The Michael Tsarion Thread

[thirdwave]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7895679846369098539&ei=f94tSeikOIrgiAKdkJneDQ&q=The+Irish+Origins+Of+Civilization+Excerpt%3A

[strt]

Thanks, downloading :)

[clozaril]

thanks, a good watch !

[thirdwave]

Good call Lime... how about renaming it "The Tsarion links thread" .. or something...?

[thirdwave]

ahh allready done :)

[limelady]

Yes TW, I am thinking we might merge all the various researchers threads into one on-going thread for each researcher. Its easier for new members to find what they're looking for, and they can then just stick to the one thread if want to work their way through all the links provided for the various researchers.

:)

[thirdwave]

sounds like a good plan to me :)

[curly]

Thanks TW,fascinating watch,only got to 53 minutes before it jammed up just when he started opening up about freemasonry:mad:try again in a bit.Liked everything i heard about freemasons,templars etc being thieves in the night and abusing the ancient archive that was supposed to be for the uplift of mankind.Not you average freemasons who do plenty of charitable stuff but the bloodlines of course who are colonizing our minds as mt puts it.Empowering ourselves with the ancient oracle etc,love it he confirms lots of things that allways rang true with me.

[thirdwave]

Thanks TW,fascinating watch,only got to 53 minutes before it jammed up just when he started opening up about freemasonry:mad:try again in a bit.Liked everything i heard about freemasons,templars etc being thieves in the night and abusing the ancient archive that was supposed to be for the uplift of mankind.Not you average freemasons who do plenty of charitable stuff but the bloodlines of course who are colonizing our minds as mt puts it.Empowering ourselves with the ancient oracle etc,love it he confirms lots of things that allways rang true with me.

Yeah, i do think that people like to wash the baby out with the bath water when bashing people like Freemasons.... at the end of the day the powers they use are not evil.... they just use them for evil due to their own corruption and flaws....

and I generally think they would rather see what they do as evil than anything else... this is not taking into account the blatant evil things they do.... but im talking in general... magick...occult... so on..

[clozaril]

there is a good 2 hr interview from oct 08 on journeys with rebecca

about halfway down the page http://journeyswithrebecca.com/audio_2008.htm

[endlessvista]

He is seriously impressive.

[limelady]

There's also a good interview with Michael Tsarion and Austrailian researcher Max Igan on John Lipscomb's radio show here....

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=708069&postcount=3

:)

[clozaril]

There's also a good interview with Michael Tsarion and Austrailian researcher Max Igan on John Lipscomb's radio show here....

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=708069&postcount=3

:)

had a listen, checking out some more max igan thanks LL

[sentient]

I've read Tsarion's book, which is quite an interesting story. What I've noticed, though, is that he basically says Atlantis was the first civilization which began on the continent Appalachia. These alien Atlanteans then merged their genetics with that of Neanderthal creating a new race. This race equally intelligent, and did not comply with the Atlantean agenda, so they took off to the continent of Oceania where they started the Lemurian civilization.

Now, if you take a look at ancient texts you'll see a lot of similarities in how things may have happened back then, but I'm a little confused. According to Madame Blavatsky, who Tsarion admires greatly (as do I), Lemuria was before Atlantis. So how could he get this backwards?

Plus, he goes into some wild theories about possible future outcomes:

1) the "Atlanteans" figure out a way out of this planet (Stargate technology, etc), then destroy the planet once they are out of range.

2) the "Dark Archons" realize that they cannot leave the planet and simply begin ruling the world with unmitigated tyranny, relentlessly and openly. All things pretty much go to hell.

3) the good of the world rise up against their oppressors by actually acting as a sacrifice, taking with them the evil masters.

4) mankind finally discovers the correct means to end the control with no loss of life or homeworld. Mankind proves itself as its own defender and redeemer. The beasts will be slain, the maidens rescued, the planet saved, and the ending happy.

He also speaks of "Ascended Masters" and makes references to C.S. Lewis' "Macrobes", that the Atlantean "Nephilim" are these Macrobes. In fact, here's what he says:

"C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien both knew that aliens were in total control of post-diluvian Earth, that they had replicated a race of Dragons or Reptilians, that they were, since the experiments of the Elizabethans, in leage with pan-dimensional entities. The latter, Lewis called them "Macrobes." Mankind, he said, takes for granted the world of the microbe. Though not visible to the naked eye, one has merely to make use of the microscope to confirm their existence. However, on the level "above" the human, exists the Macrobes. These cannot be seen with the naked eye, either. Their existence is known, or intuited, by the subtle inner faculties of the sensitive or clairvoyant. The word Enochian literally means "inner eye." Lewis implied, that no one can ever come into an understanding of the peculiar history of planet Earth without a knowledge of these entities."

He goes on to talk about how occultist John Dee invented "Enochian Magic" in order to contact these "Dark Archons" or "Macrobes".

Some pretty interesting stuff, not too far from the extreme works of Stewart Swerdlow.

I admire Tsarion's fantastic research, but he's got some stuff that's pretty sci-fi. If you think Icke is weird, read Michael Tsarion's book.

[limelady]

Now, if you take a look at ancient texts you'll see a lot of similarities in how things may have happened back then, but I'm a little confused. According to Madame Blavatsky, who Tsarion admires greatly (as do I), Lemuria was before Atlantis. So how could he get this backwards?



This is true. Tsarion has studied Blavatskys works, and states that he admires her tenacity, yet he still draws his own conclusions from the various data he has waded through himself. This is what I like about his work - he doesn't hang off the coat-tails of other researchers. He gives them credit where it's due, but he pieces things together and forms his own thesis based on his own conclusions.

Thanks for the post! :)

[celtic isis]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7895679846369098539&ei=f94tSeikOIrgiAKdkJneDQ&q=The+Irish+Origins+Of+Civilization+Excerpt%3A

ooooooooooh thanks for posting my dear! :D

i'm watching but it keeps freezing and jumping lol

[celtic isis]

Impressive he is :)

wow i actually think Architects of control has to be one of the best presentations, just this clip alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtpfYpC9wPc&feature=PlayList&p=990778BE65E8BA8B&index=10&playnext=11&playnext_from=PL

Looks like the mayans were right, 2012 wil mark the end of humanity, and the birth of the post human android, basically we ARE all going to be robots. It will be the movie Equilibrium, full stop.

People are just dying to numb their emotions. They already do with prozac lol

Love the guy on Kilroy in the clip, who says his wife isn't the same woman he married, and kilroy says she's an even better woman (now she's on prozac) and her husband answers, "No, she's different."

awesome!!

I love Tsarion's attitude when it comes to the stupid people amongst us, so funny, he feels sorry for and dispises our fellow "humans" at the same time haha much like myself...

hey are more than pathetic. Esspecially on facebook. What a bunch of morons most of the people i know are! :eek:

[thirdwave]

ooooooooooh thanks for posting my dear! :D

i'm watching but it keeps freezing and jumping lol

hate it when it does that... I usually press pause...go get a drink or something and let it stream for a while..

[thirdwave]

Impressive he is :)

wow i actually think Architects of control has to be one of the best presentations, just this clip alone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtpfYpC9wPc&feature=PlayList&p=990778BE65E8BA8B&index=10&playnext=11&playnext_from=PL

Looks like the mayans were right, 2012 wil mark the end of humanity, and the birth of the post human android, basically we ARE all going to be robots. It will be the movie Equilibrium, full stop.

People are just dying to numb their emotions. They already do with prozac lol

Love the guy on Kilroy in the clip, who says his wife isn't the same woman he married, and kilroy says she's an even better woman (now she's on prozac) and her husband answers, "No, she's different."

awesome!!

I love Tsarion's attitude when it comes to the stupid people amongst us, so funny, he feels sorry for and dispises our fellow "humans" at the same time haha much like myself...

hey are more than pathetic. Esspecially on facebook. What a bunch of morons most of the people i know are! :eek:

I just don't understand how so many can have so much apathy...all with ego's but don't think its there place to change the planet... big enough to have their egos... but apparently not big enough to make a difference.

[strt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLgUfI98Ow

~4:10-6:10

Very good explanation of few universal rules out there.

[celtic isis]

I just don't understand how so many can have so much apathy...all with ego's but don't think its there place to change the planet... big enough to have their egos... but apparently not big enough to make a difference.

i know, it's tragic, that's what tsarion said that hit me, just the sheer narcissistic attitude that is everywhere. People will have to face their demons soon enough though, it cannot go on like this, shame that they will only do it when they've lost their homes, or don't have food to eat...it will come to that before they wake up and take a stand. they will have to be pushed to the very bottom before they act.

:(

All of Architects of Control is so brilliantly done. :) I liked the way he said we shouldn't feel (those of us who are awake, or rather who have remembered wo we are) that we have to b he scaffolding holding those other people who wouldn't listen up, sod em let them fall.

I don't care if i have to fall with them, if i do fall it will only be physically, here in pain, fear and suffering... spiritually i know were i'm going, and that there is nothing to be afraid of.

[thirdwave]

i know, it's tragic, that's what tsarion said that hit me, just the sheer narcissistic attitude that is everywhere. People will have to face their demons soon enough though, it cannot go on like this, shame that they will only do it when they've lost their homes, or don't have food to eat...it will come to that before they wake up and take a stand. they will have to be pushed to the very bottom before they act.

:(

All of Architects of Control is so brilliantly done. :) I liked the way he said we shouldn't feel (those of us who are awake, or rather who have remembered wo we are) that we have to b he scaffolding holding those other people who wouldn't listen up, sod em let them fall.

I don't care if i have to fall with them, if i do fall it will only be physically, here in pain, fear and suffering... spiritually i know were i'm going, and that there is nothing to be afraid of.


have you seen the whole video yet?... he hits on that point which i enjoyed....

This video is going to get alot of aggression come back at it I think, from you know who... :eek:... as really hits the mark.

[blondina1]

Thanks for the posts! Great stuff!

[birdontheway]

All of Architects of Control is so brilliantly done. :) I liked the way he said we shouldn't feel (those of us who are awake, or rather who have remembered wo we are) that we have to b he scaffolding holding those other people who wouldn't listen up, sod em let them fall.

I don't care if i have to fall with them, if i do fall it will only be physically, here in pain, fear and suffering... spiritually i know were i'm going, and that there is nothing to be afraid of.

I loved that bit too.

I had a real problem coming to terms with this in my life (still am, some days). I've tried so hard to explain the Truth to people, but they just don't want to see what is going on, or that something extraordinary is about to happen. It's just business as usual. The sad thing is, these are (were) my closest friends and the people I love. I want to be able to take them with me on this journey, but as most of us here know, that's not possible. It has to be experienced individual level. The loneliness of this can be hard at times.

But I remember Tsarion saying in one of his lectures that the first thing people would notice as we enter the acension period is that our relationships would be deeply affected, most of them shattered. His words are helping me come to terms with this.

I have to say...I really love this guy. He's utterly intense and fascinating. And boy has he ever done his research on all aspects of this subject. So impressive.

If anyone has a shred out doubt about the reality of the prison planet and the psychological warfare raging on around (and within) us, just watch this guy. He’s the bottomline....end of story.

[asentinel]

by project camelot people


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw24ScW6VaI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0MaTaIS44&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wffy1y77YMU&feature=related


another interesting source/opinion.

[rixxmixxhell]

by project camelot people


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw24ScW6VaI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0MaTaIS44&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wffy1y77YMU&feature=related


another interesting source/opinion.


Was that the dude that Chris Everard had on his bonus disc from Secret Space Vol 1 or 2 talking about how alien probes look into us to learn about the creator, our past lives etc as they are looking for the Creator???

I really like Tsarion, he has a different take to other researchers, or at least, the more prominent ones.

I don't mind if he has some inconsistencies in his work, or out right wrong about something - no one is perfect.

I wonder what David thinks of him??? Has he commented on him and his work??

I must buy his book. I've seen his videos.

Rick

[limelady]

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[birdontheway]

Good interview from Michael (January 2009) Patrick Timpone interviews one www.oneradionetwork.com (http://www.oneradionetwork.com)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PulcklVF3k

As mentioned before; This guy is impressive. If there is one thing I love....it's research and having conviction!

[thirdwave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqPMDInnMAA

Just seen he posted this upon his forum...

[rixxmixxhell]

Thanks Thirdwave.

[thirdwave]

no probs..

[rixxmixxhell]

In the above video Tsarion said .....''Writing manuals for war'' ??? at the end of the video.

I didn't get his point with that, what you think???

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ALSO - this is a DVD with 3 discs produced with 'RED ICE CREATIONS'

Architects of Control - Micheal Tsarion

http://www.architectsofcontrol.com/

(There's a Teaser >>)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJPVWLPFb8&feature=related

Film produced by Michal Tsarion and Blue Fire explores humankind's
future and the post-human world. Michael's focus is on individual
slave (and by extension slave owner's) psyche and internal motives
rather than the circus. Why slave needs the master and why master
needs the slave? The pyramid is made of people that lean on each
other. Mass and transpersonal psyche, which is substantially
different from individual psyche and crucial for understanding
mass control is not approached in program one, although it could
be in further programs.

Rick

[thirdwave]

In the above video Tsarion said .....''Writing manuals for war'' ??? at the end of the video.

I didn't get his point with that, what you think???

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ALSO - this is a DVD with 3 discs produced with 'RED ICE CREATIONS'

Architects of Control - Micheal Tsarion

http://www.architectsofcontrol.com/

(There's a Teaser >>)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzJPVWLPFb8&feature=related

Rick



my first thought was he was talking about his works based on the "war on conciousness" he often refers to...

[bribean]

Thanks for posting.
Tsarion is a very important investigator IMO.
He is incredibly well read on occult, history and psychology among other topics, and his compasion and ego are a brilliant mix.

[bribean]

[QUOTE=rixxmixxhell;823954]In the above video Tsarion said .....''Writing manuals for war'' ??? at the end of the video.

I didn't get his point with that, what you think???

He mentions the psychic war on consciousness in the druid video.
I think that is what he meant.

[limelady]

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[lightgiver]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3250674156367789898

Excellent watch;)

[limelady]

Totally agree lightgiver......an excellent presentation and a must watch IMO. :)

[14april2000]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3250674156367789898

Excellent watch;)

I use to like his research - but some or at least one of his videos is direct disinfomation.

However he tells many truths, but has no answers via his god, psychology. His recommended book list is tops, however.

[thirdwave]

Totally agree lightgiver......an excellent presentation and a must watch IMO. :)

I really liked this to.

[thirdwave]

I use to like his research - but some or at least one of his videos is direct disinfomation.


what info are you referring to?

[geolaureate8]

Tsarion is like a walking library. His Architects of Control is top notch, maybe one of the best conspiracy documentaries. His style is extremely blunt. He doesn't mess around, and he has the tone of absolute certainty when he speaks and has the knowledge to back it up. When he goes on a rant, he can't be stopped.

Michael Tsarion Rant (ignore the weird title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAm4QC7EIg



.

[limelady]

Tsarion is like a walking library. His Architects of Control is top notch, maybe one of the best conspiracy documentaries. His style is extremely blunt. He doesn't mess around, and he has the tone of absolute certainty when he speaks and has the knowledge to back it up. When he goes on a rant, he can't be stopped.

Michael Tsarion Rant (ignore the weird title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAm4QC7EIg



.

Lol.....you have summed MT up very well! :D

I of course agree with you!

[thirdwave]

Tsarion is like a walking library. His Architects of Control is top notch, maybe one of the best conspiracy documentaries. His style is extremely blunt. He doesn't mess around, and he has the tone of absolute certainty when he speaks and has the knowledge to back it up. When he goes on a rant, he can't be stopped.

Michael Tsarion Rant (ignore the weird title)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAm4QC7EIg



.

cool video, you make it?

[geolaureate8]

cool video, you make it?

lol no. If it was me, I'd give it a better name. That youtube user has tons of cool M Tsarion videos though.

[thirdwave]

lol no. If it was me, I'd give it a better name. That youtube user has tons of cool M Tsarion videos though.

ahh ok :)

i might have to make one at some point..

[thirdwave]

more food for thought for Tsarions Irish Origins of Civilisation books!

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/wood-you-believe-it-stonehenge-find-at-tara-1706040.html

[limelady]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67JrkPNMsQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVI-DkYiuE8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOxu7h0trfY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEkZBIq4ef0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o-r5pFsFA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDkoFQNQRM

[thirdwave]

I wonder if Tsarion will speak at the Liverpool conference again...

[normaltime]

I use to like his research - but some or at least one of his videos is direct disinfomation.

However he tells many truths, but has no answers via his god, psychology. His recommended book list is tops, however.

Can u be more specific, which is the disinformation you're referring to (a genuine question)?

[thirdwave]

Can u be more specific, which is the disinformation you're referring to (a genuine question)?

maybe it was not in wiki :)

[clozaril]

there is a new mtsar interivew on consciousmedia network although it's members only at present.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOcR74HKhO8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.consciousmedianetwork.com%2F preview1.htm&feature=player_embedded

[limelady]

Thanks for the heads up cloz! :D

[thirdwave]

strange how his blog is closed for posting... Trolling problem maybe?

[celtic isis]

Damn tsarion's forum is locked at the mo? it's underwork i guess, just wanted to post the pics from the Sacre Coeur cathedral in Paris and i can't!

waaaaaaaaaaaaa!

oh well, some amazing posting on there on the symbolism forum!

um i don't know if i can post the link here?

EDIT: thirdwave just posted on this!

[thirdwave]

Damn tsarion's forum is locked at the mo? it's underwork i guess, just wanted to post the pics from the Sacre Coeur cathedral in Paris and i can't!

waaaaaaaaaaaaa!

oh well, some amazing posting on there on the symbolism forum!

um i don't know if i can post the link here?

EDIT: thirdwave just posted on this!


what do you mean?, you want to post the tsarion thread link here?

Thats meant to be ok no?

[clozaril]

full interview up now

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mtsarion.htm

[clozaril]

interview from january earlier this year

http://redlotus.org/wp-content/uploads/E012.mp3


Topics include: 1. The Future of the Human Race

2. Mask is coming down: Living in the Age of Apocalypse

3. Is the quarantine lifting on our planet

4. Shiva, the Holy Spirit and the return to Selfhood

5. The 4 Alternative Outcomes for Humanity

[clozaril]

tsarion was on coast to coast last night, haven't had a listen yet, will torrent.

[celtic isis]

what do you mean?, you want to post the tsarion thread link here?

Thats meant to be ok no?

lol no hunny i think i meant i wanted to post stuff on tsarion's forum...and alas it's still blocked!

Gawd i love Mike, anyone who has anything against him is a right old begrudging twat :)

he's the awesomest, i just love how highly Irishly strung he is...a bit like meself :D

haha i could talk to him for hours on end...sigh :)

[thirdwave]

lol no hunny i think i meant i wanted to post stuff on tsarion's forum...and alas it's still blocked!

Gawd i love Mike, anyone who has anything against him is a right old begrudging twat :)

he's the awesomest, i just love how highly Irishly strung he is...a bit like meself :D

haha i could talk to him for hours on end...sigh :)

ahh ok, yeah I'm looking forward to the part two of A of Control.

Not sure why its closed, I bet you it was troll central, That No where to run prat liked to shit stir and there have been a few people get in MTs face over it all so maybe he is to busy to run the site like that as I think he pretty much ran it.

[normaltime]

maybe it was not in wiki :)

Lol, too many people take info in Wiki as the gospel truth.

I'm curious to what I will find in Wiki if I were to type in the name Jesus...:)

[thirdwave]

Lol, too many people take info in Wiki as the gospel truth.

I'm curious to what I will find in Wiki if I were to type in the name Jesus...:)

it can be useful when looking into certain things and looking for education on some matters, But with stuff that is very opinionated, the pages can be edited instantly...!

[clozaril]

michael tsarion was on jeff rense show 22/10/09

[limelady]

michael tsarion was on jeff rense show 22/10/09

Thanks Clozaril. I finally a few days ago caught up with part 2 of his Conscious Media Network interview. It was very good.....they covered a lot of ground!

Will check out the Jeff Rense interview.

[clozaril]

was on coast to coast last week as well, promoting architects of control made with henrik of redice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDSAIojCdxE

[thirdwave]

was on coast to coast last week as well, promoting architects of control made with henrik of redice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDSAIojCdxE

will listen this weekend , cheers

[lightgiver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2yoT9lhxmU

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Michael+Tsarion+conspiracy+tr uth+bloodline+atlantis+mu+terrorism+corruption+che mtrails+Nazi+eugenics+vaccine+economy+Freemasonry+ revolution+reptilian+freedom+astrotheology+religio n+government+9/11+Ireland+2012+New+World+Order+microchip+War+pand emic+history+occult+Luciferianism+Satanism+Vatican +Illuminati+CFR+Bilderberg+Group+Trilateral+Commis sion+Skull+and+Bones+UFO+alien+Lemuria+DNA+alchemy +science+genetics+control+ancient+text+Egypt+Sumer ia+blood+technology&search=related&v=3sLOJHaRt4I&page=1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7961538/Michael-Tsarion-The-Coronation-of-Queen-Elizabeth-Windsor-An-Overview-of-the-Occult-Symbolism-Involved-Slideshow

[mr_pixie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2yoT9lhxmU

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Michael+Tsarion+conspiracy+tr uth+bloodline+atlantis+mu+terrorism+corruption+che mtrails+Nazi+eugenics+vaccine+economy+Freemasonry+ revolution+reptilian+freedom+astrotheology+religio n+government+9/11+Ireland+2012+New+World+Order+microchip+War+pand emic+history+occult+Luciferianism+Satanism+Vatican +Illuminati+CFR+Bilderberg+Group+Trilateral+Commis sion+Skull+and+Bones+UFO+alien+Lemuria+DNA+alchemy +science+genetics+control+ancient+text+Egypt+Sumer ia+blood+technology&search=related&v=3sLOJHaRt4I&page=1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7961538/Michael-Tsarion-The-Coronation-of-Queen-Elizabeth-Windsor-An-Overview-of-the-Occult-Symbolism-Involved-Slideshow


Thanks for this.

[mr_pixie]

Links

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Michael+Tsarion+--+Irish+Origins+of+Civilization+&emb=0&aq=f#

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=michael+tsarion&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10

[mr_pixie]

http://www.redicecreations.com/

Why have Red Ice got some ones head infront of a Back sun?

[lightgiver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0l94TUPRA

[thirdwave]

http://www.redicecreations.com/

Why have Red Ice got some ones head infront of a Back sun?

looks like an eclipse to me.

[mr_pixie]

looks like an eclipse to me.

Well i wasnt sure but you see pics with the Sun behind people.

[thirdwave]

Well i wasnt sure but you see pics with the Sun behind people.

yeah, some think Red Ice are dodgy but I cant see why they would interview so many people for some kind of negative thing...

they are much better existing than not.

AW started than hole thing off really but he got about a years air play off of them and still has loads of interviews in the archives...

[mr_pixie]

they are much better existing than not.

True.

[mr_pixie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2yoT9lhxmU

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Michael+Tsarion+conspiracy+tr uth+bloodline+atlantis+mu+terrorism+corruption+che mtrails+Nazi+eugenics+vaccine+economy+Freemasonry+ revolution+reptilian+freedom+astrotheology+religio n+government+9/11+Ireland+2012+New+World+Order+microchip+War+pand emic+history+occult+Luciferianism+Satanism+Vatican +Illuminati+CFR+Bilderberg+Group+Trilateral+Commis sion+Skull+and+Bones+UFO+alien+Lemuria+DNA+alchemy +science+genetics+control+ancient+text+Egypt+Sumer ia+blood+technology&search=related&v=3sLOJHaRt4I&page=1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7961538/Michael-Tsarion-The-Coronation-of-Queen-Elizabeth-Windsor-An-Overview-of-the-Occult-Symbolism-Involved-Slideshow

The video has been removed?

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Soverign Mind Radio (September 22nd, 2009)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sovereign-mind-radio/2009/09/22/sovereign-mind-guest-michael-tsarion.mp3?localembed=download

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Architects Of Control Vol. 2 (November 10th, 2009)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/investigators-report/2009/11/10/michael-tsarion-returns-with-architects-of-control.mp3?localembed=download

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Astro-Theology (November 17th, 2008)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/shadowsinthedark/2008/11/17/astro-theology.mp3?localembed=download

(Right Click, Save As)

[limelady]

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Soverign Mind Radio (September 22nd, 2009)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sovereign-mind-radio/2009/09/22/sovereign-mind-guest-michael-tsarion.mp3?localembed=download

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Architects Of Control Vol. 2 (November 10th, 2009)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/investigators-report/2009/11/10/michael-tsarion-returns-with-architects-of-control.mp3?localembed=download

Michael Tsarion - BlogTalkRadio.com - Astro-Theology (November 17th, 2008)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/shadowsinthedark/2008/11/17/astro-theology.mp3?localembed=download

(Right Click, Save As)

Awesome.....thanks aura! :)

[aura]

Awesome.....thanks aura! :)
No problem. ;)

Here's some more MP3 interviews found from below.

http://www.the7thfire.com/Human_Origins/Michael_Tsarion/
http://dad2059.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/kentroversy-tapes-interview-with-michael-tsarion/
http://www.redicecreations.com/mtsarforum/viewtopic.php?t=19

(Right Click, Save As)

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - Gnostic Media Podcast - The Trees of Life (November 13th, 2009)
http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/

This interview can be downloaded near the top.

[thirdwave]

anyone know when Architects of control II is out?

[deca]

its on this thread third wave great vid by the way

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97467


maybe after this you want give me a hard time about me talking about mind control :D

[thirdwave]

its on this thread third wave great vid by the way

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97467


maybe after this you want give me a hard time about me talking about mind control :D

thanks, but this is the first vid, he has been working on the no 2.

:), and I agree with much of the mind control stuff, just that it is not the extent of the issues afoot ;)

[firstlook]

"I wanna be like mike" ;)

The first part really took hold. Now im eager to see how the saga continues. Tsarion is like a morning shower and coffee. He's that good. haha

His last Red Ice interview was brilliant. I think he is the best food for thought out right now. Generally speaking.

peace

[lightgiver]

I wonder where all these researchers get THEIR info from,

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4505/001x9xew.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/001x9xew.jpg/)

now that depends what club you are in.

Michael Tsarion Is he a Rosicrucian? Is that a degree offered by the Scottish Rite of freemasonry? Is their goal the unification of world ... all » religions for their world government? Was he trained to be a "world teacher" by the theosophical society? Like Blavatsky and Crowley? Is his agenda "kind of like" or exactly that of the Illuminati networks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U0pQUj5Wic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRV2CPjjmw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmBzVa-VmX4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrOn2rUddpw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN-n0zAcjFE

I wonder?:)

How many sides of a pyramid does one ever see?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgfjXbqD9xM

[thirdwave]

I wonder where all these researchers get THEIR info from,

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4505/001x9xew.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/001x9xew.jpg/)

now that depends what club you are in.


*Yawn*

thanks teacher.... clearly a scholar in the occult.

I could not care a less if he was a Rosicrucian. (which he is not)

[lightgiver]

*Yawn*

thanks teacher.... clearly a scholar in the occult.

I could not care a less if he was a Rosicrucian. (which he is not)

Hi brown tongue hope you are not stinking

I can smell you from here.

who gives a crap about CON GAME researchers.

[thirdwave]

Hi brown tongue hope you are not stinking

I can smell you from here.

who gives a crap about CON GAME researchers.

*waves fart in your direction*

[lightgiver]

*waves fart in your direction*

Lovely,

what a rosi aroma:D

if you ask me all this CON game needs exposing.

[thirdwave]

Lovely,

what a rosi aroma:D

I knew you would like it!

[lightgiver]

I knew you would like it!

Hmm love the smell of rosi,s such a sweet sickly aroma,

thanks :D

[metacomet]

I dare say I actually like Tsarion's research even more then Icke's!

Always been a fan. Although one of his recent videos was pretty slow paced and boring. Lots of him in cold blue scenes, or driving in a car looking serious :p

[thirdwave]

I dare say I actually like Tsarion's research even more then Icke's!

Always been a fan. Although one of his recent videos was pretty slow paced and boring. Lots of him in cold blue scenes, or driving in a car looking serious :p

Yeah he is a bit of a ponce in it (sorry MT ;) ) but he is still a dude.

[lightgiver]

Described as a teacher's teacher, Michael Tsarion is a Divination Scholar and Sidereal Mythologist. An expert on Stellar Astrology, he is the creator of the Archetypal Stellar Taroscopicâ Astrological system of Hermetic Divination, and founder of the online Taroscopic Mystery School. Michael is a descendant of a long line of philosophers, free-thinkers, ascetics and visionaries. His Himalayan born mother was a well-loved, internationally recognized clairvoyant, whose affiliates included Barbara Marx Hubbard, Sir George Trevelyan, Jerry Jampolsky, Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, Shirley MacLane, Edgar Mitchell and a host of other celebrities and academics. She attended J. Krishnamurtiâs premier college in India and was later honoured as the very first clairvoyant to be a regular on Irish Television. The CEO of Britains Independent Broadcasting described her readings as devastatingly accurate


Here's an excerpt from a Tsarion interview in which he presents his point of view on the subject:
Quote:
Luciferians worship a god called Lucifer, the sun of the morning. Well, the sun of the morning is the sun. That's why we have elites. We even call children in school, the pupils; because it comes from the pupil of the eye of the god of Ra, the god of the sun. We get Gold stars for matriculation, when we do good in school. When you graduate, you get a degree, a Masonic degree. All of this stuff comes from astrology --- the degrees of the zodiac. So, these people have appropriated ancient stellar symbolism, in order to empower themselves, and because they erroneously think in their minds that they are the descendants of the original magi who built the pyramids, created culture, and they literally think of themselves as the descendants of these ancients.



And, of course in may ways they are the descendants of the freemasons and the guilds, and they think they have the right to use these symbols. Now, I would say "Yeah, they do have the right." But, they don't have the right to use those symbols to suppress other human beings. That's my problem [with them]. I don't care how many Masonic orders or how many secret societies exist in the world. They perfectly have the right to exist. It's just that these secret societies are now very much being used, because they have been infiltrated by Satanic forces. These fraternities and secret societies and subversive movements are now manipulating human beings to degrade and enslave. This is not what they were originally meant to do, and which their own grandmasters often lament. You only have to go to their own works and find this whole infiltration being lamented by the original masters of freemasonry and by some of these other secret societies. They knew they were being taken over, but they could not do much about it.

Did you know, he asked, that the 9/11 attacks were only the latest manifestation of an ancient struggle, originating on the island of Atlantis, between an elite, evil secret society (known as the Illuminati) and the forces of good? And that all through history, these Illuminati have manufactured false crises to consolidate and expand their power?

"Forget everything the national media says--that's useless groupthink," he thundered. He knew the real skinny: "The [American] government has been behind a whole series of terrorist attacks. This has been their policy through the decades." Not just September 11, but so much more....

While it can't be substantiated and is probably fabricated on their part, the Rosicrucians claim their true heritage in Egypt with Pharaoh Thoth-Moses III, also known as Ankhenaton. It was Ankhenaton who was responsible for temporarily bringing Egypt under the Monotheistic rule of the Sun Disk of the ATEN. This was at roughly the exact same time period as the supposed Exodus of the Jews out of Egypt under Moses, who also taught the monotheistic viewpoint of there being one God in Yahweh.

Because of this evidence of Thoth-Moses and Moses, both bringing forth the rule of Monotheism, as well as some other evidence, there are many societies and researchers, including the Rosicrucian's, who believe that Thoth-Moses/Ankhenaton is actually the same Biblical figure of Moses who led the Exodus out of Egypt.

When Ankhenaton died, it was his son the boy king Tutankhamen who once again re-establish the polytheistic rulership for the whole pantheon of Egyptian gods.

More information on the Order of the Rosy Cross

As far as Tsarion, i personally don't need some former Rosicrucian reading my Tarot for me....:D:D

"First Prophet of the God"

Moses "simply means 'born of'. The name normally required another name prefixed to it, such as Thothmoses (born of Thoth), Rameses (born of Ra) or Amenmosis (born of Amen) Whilst the 'moses' element is spelt slightly differently when rendered in English, they all mean the same thing and it seems very likely to us that either Moses himself or some later scribe dropped the name of an Egyptian god from the front of his name."
The birth narrative of Sargon I, who ruled over Babylon and Sumer hundred of years before Moses states his mother "set me in a basket of rushes; with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river, which rose not over me."
"...The birth story is almost certainly a fiction created in the sixth century BC echoing, for the birth of the Jewish nation, the ancient theme of creation emerging from the waters."
- Christopher Knight & Robert Lomas, The Hiram Key: Pharaohs, Freemasons and the Discovery of the Secret Scrolls of Jesus

"And Moses became learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, and was mighty in words and in deeds."
- Acts 7:22

"Moses was a skilled performer of magical rituals and was deeply learned in the knowledge of the accompanying spells, incantations, and magical formulas of every description...[Moreover] the miracles which he wrought...suggest that he was not only a priest, but a magician of the highest order and perhaps even a Ker Heb [Egyptian High Priest]."
- Sir E. A. Wallis Budge, From Fetish to God in Ancient Egypt

"At the top of the hierarchy of priests was the high-priest, the sem priest, or 'First Prophet of the God'. He would have been an extrmely learned man, an elder of the temple, a man with considerable administrative ability and political sense. He would have been in charge of seeing that the temple and all its hodings ran smoothly, and officiating at the most important ceremonies. While normally such a man would have risen to his position through the ranks, it was the pharaoh's perogative to place whomever he wanted in that office.
- Bob Brier, Ancient Egyptian Magic

"Moses, a son of the tribe of Levi, educated in Egypt and initiated at Heliopolis, became a High Priest of the Brotherhood under the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep [Akhnaton]. He was elected by the Hebrews as their chief and he adapted to the ideas of his people the science and philosophy which he had obtained in the Egyptian mysteries; proofs of this are to be found in the symbols, in the Initiations, and in his precepts and commandments....The dogma of an 'only god' which he taught was the Egyptian Brotherhood interpretation and teaching of the Pharaoh who established the first monotheistic religion known to man."
- Egyptian High Priest Manetho (3rd Century BC)

"If Moses was a High Priest of the Brotherhood under Akhnaton, as Manetho states, but did not lead the exodus until the reign of Rameses II, as many historians believe, then Moses must have been an extremely old man at the time of the exodus. (Rameses II did not rule until almost one hundred years after Akhnaton.) The Bible, in Deuteronomy 34:7 states that Moses was 120 years old when he died."
- William Bramley, The Gods of Eden

[lightgiver]

in the CON spiracy game,lots of Mammon to be made :rolleyes:

Michael Tsarion Is he a Rosicrucian? Is that a degree offered by the Scottish Rite of freemasonry? Is their goal the unification of world … all » religions for their world government? Was he trained to be a “world teacher” by the theosophical society? Like Blavatsky and Crowley? Is his agenda “kind of like” or exactly that of the Illuminati networks?

http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/illuminati/michael-tsarion-rosicrucian-1-of-5/

[thirdwave]

in the CON spiracy game,lots of Mammon to be made :rolleyes:

Michael Tsarion Is he a Rosicrucian? Is that a degree offered by the Scottish Rite of freemasonry? Is their goal the unification of world … all » religions for their world government? Was he trained to be a “world teacher” by the theosophical society? Like Blavatsky and Crowley? Is his agenda “kind of like” or exactly that of the Illuminati networks?

http://www.illuminatiarchives.org/illuminati/michael-tsarion-rosicrucian-1-of-5/

Yawn...

I take it you have got board of the fact no one is interested in your AW thread, so you have now decided to try and educate the educated here?

Have fun! :)


tell me what this is.

http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/DEMONS/Aleister%20Crowleyt.jpg

[lightgiver]

:D

You mean John whites,ha ha


Alan Watt Links thread (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average. john white

02-01-2010 10:30 PM
by lightgiver Go to last post
359 34,603

no just over 34,000

suck it hard 3rd wave rosi cheeks.

[thirdwave]

:D

You mean John whites,ha ha


Alan Watt Links thread (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average. john white

02-01-2010 10:30 PM
by lightgiver Go to last post
359 34,603

no just over 34,000



Yes it was created because you goons kept posting his stuff on every thread you could find... so JW offered you a thread of your own that was offered especially for AW mass and has been there since Nov 2007 and the special AW thread.. with no more being created as the mods got fed up of it.

And yes a lot of views!!, which makes it more amusing when you see that it consists of about the same 5 or 6 posters pretty much :)..

I have left the place for those who like it... but you can leave this one.... and you wont even answer my question retarding the pic I sent you...

Twerp.

[lightgiver]

He Ha he ha

Busted :D

Alan Watt Links thread (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average. john white

02-01-2010 10:30 PM
by lightgiver Go to last post
359 34,603

no just over 34,000

I don't need pictures to get on in life.

It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. - Peter J Carroll

maybe the elites love their symbolism and numerology,

I have au naturel.

save your insults,they go right over mi head.

[thirdwave]

He Ha he ha

Busted :D

Alan Watt Links thread (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
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02-01-2010 10:30 PM
by lightgiver Go to last post
359 34,603

no just over 34,000

I don't need pictures to get on in life.

It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. - Peter J Carroll

maybe the elites love their symbolism and numerology,

I have au naturel.

save your insults,they go right over mi head.

lol, you just ignored what I said and repeated your self...

lol

[lightgiver]

No la la la:D

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02-01-2010 10:30 PM
by lightgiver Go to last post
359 34,603

no just over 34,000

oops I just did it again.


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Thread Rating: 1 votes, 4.00 average. thirdwave

05-01-2010 01:02 AM
by lightgiver Go to last post
8,888

come on mick got a lot a catchin up ti do.

[thirdwave]

*sign*

less tap water dear chap!

If you really play it nursery school style.

I just had to point out that unlike AW, Tsarion has his own forum!

WHAT'S NEW
Replies 15107
Views 1490994


MAGICK
Replies 2484
Views 258090
http://www.redicecreations.com/mtsarforum/viewforum.php?f=1

what was that about catching up...? lol

How about you go back to the AW squatter thread now and stop talking shite?

or you can attempt to converse on the symbol I posted you and actually learn something?... never know... actually don't worry i cant be bothered any more..

[lightgiver]

*sign*

less tap water dear chap!

If you really play it nursery school style.

I just had to point out that unlike AW, Tsarion has his own forum!

WHAT'S NEW
Replies 15107
Views 1490994


MAGICK
Replies 2484
Views 258090
http://www.redicecreations.com/mtsarforum/viewforum.php?f=1

what was that about catching up...? lol

How about you go back to the AW squatter thread now and stop talking shite?

or you can attempt to converse on the symbol I posted you and actually learn something?... never know... actually don't worry i cant be bothered any more..

I wonder how you fit it all in

what with your music and the like:D

hey you know what Icke has a forum what he does not run.Ha ha.

[thirdwave]

I wonder how you fit it all in

what with your music and the like:D

hey you know what Icke has a forum what he does not run.Ha ha.

I create my own reality and time.

your boring.

[lightgiver]

I create my own reality and time.

your boring.

and you are really exciting,

do you have a girlfriend :Dor boy friend?

[thirdwave]

and you are really exciting,

do you have a girlfriend :Dor boy friend?

I am not Gay.. and find women to beautiful to be side tracked...

If I should ever change I will only go for Satanists I'm afraid.

[the cosmos]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7895679846369098539&ei=f94tSeikOIrgiAKdkJneDQ&q=The+Irish+Origins+Of+Civilization+Excerpt%3A

I love Michael's work. I've got his Atlantis, Genetic Manipulation, Alien Visitation dvd series.

Still have to watch the remaining 10 hours. :D

[thirdwave]

I love Michael's work. I've got his Atlantis, Genetic Manipulation, Alien Visitation dvd series.

Still have to watch the remaining 10 hours. :D

yeah, it does bring up allot of stuff to think about...

[aura]

Found a new interview.

Michael Tsarion on Black Listed News Radio (February 5th, 2010)
http://www.nightfall-project.com/3/post/2010/02/michael-tsarion-on-black-listed-news-radio-friday-february-5th-2010.html

[aura]

Michael Tsarion – Truth Frequency Radio (Part 1) (12-18-2009)
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=50

Michael Tsarion – Truth Frequency Radio (Part 2) (12-24-2009)
http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=52

[lightgiver]

Michael Tsarion -- Red Ice Interview 04-20-08 Part 1/12

Michael Tsarion returns to the program for a two-hour special to discuss his new upcoming book "Astro-Theology". This is not to be missed! Topics Discussed: Christianity's ancient hidden roots, the Vatican, the clergy and deception, Giza, "Goat-Men", Goths, words with "Ary" & "Ari" roots, serpent symbolism, the stars and the Zodiac, Messiah, anointed, Sobek & crocodile fat, Dragons, Naddreds, Gnadir, Astrological motifs in renaissance artwork and media corporations, monotheism, Akhenaton (Moses), sun worship, Luciferianism, light, the Solar Cult and the Stellar Cult, Khem, Camelot, Scythians, the Druids, Ur, Eric, Marduk, The Sea People, Mer, Kabiri and much more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdChTaDnY4

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - Cryptic Knowledge Radio (2010-03-23)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/crypticknowledge/2010/03/23/michael-tsarion--architects-of-control.mp3?localembed=download (right click, save as)

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - Celtic Rebel (2010-03-28)

http://celticrebel.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/guest-michael-tsarion/
http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=rebel_path

[aura]

Michael Tsarion at the ARC Convention (2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIq0x2JvBNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsk29jR2jFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99DI0yaqOvM

http://www.youtube.com/user/UnslavedFilms

[metacomet]

Nice!!

Lots of good Tsarion substance, thanks.

[lieorrists]

bookmarked, heard his radio interview last month. Great stuff.:cool:

[consciousness]

this guy's stuff is amazing. thanks to all

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - Truth Frequency Radio - Exploring The Occult (2010-04-12)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tsarionpromo1.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=1219

(right click, save as) - 4 Hours Total

[birdontheway]

That was amazing. Thank you for sharing.

[thirdwave]

Michael Tsarion - Truth Frequency Radio - Exploring The Occult (2010-04-12)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tsarionpromo1.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=1219

(right click, save as) - 4 Hours Total

people need to listen to this... and think before they judge all oculists..

[leeoard01]

does anyone know when his two new dvd will be released,thanks

[thirdwave]

still being created I think.. probably out at the end of summer I would guess... maybe sooner..

[aura]

Michael as uploaded new interviews on his YouTube page - should anyone be interested in the latest releases;
www.youtube.com/UnslavedFilms

[firstlook]

Michael as uploaded new interviews on his YouTube page - should anyone be interested in the latest releases;
www.youtube.com/UnslavedFilms

thanks

[helloperator]

What's up with the Michael Tsarion forum these days? I joined a couple of years ago after it first opened...but it seems to have been gutted and rebuilt. It has one member 'mstar' (Tsarion) and many forums sections...but no users, no posts apart from the stickies...

anyone?

[thirdwave]

What's up with the Michael Tsarion forum these days? I joined a couple of years ago after it first opened...but it seems to have been gutted and rebuilt. It has one member 'mstar' (Tsarion) and many forums sections...but no users, no posts apart from the stickies...

anyone?

he just uses it now to post up lots of links and videos ..so on..

not sure why, maybe there were lots of idiots going there and he could not be arsed... duno..

[chadwick]

What's up with the Michael Tsarion forum these days? I joined a couple of years ago after it first opened...but it seems to have been gutted and rebuilt. It has one member 'mstar' (Tsarion) and many forums sections...but no users, no posts apart from the stickies...

anyone?

was wondering that myself, too many assholes i guess. He's got a sweet archive of videos n stuff.

[thirdwave]

was wondering that myself, too many assholes i guess. He's got a sweet archive of videos n stuff.

yeah i always have a flick through,

[lightgiver]

Yawn...

I take it you have got board of the fact no one is interested in your AW thread, so you have now decided to try and educate the educated here?

Have fun! :)


tell me what this is.

http://www.hauntedamericatours.com/DEMONS/Aleister%20Crowleyt.jpg

Could it be Demon Haunted American tours with A Crowley :D

sorry for being a bit late in replying it had slipped my mind

anyone familiar with the common colour attributions of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life how closely related are the disciplines of Kabbalah and Rosicrucianism.The apparent central rosette is actually 'bricks' of Hebrew letters. The four arms of the cross represent fire [red],water[blue], air[yellow] and earth[colour mixture].The 4*3 =12 prominences symbolize the twelve planetary signs etc etc

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/masonic-apron-rosette.html

It is empty symbols and all

[thirdwave]

Could it be Demon Haunted American tours with A Crowley :D

sorry for being a bit late in replying it had slipped my mind

anyone familiar with the common colour attributions of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life how closely related are the disciplines of Kabbalah and Rosicrucianism.The apparent central rosette is actually 'bricks' of Hebrew letters. The four arms of the cross represent fire [red],water[blue], air[yellow] and earth[colour mixture].The 4*3 =12 prominences symbolize the twelve planetary signs etc etc

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/masonic-apron-rosette.html

It is empty symbols and all

ok, but I meant where did that image come from....

[lightgiver]

ok, but I meant where did that image come from....

Probably Egypt and beyond

Manly P. Hall, the Freemasonic historian and initiate, said that black magic dictated the state religion in Egypt and that the intellectual and spiritual activities of the people were paralyzed by complete obedience to the dogma formulated by the priestcraft. What a perfect description of the Levite-Babylonian mode of manipulation and of all the religions, like Christianity, which were to emerge from the lies they peddled. And that’s a crucial point to remember. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all base their beliefs on these same stories written by the Levites after their stay in Babylon. We are looking at a point in history which was to define and control the world from then until now.



The knowledge the Levites stole from Egypt and expanded as a result of their stay in Babylon, became known as the Cabala (Kabala, Qaballa), which comes from the Hebrew root, QBL, meaning mouth to ear. This is the method used to communicate the most secret information to initiates. The Cabala is the esoteric stream of what is called Judaism, which in fact is a front for the Babylonian Brotherhood, as is the Vatican. The Cabala is the secret knowledge hidden in codes within the Old Testament and other texts. Judaism is the literal interpretation of it. This is a technique you can see in all the religions.

The word Essene is derived from both the Greek and Egyptian words meaning secret and sacred

The word Israel itself, far from being a Jewish appellation, probably comes from the combination of three different reigning deities: Isis, the Earth Mother Goddess revered throughout the ancient world; Ra, the Egyptian sungod; and El, the Semitic deity passed down in form as Saturn. El was one of the earliest names for the god of the ancient Hebrews (whence Emmanu-El, Micha-El, Gabri-El, Samu-El, etc.), and his worship is reflected in the fact that the Jews still consider Saturday as "God's Day."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Cross

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret04.htm

Symbolism of the Golden Dawn Rosy Cross

The Rosy Cross Lamen as worn by Adepts in the Rosae Rubae et Aureae Crucis, the inner order of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4637/459pxrosecrosslamensvg.png (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/459pxrosecrosslamensvg.png/)


This lamen is a complete synthesis of the masculine, positive, or rainbow scale of colour attributions, which is also called the Scale of the King. The four arms of the cross belong to the four elements and are colored accordingly. The white portion belongs to the Holy Spirit and the planets.

of the rose refer to the twenty-two paths on the Tree of Life and the Twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet. It is the cross in Tiphareth, the receptacle and the center of the forces of the Sephiroth and the paths. The extreme center of the rose is white, the reflected spiritual brightness of Kether, bearing upon it the Red Rose of Five Petals and the Golden Cross of Six Squares; four green rays issue from around the angles of the cross. Upon the white portion of the lamen, below the rose, is placed the hexagram, with the planets.

Around the pentagrams, which are placed one upon each elemental colored arm, are drawn the symbols of the spirit and the four elements. Upon each of the floriated (the arms) of the cross are arranged the three alchemical principles of sulfur, salt, and mercury. The white rays issuing from behind the rose at the inner angles between the arms of the cross are the rays of the divine light issuing and coruscating from the reflected light of Kether in its center; and the letters and symbols on them refer to the analysis of the Key Word - I.N.R.I.

http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/crosses/inri.html

There are several other interpretations of INRI, including:

* Igne Natura Renovatur Integra - 'By fire nature is restored in purity'; a medieval Rosicrucian motto refering to the inner fire of the spirit, and for the Masons, the regeneration of nature by the influence of the sun symbolizes the spiritual regeneration of mankind by the sacred fire (truth and love).

* Iustum Necar Reges Impios - 'It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical kings, governments, or rulers'; printed on the Jesuit flag.

Note

According the Middle Way philosophy , ordinary beings misconceive all objects of perception in a fundamental way. The misconception is caused by the psychological tendency to grasp at all objects of perception as if they really existed as independent entities. This is to say that ordinary beings believe that such objects exist "out there" as they appear to perception. Another way to frame this is to say that objects of perception are thought to have inherent existence (svabhāva) — their "own being" or "own power" — which is to say that they are perceived and thought to exist "from their own side" exactly as they appear.

Emptiness is the concept that all objects are empty of inherent existence.

Note that it is completely incorrect to think of emptiness as being the same as nothingness, a mistake which is often made. Emptiness does not negate the play of appearances which manifest to a multitude of sentient beings; it asserts that they are insubstantial.

[aura]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aKUhwisz8Jo/SKDOEyc1N0I/AAAAAAAAAAo/A9B96CaGaic/s1600-R/MichaelTsarion1.jpg

Michael Tsarion - Vantage Point Interview (2010-05-16)

http://vantagepointradio.com/2010/05/13/interview-tsarion/

Download: http://vantagepointradio.com/feed/
(search for May 16th - right click, save as)

[bard]

The Age of Manipulation

live presentation in Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIqHDe1Duk

(direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIqHDe1Duk)

follow all the parts on youtube

[thirdwave]

The Age of Manipulation

live presentation in Europe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIqHDe1Duk

(direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVIqHDe1Duk)

follow all the parts on youtube

is this his latest talk?

[aura]

is this his latest talk?

This is the latest event from June 6th.

Michael Tsarion - Conspiracy Con, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27fqvHD0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27fqvHD0M

[aura]

Michael Tsarion - Deliberate Evil (North East Truth - August 31, 2010)

http://www.zshare.net/download/7997151457ad8911/

3 hours, 20 minutes

[lightgiver]

Michael Tsarion -- Technology Trends Interview: Atlantis Part 1/4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxL8FQtGkI

2/4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA79_dtkwzo

3/4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsxFfcb0n_Y

4/4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfsYpPkw36Y

[ironcobra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNiseVtlXHQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5sJeW2rQAQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjH8Xb1NivU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIp00aqa5QA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIqkcCAHPRc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_lsXYZwdJk&feature=related

good interview....are all his websites gone?

[noncooperation]

Just starting to watch these vids.

i really admire MT, i read his momentous book probably 4 times, seen all his DVD's vids etc, most more than once. he seems so 'clear' & focused, the way he can put the huge amounts of often fragmented information together so it make some sense, amazing. thanks Michael.

i mean, Origins & Oracles, what an incredible work! this guy has some special ability. so much information & so well presented.

What do people think about MT these days (this thread was started a while ago already)?

He doesn't get mentioned that much on DIF

[edit]

he seems so 'clear' & focused, the way he can put the huge amounts of often fragmented information together so it make some sense, amazing. thanks Michael.


yes its amasing really .. and i like to see the news on the forum he use to post his inspired \signs by the path\ so.. where is it gone now?

(the few days already)

[trev1]

What do people think about MT these days (this thread was started a while ago already)?

He depresses me and has no sense of humour whatsoever :eek:

In saying asll that he has done some good work :)

[bluehorseman]

Just starting to watch these vids.

i really admire MT, i read his momentous book probably 4 times, seen all his DVD's vids etc, most more than once. he seems so 'clear' & focused, the way he can put the huge amounts of often fragmented information together so it make some sense, amazing. thanks Michael.

i mean, Origins & Oracles, what an incredible work! this guy has some special ability. so much information & so well presented.

What do people think about MT these days (this thread was started a while ago already)?

He doesn't get mentioned that much on DIF

Which book? I don't know which one to get first.:)

[notthisshitagain]

This is the latest event from June 6th.

Michael Tsarion - Conspiracy Con, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27fqvHD0M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn27fqvHD0M
Michael Tsarion - Deliberate Evil (North East Truth - August 31, 2010)

http://www.zshare.net/download/7997151457ad8911/

3 hours, 20 minutes

Thank you! :) Very much appreciated.

[aura]

Here is another one.

Truth Frequency Radio - Michael Tsarion - Mind Control & The Metachild (2010-12-11)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/metachildbanner1.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=3097

Right Click, Save As - Choose from the MP3 quality (CD/FM or AM)

[bluehorseman]

Here is another one.

Truth Frequency Radio - Michael Tsarion - Mind Control & The Metachild (2010-12-11)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/metachildbanner1.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=3097

Right Click, Save As - Choose from the MP3 quality (CD/FM or AM)

Thank you aura I will listen to these when I take the dog for a walk, hopefully not a 3.5hour walk as Michael is very broad in his research!:)

[bluehorseman]

But serious if anyone could recommend which book of his to start with that would be great. I'm thinking Irish Origins as it seems that he covers what is in his Atlantis genetic manipulation book and extends on it? Not sure.

[ozpixie]

He depresses me and has no sense of humour whatsoever :eek:

In saying asll that he has done some good work :)

He covers some very serious ground and I imagine its not easy to keep the throughts flowing and be humorous at the same time. We are all different in that way.

[notthisshitagain]

Here is another one.

Truth Frequency Radio - Michael Tsarion - Mind Control & The Metachild (2010-12-11)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/metachildbanner1.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=3097

Right Click, Save As - Choose from the MP3 quality (CD/FM or AM)

Thanks! Oh, and for those people interested, the CD Quality file is 88MB, the FM Quality File is 44 MB, and the AM Quality File is 11 MB.

[noncooperation]

Which book? I don't know which one to get first.:)
Atlantis, Alien Visitation & Genetic Manipulation

summary:
http://oneheartbooks.com/books/atlantis/atlantis_aliens_tsarion.htm

[aura]

Truth Frequency Radio - Michael Tsarion - The Zionist Roots Of Freemasonry (2011-04-16)

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/tsarionslider4.jpg

http://truthfrequencyradio.com/archives/3714

Right Click, Save As - Choose from the available MP3 quality.

[tonytake2]

ICAN Planet Presents
‘The Big Awakening Conference 2011'
Speakers include;

MICHAEL TSARION - Expert in Arcane Mysteries
PIERRE SABAK - Etymologist & Occult Symbologist
IAN R CRANE - Ex-Oilfield Executive & Truth Speaker
LEE DAVID - Expert in the mysteries of Sumeria
ROBERT GREEN - Researcher & Truth Activist

Saturday, June 18 · 10:00am - 10:00pm
Middleton Arena, Middleton, Manchester M24-1AG

View the TV advert currently playing on Sky Channel 200;

http://youtu.be/pEbklr8GYis

[thirdwave]

ICAN Planet Presents
‘The Big Awakening Conference 2011'
Speakers include;

MICHAEL TSARION - Expert in Arcane Mysteries
PIERRE SABAK - Etymologist & Occult Symbologist
IAN R CRANE - Ex-Oilfield Executive & Truth Speaker
LEE DAVID - Expert in the mysteries of Sumeria
ROBERT GREEN - Researcher & Truth Activist

Saturday, June 18 · 10:00am - 10:00pm
Middleton Arena, Middleton, Manchester M24-1AG

View the TV advert currently playing on Sky Channel 200;

http://youtu.be/pEbklr8GYis


£? :)

[dave52]

http://www.icanplanet.com/news.php

£45

That's a lot of money.

I really want to go to this though...

[thirdwave]

http://www.icanplanet.com/news.php

£45

That's a lot of money.

I really want to go to this though...

If It was not in Manchester I might have gone but it will cost loads to get up there as well as ticker so might have to give this one a miss...