Can we actually stop the NWO?

[teslafire]

The system of control is as old as history or probably even humanity itself.

Can we really infowar our way out of this with the very tools they've given us?

What do you guys think?

[jimijams]

I'm not a believer of a mass awakening event, I think it happens one by one.

The NWO is humanities shadow made manifest, we all have inside of us a little Nazi that seeks to control and dominate just as part of us also needs to be controlled and dominated.
What I try to do is work on myself to try to rid the tyrant inside and become more loving, will this defeat the NWO? Probably not.. maybe.. I don't know.

Sorry, not much help just thinking aloud.:o

[_neo_]

I'm skeptical,There isn't enough good guys with any real power.
My fear is when they're finally exposed that they try and take
this place with them or bring them underground bases into use!

[shadow cat]

Hi, One thing we CAN do to 'ward off' the galloping NWO is to maintain, cling to, fight hard for, always acknowledge, help, care for and Love with all our being....our Families. The one thing THEY don't want us to do. Take back the power of the family!!! Families rule!!! The answer to all of this stuff is not always 'out there', it's inside each of us. How's our relationships??? Hubby OK? How is your wife? relationship on track?? How are the kids doing?? are we there for them when needed?? Everyone getting the right stuff to eat?? too much junk food?? Do we eat together anymore? or, (as it's been in my family lately) eating in front of Puter or Telly??
You get my drift. THEY hate us being all family orientated, it takes away a huge part of their power....don't give it to them on a platter.
Chuck out the electronic games, TV, limit computer time, take up orienteering or something, go for walks as a family.
You get my drift... go for it
Much Love :D

[december]

teslafire, first of all we need to understand that NWO is just a concept, an attempt to set up a New World Order.

There are plenty of countries which can and DO resist this concept.

[truthcommission]

One thing we CAN do to 'ward off' the galloping NWO is to maintain, cling to, fight hard for, always acknowledge, help, care for and Love with all our being....our Families...THEY hate us being all family orientated, it takes away a huge part of their power...
I have tried this.

I have warned my wife (and tried to protect my children) about the hidden governments (Bilderberg's, Trilateral Commission), mind control experiments, child abductions, satanic ritual abuse, subliminal messages on TV and in logos, fluoride in water, chemtrails and all the stuff that is IN YOUR FACE and can be easily validated.

I hadn't even gone that deep into 4th dimension entities, the reptilian agenda or Solar cults, Luciferianism and bloodlines of the annunaki and illuminati before my wife decided that I was going crazy and left taking my children away because she feared for their safety.

My family is all that matters and now they are gone.

[jimijams]

I have tried this.

I have warned my wife (and tried to protect my children) about the hidden governments (Bilderberg's, Trilateral Commission), mind control experiments, child abductions, satanic ritual abuse, subliminal messages on TV and in logos, fluoride in water, chemtrails and all the stuff that is IN YOUR FACE and can be easily validated.

I hadn't even gone that deep into 4th dimension entities, the reptilian agenda or Solar cults, Luciferianism and bloodlines of the annunaki and illuminati before my wife decided that I was going crazy and left taking my children away because she feared for their safety.

My family is all that matters and now they are gone.
Thats tragic TC, my heart goes out to you.
It took a lot for me to convince my wife not to vaccinate our children, at first she thought I had gone insane too. Eventually she came around to my way of thinking after reading some books on it, I guess she saw what it meant to me and because she loved me she trusted me, took the time to see it from my POV.

It is difficult though, what we accept as given to some would seem insane and you need to bear that in mind when dealing with the uninitiated. I hope you work it out with your family because as shadow cat mentioned the family is very important.

Jimi

[mynameis]

The NWO agents and traitors are like dopplegangers, and how do you fight those? I'm thinking bait and switch back on them, so we need to infiltrate the NWO machinery at the core key points to take their efforts down. Ron Paul is a piece and we need more key pieces on the board. Politics, Media, Health, Police, Judges, Lawyers, Churches, Military, and Funds. Also of note, if someone gets into a key position, he must bring other people to assist him in the area through the hole, and make the breech even wider. It's just a necessary tactic. This is how the Masons did it.

[shadow cat]

Hi Truthcommission, Someone said (Michael Tsarion I think) that It's not such a good thing to try and initiate these things into the ones who don't want to be initiated, or something to that effect. That it's just simply too much hard work to no avail, and it can also completely fatique the one trying to explain/teach etc.
I am divorced, so know a little about what you are going through. IF you and your wife love each other there is every good chance that things will work out. It's that simple really. If one of you has lost the love of the other, who knows.
My parents stayed together for years and years 'because of us kids', they didn't love one another , consequently our lives were disrupted and chaotic because of this. Far better had they separated, so all could have experienced some peace.
If it's only the teaching of these things that has sent her away, you can make amends. If it's the lack of Love, it's better you go your own way?
My Love and thoughts are with you at this very difficult time.....try and stay calm through any and all proceedings...getting steamed up about things can make it much much worse. I'ts great you have a Doc. to discuss things with, as at these times there's HEAPS of things to discuss. Good on you!!
One thing that mayhelp, is when you are relaxed, 'rise above' the situation.. imagine you have grown wings and can fly up quite high in the sky....now look down onto your situation etc and try to get a 'third party' perspective on it. This can sometimes help, also it can give the you on the ground a bit of a break :-)
Hang in there....things often seem worse than what they are, keep your chin up....there are people who care about you....and please try and stay calm, this will help.
Big Hugs XX

[truthcommission]

Someone said (Michael Tsarion I think) that It's not such a good thing to try and initiate these things into the ones who don't want to be initiated...
Thank you for your kind words of understanding.

Yes Michael is one of my mentors. He probably more than most people understands the reality of where I come from and some of the experiences which have shaped my life.

He once told me that I needed to go through a Chemical Divorce before having a Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[misscpb]

The system of control is as old as history or probably even humanity itself.

Can we really infowar our way out of this with the very tools they've given us?

What do you guys think?

My answer to this is YES we can do it :)

[infinitetruth]

I posted a thread call 'defeating the NWO' in the NWO forum. David icke suggested that opposites don't fight. We can't defeat them playing their game, because we become one of them with a different name. We have to stick by what we believe.
My idea was that we start to become self-sufficient. Have a self-sufficient home, and life - without the need for money. If none of us need money anymore the government won't get their taxes. I'm thinking of doing it, slowly - it is possible. Freedom for bills and taxes is my main aim - we had a tax investigation and they deem you as guilty and you have to prove you are innocent. It is criminal and a complete headache, its like living with fear all the time. A few weeks ago we were fined 1000 for not filling a form in.

If you have no address, no bank account - they can't do anything, they are completely powerless.

[montag]

My answer to this is YES we can do it :)
I heard someone say once that an optimist is really just a pessimist without experience.:p

[infinitetruth]

But if you believe what David Icke says, about molding our reality with our thoughts and our actions, then perhaps we need more optimists in the world than not. Our thoughts do create our reality, once we've made a decision it starts to become reality.

[the norseman]

Yes - You can defeat the "New World Order".

The NWO is like a chain. Social policies / wars / Problem Reaction Solutions etc form links in this chain which ultimately lead it towards the end ie an enslaved population in one way or another. This chain though, is simply a line of propaganda which can be counteracted and opposed.

It is the propaganda that has to be exposed and the chain severed - that will stop the NWO - we need to pull links out of this chain or at least stop the powers that be from adding further links. Many of you have said you have told your friends and family about these things and have thus been ridiculed or labeled. It is hard and that does happen and it will always happen. People have been conditioned to think in a certain way and to even respond in a certain way. If you go against this grain you will be met with hostility as you are rocking the very foundations of their existance. How many of you have thought that maybe you can use the way people have been conditioned to think to ultimately assist in their awakening?

The ways to minimise people from ridiculing you or dismissing you is to have a strategy which I think many people do not have. Talking about lizard men from mongo will be met with rolled eyes. If you have researched tangible issues that effect people at the lower levels then you will certainly have a better ratio of partially awakening people - you can then get into deeper levels once people have had their interest sparked. I have seen this and done this myself. If you start your information dissemination with the Annunaki or even on issues such as manufactured religion and imagine your own reality etc then you will ultiamtely get nowhere whether these are true or not (my thoughts are irrelevant).

You have to have a target audiance ie are you trying to educated people who believe they are thinkers or are you targeting the "vicky pollards" of this world who are simply hell bent on getting pissed, watching celebrity TV crap and eating as much of the manuafactured shite that is labeled for food as they can? Once your audiance is defined you then focus on issues for that affect that audiance. People are awoken in different ways.

If people combine resources and pool knowledge and focus their energies on forming a first class information disseminating machine focusing on tangible issues then I think we may actually start getting somewhere - many people on this forum are now taking this approach - (see the thread marked "meeting") other posters are going to start disseminating leaflets and there is even a film maker on here - this is the way to counteract the new world order.

Ultimately the chain has to be severed and the propaganda machine stopped. This will stop the NWO.

The Norseman.

[infinitetruth]

Well said norsemen. can you point me in the right direction for the 'meeting' thread?

[montag]

The meeting thread is here.. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3911)

[auron]

If people combine resources and pool knowledge and focus their energies on forming a first class information disseminating machine focusing on tangible issues then I think we may actually start getting somewhere

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I totally agree with you man. :)

[thirdwave]

The system of control is as old as history or probably even humanity itself.

Can we really infowar our way out of this with the very tools they've given us?

What do you guys think?

yes we can stop it easy..... but we dont need to stop it as it wont work anyway, the earth for a start wouldnt have it....

Its just anoying to see it end the hard way....

[mada88]

its problem-confusion-solution, and thats probably more effective than PRS.

[the norseman]

thirdwave,

Could you please explain what you mean further?

I do not have a clue what you are getting at.

Thank you.

Mada88, you have an interesting point could you go deeper into this please?

The Norseman.