Let's Get To The Crux

[banoyes]

This is the way it works.
If you doubt that the Illuminati exists ,
then just stop here,there's no need for you to read further.

I'll start here because this is the crux.

Freemasonry lays claim to existing since Adam and Eve
They were around when the pyramids were being constructed, how the pyramids were built is not a consideration - a topic for further investigation.
It matters not, Freemasons were there.

Freemasonry has always been attached to rulers,Kings,Popes and those in influential positions, be they writers, explorers,musicians,educators or financial.
Freemasonry is responsible for the foundation of many of "societies" institutions

Oxford is one example of Freemasons involvement in "education"
The Mormon religion an example of there involvement in "religion"
The "City of London" an example of their involvement in finances
There are many other examples , this is simply to point out the obvious.

The initial founders of Freemasonry ( un known) realized that people could not be controlled through a single system, a single train of thought,one idea.
The vagaries of humanity required a more diverse process.

They started other groups which would included people who were led by one thing or another to different views of the way life should be
Hence the Ku Klux Klan, the AMA, the Ordo Templi Orientis, the Rosicrucian's, the Rotary Club,Elks,Skull and Bones and on and on, there are so many off shoots from Freemasonry it may be impossible to list them all. Just a list of the schools would be long and involved -Yale is one of the better known.

The point is, Freemasonry has spread it's deceptions far and deep in the worlds culture.

The claim by Freemasons is always the same- they are a divergent group under no single umbrella and they point out "Oh that's irregular, that's not recognized, that's a different Rite, we do not take oaths like that ,we are different. That is the the plan, that is the cover.

The true control of Masonry is the group ,we regular people ,know as the Illuminati.

The organization of Freemasonry is world wide, the people who are in positions of power, have ,through out history been members of Freemasonry. They are pushing the ancient Agenda. Control and dominance of humankind.

The Illuminati consists of the seats of power in all of the structures Freemasons have developed, be they religious, financial,educational, political, media/news/entertainment. The Illuminati need the cover of Masonry,they need "good men being made better" ( odd, good men taking blood oaths to "Worshipful Masters") -any way

The Illuminati forms a plot,this is seeped down into the regular Masonic Lodges,this becomes an idea in the separate lodges, a seed of instruction. The Illuminati do not care who recognizes whom,they know the oaths taken to secrecy secure them.

Well I have gone on long enough for one post,even though I cut a lot of corners in getting here,that is the simple base of Freemasons deception.

I have already posted about Freemasons connection to wars ,the mafia,the medical criminals and a couple other Freemason "enterprises".

If you have information about Freemason involvement in an institution or movement or any social structure I hope you will post it.This need light shone on it.
This is a fraternity that has been nothing but trouble for humankind since time immemorial.

Let's expose it for what it is.

P.S.
I am reading "Tragedy and Hope" the famous Carrol Quigley exposes of the Elite. Funny thing
The word Freemason does not appear in it. I figure Quigley was following instructions from the Elite,whom he much admired.

[stewart edwards]

What a post, can i pick up on a couple of points?
Freemasonry lays claim to existing since Adam and Eve
They were around when the pyramids were being constructed, how the pyramids were built is not a consideration - a topic for further investigation.
It matters not, Freemasons were there.In the form of the ancient mystery schools, the essential teachings of which can be found, amongst other places, in modern day Freemasonry possibly?


This is a fraternity that has been nothing but trouble for humankind since time immemorial.Freemasonry may have its bad apples that it appears to be ineffective at recognising/dealing with, but it really is a power of good in our world.

Let's expose it for what it is.Yes please do.

Dont misunderstand me, there is a lot that Freemasons have done that I am unhappy with, though it does appear to be spring cleaning itself. Though as a rejected candidate some years back my opinion does not count for much.

But let me ask you two direct questions:-

1. The millions of pounds given to charity, the time served in the community helping others, the encouragement to work on your weaknesses and become a better person, all of this does a power of good in our world. Do you agree or disagree?

2. Have you ever watched good person turn bad, for sometimes darkness will try to penetrate and distort what is good? Or a bad person turn the corner and become good, perhpas an ex convict who genuinely has turned over a new leaf and settles down to be a hard working good family man? These things do happen.

Yes in my opinion Freemasonry does need to clean itself up (more than it already has done a decade or so ago), but it is not as bad as I think you think.

Now I am listening, so if I am wrong, please tell me where and why.

I have been working hard for some years now in helping the Masonic world see what needs to be done to turn the corner, so I really am quite interested in your thoughts on the questions that I have asked you.

Attacking anyone just leads to war, holding your hand of friendship out to help, listening so that you can understand, and simply being there, can lead to things getting better. Just a thought. It is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.

[banoyes]

What a post, can i pick up on a couple of points?In the form of the ancient mystery schools, the essential teachings of which can be found, amongst other places, in modern day Freemasonry possibly?.
yup thats what it says
these things are active in Freemasonry right now


Freemasonry may have its bad apples that it appears to be ineffective at recognising/dealing with, but it really is a power of good in our world.

Tell you what. Name good Freemasons.
Then we will compile a list.


Attacking anyone just leads to war, holding your hand of friendship out to help, listening so that you can understand, and simply being there, can lead to things getting better. Just a thought. It is better to be part of the solution than part of the problem.

"Attacking anyone" I am attacking ,am I??.
feigned innocenct is unbecoming
Say remember when that Rhodes feller held out his hand in friendship>
Better to recognize then remain blind

There is a Trinitarlan mason on this site

Trinitarlan
Our Ritual includes several most serious obligations. To what? To morality?
No, to secrecy
. These obligations are taken subject to certain penalties.
What penalties? Fine ? Or seclusion ? No, to penalties
of whose nature we are all aware
and which I need not therefore particularize.

Our Ritual embodies and traces out a definite legend, or set of legends,
it insists on the acceptance of these events as positive truth,
wholly apart from any evidence from common history.

But let us remember our great claim, the early original of our Order,
there must be our hunting ground for the cause of our secrecy,for the constitution of the Fraternity, for the intense obligations imposed on each one of us.

We may not be able to trace in definite order every step in the vast procession of forms through which the Monotheistic secret has been shrouded, veiled, and preserved, or even to trace a distinct groove in the wheel of time in any one nation or century, b
but history is at no time free from the survival of scraps of evidence that a mystic association was at work, preserving and consecrating some high ideal, some great dogma

Our secret brotherhood, note, has a specially Judaic basis, our main legend is connected with that greatest Jewish law giver and ruler, Solomon. Our present doctrine is a Trinitarianism, clothed with the Christian virtues.

If Freemasonry arose as an entirely new scheme in the 16th or 17th century it must have arisen in a Christian land, and would certainly have been marked by specially Trinitarlan features, which would have remained permanent.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/kabbalah.html

Search Trinitarlan ...stand by

[stewart edwards]

It is difficult to name Masons because I dont want to show any sort of favouritism, so I have to pick someone who is not on this forum. But again it would be wrong of me to pick names of people who may not want associated with this forum. So I will opt for my sadly deseased uncle Ged. He was the first Catholic through his lodge I understand so he must have impressed someone. (back then that was a big thing where we lived).

I did once chatwith him about joining, and yes I approached him, but I was graduating soon and wanted to get that out of the way first, and then a big recession hit and I had to move to find work, so it never happened. And in England well when Freemasonry was mentioned it was rarely in positive tones so my interest waned. (In Scotland it is very much a visible community thing, in England it is much more hush hush).

[deafbred]

my friend visited a freemasonry meeting here in my hometown a couple weeks ago

he was telling me all about it

...

little does he know im a free-mason myself - muhahahahaha


no jk, i'm not a free-mason but i read about it and hear enough about it that makes me want to not hear about it or have to think about it, though i was interested in hearing about his experience which took place in my hometown.

i just told him not to get involved despite 'benefits'