...!

Funnily enough I'm big into National self sufficiency, strong local economies etc...Not because I'm proud to be British, but because its a nicer way to live. Shipping in the natural resources of other countries is bound to cause immigration..... we've trashed the economy of other nations to the point of them having to migrate to find a better standard of living.

Lets face it most people are showing an interest in the BNP because of immigrant workers, not because they are onto Common Purpose. The BNP needs to purge itself, change its name, dye its hair etc... before it'll be the least bit attractive to a hippy like me.

[diamondgeezer]

BNP eww...!

Funnily enough I'm big into National self sufficiency, strong local economies etc...Not because I'm proud to be British, but because its a nicer way to live. Shipping in the natural resources of other countries is bound to cause immigration..... we've trashed the economy of other nations to the point of them having to migrate to find a better standard of living.

Lets face it most people are showing an interest in the BNP because of immigrant workers, not because they are onto Common Purpose. The BNP needs to purge itself, change its name, dye its hair etc... before it'll be the least bit attractive to a hippy like me.

:Dlol I'm a hippy too, sold out tho just like we all did..

You're right: the BNP attract because our national identity has/is being stripped from us courtesy of the EU and our self-serving 'leaders', NOT because the average brit is racist.

:(This nightmare is being created to MAKE us racist...

[clozaril]

i think the problem with bnp is mainly perception we nest it with combat 18 and the NF which it isn't.

in the last local elections i voted independent because the councillor is very approachable and has regular ward meeting once a month which i have attended.

bnp to my eyes is also a grass roots type of party who because they want power in councils listen to the people, perhaps i'm wrong.

but combat 18 it certainly isn't

[soleil]

Like every person under the sun, I don't think any party is completely saintly or sinful. However, its negative elements are magnified by the media while Labour's are spun away into the memory hole.

[Ian2day]

The list is a smear by the conservative Homer office/MI5 doh!

[keystone]

The list is a smear by the conservative Homer office/MI5 doh!What ARE you on? :D

[peachped]

Interesting programme this 'the moral maze' available til weds 3rd of dec.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fl5w5/Moral_

[le chuck]

If the BNP were in power, we would be in a better state than what we are under Labour.

[duckingdafta]

I thought politics and religion were supposed to be separate entities.

[bendelapidate]

The trouble is, if a party which believes in sovereignty for Britain were to be elected, the international banking elite would find a way of destabilising Britain like they have done in Zimbabwe. Any country that resists domination is treated this way. It's easy when you control the money system.

Just as the banking scum and their private intelligence agencies and armies - partly funded by "illegal" drugs (which is why we must legalise all drugs) have wrought havoc around the world (Mumbai being their latest stunt), they would have no hesitation about doing the same here if they saw it as justified in their sick agenda.

[tyler]

The trouble is, if a party which believes in sovereignty for Britain were to be elected, the international banking elite would find a way of destabilising Britain like they have done in Zimbabwe. Any country that resists domination is treated this way. It's easy when you control the money system.

Just as the banking scum and their private intelligence agencies and armies - partly funded by "illegal" drugs (which is why we must legalise all drugs) have wrought havoc around the world (Mumbai being their latest stunt), they would have no hesitation about doing the same here if they saw it as justified in their sick agenda.

Thankyou, another enlightened person here. There are a few of us!

[curly]

BNP eww...!

Funnily enough I'm big into National self sufficiency, strong local economies etc...Not because I'm proud to be British, but because its a nicer way to live. Shipping in the natural resources of other countries is bound to cause immigration..... we've trashed the economy of other nations to the point of them having to migrate to find a better standard of living.

Lets face it most people are showing an interest in the BNP because of immigrant workers, not because they are onto Common Purpose. The BNP needs to purge itself, change its name, dye its hair etc... before it'll be the least bit attractive to a hippy like me.

yes britain has been and still is a cancer in many foreign countries,destroying culture,local economies and life.But in my town i remember speaking to londoners,many i'm sure if given the chance would vote bnp,whole streets of londoners who moved away into new council estates en masse,the reason they did this was not because they were proud to be british but because they thought that it would be a safer place for their families to walk the streets as some immigrants would mug and batter old and defenceless people senseless,this never happened before.There was also the fact that rape was becoming commonplace,the streets were no longer as safe once the locals started being the minority.The n.f i think was the answer to this for a lot of people as no-one would listen to them,but the press did an even bigger hatchet job on them,destroying them.I'm not saying they were good guys but the lefty wankers in the press and the public schoolboys in government who never grew up in these places always portrayed them as skinhead thugs,but angry young men know bullshit politicians will do nothing,they can see the enemy in their opinion and want to fight them.Steven lawrence is a prime example of the press hypocrisy,they bang on about this for years when hundreds probably thousands of indiginous people have been murdered by people who see us as the enemy but that's never racist.People will have many different reasons not just immigration for joining the bnp,theres that much to choose from.

[grenadene]

yes britain has been and still is a cancer in many foreign countries,destroying culture,local economies and life.But in my town i remember speaking to londoners,many i'm sure if given the chance would vote bnp,whole streets of londoners who moved away into new council estates en masse,the reason they did this was not because they were proud to be british but because they thought that it would be a safer place for their families to walk the streets as some immigrants would mug and batter old and defenceless people senseless,this never happened before.There was also the fact that rape was becoming commonplace,the streets were no longer as safe once the locals started being the minority.The n.f i think was the answer to this for a lot of people as no-one would listen to them,but the press did an even bigger hatchet job on them,destroying them.I'm not saying they were good guys but the lefty wankers in the press and the public schoolboys in government who never grew up in these places always portrayed them as skinhead thugs,but angry young men know bullshit politicians will do nothing,they can see the enemy in their opinion and want to fight them.Steven lawrence is a prime example of the press hypocrisy,they bang on about this for years when hundreds probably thousands of indiginous people have been murdered by people who see us as the enemy but that's never racist.People will have many different reasons not just immigration for joining the bnp,theres that much to choose from.

Sadly I don't think it makes a shred of difference which of the main parties are in power. There is a baton of power that is passed between them as they hike ever onwards up the bottoms of big business. They just make 'lefty' noises to appease those who suffered under the Cons and in a year or so the whole thing will reverse and the Westminster cretins will start making 'righty' noises to drum up a few 'honeymoon' years.... repeat as necessary till everyone gives up the will to fight any more. I imagine any political party will have been suitably doctored before they have half a chance of governing, the BNP included.

In its simplest form... there are some chaps who went to public school that think they are of the calibre to govern us. Local councils are merely dissemination points for government spew...Hello! Do we need people lording it up over us? playing on our fears to get themselves in the driving seat. We have got so used to being governed that we can't think for ourselves, yet these chaps are just other humans? How can the minister for agriculture suddenly become the minister for transport unless he is some kind of super genius.

If the BNP doesn't want to be seen as the NIMBY party it needs to speak up about ''the war on terror' and other associated nonsenses that do nothing for our safety and costs the tax payer a fortune. Some people are looking to the BNP(rather narrow mindedly imo) for a solution to the immigration which is part of a much bigger picture, some of these same people are busily lapping up the islamaphobic propaganda in the press. If the BNP want to do some serious good then they should get their whistles out.

If the BNP has an exit strategy to get us off the world stage, ditch the imperialism (which some folk are secretly proud of) then I'd be very interested in hearing it :)

[nofuture]

Interesting programme this 'the moral maze' available til weds 3rd of dec.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00fl5w5/Moral_

Featuring the Zionist Jew Melanie Phillips. The Zionists are in bed with the Nazis (again)

[free thinker]

As an Englishman myself, i must admit, i feel that it has come to the stage that No party in westminster represents me, Throughout the years all i have heard is "vote for us..and we will do this for you"....and " we are for you and your family"....Bollox you did nothing for me, or my family....and i am sick of your lies and the years you have had a chance to do something, and what have any of you done?

I have lost faith in any (and every) MP currently in parliment, you should be ahamed of yourselves for turning your back on us after begging for our vote, we trusted that you would at least try and represent us, and you did nothing..

Come next election i will not be voting for any of you leeches, i have had enough of the status quo, the 'moth at the lightbulb' is no more....i see all of you for what you are, and i will be voting for someone else...

My Motherland is England, My Nationality is English, I am proud to be English, this means that if you come here to my Country, you should understand that it is steeped in history as a Country of the english, if you as a visitor to this Country, have a problem with it, may i suggest that you find another Country instead. (Rant over)

What is so strange about germans, french, indians or whoever wanting to keep their identities...Nothing

It is only here in the UK, some foriegners think that using the racist card, entitles them to do as they wish...and for years it did!

Our Country is full...if it were a bus, and you were waiting at the stop and it didnt stop for you, is that racism..no its FULL.

[free_soul]

Is Corruption being played out before our very eyes?....Look at the use of police powers being used in and around British Political Parties...surely this has to raise some eyebrows...it does me!

BNP members exposed via a 'leaked' list, Blears ranting about dissafected people supporting 'racist' Parties, bad press or very little un-biased media ect ect...
Just why are people seemingly following what we are told by the Biased Media of our country....they lied to us about Iraq, we never get unsanitised news...and i for one think that we should....afterall,you can get all the porn you want on the internet:eek:...funny thing is, the truth is a lot harder to find!! :rolleyes:

I dont get these they sound a good party but at the same time they scare me for some reason. On there home page the is a picture were half is the Union Jack and on the other half looks like a pic from Jap with a tank and a soldier standing in from of it.

The reason the cops got sacked (the reason they had to use to avoid an investigation) is that these police were shown to be following a political party. No acting officer of the law is alowed to activly support a political campaign.
We need to "leak" labour and lib dems and see if any heads roll lol

[curly]

As an Englishman myself, i must admit, i feel that it has come to the stage that No party in westminster represents me, Throughout the years all i have heard is "vote for us..and we will do this for you"....and " we are for you and your family"....Bollox you did nothing for me, or my family....and i am sick of your lies and the years you have had a chance to do something, and what have any of you done?

I have lost faith in any (and every) MP currently in parliment, you should be ahamed of yourselves for turning your back on us after begging for our vote, we trusted that you would at least try and represent us, and you did nothing..

Come next election i will not be voting for any of you leeches, i have had enough of the status quo, the 'moth at the lightbulb' is no more....i see all of you for what you are, and i will be voting for someone else...

My Motherland is England, My Nationality is English, I am proud to be English, this means that if you come here to my Country, you should understand that it is steeped in history as a Country of the english, if you as a visitor to this Country, have a problem with it, may i suggest that you find another Country instead. (Rant over)

What is so strange about germans, french, indians or whoever wanting to keep their identities...Nothing

It is only here in the UK, some foriegners think that using the racist card, entitles them to do as they wish...and for years it did!

Our Country is full...if it were a bus, and you were waiting at the stop and it didnt stop for you, is that racism..no its FULL.

members of parliament just jump straight on the gravy train as soon as they get there and do whatever the whips tell them,making a mockery of democracy.Don't think i'd vote for anyone again.
i know what you mean,i'm not too bothered about being english that never did anyone much good other than materially but i care about the people and culture around me and the bnp appear to be the only party that does the same.Isn't it strange even in our own country we're a bit like israelis as the welsh and cornish would say we don't belong here.

[free thinker]

I hear what you are saying, but at least voting for another party, other than the main three may just make the shafting that we get from politicians, a little less painful:eek:

[curly]

what do mean wake up,stop blowing smoke up your own arse and being such a drama queen,no-one in here said they were supporting the bnp and they were going to save us.You managed to divide yourself from 99% of the population by calling people sheeple,how clever does that make you then?The fact that griffin went to oxford means you may be right about controlling but i doubt it,i think labour are lashing out at every party in an underhand way and the bnp may stand to gain more than most if things go tits up soon.

[curly]

Sadly I don't think it makes a shred of difference which of the main parties are in power. There is a baton of power that is passed between them as they hike ever onwards up the bottoms of big business. They just make 'lefty' noises to appease those who suffered under the Cons and in a year or so the whole thing will reverse and the Westminster cretins will start making 'righty' noises to drum up a few 'honeymoon' years.... repeat as necessary till everyone gives up the will to fight any more. I imagine any political party will have been suitably doctored before they have half a chance of governing, the BNP included.

In its simplest form... there are some chaps who went to public school that think they are of the calibre to govern us. Local councils are merely dissemination points for government spew...Hello! Do we need people lording it up over us? playing on our fears to get themselves in the driving seat. We have got so used to being governed that we can't think for ourselves, yet these chaps are just other humans? How can the minister for agriculture suddenly become the minister for transport unless he is some kind of super genius.

If the BNP doesn't want to be seen as the NIMBY party it needs to speak up about ''the war on terror' and other associated nonsenses that do nothing for our safety and costs the tax payer a fortune. Some people are looking to the BNP(rather narrow mindedly imo) for a solution to the immigration which is part of a much bigger picture, some of these same people are busily lapping up the islamaphobic propaganda in the press. If the BNP want to do some serious good then they should get their whistles out.

If the BNP has an exit strategy to get us off the world stage, ditch the imperialism (which some folk are secretly proud of) then I'd be very interested in hearing it :)

I think they have quite a way to go before they[they might not include the leader] begin to understand the war on terror,well put it this way i wouldn't like to be a muslim if they win a general election.

[tyler]

The BNP will come nowhere near winning an election. They are just a safety valve for us all to let off some steam. They will be controlled just like all the other parties.
Voting will achieve nothing. We need to get out on the streets and stay out!

A general strike is the weapon they fear. A total halt on everything. Take to the streets like thay did in some of the eastern European countries and do some lampost hanging! Eventually the scum got back into control in those countries or the mafia did but it put the shits up the elite and got rid of a few of their puppets.