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synergy777
30-05-2007, 04:19 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=458487&in_page_id=1770

Nation of mortgage slaves among Britain's young couples
By BECKY BARROW - More by this author »

Massive mortgages are turning a generation of young couples into wage slaves, it has been claimed.


A report warned that the spiralling price of housing means Britain is in danger of becoming the "grossly divided" society of have and have-nots not seen since Victorian times.

First-time buyers who manage to make it on to the property ladder and parents with young families are like "bonded labourers" tied to their jobs

The bleak report by academics - called On The Treadmill - says "super-size" loans are pushing soaring numbers of parents to desert their children in order to work long hours.

Many are taking on second jobs to pay a mortgage which could be up to seven times' bigger than their salary.

The warning came as figures from the British Bankers' Association showed the average home loan is now a record-breaking £152,800 - compared with £50,000 in 1994.

With a £150,000 mortgage, the monthly repayments are about £1,100, or 75 per cent of the take-home pay of a worker on average earnings.

Many buyers in the South, however, have to borrow more than double this amount, with average asking prices of nearly £400,000 in the capital.



New mortgage levels could be forcing Britons in to a form of 'modern day slavery'

The report, from the universities of Aberdeen and Loughborough, claims many young couples are being turned into "bonded labourers" by their mortgage.

This is someone who works to repay a loan, typically trapped into doing excessively long hours for little money.

Dr John Bone, a sociology lecturer at Aberdeen, said: "They are like bonded labourers because they are so heavily indebted.

"For these young homeowners, the burden of mortgage debt will place great stress on those who have families.

"Both debt-harassed parents are forced to work increasingly long hours to meet the payments.

"Little time will be left for family life and little disposable income with which to enjoy it."

The problem is likely to get worse, with the size of the average mortgage increasing by nearly £12,500 over the past 12 months.

The preliminary findings from the universities' 18-month study of 18-to 40-year-olds says the cost of buying a home will create a "grossly divided society last seen in the 19th and early 20th century".

Those who do buy will be taking on levels of debt which would have been "inconceivable" to previous generations.

Meanwhile, those who cannot afford to buy will feel forced to delay getting married or having children because they want to own before making such an important commitment.

Without their own home, many will have to live with their parents, rent at vast expense or live in "studentstyle" house shares, even in their thirties.

A spokesman for the think-tank, the Relationships Foundation, said: "This report highlights a very difficult situation for many families.

"When taking on these huge mortgages, parents mustn't forget that a good home is more than just a large house. It involves time together as a family.

"There is a wealth of research showing that keeping time for children is essential for their well-being and helps them educationally, socially and emotionally."

One family involved in the study, which will continue for another two years, spoke of the misery involved in renting.

They have moved five times in four years, as their landlords decided to sell up or start charging an extortionate rent. House prices have been increasing for more than a decade to reach a record of nearly £200,000 for the average home.

They are still rising at an inflation-busting 10.9 per cent per year, according to the biggest mortgage lender, the Halifax.

It estimates that buying a home is impossible in 70 per cent of towns for key workers, such as teachers, police, firemen and nurses. Four interest rate rises since last summer have made the situation even worse.

Rates are now at their highest level for six years at 5.5 per cent, with economists warning they could reach six per cent this year.

David Stubbs, senior economist at the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, said: "Stretched affordability among first-time buyers means many cannot contemplate buying a home at the increased rates of interest now been demanded by mortgage providers."

Recent research found rising numbers of under-30s can only afford to buy with the help of their parents.

About 40 per cent who have bought over the past three years had help from their parents, according to the Council of Mortgage Lenders.

Historically, just one in four buyers had help from the so-called "Bank of Mum and Dad".

lightbeing
30-05-2007, 04:29 PM
Tell me about it, some people consider I've got a small mortgage, just under £100,000:eek: Still £700 a month, only 20 years to go!:(

lottie
30-05-2007, 04:34 PM
Totally agree- we are becoming a nation of slaves- actually we already are but most of us cant see it!!
We decided not to bother with a mortgage- we have struggled to be even considered a mortgage with our incoming annual wages so we decided why slog our guts out all our lives for a house we'll probably never own anyway?- the thing i have found also during my years working with the elderly is that they slave away all their lives to pay for their bricks and mortar and then they get all of about 10 yrs in their houses and before getting elderly and have to go into ' care homes' and end up selling the house to pay for the fee's for the rest of their lives- so in effect buying a house is just paying upfront to ensure you get 'looked after' when you become vulnerable and in my experience the majority of care homes- provide the minimum of standards but still charge the going rate for their services, so you dont even get adequate care when you are old and vulnerable! nice eh?....what exactly is the point of this mortgage thing?!! also the amount we are paying in interest etc etc - is ridiculous- we end up paying for the house 3x over!! :mad:

synergy777
30-05-2007, 05:07 PM
this is due to speculative cashflows into property. after the uncertainity of shares, investors needed a more secure asset class to invest in. and as the saying goes, bricks and mortar is always a winner.they had to contain the dotcom blowout, there should have been a huge recession, there wasn't. they did this by decreasing interest rates, increasing money supply, the two tenets of monetary policy. now they are tapped out, rising inflation as living cost get higher, eg energy. in order to contain inflation they need to raise interest rates, vicous cycle.

in the end the elite want medieval fiefdom, a small all powerful upper class, no middle class and a huge working class/serfs to work for them. this is what they will do.we will see defaults/bankrupticies, negative equity. people who have borrowed on the value on their house, releasing equity, will have loans/mortgages that are of a higher value than their house. i blame the financial societies/banks, they have engineered this, greenspan and his ilk have are nwo puppets.

add to this energy security, record decifits, plunging currencies propped up by their main competitors eg china/russia/arabia/india, the petro dollar when it falls will wreak a financial armageddon worldwide. although i expect the euro to pick up the debris of the dollars collapse. then we will have the amero, euro and the asian equivalent, 3 global currencies, which later will harmonise into one global currency. if this moves to rfid/national id/monetary credit card, all electronic, then its all complete, the mark of the beast.

mcmenek1
30-05-2007, 11:49 PM
Hi,

This is no accident things have become like this.......this has been done by cold calculated design by " The Powers That Be" to enslave us..... interest rates were deliberately kept low for years to encourage people to borrow.......the banks and building society’s have fuelled the rise in house prices by lending people more and more money to keep buying these grossly over valued houses....the government has created a shortage in cheap affordable housing by selling off all the council houses and not building anywhere near the amount of housing that’s needed.......


today housing is no longer about having a place to live its turned into having a place to make money this has created a frenzy and has people prepared to take on unbelievable amounts of debt to get onto the housing ladder.......this is all going to end in tears........now the " The Powers That Be" have got the people exactly where they want them at their mercy......through the interest rate mechanism they can now cause a lot of pain, misery, and fear by raising interest rates and this is exactly what they are starting to do......." The Powers That Be" have the power to crash the market and send the uk into an economic nose dive that will cause tremendous amounts of fear and pain for those involved......I think this could be one of their plans to counter act the awakening thats going on at the moment.


It doesn’t have to be like this......why can't a modern country create cheap affordable housing for its people to live in....this could easily be done in the uk with the resources it has......" The Powers That Be" don't want this they want to enslave us that’s why they have created the system we have today.


Like lottie says what’s the point of slaving away all your life to buy a house that you will have to sell in the end to pay for your old age care.......the modern day housing market is nothing more than huge financial trap that’s designed to enslave people and this trap has been set by "The Powers That Be"


I rent in a houseshare with some other people if the interest rate goes up or the housing market crashes it wont effect me......I can see this scam for what it is I'm glad I'm out of it.......


Love
&
Peace

baron von lotsov
31-05-2007, 01:17 AM
I do it differently, I don't have one but still live in a nice house. I'm staying put.

I saw it coming when I was about 20 years old. I never stepped on the treadmill in the first place. Now I have a woman over in Malta with a nice place over there, so we visit each other and It's all sorted. Her mother has a holiday cottage in Gozo which is a small island off Malta, which I might be visiting soon. I suppose its a case of connections.

Mind you I see them in their cars making their way back from the city and really, what can I say. Dumb asses, you get what you deserve for helping to build your own prison.

No one I know does that. They all have their various ways of existing outside the system.

deca
31-05-2007, 03:18 AM
I was lucky bought my house right at the turn only 45,000 mortgage could sell for more than double that ...only had it 5 years i am not going to be fooled into
re mortgaging it. I can walk down my street and see the newish cars sat outside of the people that have I feel sorry for them as the interest rates rise.I still have a lot of debt on me thou and my ex wife still lives here and its in joint names so if I sold up today I would not a have alot in the pot.

a friend told me that a house builder he new said house prices were on a 7year price cycle

investigations
31-05-2007, 03:43 AM
We get the government we deserve and we reap exactly what we sow.
Until the kids today develop a social conscience like the baby boomers had and a spine to boot their will be no change.These kids are the rulers of the future.The baby boomers will probablly turf them from power over the looming pensions crisis.
These kids are strange.They don't even like sex .The NWO seems to force them from oneness by latex and they go along with it. Come back the 60s ;we knew what revolution was.
Make Love, Not War!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

investigations
31-05-2007, 03:49 AM
I was lucky bought my house right at the turn only 45,000 mortgage could sell for more than double that ...only had it 5 years i am not going to be fooled into
re mortgaging it. I can walk down my street and see the newish cars sat outside of the people that have I feel sorry for them as the interest rates rise.I still have a lot of debt on me thou and my ex wife still lives here and its in joint names so if I sold up today I would not a have alot in the pot.

a friend told me that a house builder he new said house prices were on a 7year price cycle

No such cycle . Houses have consistantly doubled in price throughout the last century.
Keep the house 9/10ths of the law. Get yourself a knew woman - one with kids or give her some yourself and your wife wo'nt get "jack shit".

deca
31-05-2007, 11:33 AM
well I think house prices over the long term will raise but there are boom/bust years and looking at this we are heading for big bust.
http://ukmortgagez.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/graph-house-prices-1975-2006.gif

synergy777
31-05-2007, 03:31 PM
first in order to create new order of the world, natural disasters, energy problems, wars, depopulation, financial collpase are needed, order from chaos. a scared, unstable people will crave the security of the new world order. like the population crave security after a terrorist attack. its psychological, gobbels, hitler used this all before, now they have perfected it. the populatipon of the world are manipulated since birth, all of us here where manipulated before we started to to become more aware. for us to have a holier than thou, all knowing stance is hypocritical and pompus. we need to be pragmatic and compassionate. like yashuah said, let he who is free from sin, cast the first stone. so we can't judge others, even though they might judge us.

secondly this generation y, as they are known, are the product of years of work by the elite. the social engineering, tavistock etc. add to this the chemicals, food supply etc. they have been hit from all angles. factor in the education/indoctrination, media, lifestyle choices they are presented with, they stand very little chance of escaping it. add to this parents who are fully indoctrinated, what hope have they got? we being older, wiser should remember our youth, and our know it all stance we had. we should try to reach/teach not judge.

baron von lotsov
31-05-2007, 04:32 PM
well I think house prices over the long term will raise but there are boom/bust years and looking at this we are heading for big bust.
http://ukmortgagez.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/graph-house-prices-1975-2006.gif



That's a good graph.

Now look at 1997 when Nu Labour came to power. The curve does not even register any change what so ever. This goes to show you the elected government have zero control over macro economic policy now. The Bank of England has 100% control.

investigations
31-05-2007, 05:06 PM
well I think house prices over the long term will raise but there are boom/bust years and looking at this we are heading for big bust.
http://ukmortgagez.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/graph-house-prices-1975-2006.gif

There are boom and bust years but they don't affect people who own outright as only a fool would sell then.
That graph pretty much proves what i said -hose prices double every ten years. Good Luck and stay wise

synergy777
31-05-2007, 05:30 PM
see the younger gen, under 25, are in no win situation. they can't afford deposits etc. they are left in economy full of service industry jobs, the government has sold the country down the river. what industry have we got? all our porducts, major companies are foreign/international, they are all moving away anyway. wages are not enjoying the same growth as living cost, property, does anyone notice anything here? service industry jobs, are dependant upon disposable income, if you spending more on living costs, you have less disposable income.

i have many friends in this range of jobs, good working class people. but the government is not working class, they are middle, upper class. they will enjoy the benefits, they have increased their wealth, and will further consildate it off the back of the working classes. how many of the top jobs in govt etc go to oxbridge, eton, harrow etc. do they give a shit, no. to them you are the people that makes their starbucks, serve them their fast food etc. like the blonde twat said in good will hunting, you will be serving my kids fast food from the drive in, on our way to skiiing. they view the working classes as scrubbers, unwashed masses, the useless eaters etc. john lennon said it on working class hero. i have been to top eductaion facilities with trust fund kids etc, i outdid them in class, but they have connections, old school tie network. they viewed me a good, but the way they treated/spoke of others less educated/fortunate, made me realise, i did not want to become an arrogant twit like them. they don't really discriminate on colour, its about family/breeding, heritage, money. however there are good people in upper/middle classes, i know a few, but they are a rarity.

john white
01-06-2007, 04:28 AM
There are boom and bust years but they don't affect people who own outright as only a fool would sell then.
That graph pretty much proves what i said -hose prices double every ten years. Good Luck and stay wise

Good grief, you know nothing

A slave contract with a Bank is a paupers form of security

Funny how the only thing you can usefully buy with a massively over valued house... is another massively overvalued house: and only do that by living a life eqivalent to a rat in a maze

synergy777
01-06-2007, 11:35 AM
can anyone remember the yuppie years, the dotcom boom, what was the thinking, then, the same with property bubble. banks have an invested interest in keeping market sentiment/optism high, they need customers. and they have the perfect get out clause, its a free market, supply and demand, " the value of shares can go down aswell as up" caveat emptor! qou bono?

jinjo5
03-06-2007, 02:33 AM
Tell me about it, some people consider I've got a small mortgage, just under £100,000:eek: Still £700 a month, only 20 years to go!:(
jesus light,what were you thinking of?
Even before,but not really knowing why,ive always said i would never get a mortgage......even before i knew about how banks work...cos i dont see the point of imprisoning yourself with a mortgage,just to say that this is my pile of bricks and im going to give myself 25 years of tension and aggro to prove it.
It aint your house,you miss payments and you will see who it belongs to.
I cant understand the UK'S obsession with needing to own,even when its 'paid' for it can still be taken off you.
It seems to me that saying 'i own my home' is a comfort im better than you statement.....if only they knew....people are so shallow.