Police to get 10,000 Taser guns

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acqui Smith, the home secretary, is to arm police with 10,000 Taser stun guns in an escalation of the government's fight against violent crime.

Smith will unveil plans tomorrow that will enable all 30,000 front-line response officers to be trained in firing the electric guns at knife-wielding thugs and other violent suspects.

Smith said yesterday that £8m will be made available to all 43 police forces in England and Wales to buy the new 50,000-volt weapons.

She said their use will be extended from small units of dedicated firearms officers to up to 30,000 police response officers across the country.
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Officials say the gun could be be used against anyone who put the lives or safety of officers and the public at risk. That includes aggressive drunken yobs, knife-wielding criminals and those who go "berserk" in public. A Taser was successfully used against a fugitive suicide bomber who was captured in Birmingham after the failed July 2005 suicide attacks.

The move to widen the use of Tasers will be criticised by human rights groups and medical experts concerned about the dangers of the powerful guns. Amnesty International says the guns should be restricted to just a "small number" of highly trained officers. It points to cases of fatalities such as that of Robert Dziekanski, a Polish immigrant, who died after being Tasered when he began throwing things after waiting for 10 hours at Vancouver airport last year. Smith, however, is a keen Taser fan. She believes they are essential to protect the safety of frontline officers and will reduce deaths caused by police shooting suspects with real guns.

"I am proud that we have one of the few police services around the world that do not regularly carry firearms and I want to keep it that way," Smith said yesterday.

"But everyday the police put themselves in danger to protect us, the public. They deserve our support, so I want to give the police the tools they tell me they need to confront dangerous people." "That is why I am giving the police 10,000 Tasers to ensure that officers across the country benefit from this form of defence."

The move is backed by the 140,000 rank and file police officers and chief constables. Derek Talbot, of Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO), said trials showed that in 80 per cent of incidents where Tasers were used, the situation as resolved without police needing to use a weapon.:confused::rolleyes:

"This reinforces the value of Taser as a useful tool to make the public and officers safer and to resolve potentially violent situations effectively and rapidly.

"The conclusions of this trial provide further evidence that Taser is a proportionate, low risk means of resolving incidents where the public or officers face severe violence or the threat of such violence which cannot safely be dealt with by other means," he said.

The Taser fires two copper bharbs that send out an electrical shock. It is designed to incapacitate temporarily rather than injure.

The latest version is the X26 which can be effective from 26 feet. It fires a pair of barbs on copper wires that embed themselves in the suspect's clothing and send out an electrical current of 50,00 volts.

The shock can cause temporary loss of muscle control, making the target fall to the ground or freeze on the spot.

Over a recent trial period in ten force areas Tasers were used 661 times. In over 75 per cent of cases an officer simply drew the weapons or pointed the gun's red-dot at the target. Officials say the guns have a "significant deterrent value and on many occasion just producing it has stopped people behaving violently.

"Where they have been fired the potential for serious and lasting injury to the subject can be less than if a gun or [plastic bullet] is used," the Home Office said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5204516.ece

[tracker]

police are not the only ones with tazars you know .

fuckem , of course they will arm them selves .

so whilst they stand there in full battle dress , armed with a batton , a tazar , etc they will tell you

its an arrestable offense to carry a pen knife because its a dangerous weapon .

typical -------------- dont look at me its you tactic .
ie
do as we say and not as we do .

fkers !

[disorder2k8]

I wish somebody would use a taser on that horrible smith woman and shut her up.

[mace]

Heard his on the radio this morning.

As David himself once said "I'll do anything you want mate, just don't use that thing on me"...

:(

[eastbeast]

I wonder how many will get lost.

[killmicrosoft]

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Why every home in Britain should have a Taser gun

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-391145/Why-home-Britain-Taser-gun.html


It is not fair to expect law-abiding home-owners in pyjamas to confront burglars with their bare hands, writes DAVID DAVIES. They should be able to carry electronic stun guns to protect themselves.

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Last Sunday my family became yet another statistic when our house was broken into by thieves armed with an iron bar and one of our own kitchen knives.

I rose early that morning to take my wife Aliz to the airport to fly to Hungary to show off our four-month-old son Dominic to his excited grandparents.

But as I blearily stumbled downstairs, I realised immediately that something terrible had happened. The living room window was wide open and a bag containing passports, mobile phones jewellery and wallets - packed the night before for the trip - was gone.

Aliz is a strong women - she was brought up under the deprivations of Eastern Bloc communism - but even she was in tears. And I was simply too shocked to say anything.

Worse was to come. I looked outside to find that the burglars had driven off in our much-loved old-aging Fiat Punto. Later, I learned, they set fire to it in a forest near Gloucester.

The police officer who came to visit the following morning tried to be helpful but was unable to find any clues that would lead him to the burglars.

He was able to show me the marks where an iron bar had been used to force open a window. One of our kitchen knives was left out in a place where it should not have been.

Monmouth, where we live, is a quietly prosperous and normally peaceful market town where we have always felt safe - crime was always something that happened to other people.

But the impact on our lives has been devastating. We have lost a great deal of money which will not be recovered from insurers. I have spent four days dealing with the insurance companies, sitting in the passport office, changing locks and doing 1,001 other things.

Mental impact

But the cost and the time are trivial in comparison with the mental impact of having our home invaded in this fashion.

Of course we were 'lucky'. The intruders took what they wanted and left without seeing us. We constantly ask ourselves: What would have happened had one of us woken up? Clearly these people must have known that breaking into an occupied house at night incurs a risk of confrontation. It is reasonable to assume they were prepared for this. Had they been confronted there is no doubt in my mind that they would have used the weapons they had, including our own kitchen knife.

This led me to consider the absurdity of the current law which states only that home-owners may use reasonable force to defend themselves but gives no definition of what 'reasonable' might mean.

It is not fair to expect a law-abiding home-owner in pyjamas to confront multiple intruders with his bare hands. On the other hand we are not about to allow people to arm themselves with guns for protection as is the case in America.

There is a simple solution: Let home-owners carry the electronic stun guns commonly known as Tasers.

Do you think home-owners should be able to carry Taser guns? Have your say on reader comments below

It may sound like the saloon bar talk of an angry victim, - but read on with an open mind before making a judgment.

A Taser is a non-lethal weapon looking a bit like a pistol which fires a pair of darts up to 15 feet. These attach themselves to the victim's clothing and deliver a 50,000 volt electric shock - a punch with more stopping power, the manufacturers claim, than a conventional firearm.

Anyone hit suffers extreme pain and temporary paralysis but no permanent injury.

Imagine that, like my family, you are the victim of a night-time burglary. You wake up and frantically reach for the phone to call the police knowing that they will not arrive for some minutes. But instead of leaving you alone the thieves cannot find what they want and start climbing the stairs.

What would you actually do in this situation? You could try to take them on but realistically what chance do you have of overpowering intruders armed with knives and bars?

You could rush out and beg them to leave you alone. Your pleas for mercy might work but on the other hand you might find that along with taking your money the thieves want to beat you unconscious before raping your wife and daughter. It happens.

Hope

The Taser offers a hope. Having heard the noise of the break in your wife dials 999 while you stand at the top of the stairs pointing the gun.

Anyone coming up would have to weigh up their chances of making it to the top before you pulled the trigger. My guess is that most thieves would not take the risk.

Tasers should be available to home-owners to give them an opportunity to protect themselves in the situation I have described.

In order to obtain one you should be required to have a licence, granted on the same basis as a firearms licence.

You should have to undergo the one day training course required for police equipped with these weapons, and misuse of a stun gun or carrying one outside a licensed address would mean a severe prison sentence.

Of course my idea has met with a volley of criticism, which seems to boil down to the fact that this would 'up the ante' and encourage burglars to go out equipped with tasers or guns.

This is unlikely. It is already easy for criminals to buy these weapons because they are available on the continent. But they are impractical for them because they can only be used once before being recharged.

It saddens me that there is a need for drastic measures but let me be more candid than is usual for an MP.

There is an unwritten compact between the State and the citizen. The State has an obligation to use its might to keep us safe from crime. In return, individual householders agree not to bear arms or use anything more than minimal force against intruders.

The State, under Labour and Tony Blair, has manifestly failed to keep its side of the bargain - showing itself to be indifferent to the plight of burglary victims.

So now is the time to begin a serious debate about giving citizens new powers to protect their property and families.

Only one crime in 20 results in a conviction and burglars are not usually jailed unless they have been convicted several times.

Politicians and judges need to realise that only by handing out long prison sentences will we tackle the rise in burglaries.

In the meantime, given the Labour Government's failure to protect law-abiding citizens, it is time for home-owners to reassert their own rights to self defence.

Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, entitled the 'Right to Privacy,' states that everyone has the right for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

And under the terms of Article 8, I demand the right to buy a Taser for my own personal use.




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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_objectid=17180176&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=let-homeowners-use-taser-guns-name_page.html

Let homeowners use Taser guns

A Conservative MP said homeowners should be allowed to arm themselves with Taser guns today after his house was burgled while his family was asleep.

Thieves used David Davies' Fiat Punto as a getaway car when they made off with a bag containing £300 and the family's passports early yesterday morning.

Mr Davies, the MP and Welsh Assembly member for Monmouth, was asleep upstairs with wife Aliz, 27, daughter Sophie, two, and three-month-old son Dominic.

The burglar alarm was turned off because his sister-in-law and her boyfriend were sleeping downstairs at the semi-detached house in the village of Osbaston, south Wales.

The raid meant Mrs Davies was not able to take the children to Hungary the following day where her father was hoping to see his grandson for the first time.

Mr Davies, who has called for tougher sentencing of criminals, said constraints on people trying to defend their homes were crazy.

'I feel devastated and violated. It's an absolute disaster,' he said.

'It's quite disturbing, especially when it happens in the way it did with young children sleeping upstairs.

'I'm left wondering what would have happened if we had found them, which we could easily have done.'

He said training people to use electronic stun guns would prevent cases such as that of farmer Tony Martin who shot a 16-year-old intruder dead on his property in Norfolk.

'I know exactly how he felt,' Mr Davies said. 'You can see why people would not want to take any chances.

'Why shouldn't responsible householders be allowed to carry a Taser if they have been trained to use it?'

He believed the burglars, who broke in through a downstairs window, armed themselves with a knife found lying on a kitchen surface the following morning.

Police later discovered the abandoned burnt-out shell of the W-reg Fiat, he added.

'The moral of the story is don't leave your car keys hanging up in the kitchen,' he said.


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[marpat]

What is preferable, being tasered or being shot. At least if they take violent people down with a taser they will live.

[killmicrosoft]

IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM TAG THEM

http://www.stoppa.co.uk/acatalog/Click_Here_FOr_UK_Legal_Self_Defence_Sprays.html (http://www.stoppa.co.uk/acatalog/Click_Here_FOr_UK_Legal_Self_Defence_Sprays.html)

[london_lad_84]

police are not the only ones with tazars you know .

fuckem , of course they will arm them selves .

so whilst they stand there in full battle dress , armed with a batton , a tazar , etc they will tell you

its an arrestable offense to carry a pen knife because its a dangerous weapon .

typical -------------- dont look at me its you tactic .
ie
do as we say and not as we do .

fkers !



This is part of the agenda, this is the response the illuminati agenda want. People fighting for peace, that statement is a paradox, people have to peace for peace.

[tyler]

Will somebody please look up the stats and tell this Marpat geezer how many people have died in America and Canada after being tazered. Remember the poor Polish guy at the airport who couldn't speak English and had just arrived in Canada to stay with his mother? Dead after being tazered for throwing some furniture around. How many others?
I thought we had seen the last of Marpat!

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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_objectid=17180176&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=let-homeowners-use-taser-guns-name_page.html

Let homeowners use Taser guns

A Conservative MP said homeowners should be allowed to arm themselves with Taser guns today after his house was burgled while his family was asleep.

Thieves used David Davies' Fiat Punto as a getaway car when they made off with a bag containing £300 and the family's passports early yesterday morning.

Mr Davies, the MP and Welsh Assembly member for Monmouth, was asleep upstairs with wife Aliz, 27, daughter Sophie, two, and three-month-old son Dominic.

The burglar alarm was turned off because his sister-in-law and her boyfriend were sleeping downstairs at the semi-detached house in the village of Osbaston, south Wales.

The raid meant Mrs Davies was not able to take the children to Hungary the following day where her father was hoping to see his grandson for the first time.

Mr Davies, who has called for tougher sentencing of criminals, said constraints on people trying to defend their homes were crazy.

'I feel devastated and violated. It's an absolute disaster,' he said.

'It's quite disturbing, especially when it happens in the way it did with young children sleeping upstairs.

'I'm left wondering what would have happened if we had found them, which we could easily have done.'

He said training people to use electronic stun guns would prevent cases such as that of farmer Tony Martin who shot a 16-year-old intruder dead on his property in Norfolk.

'I know exactly how he felt,' Mr Davies said. 'You can see why people would not want to take any chances.

'Why shouldn't responsible householders be allowed to carry a Taser if they have been trained to use it?'

He believed the burglars, who broke in through a downstairs window, armed themselves with a knife found lying on a kitchen surface the following morning.

Police later discovered the abandoned burnt-out shell of the W-reg Fiat, he added.

'The moral of the story is don't leave your car keys hanging up in the kitchen,' he said.


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again what we see here is typical of the mind set in power .

no one is allowed to arm them self until a member of power gets attacked them self .

tuff tittys , now they know what its like to live in fear .

shame ,
maybe more of these power people should be attacked in their own homes and on the street too to see what its like to live in real reality . they would soon change the arms at home law wouldnt they ?

but then of cours they would , so that they can lawfully protect them selves .

no i dont want them attacked at the end of the day , but none of them live in reality , so until then we have to face being attacked
being done as a criminal for defending our selves
and still have to pay those greedy greedy bastards for their jobs who at the end of the day

created such laws to put us in this mess in the 1st place .

its not a democracy , its a nazi dictatorship !

[marpat]

Will somebody please look up the stats and tell this Marpat geezer how many people have died in America and Canada after being tazered. Remember the poor Polish guy at the airport who couldn't speak English and had just arrived in Canada to stay with his mother? Dead after being tazered for throwing some furniture around. How many others?
I thought we had seen the last of Marpat!

Instead of asking somebody else to look it up why dont you do it yourself.

I am sure less people die of being tasered than gunshots.

Tasered for throwing furniture round. His own fucking fault then. If he wasnt an asshole he would would not have been shocked.

[phaid]

As Canadian Freeman Robert Menard shows in his latest film 'Demockery',

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2029073635097751015&hl=en

when the RCMP started to use tasers as a 'replacement' for firearms they used them in situations where, if the victim was killed 'accidently', the police could excuse themselves by saying that they couldn't predict the reaction of the tasered individual to the shock. Menard asks that if the situation was still a 'gun' situation, then the police would be the subject of a 'Menezes'-style investigation, but now they've got tasers they don't seem to held as responsible, even though it could lead to a fatality.

Think of the Menezes situation - but instead of being shot, he was tasered to death - the police may well have been held unaccountable in the case of his death.

So what this seems to mean is that the police will now be able to use tasers in situations where previously they would have been much more accountable (as in firearms situations), basically stepping up the level of unaccountable violence against the public, and any deaths will be treated as an 'accident'.

[marpat]

As Canadian Freeman Robert Menard shows in his latest film 'Demockery',

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2029073635097751015&hl=en

when the RCMP started to use tasers as a 'replacement' for firearms they used them in situations where, if the victim was killed 'accidently', the police could excuse themselves by saying that they couldn't predict the reaction of the tasered individual to the shock. Menard asks that if the situation was still a 'gun' situation, then the police would be the subject of a 'Menezes'-style investigation, but now they've got tasers they don't seem to held as responsible, even though it could lead to a fatality.

Think of the Menezes situation - but instead of being shot, he was tasered to death - the police may well have been held unaccountable in the case of his death.

So what this seems to mean is that the police will now be able to use tasers in situations where previously they would have been much more accountable (as in firearms situations), basically stepping up the level of unaccountable violence against the public, and any deaths will be treated as an 'accident'.


Or maybe it is calculated risk, ie. the risk of them dying through it compared to the risk they pose to other people. Situation like that involve risk of some sort and if the antagonist has created a situation in which he gets tasered it is his own fault. Dont forget that a lot of people arm themselves with knives, etc. so it is not as if they are innocent people just out for a walk when a policeman tasers them.

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POLICEMEN across England and Wales could not sleep last night after being told they were going to get electric stun guns.


The Home Office said 10,000 tasers would be issued to forces across the country, causing the Police Federation to jump up and down while holding its privates to stop it from unrinating.

Tom Logan, a constable from Norwich, said: "I'll be like 'freeze scumbag!' and then he'll be like 'no way, copper' and I'll be like 'zzzzap!'.

"And then he'll be on the ground all jiggling and stuff and the electricity will be all over his body and it'll be all blue and sparky and then his eyes will just, like, pop out of his head and explode!"

According to the Home Office tasers can be used in almost any situation, apart from disabling Brazilian electricians who have 'built up an immunity'.

A Home Office spokesman said: "It will allow frontline officers to confront potentially dangerous suspects with increased confidence and be totally amazing."

He added: "Tasers are better than ordinary guns because they're electric. They're actually a bit like lasers. And who in their right mind is going to want want a gun when they could have a laser?

"Imagine, right, if you had a gun and I had a laser, you could shoot at me and I could, like, use my laser to deflect the bullet and then shoot you. Guns... fuck off."

In a separate announcement the Department of Health has predicted a 100,000% increase in members of the public electrocuted for being cheeky.

[krakhead]

Or maybe it is calculated risk, ie. the risk of them dying through it compared to the risk they pose to other people. Situation like that involve risk of some sort and if the antagonist has created a situation in which he gets tasered it is his own fault. Dont forget that a lot of people arm themselves with knives, etc. so it is not as if they are innocent people just out for a walk when a policeman tasers them.

In the realm of pure logical thought your argument may hold some weight. But come on Marpat, surely you can see the risks of these being introduced and used massively innappropriately by poorly trained (2 days!!), heavily 'roided (;)) police officers.

You do say that "IF the antagonist has created a situation in which he gets tasered it is his own fault" - I'll leave your use of the word 'antagonist' alone for now - anyway, IF? IF?? How about all those times times when the recipient of the intervention DIDN'T create the situation? Or do they not count?

Police violence towards peaceful protestors is very well documented (and I have been on the receiving end of police intimidation/brutality at demos often enough to know for myself that it's a very real and common occurance), so why on earth would you think that suddenly they will act appropriately with their new toys and actually begin to 'weigh up' the situation in a measured, professional manner prior to 'zapping' the ass off someone who was acting lawfully?

[pinkgrapefruit]

Tasered for throwing furniture round. His own fucking fault then. If he wasnt an asshole he would would not have been shocked.

Or maybe it is calculated risk, ie. the risk of them dying through it compared to the risk they pose to other people. Situation like that involve risk of some sort and if the antagonist has created a situation in which he gets tasered it is his own fault. Dont forget that a lot of people arm themselves with knives, etc. so it is not as if they are innocent people just out for a walk when a policeman tasers them.

Nice... So it's the death penalty for being an arsehole then?

Now I know you're not actually saying that, but you are saying that the punishment could be death (a calculated risk, you say). In which case well... that's just luck of the draw.

All on this site will know that the Police enforce 'laws' that they are not necessarily entitled to enforce... So when we Citizens question the Officers' authority.....ZAP! So we take the risk of death for asserting our freedoms. Would that be our own fault?

[marpat]

Nice... So it's the death penalty for being an arsehole then?

Now I know you're not actually saying that, but you are saying that the punishment could be death (a calculated risk, you say). In which case well... that's just luck of the draw.

All on this site will know that the Police enforce 'laws' that they are not necessarily entitled to enforce... So when we Citizens question the Officers' authority.....ZAP! So we take the risk of death for asserting our freedoms. Would that be our own fault?


Or maybe if the guy wasnt throwing stuff around in the first place and being violent then he would not have been tasered.

[marpat]

In the realm of pure logical thought your argument may hold some weight. But come on Marpat, surely you can see the risks of these being introduced and used massively innappropriately by poorly trained (2 days!!), heavily 'roided (;)) police officers.

You do say that "IF the antagonist has created a situation in which he gets tasered it is his own fault" - I'll leave your use of the word 'antagonist' alone for now - anyway, IF? IF?? How about all those times times when the recipient of the intervention DIDN'T create the situation? Or do they not count?

Police violence towards peaceful protestors is very well documented (and I have been on the receiving end of police intimidation/brutality at demos often enough to know for myself that it's a very real and common occurance), so why on earth would you think that suddenly they will act appropriately with their new toys and actually begin to 'weigh up' the situation in a measured, professional manner prior to 'zapping' the ass off someone who was acting lawfully?


I would expect there to be tight restraints for the use of such devices. Although they are considered non-lethal it will not be a case of just using them without justification. I will agree that you always have some police who might be tempted to overdo it. I would also think that they will be issued mainly to areas with a high incidence of crime involving weapons such as London or other inner city areas.

Personally I am not a big fan of the police but can see why such a thing has come about.

[angelthecat]

innocent and unarmed people will die and have died because of the use of tazers. I believe that the police will use them just to gain compliance. in other words it will be a torture instrument to gain a confession (as in Canada) with total disregard for the rest of the human rights we still try to cling to. The prime minister is responsible for the introduction of this weapon to our streets and if a innocent human dies he should be tried for being an accomplice to murder before the fact

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=skytrain+tazer&search_type=&aq=o
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZLlAzOUyQ

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dj7kz4MfjQ8

[kweli]

This blokes crime? Falling into a diabetic coma on a bus whilst carrying a rucksack. They apparently mistook him for an Arab suicide bomber; he was white but they thought he 'looked egyptian'. This happened last year, right here in Yorkshire.

'A MAN who slipped into a diabetic coma on the top deck of a bus has described how he was used for electric stun gun "target practice" after police mistook him for a suicide bomber.

Nicholas Gaubert was shot twice with a Taser gun in what he said was a chilling precursor to the death of innocent Jean Charles de Menezes in London just over a week later.'

full report:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/I-went-into-a-diabetic.3489707.jp[/CENTER]

'Misfortune' they call it. Nothing to do with trigger happy cops worked up to a frenzy by the 'war on terror' programming they subscribe to.

Mr Gaubert, 34, had the misfortune to suffer his fit on July 13, 2005, six days after three Tube trains and a London bus were bombed by Islamist terrorists. A day before his bus trip, Leeds had been placed on high alert after the discovery that three of the four 7/7 bombers came from the city.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2879875.ece

[marpat]

innocent and unarmed people will die and have died because of the use of tazers. I believe that the police will use them just to gain compliance. in other words it will be a torture instrument to gain a confession (as in Canada) with total disregard for the rest of the human rights we still try to cling to. The prime minister is responsible for the introduction of this weapon to our streets and if a innocent human dies he should be tried for being an accomplice to murder before the fact

http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=skytrain+tazer&search_type=&aq=o
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZLlAzOUyQ

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dj7kz4MfjQ8


That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Dont you know that extracting information under torture is not only illegal but would cause any prosecution to be thrown out.

[pduffy4]

I would expect there to be tight restraints for the use of such devices. Although they are considered non-lethal it will not be a case of just using them without justification. I will agree that you always have some police who might be tempted to overdo it. I would also think that they will be issued mainly to areas with a high incidence of crime involving weapons such as London or other inner city areas.

Personally I am not a big fan of the police but can see why such a thing has come about.

Bollocks!

US cops taser battling granny, 75
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/21/granny_spark_out/

Deputy Shocks Girl, 11, With Taser At Elementary School
http://www.local6.com/news/15721677/detail.html

Cop Tasers girl, 16, during traffic stop
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/10/report-cop-uses-taser-on-girl-16.html

Deputy Uses Taser On 12-Year-Old Girl Skipping School
http://www.wftv.com/news/3919003/detail.html

Yeh, sure there will be restraint in the UK just like they are clearly restrained in the USA, not, I mean they wouldn't actually taser a 6 month old for spitting out its dummy, would they..?

[pduffy4]

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Dont you know that extracting information under torture is not only illegal but would cause any prosecution to be thrown out.

What Planet are you from marpat?

The USA has openly admitted to the use of torture.

I have to wonder whose side you are on marpat. It does not appear to be that of humanity.

[cheeney1]

I would expect there to be tight restraints for the use of such devices. Although they are considered non-lethal it will not be a case of just using them without justification. I will agree that you always have some police who might be tempted to overdo it. I would also think that they will be issued mainly to areas with a high incidence of crime involving weapons such as London or other inner city areas.

Personally I am not a big fan of the police but can see why such a thing has come about.\

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Utter Crap how would you like to be a test Dummie For One Of These Tasers ever been struck with a cattle Prod they FUCKING HURT :mad:

[ownoiz]

Beware of using tasers on police, you get crackling :D :rolleyes: :o

[goldman]

See Demockery, that talks about tasers:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2029073635097751015

[pinkgrapefruit]

What Planet are you from marpat?

The USA has openly admitted to the use of torture.

I have to wonder whose side you are on marpat. It does not appear to be that of humanity.

My thoughts too!

Marpat... Are you posting on the correct site???

[eastbeast]

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Utter Crap how would you like to be a test Dummie For One Of These Tasers ever been struck with a cattle Prod they FUCKING HURT :mad:


I saw a telly program where a Guy had just been Tazered, when he recovered he said he had also been shot in the past, being shot hurt less!

I don't fancy either thanks.

[bicycle]

Jacqui Smith's Taser plan suffers blow after Met Police Authority's rejection

The authority overseeing Britain’s largest police force warned that a government decision to allow Taser stun guns to be used by non-specialist firearms officers threatened to cause “fear” among the public.

Jacqui Smith’s announcement that 10,000 of the weapons are to be supplied to 43 forces in England and Wales suffered an immediate blow when the Metropolitan Police Authority said it had no intention sanctioning their wider deployment in London.

The move by the Authority, which oversees the Metropolitan Police, cames as Amnesty International warned of the danger that officers would start using Tasers on a routine basis.

After trials in which front line officers in ten forces have used the Taser gun, Ms Smith said that £8m is to be spent on supplying 10,000 weapons to all forces. At present, only specialist firearms officers carry the guns - but this will now be extended to an estimated 30,000 front line officers who have been trained to use the weapon.
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Tasers, which are manufactured in the United States, deliver powerful electric shocks up to 10 metres away, leaving targets incapacitated and easier to arrest.

Officers shoot two barbed darts trailing wires from a special gun, which then deliver the electric shot of about 50,000 volts.

Within hours of Ms Smith making the announcement, the Metropolitan Police Authority warned that allowing Tasers to be used by non-specialist firearms officers had the potential to cause “fear” and “damage public confidence” in the police.

The Authority said it had no intention of sanctioning an increase in the availability of Tasers in London.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police Authority said it would not take up the offer of funding immediately because of the potential of Tasers to cause “fear” and “damage public confidence” in the police.

He said: “The MPA has no intention of immediately sanctioning any increase in the availability of Tasers to officers in the Met.

“The current arrangements in the Met are that only trained and supervised specialist officers may deploy Tasers, and were introduced after an extensive consultation and communication programme with London’s communities.”

The Home Secretary said the police needed tools to protect themselves and the public, but critics warned of the danger that officers would start using Tasers on a routine basis.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5224058.ece

[marpat]

What Planet are you from marpat?

The USA has openly admitted to the use of torture.

I have to wonder whose side you are on marpat. It does not appear to be that of humanity.


But I dont live in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Newsflash for you too. This thread is about tasers being used in the UK.

I feel that you are on the side of rebellion, the cause of Satan.

[poohkits]

Sign the Anti Taser petition here

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Tasercontrol/

[pduffy4]

But I dont live in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used the US as an example. It does not matter where you live.

Newsflash for you too. This thread is about tasers being used in the UK.
You don't say. I know that!

I feel that you are on the side of rebellion, the cause of Satan.
I am on the side of having a Revolution in the UK and accross the world. You are clearly not for that, you are some kind of Government stooge!

You say rebellion is the cause of Satan? Bullshit. We have a God given right to rebell against oppression and indeed we must.

[pduffy4]

Sign the Anti Taser petition here

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Tasercontrol/

Signed.
Revolution!

[free_soul]

Is this just easing us into fully armed police???

All i think of when i hear it (a little like ID cards and chips)

[marpat]

I used the US as an example. It does not matter where you live.


You don't say. I know that!


I am on the side of having a Revolution in the UK and accross the world. You are clearly not for that, you are some kind of Government stooge!

You say rebellion is the cause of Satan? Bullshit. We have a God given right to rebell against oppression and indeed we must.

Is not satan the archetype of rebellion?

So because I disagree I am a stooge. Those are the choices are they, either you are with us or one of them. Nothing like trying to steer peoples minds.

[marpat]

Is this just easing us into fully armed police???

All i think of when i hear it (a little like ID cards and chips)

I doubt it really because there are a lot of people who would be happy to have armed police. It would not bother me one bit.

If it wasn't for the country being full of violent scumbags there would not be a need for such measures. I guess this is where somebody pops up and quote problem-reaction-solution and then tries to make out a case for the government being responsible for the stupidity of violent people. The fact is that violent crime, often armed, is increasing even though the government try to tell us that it is reducing. This is just another gadget to make thugs think twice before they injure somebody. At least they will walk away.