atonism and the bible

[newdecades]

i was hoping some of you here who listen to michael tsarion could explain this to me. michael tsarion has said the bible is an 'atonist scrapbook'. what exactly does he mean by that? if the stuff in the bible was written by atonists how come god isn't called 'aton' in the bible and how come akhenaten isn't mentioned? does he mean that the people who wrote the old testament were influenced by atonism and came up with what is now called judaism which is based on atonism? maybe these stories were originally about the atonists but over time when they finally were written down some details of the story had changed, like god not being referred to as 'aton' and the egyptian atonists being called the israelites? or am i misunderstanding something?

[dedicate]

Don't know what is meant. BEWARE OF INTELLECTUALISM!!! The mind is the worst enemy known to man. People become involved with their minds to the extent that their Minds become their God and their reality. Richard Dawkins for example.

What may be indicated is monotheism. God -- the One -- the Universal transcendental all encompass unknowable Creator/Creation/Creating for ever and ever without start or finish. Believe it or not,,, this concept of God took a long time to take root in Western Civilization,-- post Bharata ---- Egyptian.. Civilization moving Northward and worldward and WEst ward... till what we have today. Aknaton was the first experiment with Monotheism but it failed.. So Nature went to Plan B..

Plan B from inner-space. The Jewish Kabbalah religion would take the next evolutionary step of ONE GOD to worship and now is formulated as Christianity,, which is rooted in ancient Egypt.. when the lowly Hebrews abused and enslaved were given the highest truth as today it is the lowly and hated most that are given the mantle and light.

[dedicate]

atonism -- AT ONE ISM. AKA the next evolutionary step, thus why so much opposition to the progress. God being everywhere and everything means that your experience is God experience. You unhappy? You neurotic? You bored? Look closely and you will note God there. There is bliss in all these states. The next evolutionary step is mankind coming to realize he is part and parcel of the One.

Be smart. Remember. God is a duality also. He is not this,, and not that. Even though He is this and He is that.

[thirdwave]

i was hoping some of you here who listen to michael tsarion could explain this to me. michael tsarion has said the bible is an 'atonist scrapbook'. what exactly does he mean by that? if the stuff in the bible was written by atonists how come god isn't called 'aton' in the bible and how come akhenaten isn't mentioned? does he mean that the people who wrote the old testament were influenced by atonism and came up with what is now called judaism which is based on atonism? maybe these stories were originally about the atonists but over time when they finally were written down some details of the story had changed, like god not being referred to as 'aton' and the egyptian atonists being called the israelites? or am i misunderstanding something?

I think what he means is the messages and info in the bible is hidden, not open for all to understand and see.... although people are still worshipping the same thing..... its like a face for the un-knowledgeable and a face for the knowledgeable...

for example, both Jesus and Lucifer (who was only added in later by King James) are depicted as being the morning star...

there are also symbols as to why Jesus rides and Donkey .... White Horse.... yadda yadda.... its all symbology... the white horse represents initiation and knowledge.... (you see lots of White Horse symbology in Wiltshire and near the Avebury stones)

[knightofthegrail]

I do wonder sometimes if Moses got the wrong end of the stick on the mountain.

A possible "how it should have been"......

God: "Be Still"

Moses: *is still*

God: "and Know that I am God"

Moses: "you are God"

God: "No, you twit, Know *I* am God"

Moses: *scared* "You mean I'M God?!!"

God: "Yes, all of you are, at your hearts. Dont you read your own books? It says there that its the divine spirit in you that moves you"

Moses: "Erm, I suppose you might have a point"

God: "So go teach folks that. You cant 'make' them be 'good' as they already are beautiful at their root...if they can only remember it"

Moses: "Ok, Got it, we are all one in God, and one with God, and we shouldnt try to push people around"

God: "Brilliant!" :D

How it went in practice:

God: "Be still and know that I am God!"

Moses: *scared* "You are God!!!!!" *starts to hallucinate*

God: "Now, take these laws and order people around"

Moses: "Si Barony!"

:D

[thirdwave]

here is some other blatent occult stuff...

Matthew
18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

first of all we see here the laws that you should forgive those who sin against you... this is quite a common belief among most christians and it is quite pleasant yes...

But we also see more.... this is blatant numerology here... allthough I cant see any relevence with "490" ... I came across this, which might be something....

"The Acacian Schism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemius_of_Constantinople

Point is, there is more there to read into.

[thirdwave]

and here, is this promoting secret societies? .. or secret magick...

Matthew
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

[solipsism]

Atonism is Lucifer Worship via the dark side of the sun. It's essentially saying that the bible is really a book about worshipping the dark side of the sun which in turn is Lucifer Worship.

[jesusistruth]

"atonism" is probably a reference to atonement, to make up for one's sin. Without the shedding of blood there is no atonement for sin, it is written.

I know Tsarion has a problem with animal sacrifice. As for me, I don't feel in my heart I need to sacrifice animals, but I do need to accept Jesus. Perhaps it was different then, before Christ.