GODDESSES on Coins and Notes

[tinmenace]

I am working on a post for I Am All I Am's thread called The Thirteenth Astrological Star Sign (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4101), and during my search for images of goddesses I found the website for the US Mint. I had never before really paid too much attention to the art on the coins, but I took a closer look at some last night, and I thought I'd share them;

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/dime1.jpg

The Dime: This is the reverse side of the coin and shows the Torch (of Illumination), an Olive Branch (Ancient Olympian victors were given wreaths made of olive branches, which symbolizes Victory - another goddess...it is also supposedly the symbol of peace, but that is a massive contradiction in light of the behavior of the US military's aggression, so I'm going to stick with Victory) and the Oak Branch (depending on the source, means strength or wisdom - more goddess connotations).

The obverse side of the coin shows a portrait of Roosevelt.





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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freedom.jpg

Does she look familiar to you? I started a thread called STATUES - In and around DC (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4072) and she is the goddess representing Freedom, and stands on top of the Capitol Building in Washington DC (IN GOD WE TRUST - Really? Which gods exactly?). We know that she does not represent freedom for you or me, or any other citizen of the world, so freedom for whom then? And freedom to do what exactly? Judging by the condition of this planet and its inhabitants, I think the answer is pretty clear.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/freedom_1.jpg





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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/nike.jpg

1988 U.S. Olympic: The official description of this coin says that this is the goddess Nike, the Greek goddess of Victory. The ribbon in her hair says "IN GOD WE TRUST". Is this supposed to mean that Nike believed in God? No, of course not! It meant that she is a god, and that they believe in her. Once again the wreath made of olive branches, clearly symbolizing victory since she is the goddess of victory.




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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ny.jpg

New York Quarter: So, the Statue of Liberty is in New York, so it's no big surprise that the goddess Liberty should be on the coin. The thing that interested me most was the ELEVEN stars. My initial reaction was to think about September 11, 2001 (note these coins were minted in 2001). But, those 11 pentagrams represent the fact that New York was the 11th state to ratify the United States Constitution, on July 26, 1788. What a coincidence with the numbers....NOT! Also, notice all the eights in the date.




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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/liberty5.jpg

IN GOD WE TRUST. Wtf? It's so obvious that it's not the God most Christians or Muslims or Jews (or any other main stream religion) believe in. They believe in the ancient gods of Greece and Rome (some of which are based on even older gods and goddesses, like Ishtar for example - Libertas is Ishtar... she goes by many other names too) and they are proudly displaying it on everything right in our faces, and yet we cannot see it. This is their god. Ishtar, amongst many. My gawd, how much more obvious does it have to be?



More to come....stay tuned. (please feel free to add your own coins too)

[montag]

IN GOD WE TRUST. Wtf? It's so obvious that it's not the God most Christians or Muslims or Jews (or any other main stream religion) believe in. They believe in the ancient gods of Greece and Rome (some of which are based on even older gods and goddesses, like Ishtar for example - Libertas is Ishtar... she goes by many other names too) and they are proudly displaying it on everything right in our faces, and yet we cannot see it. This is their god. Ishtar, amongst many. My gawd, how much more obvious does it have to be?


I just did a quick search on the origin of the phrase 'in god we trust' and this is what the US treasury have to say on the matter.

The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861. It was written to Secretary Chase by Rev. M. R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania, and read:

Dear Sir: You are about to submit your annual report to the Congress respecting the affairs of the national finances.

One fact touching our currency has hitherto been seriously overlooked. I mean the recognition of the Almighty God in some form on our coins.

You are probably a Christian. What if our Republic were not shattered beyond reconstruction? Would not the antiquaries of succeeding centuries rightly reason from our past that we were a heathen nation? What I propose is that instead of the goddess of liberty we shall have next inside the 13 stars a ring inscribed with the words PERPETUAL UNION; within the ring the allseeing eye, crowned with a halo; beneath this eye the American flag, bearing in its field stars equal to the number of the States united; in the folds of the bars the words GOD, LIBERTY, LAW.

This would make a beautiful coin, to which no possible citizen could object. This would relieve us from the ignominy of heathenism. This would place us openly under the Divine protection we have personally claimed. From my hearth I have felt our national shame in disowning God as not the least of our present national disasters.

To you first I address a subject that must be agitated.

As a result, Secretary Chase instructed James Pollock, Director of the Mint at Philadelphia, to prepare a motto, in a letter dated November 20, 1861:

Dear Sir: No nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins.

You will cause a device to be prepared without unnecessary delay with a motto expressing in the fewest and tersest words possible this national recognition.

It was found that the Act of Congress dated January 18, 1837, prescribed the mottoes and devices that should be placed upon the coins of the United States. This meant that the mint could make no changes without the enactment of additional legislation by the Congress. In December 1863, the Director of the Mint submitted designs for new one-cent coin, two-cent coin, and three-cent coin to Secretary Chase for approval. He proposed that upon the designs either OUR COUNTRY; OUR GOD or GOD, OUR TRUST should appear as a motto on the coins. In a letter to the Mint Director on December 9, 1863, Secretary Chase stated:

I approve your mottoes, only suggesting that on that with the Washington obverse the motto should begin with the word OUR, so as to read OUR GOD AND OUR COUNTRY. And on that with the shield, it should be changed so as to read: IN GOD WE TRUST.

Continued here.. http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml

[tinmenace]

Wow! And yet not one image of God anywhere in the Capitol, on any of our currency, or anywhere. Unbelievable.

Thanks for the info :)

[tinmenace]

Walking Liberty

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/walking%20liberty.jpg



Standing Liberty

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Standing_Liberty_Quarter.jpg



Seated Liberty

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1857_seated_liberty_half_dime_obverse.jpg



Liberty on the Barber Quarter

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Barber_Quarter_Obverse.png



Liberty (again...)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/liberty.jpg



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/liberty2.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/liberty3.jpg


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1dollarliberty.jpg



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/flame.jpg



http://www.globalfailure.com/images/flame2.jpg

The Olympic motto is "Citius, Altius, Fortius." These three Latin words mean "Swifter (faster), Higher, Stronger."

[lottie]

you mention one with 11 stars Tin but the rest all have 13 stars...i wonder why that one was different?

[tinmenace]

you mention one with 11 stars Tin but the rest all have 13 stars...i wonder why that one was different?

Hiya Lottie :)

It's the same as the 13 stripes on the flag. There were 13 original colonies. Interesting number right?

[lottie]

hey Tin just found these- i was tryin to find pics of pur fifty pence peice as i know there's a lot of symbolism on our currency too- the woman on our fifty pence piece looks a bit like your goddess sat down too...holding an olive branch...
http://www.24carat.co.uk/fiftypencestoryframe.html

i also recall in the summer discovering the double helix on our £2 coin!!

[tinmenace]

Coins from the United Kingdom


Fleur de lis - The Trinity

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/SCOUT50P.jpg

Be prepared for what exactly?



The goddess Britannia holding onto her Trident (also favored by Poseidon)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/britannia.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1987britanniarev240.jpg



What is this at the feet of the horse?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1998fivepoundgoldproofrev240.jpg




A more ancient coin...Charles II depicted as a god.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/charlesiiasgod.JPG



Edward I - Is this supposed to be a human?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/edwardI.JPG



Or this? Ethelred II

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ethelredII.jpg




Pentagrams within Pentagrams?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/pentagrams.jpg




Elizabeth II depicted as a goddess

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/lizIIasgoddess.JPG

[tinmenace]

hey Tin just found these- i was tryin to find pics of pur fifty pence peice as i know there's a lot of symbolism on our currency too- the woman on our fifty pence piece looks a bit like your goddess sat down too...holding an olive branch...
http://www.24carat.co.uk/fiftypencestoryframe.html

i also recall in the summer discovering the double helix on our £2 coin!!

We were on the same wavelength! LOL, I was posting it just as you were..

Yes, I think there is a post somewhere with the double helix? So appropriate really because DNA is what keeps these people living in the lap of luxury while people around the world are starving. This is their claim to the throne - their DNA.

[tinmenace]

French 50 Euro cents

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/50eurocents.jpg
A goddess, yeah?




This is the goddess Marianne on the French Euro. Guess who she is? Yep! She represents Liberty.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/marianne-liberty.jpg




Finnish Euro

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/finnisheuro.jpg




German Euro with the Oak branch

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/german%20euro.jpg



Greek Euro - Athena's Owl (That style of owl is taken from a small silver coin called a Tetradrachm, which dates from Greece in the middle of the fifth century BC. On one side of the coin is Athena and the other side shows her pet owl)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/athenasowl.jpg


Greek Euro - Goddess Europa being abducted by Zeus

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/europaabductedbyzeus.jpg



Italian Euro - Birth of the goddess Venus

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/birthofvenus.jpg

[limelady]

Hey.... this is incredibly fascinating stuff!!

Later on I'll see if I can dig up some New Zealand and Australian coins.

[i am all i am]

you mention one with 11 stars Tin but the rest all have 13 stars...i wonder why that one was different?

G'day Lottie.

I noticed the one with 11 stars as well...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ny.jpg
When I first saw this one, the river behind her reminded me of this...
http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/image/ophiuchus.JPG
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4101

Ophiuchus is the 13th astrological star sign, so I can undesrtand the hidden meaning behind the 13. Does this then mean that the 11 stars represents the 11th star sign Aquarius ???

If so, what meaning does this have ???

Sign.............Tree........................Month ..........................Symbol

Luis.............Rowan..........January 21 - February 17............Green dragon


The Rowan Tree
Luis

The Rowan tree stands in the center of Stonehenge, the ancient gathering place of the Druids. In Celtic legend, the tree was considered to be the magical tree of life. The tree was guarded by a fiery green dragon, a powerful symbol of life during the time of year when night still ruled the day. Stonehenge symbolically formed a giant candle at the Celtic feast of Candlemas, marking the quickening of the year. The fiery breath of the dragon ignited the vital current of energy pulsing through the stones, regenerating the flame of eternal life.
Ruling Deity – Brigid, the Goddes of fertility and poetry.
Planetary Ruler – Uranus.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Aquarius.svg/50px-Aquarius.svg.png
The best-known myth identifies Aquarius with Ganymede, a beautiful youth with whom Zeus fell in love, and whom he (in the disguise of an eagle, represented as the constellation Aquila) carried off to Olympus to be cupbearer to the gods. Crater is sometimes identified as his cup.

Aquarius is also associated with the Greco-Roman god Uranus/Caelus and sometimes the god Cronus/Saturn.

Aquarius (astrology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Sign.............Tree........................Month ..........................Symbol

Beth.............Birch........December 24 - January 20.............The eagle or stag

The Birch Tree
Beth

The birch tree is associated with the letter Beth in the Celtic tree alphabet, the first of the thirteen consonants of the Celtic letters that formed a calendar of seasonal tree magic. The spirit of the birch tree projects the faint aura of the sun, representing the rise of the Solar King from the dark slumber of night. This ethereal light symbolizes the divinity of the Dryad or tree spirit. The golden eagle flying overhead carries the salmon, a bright symbol of knowledge. The statuesque white stag is a symbol of the eventual fate of the Sun King, who will reign for seven months in the thirteen month calendar of the Druids.
Ruling Deity – The Celtic warrior God Lugh, inventor of all arts and crafts.
Planetary Ruler – Sun.

Is Beth represented in E-li(z)a(rd)-beth, connecting with the green dragon ???

And what has it got to do with Zues, the Father of the Gods, disguised as an eagle ???

The Elder Tree
Ruis

The magical deep purple berries of the elder tree relate to inception, the beginning of the mystical birth of the Celtic Sun God. A huge black raven flies above the child with a wreath of mistletoe around its neck and a lustrous black pearl in its mouth. It is the messenger of impending death, the physical death that precedes spiritual rebirth. To the Celts, the secret of Annwn is revealed at the time of the winter solstice, which marks the shortest day and heralds the rebirth of the Sun. The winter solstice on December 22nd was known as Alban Arthuan in the Druidic calendar.
Ruling Deity – Cailleach Beara, the crown Goddess and Celtic tribal mother.
Planetary Ruler – Saturn.

What is the connection between Saturn and Uranus that are associated with Aquarius ???

And what does the "GATEWAY TO FREEDOM" represent ???

Could it all be representational of how to navigate through the constellations via gateways or stargates ???

The symbology raises a lot of questions and there are so many interconnected parts that it can be diffcult to sort out.....good old astrotheology huh.



http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE. http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[lottie]

hey guys ive found it- actually looking at all the £2 coins there's a lot of symbolism and stuff i dont really understand....maybe you huys can help? Tin does this thread have to be just 'goddesses' on coins or can we have symbolism of anykind?? as i dont want to hijack your thread- but i'd love to look at all the symbolism.....

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7792/2pound2003gh3.jpg

[tinmenace]

Nah sweetie, whatever you find interesting on the coins/paper money is fine. I'm not sensitive about threads evolving. ;) You post whatever you find fascinating. I can't wait to see what else you find :)

[lottie]

cheers Tin :) well hows this for starters then... we were talking about the 13 stars etc on the coins and as i was looking for the american coat of arms for lumukandas thread i found and explanaition about all the 13's and a bit about olive branches too...i know we are looking at coins and this relates to the coat of arms but i dont think it should be ignored ...see what you think...

The Viking explorers of America, like Bjarni Herjulfon, Eric the Red and his son Leif Ericsson who landed in America long before Christopher Columbus, were Danes (Dan-ish), descended from their Israelite father Dan (Genesis 30:6). The American founding Pilgrim-fathers and the Anglo-Saxon American people are descended from Jacob/Israel's favourite son Joseph, of the Coat of many "Colours" fame; the Irish-Americans are also, like the Vikings, descended from Joseph's older brother Dan and are known in Irish history as the Tuatha de Danaan.

The Eagle on the American Coat-of-Arms; which is very different from the heraldic-eagles (which are often two-headed) used by other nations; is the Emblem of Dan, from whom the Danes and Irish are descended and who have intermingled in America with their Anglo-Saxon brothers from the tribe of Joseph/Manasseh, whose Olive-branch and Arrows the Eagle holds firmly and safely in its claws.

The Israelite tribe of Joseph of the Coat of many Colours/Coats-of-Arms* is, in fact, divided into two:- Ephraim and Manasseh. Joseph had two sons called Ephraim and Manasseh who, today, are the English and Anglo-Saxon Americans respectively.

Abraham, Joseph's great grandad, was told by God that, "in Isaac shall your seed be called" (Genesis 21 v 12). Isaac's sons - Saac's sons - Saxons. The English and the Anglo-Americans are Engel-o'-Saxons. God's Word is ever TRUE.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) split off from their brothers Ephraim/the English and they lost a colony (Isaiah 49 v 20 - in 1776) and Ephraim's descendants then went East; North and South, in exactly the order Prophesied by God in Genesis 28:14.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) like Joseph/Ephraim also spread forth taking the Bible around the world and became a great people (Genesis 49 v 19) whilst Joseph/Ephraim (the English) became a multitude/Commonwealth of Nations and God made their name GREAT (Genesis 12 v 2) - Great Britain.

The Olive from which the "oil" (of Understanding) comes was Jacob/Israel's Emblem (see Paul's letter to the Romans 11 v 24-25) which he gave, along with his name Israel, to Joseph's two sons - Ephraim and Manasseh [not to Judah/Jew-dah - the Jews or any of Joseph's ten other Hebrew brothers] (Genesis 48 v 16).

Joseph and the white horseman of the Apocalypse/Revelation were both to have a BOW. The bowmen of England are the most famous in the history of the world and with God's help were not defeated (Genesis 49 v 24). Note well also, in the Authorized Version of the Bible, where "the Shepherd" will come from - Joseph NOT Judah. NOT from the Jews, as has been wrongly believed for 2,000 years.

The Coat-of-Arms of Joseph's Sheaf-field (Sheffield - Genesis 37:7); in Engel-land (the Engel is the Wild-ox or Unicorn shown on the British Coat-of-Arms); has on it ARROWS. The Unicorn-Emblem belongs equally to, and is the primary-emblem of, Manasseh (the Engel-o'-Saxon Americans) as much as it does to their brothers the Engel-ish; their secondary-emblems being the Olive and the Arrows.

Now look at the American Eagle on the Official Emblem of the United States of America and you will see that in its left-claws it holds ARROWS, 13 of them. Britannia, in the full picture, sits under an OLIVE tree and in the normal picture of her she holds an OLIVE-branch in her hand. The American Eagle has in its right-claws an OLIVE branch, with 13 olives and 13 leaves on it. Israel, in Scripture, is referred to (metaphorically) as God's Wife and therefore, accordingly, Britannia is a WOMAN not a man, as one would expect a soldier-emblem to be.

Joseph/Manasseh; which was one half-tribe of Joseph; was known as the 13th tribe of Israel. If we look at American Symbols we will see 13 over and over again. There are 13 stripes on the shield and on the national flag - "the Stars and Stripes". There were 13 founding states of America, and for those people who are tempted to say this is merely a coincidence; a man once said, wisely, that coincidence is only God (in Whom we trust) working anonymously.

On the American Presidential Seal above the Eagle's head there are 13 stars (Genesis 15:5; 22:17; 26:4 and 50 on the flag) and above them 13 spheres of cloud.

As the Danites have intermingled with Joseph/Manasseh (E PLURIBUS UNUM - "out of many: one") and the Danites were the judges in ancient Israel, who are no longer to be needed in the New Age because Christ is to be the only Judge in His Kingdom on Earth; soon; that is one of the reasons why there is no reference to the Israelite tribe of Dan in the Book of Revelation/Apocalypse in chapter 7, which lists the tribes that enter the New Jerusalem - the City that comes down out of the sky in chapter 21:2, 10. - JAH.

[tinmenace]

IAAIA, are you seeing this? Wow Lottie! IAAIA and I were discussing the eagle and which god it represents because I'm certain it's not just an eagle, representing freedom blah blah...and here you come with a wealth of knowledge.

This is truly amazing. Thank you so much for posting this. Hugs! :)

[lottie]

you are welcome lovely, im getting there, i like to contribute constructively to the threads but often dont have the time to research but i seem to be on a roll thismorning!!! :D

[limelady]

IAAIA asks....

Ophiuchus is the 13th astrological star sign, so I can undesrtand the hidden meaning behind the 13. Does this then mean that the 11 stars represents the 11th star sign Aquarius ???

and....

What is the connection between Saturn and Uranus that are associated with Aquarius ???

And what does the "GATEWAY TO FREEDOM" represent ???

Could it all be representational of how to navigate through the constellations via gateways or stargates ???

The symbology raises a lot of questions and there are so many interconnected parts that it can be diffcult to sort out.....good old astrotheology huh.

I know I said that I didn't think there was an association....well I couldn't see one before now, but I am wondering now if there could be a connection between this Aquarius/13 star sign thing and the 3-waves symbolism we've been seeing in lots of logos etc?......I made a post about it here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42078&postcount=54

[tinmenace]

Thank you, Lime. :)

[tinmenace]

cheers Tin :) well hows this for starters then... we were talking about the 13 stars etc on the coins and as i was looking for the american coat of arms for lumukandas thread i found and explanaition about all the 13's and a bit about olive branches too...i know we are looking at coins and this relates to the coat of arms but i dont think it should be ignored ...see what you think...

The Viking explorers of America, like Bjarni Herjulfon, Eric the Red and his son Leif Ericsson who landed in America long before Christopher Columbus, were Danes (Dan-ish), descended from their Israelite father Dan (Genesis 30:6). The American founding Pilgrim-fathers and the Anglo-Saxon American people are descended from Jacob/Israel's favourite son Joseph, of the Coat of many "Colours" fame; the Irish-Americans are also, like the Vikings, descended from Joseph's older brother Dan and are known in Irish history as the Tuatha de Danaan.

The Eagle on the American Coat-of-Arms; which is very different from the heraldic-eagles (which are often two-headed) used by other nations; is the Emblem of Dan, from whom the Danes and Irish are descended and who have intermingled in America with their Anglo-Saxon brothers from the tribe of Joseph/Manasseh, whose Olive-branch and Arrows the Eagle holds firmly and safely in its claws.

The Israelite tribe of Joseph of the Coat of many Colours/Coats-of-Arms* is, in fact, divided into two:- Ephraim and Manasseh. Joseph had two sons called Ephraim and Manasseh who, today, are the English and Anglo-Saxon Americans respectively.

Abraham, Joseph's great grandad, was told by God that, "in Isaac shall your seed be called" (Genesis 21 v 12). Isaac's sons - Saac's sons - Saxons. The English and the Anglo-Americans are Engel-o'-Saxons. God's Word is ever TRUE.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) split off from their brothers Ephraim/the English and they lost a colony (Isaiah 49 v 20 - in 1776) and Ephraim's descendants then went East; North and South, in exactly the order Prophesied by God in Genesis 28:14.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) like Joseph/Ephraim also spread forth taking the Bible around the world and became a great people (Genesis 49 v 19) whilst Joseph/Ephraim (the English) became a multitude/Commonwealth of Nations and God made their name GREAT (Genesis 12 v 2) - Great Britain.

The Olive from which the "oil" (of Understanding) comes was Jacob/Israel's Emblem (see Paul's letter to the Romans 11 v 24-25) which he gave, along with his name Israel, to Joseph's two sons - Ephraim and Manasseh [not to Judah/Jew-dah - the Jews or any of Joseph's ten other Hebrew brothers] (Genesis 48 v 16).

Joseph and the white horseman of the Apocalypse/Revelation were both to have a BOW. The bowmen of England are the most famous in the history of the world and with God's help were not defeated (Genesis 49 v 24). Note well also, in the Authorized Version of the Bible, where "the Shepherd" will come from - Joseph NOT Judah. NOT from the Jews, as has been wrongly believed for 2,000 years.

The Coat-of-Arms of Joseph's Sheaf-field (Sheffield - Genesis 37:7); in Engel-land (the Engel is the Wild-ox or Unicorn shown on the British Coat-of-Arms); has on it ARROWS. The Unicorn-Emblem belongs equally to, and is the primary-emblem of, Manasseh (the Engel-o'-Saxon Americans) as much as it does to their brothers the Engel-ish; their secondary-emblems being the Olive and the Arrows.

Now look at the American Eagle on the Official Emblem of the United States of America and you will see that in its left-claws it holds ARROWS, 13 of them. Britannia, in the full picture, sits under an OLIVE tree and in the normal picture of her she holds an OLIVE-branch in her hand. The American Eagle has in its right-claws an OLIVE branch, with 13 olives and 13 leaves on it. Israel, in Scripture, is referred to (metaphorically) as God's Wife and therefore, accordingly, Britannia is a WOMAN not a man, as one would expect a soldier-emblem to be.

Joseph/Manasseh; which was one half-tribe of Joseph; was known as the 13th tribe of Israel. If we look at American Symbols we will see 13 over and over again. There are 13 stripes on the shield and on the national flag - "the Stars and Stripes". There were 13 founding states of America, and for those people who are tempted to say this is merely a coincidence; a man once said, wisely, that coincidence is only God (in Whom we trust) working anonymously.

On the American Presidential Seal above the Eagle's head there are 13 stars (Genesis 15:5; 22:17; 26:4 and 50 on the flag) and above them 13 spheres of cloud.

As the Danites have intermingled with Joseph/Manasseh (E PLURIBUS UNUM - "out of many: one") and the Danites were the judges in ancient Israel, who are no longer to be needed in the New Age because Christ is to be the only Judge in His Kingdom on Earth; soon; that is one of the reasons why there is no reference to the Israelite tribe of Dan in the Book of Revelation/Apocalypse in chapter 7, which lists the tribes that enter the New Jerusalem - the City that comes down out of the sky in chapter 21:2, 10. - JAH.



Interestingly this coin:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/walking%20liberty.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ameagle.jpg

...is known as the American Silver Eagle.


Read more (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Silver_Eagle)

[tinmenace]

This is the American Gold Eagle:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/gold%20eagle.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/goldeagle.jpg

American Gold Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[i am all i am]

you are welcome lovely, im getting there, i like to contribute constructively to the threads but often dont have the time to research but i seem to be on a roll thismorning!!! :D

Awesome stuff Lottie.

I found this when researching the 13th Astrological Star Sign thread and got some great connections from it...

http://www.lewisdt.com/gtseal.jpg

http://www.lewisdt.com/plant.jpg

The dexter talon holds not an olive branch, as is traditionally stated, but a cluster of cannabis leaves with buds visible.The marijuana symbolism on the great seal is confirmed by the use of the colors red and white in colored versions, and on the flag of the United States. Red and white were first used as official colors by the followers of Hassan i Sabbah founder of the Hashishim or The Assassins. By 1094 these elite troops, wearing the white tunics and red sashes characteristic of their sect, had made Hasan the most powerful warlord in the area now called the Middle East. They imported hemp from India and extracted a narcotic which is today named, hash for their sect. They used hash to reach "illumination." More will be said about “illumination” when the reverse of the Great Seal is discussed. The thirteen horizontal red and white stripes have been associated with the drug trade, at least since they were used by the British East India Company on their ships carrying narcotics. The number thirteen is also the traditional code for marijuana. The code for marijuana is shown in the shield placed upon the eagle’s chest. The shield bears the thirteen stripes of the British East India Companies flag (later the flag of the United States) turned vertically.

http://www.lewisdt.com/eye.html

There are a couple of other things that connected for me in your post and I will get back to you with what it was and make a post with the information.



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I know I said that I didn't think there was an association....well I couldn't see one before now, but I am wondering now if there could be a connection between this Aquarius/13 star sign thing and the 3-waves symbolism we've been seeing in lots of logos etc?......I made a post about it here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42078&postcount=54

G'day Limelady.

I've found so many connections researching the 13th Astrological Star Sign thread with everything it's amazing. I definitely believe that there is a link with this 3-wave symbol.

Logos - the word - God - the trinity - 3-waves.

I've got 35 pages of information scattered all over a woed document and I'll get it all sorted and over the next few days and post it all on the relevant threads.

Sign.............Tree........................Month ..........................Symbol

Nion..............Ash...........February 18 - March 17...............The trident


The Ash Tree
Nion

The Ash tree symbolizes the power of the sea, depicted in this illustration by the sea god Lir, one of the ruling divinities in Celtic legend. Lir was a powerful deity who represented the mystical fusion of man and God through the medium or element of water. In Celtic myth the Ash was sacred to Gwydion as a tree of enchantment, from whose twigs he made his wands. A Druidical wand, made from ash, with a spiral decoration was unearthed in Anglesey during an archaeological find. The wand dated from the early first century.
Ruling Deity – Gwydion, the Magician, storyteller and trickster.
Planetary Ruler – Neptune.

The planetary rulewr is Neptune and Neptune is the Roman God of the sea. As with the above symbol, Neptune is pictured with a trident. Neptunes largest moon is called Triton. TRI = 3, 3-waves, water...mmmmm.

Anyway, more later...



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http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4497/austriancoinswa9.jpg

No goddess on this Austrian 8 Florin/20 Francs, dating from 1892,
but I thought it was interesting anyway.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5782/austriagoldal8.jpg

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http://www.globalfailure.com/images/athenaaustria.jpg

And the goddess is ... *drum roll* ... Athena! She is holding the goddess Nike in her hand instead of her usual pet owl. This is the Austrian Parliament Building in Vienna, and the sculpture is known as the "Pallas-Athene-Fountain" Athena Fountain. - Read More. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_Parliament_Building#Pallas-Athene-Fountain)

A very similar display to the Athena statue at the Acropolis (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495&page=6)


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/athenastatue.jpg




The winged goddess in the background (to the right) looks like Nike. She is often shown riding a chariot.


Thanks for the excellent find, Lime. :)

[limelady]

Tin said....
Thanks for the excellent find, Lime.

No worries Tin! I've never looked into coins before and I'm finding it
fascinating! :D

Here are a few more.....some of the many ancient coins depicting the various and many goddesses and gods of old Roman trimes.

The Goddess Vesta Rome, 164-166 CE
The goddess Vesta is shown standing beside an altar with a burning flame. She holds in her right hand a simpulum (a long-handled ladle used by a pontifex (a type of priest) for pouring wine at sacrifices. On her left shoulder she holds the Palladium, the city- protecting wooden statue of Athena that Aeneas (pre-Vergil) brought from Troy to Rome and deposited in the Temple of Vesta.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9801/goddessvestacoincp5.jpg

The Empress/Goddess Pudicitia - the female virtue of modesty 207-209 CEThe goddess is seated; her left hand holds a scepter, and her right hand modestly covers her breast.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2966/goddesspudicitiazk9.jpg

A Seated Goddess (?) October, 68 CE
A seated goddess holding an olive branch in her right hand and a scepter in her left.The pose is very similar to coins depicting Livia as Pax.
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8431/goddesspaxev7.jpg

Goddess Juno 161-175 CE (Mint of Rome)The empress, Faustina the Younger, is portrayed as the goddess Juno Regina, part of the Capitoline triad of deities; she holds a patera and scepter, and a peacock stands at her feet.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5025/goddessjunokq3.jpg

Goddess Cebele issued by Marcus Aurelius, 161-76 CEDepicts the Goddess Cybele with the inscription MATRI MAGNAE ("for the Great Mother"). Cybele is seated on a throne flanked by lions; she wears a mural crown and holds a tympanum (a kind of drum used in her worship).
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3074/goddesscybelemy5.jpg


Many more ancient coin images and explanations here
http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/indexcoins2.html

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Goddess Juno 161-175 CE (Mint of Rome)The empress, Faustina the Younger, is portrayed as the goddess Juno Regina, part of the Capitoline triad of deities; she holds a patera and scepter, and a peacock stands at her feet.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5025/goddessjunokq3.jpg


Argus Panoptes (Argos) was a 100-eyed monster, a good 'watchdog' because not all the eyes were asleep at the same time. His epithet means all-seeing. [1]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/argusgr.jpg

Once when Zeus was consorting with the Nymph Io, Hera (aka JUNO) suddenly came upon them. The god quickly transformed his lover into a white heifer. The goddess was not deceived and craftily demanded the animal from her husband as a gift. She then appointed Argos Panoptes to guard the heifer.
Zeus sent Hermes to rescue his lover. The god first tried to lull the giant to sleep with his music, but failing that, despatched him with his sword. It was from this endeavour that he earned the title Argeiphontes (the slayer of Argos).
Hera nevertheless rewarded Argos for his service by placing his hundred eyes on the tail of the peacock, her sacred bird. [2]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/peocock%20feathers.jpg

Argus Panoptes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Source 2 (http://www.theoi.com/Gigante/GiganteArgosPanoptes.html)

[limelady]

Wow, great going tin!!! I remember somebody telling me onces that peacock feathers should never be brought into the home because the "eyes" on the feathers would ensure bad luck!

Now I know where that probably stems from!

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http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/0200_0299/latekushancoins/vasudeva2coin2.jpg

A coin by Vasudeva II (r. c.290-310) that honors the Central Asian goddess Ardoxho

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http://www.geocities.com/astrologyhouses/images/abundantia.jpg

Abundantia, the Goddess of Plenty. [From a Roman denarius of Elagabalus, 218 - 222 AD.] Her symbol was the cornucopia, from which came money and food. She is shown holding this on the coin above. In earlier times her role was taken by the Goddess Fortuna.

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1785 IMMUNE COLUMBIA / NOVA CONSTELLATIO

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Immune_Columbia_Gold_Obverse.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/Immune_Columbia_Gold_Reverse.jpg


The obverse of the pattern coins display rays emanating from an Eye of Providence (as it was known by contemporaries) surrounded by a circular constellation of thirteen stars, as had been used on the $40 Continental Currency bills from the emission of April 11, 1778. The legend on the patterns was in Latin, NOVA CONSTELLATIO (A New Constellation). The reverse of each pattern display a wreath around the initials U.S. with the denomination below, outside the wreath is the legend, LIBERTAS JUSTITIA (Liberty Justice) and the date 1783. For additional details see the section on the NOVA CONSTELLATIO patterns of 1783. The design found on these patterns was the model for the private copper issues bearing the dates 1783, 1785 and a very rare variety dated 1786.

Source (http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/Cons-Nova.intro.html)

I've wanted to start a "VENUS COLUMBA" thread for the longest time and continue to gather material for it. Just a little tidbit that I found this morning - Jeb Bush's wife's name is Columba. Very interesting...

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http://www.biblelight.net/gregoryxiii-dragon-medal-1582.jpg
The above papal medal of Pope Gregory XIII, designed by L Parm, is dated 1582, marking the year of the Gregorian calendar reform. On the reverse of the medal is a winged dragon / serpent encircling a ram's head. As previously mentioned, the dragon is the biblical symbol of Satan (Rev 12:9). The serpent that is chasing or devouring its tail is called Ouroboros, Uroboros, or Oureboros. The ram's head is also a satanic symbol, and is frequently associated with the Egyptian deities, such as the god Amon (Amoun, Ammun, Ammon), the king of all gods, who was also regarded as the sun god, and Khnum, who created mankind on his potter's wheel from the mud of the Nile.

The intended symbolic meaning, however, is undoubtedly that of Aries the Ram, the first sign of the Zodiac, which symbolizes the Vernal / Spring Equinox, and Draco / Drako (or Ouroboros) the serpent depicting a cyclical returning. Pope Gregory XIII had modified the calendar specifically so that the Vernal Equinox would remain relatively constant, on or about March 21st, which is the beginning of the Zodiacal year, when the Sun crosses the Equator and enters the astrological sign of Aries. This had the desired result of returning Easter to the time specified by the Nicene Council (325 A.D.).

http://www.geocities.com/jesuselcristos/hoaxology_09.html

I absolutely love finding these gems of information !!!

Check out the link, there's some other stuff that is awesome.




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Brilliant post, IAAIA. Thanks!

You know, I don't understand why the "faithful" aren't questioning the obvious 'god' and 'goddess' worship on this sort of stuff. The frickin' POPE, for Christ's sake!

Pope Gregory, no less. The prick that helped enforce an unnatural cycle on us with the Gregorian Calendar, thereby suppressing our natural lunar cycle.

Unreal!

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Brilliant post, IAAIA. Thanks!

You know, I don't understand why the "faithful" aren't questioning the obvious 'god' and 'goddess' worship on this sort of stuff. The frickin' POPE, for Christ's sake!

Pope Gregory, no less. The prick that helped enforce an unnatural cycle on us with the Gregorian Calendar, thereby suppressing our natural lunar cycle.

Unreal!

Yeah, the links on the 'Thirteenth Astrological Star Sign' thread about the Serpens constellation and the Goddess worship speaks volumes.

Personally, I believe that "faith" blinds people, that's why the saying is "blind faith". It's belief that allows you to see, and as they don't believe that there is something 'fishy' (hehehe..the Jesus fish), they filter out the information that would awaken them to the obvious knowledge.



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You mean the The Thirteenth Astrological Star Sign? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4101)


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I BELIEVE that that is the one !!!


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You missed the snake next to her shield.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/athenastatue.jpg
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[tinmenace]

You missed the snake next to her shield.



Hi there, No, I didn't miss it. I talk about it more on this thread. Click Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32047&postcount=34)

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Coins from the United Kingdom


What is this at the feet of the horse?

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1998fivepoundgoldproofrev240.jpg




I think I found the answer on Lumukanda's Coat of Arms thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4381). Consider this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Coat_of_Arms_of_Moscow.png/505px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Moscow.png

good old st george, the moscow coat of arms.


A dragon? I think it is...

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Hi all,

This is an article that I wrote today, and which I have sent to David Icke:


A couple of years ago, I was standing in the food queue in a well-known British department store when I pulled out of my pocket the new two pound coin that had recently been issued.

As I looked at the reverse of the coin, I realised that it clearly depicted the symbol of Freemasonry, a compass and square, superimposed over a picture of St Paul’s Cathedral in London. (Note that in Masonic symbolism, the square can appear in front of or behind the compass).

This image shows the reverse of the £2 coin in its special "collectable" edition:

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/2005twopoundsaintpaulscathedralgoldproofrev240.jpg


This image shows a representation of the compass and square symbol of Freemasonry:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/MasonicCompass.jpg


Later that day, I showed the coin to a relative of mine who was much less aware of the Illuminati agenda. When I asked her to tell me what she saw, she too was able to identify the Freemasonry symbol.

After carrying out some research, I discovered that the coin was a special issue, supposedly to commemorate the sixtieth anniversary of the end of World War II in 1945. The reverse says 1945-2005, with the edge of the coin carrying the inscription ‘In Victory Magnanimity In Peace Goodwill’ and has been taken from the well known saying that prefaces Winston Churchill’s book ‘History of the Second World War’.

So how did the symbol of Freemasonry end up on there? The fact that Winston Churchill and Sir Christopher Wren, the architect of St Paul’s Cathedral – itself an exemplar of Masonic symbolism - were both high-ranking Freemasons, with Wren himself being a Grandmaster Mason, should give pause to anyone wishing to assert that the appearance of Masonic symbols on items such as coins is merely down to “coincidence”.

Engraver Robert Elderton, who designed the reverse of the coin, has said, not altogether convincingly, that it “more or less designed itself when I came across images of St Paul’s, lit up with search beams in the shape of a ‘V’ for Victory on VE and VJ Day.”

As David Icke would say, “just a coincidence, nothing to worry about”.

There are many people who believe such gestures to be genuine attempts by Establishment figures to commemorate the sacrifices of all those who laboured throughout the Second World War; not to mention the millions of human lives lost in such global conflicts.

But as the work of many researchers, including David Icke, shows, behind the veneer of Establishment ‘respectability’ and apparent unconnectedness lies a complex network of secret societies clandestinely manipulating global events to their own ends. The Second World War was not a historical inevitability or the product of chance, but a manufactured conflict orchestrated by the same Establishment dynasties and elite secret society networks which hold sway today. As a result, this coin represents yet another sick tribute to the deception of those who continue to manipulate our world into the present.




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