What is so-called "Spiritual Awakening"?

[december]

David Icke writes about it... you talk about it here as well...

Some people like to finish their posts with words like Love and Peace... and they use beautiful pictures for their avatars such as this one with Chakras -

http://www.enlightenedbeings.com/pix/chakraman.jpg

OK...
It looks cool.

:)

But what IS actually Spiritual Awakening? Who can explain?...

[king]

you will know when if hits you
no one can explain that to you


you have to experience it

[december]

you will know when if hits you
no one can explain that to you


you have to experience it

In other words - you just don't know...
Thank you for trying though...

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Woman With Grapes

[jimijams]

Hi December, I can only speak for myself here as the process is different for everybody.

A spiritual awakening is an awareness to the fact that you are not your thoughts and you are not the constructed sense of who you believed you were, but part of something much greater, or as David Icke puts it, breaking the imposed eggshell of our created reality and this can happen gradually or suddenly.

An awakening itself doesn't necessarily mean you have suddenly become enlightened, but it is the beginning of a path to further awareness of our true nature and being.

[john white]

In other words - you just don't know...
Thank you for trying though...

No: King is saying it has to be experianced

Words dont express it becuase the meaning between the words has to come directly from the contact that is made

To awaken, one must seek to be awakened: and just becuase one awakens does not mean one cannot awaken much much more: and the most total awakening is awakening to source

Do you seek to be awakened December?

[jimijams]

Here is an article I posted on the forum a while back on spiritual awakening that describes the process much better than I ever could.. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1054

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[december]

Some people... ...use beautiful pictures

It looks cool.

:)

Woman With Grapes

Ambrosia

Ambrosia' - light orange; broad upright; uncommon colour

:)



...but part of something much greater

Hello, jimijams.
I did read Icke books...

But what does it mean to be a "part of something much greater"?

[jimijams]

:)





Hello, jimijams.
I did read Icke books...

But what does it mean to be a "part of something much greater"?
It is breaking the illusion of separation, that we are not separate from our environment, I am not separate from you.

[akujin]

Before, I cared a lot. I was attached and motivated. Full of blind emotional content, the good and the bad. Wanting to contribute to pointless, idealistic views.

Since, ive seen that view change. In everything ive seen and researched, nothing makes more sense then nothing itself. With nothing we can experience everything. And with nothing, you'll always be content.

To be frank, we all were never left out. We all are part of the sum. Noone spiritually is alone.

[tru3]

Hi December, I can only speak for myself here as the process is different for everybody.

A spiritual awakening is an awareness to the fact that you are not your thoughts and you are not the constructed sense of who you believed you were, but part of something much greater, or as David Icke puts it, breaking the imposed eggshell of our created reality and this can happen gradually or suddenly.

An awakening itself doesn't necessarily mean you have suddenly become enlightened, but it is the beginning of a path to further awareness of our true nature and being.


that's a really great way to put it. the Self exists. Consciousness unfolds, before and as the Self, true Reality is revealed as illusions of mis-identification are cast off. the fact that you put the question 'out there', december, is a very good indication you're off and running on your path. as for me, the path is the goal. enough instants of being in the present moment creates a lifetime of wonder, laughter, tears, and peace.

[december]

It is breaking the illusion of separation, that we are not separate from our environment, I am not separate from you.

What do you mean by the "illusion of separation", jimijams? Can you explain that?
All people are very different as you know....

[king]

In other words - you just don't know...
Thank you for trying though...


that is bit presumptuous of you, don't you think?

[december]

that is bit presumptuous of you, don't you think?

I don't think so. I asked a question which you couldn't answer.
If you cannot explain something than it means that you just don't understand it.

[auron]

A spiritual awakening is something that cannot be described with mere words. As it has been said, you have to experience it for yourself to truly know. It is similar to trying to explain to a blind person what sight is. It cannot be done.

[andreadoria]

well December, there isn't so much to understand... somebody can try to explain it, but it's something that is not easy to describe in simple terms using our tiny tiny limited vocabulary. I can only face it to understand it, and every awakening experience is very different from each one of us. My path is different from the yours. Actually, the awakening is something that you don't need to ask to know what it is. If you're into an awakening process, then you would know it without asking. It's something that it's feels, not to read it on a computer monitor. Your consciousness actually already knows it... so ask to yourself what it is... and leave open a channel for your consciousness to talk to you. Seriously, it's a very personal path...

[da renn]

"Awakening" is to become AWARE of lots of different things, and EVERYTHING.
In Awakening we become aware of Spiritual Guidance in our personal lives, which guidance is happening, like, ALL of the "time!" For ALL time is Spiritual time- it is all "Gods" time. Since we are obviously Spiritual Life and Light, we are- thusly- timeless Beings. God/dess is guiding us ALL of our time down here!
We are Truly Awakening when we are OPEN and TRUSTING of our Inner guidance, noticing the darkness all around and seeing what we can do about it. AND only when we are SINCERE and Passionate about our wanting to KNOW the TRUTH, above ALL else, will it rightly dawn in y/our Hearts and Minds.
Fortunately, there are enough people in the world being and doing just that!
But that's NO excuse to become complacent! YOU, WE ALL are a vital part of this Awakening, by the very fact that you are- and i am- Here & Now, very much ALIVE!
Do what you FEEL you can, and try to do more! For you'll be much happier then, in the "end," and in the "New" Beginning!

[infinitetruth]

For me spiritual awakening was when I stopped struggling emotionally within myself. Before I would know there was something wrong but I couldn't put my finger on it - I struggled with my beliefs and religion - I went through depression thinking there was something wrong with me, that I was out of place, that I didn't belong in this world and that the world had to much hatred and deceit and death and pain for me to take. And even though I took solace in the fact that I was part of something whole, I just never got it.

Now I have woken up to the truth, that our media is controlled and our governments are corrupt - I realise that the struggles I faced within myself were born of me not knowing the whole story. Now I feel I know not the whole story, but a lot more of it. I realise that I am part of something bigger, and I really DO get it now.

Spiritually I am free, because I no longer have to conform to religions that don't make sense to me. It is ok for me, and others to believe what they feel is right. I am intelligent, because I say so - not because of what a piece of paper says. I can think logically about a situation and not be swayed by popular opinion or the phrase 'scientifically proven'. It is easier for me to recognise the the lies and seek the truth.

I can't really explain it but I believe the media is a type of mindcontrol and when you break free from it you begin to connect with yourself again and your own inner feelings and beliefs. A buddha once said that you have to keep peeling parts of yourself away over and over until only one piece is left and that piece is the truth. I have done this many times in moments of solace when I was confused about a situation, I would think and think and think, and remove all thoughts which didn't add up, until I came to the truth. I don't think you can do this with the TV or the Radio spouting its garbage all day long.

We keep looking outside for answers, I think part of a spiritual awakening is when you find those answers within yourself. And you don't just have one spiritual awakening, I believe you have many, each time you grow wiser and more connected to your true self - that which you are meant to be, not the mask we wear in society.

[da renn]

"We keep looking outside for answers, I think part of a spiritual awakening is when you find those answers within yourself. And you don't just have one spiritual awakening, I believe you have many, each time you grow wiser and more connected to your true self - that which you are meant to be, not the mask we wear in society."

That's right, dude! Keep on keepin' on!
We get there in the "end," always HERE in the "beginning!"
What we need is TRUE PASSION- in "between!"

[legaata]

Personally, I would say awakening is when one comes in contact with his soul or spirit, thereby attaining knowledge about who he is, and/or other knowledge possessed by the soul. Sometimes an awakening may come when we notice a pattern in the reality, that corresponds to what we know in our soul. An awakening may also come, when we, thinking upon our life, dare to admit to ourselfes all the pain and sorrow that not being one self and not listening to one's higher self has caused.

[december]

As it has been said, you have to experience it for yourself to truly know.

And what exactly are you experiencing?
I did read your posts and it seems to me that you are on drugs or smoking something...
Here's one example:


I'll be on a hill with these:

http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/mushroom-use.jpg

And smoking one of these:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5008/jointun9.gif

Source -

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4078

[auron]

And your point is?

[december]

Before, I cared a lot. I was attached and motivated. Full of blind emotional content, the good and the bad. Wanting to contribute to pointless, idealistic views.

Since, ive seen that view change. In everything ive seen and researched, nothing makes more sense then nothing itself. With nothing we can experience everything. And with nothing, you'll always be content.

To be frank, we all were never left out. We all are part of the sum. Noone spiritually is alone.

Hello, akujin.

Well, I don't really see the answer to my question in your post, but I think you are telling me that before you have been attached to a "blind emotional content", and this "blind emotional content" led you to... NOTHING?

And if this is the case than let me ask you - how "with nothing we can experience everything"? :rolleyes:

[december]

And your point is?

auron, the point is in my post. Please, read it one more time, it's not that big...

[december]

Personally, I would say awakening is when one comes in contact with his soul or spirit...

Hello, legaata.
Well, it's interesting... But how would I do that?
Can you tell me how can I come in contact with my soul or spirit, please?

What do I need to do? :)



...thereby attaining knowledge about who he is, and/or other knowledge possessed by the soul.

I didn't know that a soul (or spirit) contains knowledge...
How did you learn about it?

:)

[auron]

And what exactly are you experiencing?



Infinite love!

Have you experienced infinite love?

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/7622/love3blowingkissji2.gif

[edit]

... tell me how can I come in contact with my soul or spirit, please?

What do I need to do? :)
.
.
I didn't know that a soul (or spirit) contains knowledge...


Well..... Maybe it could help to vibrate... sing along... like ...echoing ...that little sumthing, i think... ;)
'cos ...this dust is EVERYWHERE!
....Its (in) the whole universe ....:cool:

As ...Echoing... All ....Is ( like in this link below) \\// ---> Tele-Graph

The Da Vinci chapel echoes to sound of Saturn
By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:14am BST 29/05/2007
See >

. Video: Making the Rosslyn chapel stonework sing (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/29/nchapel29.xml)
.[B]Video: Does the singing stonework theory work? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/29/nchapel29.xml)

As if there were not enough mysteries involving the medieval chapel that featured in The Da Vinci Code, the plot thickened further yesterday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/05/29/nchapel29.jpg
Rosslyn Chapel has been suggested as the resting
----------- place of the Holy Grail


Rosslyn Chapel has, at one time or another, been suggested as the resting place of the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant and even the mummified head of Christ.

Now cosmology has been added to this rich brew after the ornate symbols on its walls were likened to giant cloud formations photographed on Saturn.

The link was made by Stuart Mitchell, 41, a composer, who with his father Thomas, 75, a former RAF codebreaker, deciphered a musical score they believe was hidden in the 13 angel musicians and 213 cube-like shapes carved on the chapel arches.

After 27 years of research they cracked their code and, at the weekend, they staged the first public performance of the medieval music they found hidden in the carvings.


The piece, known as the Rosslyn Motet, is based on the deciphering of cube and hexagon-shaped symbols using an ancient musical system called cymatics, in which patterns are formed by sound waves at specific pitches.

The shapes appear when a note is used to vibrate a sheet of metal, or a sheet of glass covered in powder. Different frequencies produce patterns such as flowers, diamonds and hexagons. The hexagon features prominently in the chapel carvings.

Mr Mitchell and his father believe the tune was encrypted in the 15th century chapel outside Edinburgh because knowledge of music may have been considered heretical at the time.

Earlier this week, Mr Mitchell was preparing for the first performance when a Mexican astronomer telephoned him and told about the same hexagonal shape on Saturn.

The coincidence suggests a universal significance for the musical score, according to Mr Mitchell, even if the hexagon above Saturn is 15,000 miles across while the carvings are measured in inches.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/05/29/nchapel29b.jpg
The mysterious cube symbols on the 15th century walls [left]
and the 15,000 mile hexagon photographed above Saturn


In musical terms, both shapes represent a B natural, suggesting to some that the planets may have their own musical score to be cracked.

"The shape matches right down to the detail," said Mr Mitchell. "The shape represents the B natural pattern in our code, and that is the first note of the Rosslyn Motet.

"Now we are starting to see that these symbols that everybody found so magical and unique are around us in a vast way. What we are seeing on our plane of existence we can now also see on a cosmic scale. It is one of the most amazing developments in this story.

"If the geometric figure in Rosslyn Chapel is produced by the same principles as is happening on Saturn - vibration and sound - then Saturn is literally singing a piece of music to us."

Mr Mitchell said that the shape on Saturn was like a humpback whale singing in the darkness of space. He added: "I find it propitious that the sudden interest in the Saturn Hex phenomenon should be at a time when my father and I have realised a composition we believe was 'set in stone' using this same science."

The hexagon above Saturn was detected 26 years ago, but was captured in its complete form for the first time earlier this year by Nasa's Cassini Orbiter. A spokesman at the space agency said at the time that it was a "very strange feature".

Since it featured in The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown, visitor numbers at the chapel have rocketed. Stargazers may now be about to join those throngs of religious conspiracy theorists.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/29/nchapel29.xml)

If you please, you may hear see also Sai
as... well.... as.....
Carbon's Outer Shell - Scale: 10^-10 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2487&highlight=Satya+Baba&page=22)

btw... the GLP staff some times can really irritate, nove ...uuuuuuuuuh

[llogun]

The truth plain and simple. You are made of atoms, atoms are empty your brain decodes the atoms because the brain is a computer for the soul to feel this virbration. This 3D virbration is a dream how can it be real there is nothing there its empty
Sweet dreams

[auron]

The truth plain and simple. You are made of atoms, atoms are empty your brain decodes the atoms because the brain is a computer for the soul to feel this virbration. This 3D virbration is a dream how can it be real there is nothing there its empty
Sweet dreams

Something like that, yeah. :)

[the festival spirit]

Ok here we go, December, you are not on a spiritual awakening!

You are so crying out for it though, but your none seperation of everything is blocking it!
an example:
What do you mean by the "illusion of separation", jimijams? Can you explain that?
All people are very different as you know....

When you say all people are very different as you know, what you ACTUALLY mean, is this, I am crying out for a spiritual awakening and I have read Davids books and its not fair because I am not unique enough to seperate myself from the illusion of seperateness, you are a seperatist by nature, and until you are aware of anything seperate from your unawareness you will always be seperate, as opposed to, the people who have had a spiritual awakening, who have become aware of and realised that they are completely seperate from seperateness.

There is no room for seperation in my list in my signature, but if you make room for my list in your life, you will become aware, or, if the truth can be told so as to be understood it will be believed, but there are many questions you must ask AND you must be prepared to let the answers IN. You are not aware of the wisdom of the words you read, so you seperate yourself from them by adding lots of different words from the ones you actually want, you could use my list to help you along, now if you can understand this, and accept it, then you are on the way to realising it, carry on questioning but let the answers in.

you could start off by accepting what you are shown. we will all generally try to help you, but as you are not accepting, we are trying to help you become aware. please ask away, but on the unconditional condition of accepting. If you block the answers you block the awakening.

does that help?

Infinite truth said it very well indeed.

[i_am]

We keep looking outside for answers, I think part of a spiritual awakening is when you find those answers within yourself. And you don't just have one spiritual awakening, I believe you have many, each time you grow wiser and more connected to your true self - that which you are meant to be, not the mask we wear in society.

It really is the hardest thing to explain to someone, isn't it?

I just love those AHA!! moments, those times when all makes sense and yet no sense at all by 'normal' standards. These are times when you just walk around with a silly grin and feel one with all. Everyone else thinks you have gone nuts, but who cares?

You can see all of the shit happening in the world but from a detached point of view. You are willing to stand up and be counted in the face of ridicule, anger, opposition and fear. You feel overwhelming compassion for those less fortunate. You comprehend what is meant by peacing for peace as opposed to fighting for peace and you realise that everyone is on their own journey.

You remove your head, stop thinking, stop trying to rationalise things and start to feel from the core of your being. You operate from an entirely different perspective. You step out of the '5 sense reality', not as a conscious choice because that no longer serves you but because that is just the way it is now. Your reality comes from within. It is knowing!

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The truth plain and simple. You are made of atoms, atoms are empty your brain decodes the atoms because the brain is a computer for the soul to feel this virbration. This 3D virbration is a dream how can it be real there is nothing there its empty
Sweet dreams
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/images/040924electric-universe.jpg
thunderbolts.info (http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/arch/040924electric-universe.htm)
In the electric universe the systems of planets and moons, stars, and galaxies have their origin in this proven ability of electricity to generate structure and rotation in plasma. Within particular regions of aggregating mass, gravity can take over only as the electric forces approach equilibrium. The electric universe hypothesis is rooted in direct observation. The extraordinary configurations now seen in space are the result of charge differential, where gravity cannot compete with the electric forces.

Such structures as NGC 6751 are telling us it is no longer tenable to build a cosmology on the idea that neutral matter is the "starting point". All variations on that theme will require gravitationally-driven generators to "separate charge". But it is not logical to ask the weak force of gravity to produce the strong force of electricity from which galactic-scale gravity defying motions arise. Direct observation implies that electrified--not neutral--matter, is the fundamental or original state of the universe.

To be sure, the human perspective is limited, and the origin of the universal electric potential will likely remain as elusive to the cosmic electricians as the origin of matter is to orthodox cosmologists.

In both cases, for now at least,
the theorists must be satisfied with
the proclamation,

"It just is!".

[jimijams]

What do you mean by the "illusion of separation", jimijams? Can you explain that?
All people are very different as you know....
You are unable to exist independently, although you may believe you do. Your definition of yourself is dependent upon others who have a counter view to yours, without this you are nothing. I can only think of myself as spiritual by comparing myself to somebody that is not spiritual, this defines me. You are only able to identify yourself as a Russian by comparing yourself to an American.
Without the Americans your identity as a Russian is meaningless. I need you to define me just as you need me to define you, we are a part of one process.

I hope this helps.

[legaata]

Hello, legaata.
Well, it's interesting... But how would I do that?
Can you tell me how can I come in contact with my soul or spirit, please?

[b]I didn't know that a soul (or spirit) contains knowledge...
How did you learn about it?

I know that the soul contains knowledge, simply because people have been able to leave their bodies when it has been seriously injured, and then return to it again, speaking of a traveling through a light. If the soul could not possess/ store knowledge, they would not be able to remember this once the soul returned to the body, right?

Most of the time, spiritual awakening comes automatically, it is not pushed through. However, I would guess (but I'm not sure), that the probability of an awakening incrieses if you use your intuition through creative hobbies, such as singing, painting, dancing, sculpturing, building with lego, philosophing over interesting matters, taking walks in nature and so on.

Sometimes, we act in a way opposite to what we feel like acting, although we know it. To prevent this, you may try to in every situation ask yourself this question: What do I deeply in my heart feel that I want to do/say in this specific situation? Ask yourself that in every situation where you're uncertain how to act. When we feel like saying or doing something in (mostly social) situations, it will appear as an image in our heads, resembling ourselfes saying/doing that particular thing. Therefore, when you get such an image in your head of something you want to do/say, do it immedietly.

Sometimes, people might be afraid to be themselfes, because they are afraid to be rejected by a group. Most oftenly, people form groups not because of love, but because of fear and uncertainty. The only group we should place ourselfes in is the group of all living entities in universe. As long as we are ourselfes, we are living. Since the body is actually dead, and the soul is the only true living body, the body, although medically alive, is dead unless it is in contact with it's inherent soul. As long we are ourselfes, we therefore do not need to fear being rejected from the group of all living things in universe.

Another thing you may do is to get in contact with your spiritual guide (every human beeing got one). To get in contact with him/her, you may try the following steps: Close your eyes. All you see is darkness. Imagine that somewhere in that darkness, there is an invisable entity. Now, shake the hand of the entity, say hello to it and try to speak to it, ask it questions.
When you speak to the entity, do it in the same way that you speak to people in your dreams, while asleep.

Knowledge about yourself is highly beneficial in many areas inlife, especially in your relations with other people. A relation between two persons is determined by who those tho persons are as individual. In order to know how to relate to another being, you must know partly who you are as a soul, partly who the other being is as a soul. Since there is infinite different ways for one soul to be, there's also an infinite number of relations that two persons can have. Therefore, one should not try to put words on relations.

People say that we change throughout our lifes. This is a lie. The physical (located in the brain) knowledge we have about who we are incrieses through life, but who we really are is the same throughout life. In the same way, our relations to other people never change, and are the same even before birth. It is only the knowledge about what relations we have to other people that change.

[auron]

Start with out of body experiences. Begin with this book:


Robert Peterson - Out of Body Experiences.pdf (http://www.badongo.net/file/2727476)

:)

[infinitetruth]

It is knowing!


Defo. It's like an epiphany, you just know. A piece of the puzzle has just been found and fits together.

Many of us go around asking the 'big' questions, like

why are we here
where do we come from
Why is there suffering etc etc

Spiritual awakening is when you come closer to understanding these things.

And by the way I don't take drugs of any kind, not even caffeine.

I've often thought that the whole human race is like a child and it's growing, each shift in consciousness is like a child growing up to become and adult and the adult growing into a wise man or woman. I've often thought that what Bush is doing with this war is trying to take us a step backwards or keep us from moving on. I don't think that there are as many people out there who still think war is a viable option. Most people are past that way of thinking, we have 'outgrown' it.

[infinitetruth]

In mainstream society we can see this shift of consciousness in artwork, photos and films. The Matrix film was one of those turning points - now we have a new age of films which challenge the nature of our reality. Even science has gone beyond by questioning reality, the discovering of string theory and the 11 dimensions.

[thirdwave]

David Icke writes about it... you talk about it here as well...

Some people like to finish their posts with words like Love and Peace... and they use beautiful pictures for their avatars such as this one with Chakras -

http://www.enlightenedbeings.com/pix/chakraman.jpg

OK...
It looks cool.

:)

But what IS actually Spiritual Awakening? Who can explain?...





well I think the word "Physic" means spirit... so we can see the word spirit as another word for our minds.... ..our soul is just another word for our minds....

after all the brain does not count for our thoughts... only how our thoughts can trigger things within our brain... but it does not tell us how our thoughts manifest to start with....


so what is a mind awakening.... to me it sounds like you are saying your mind becomes more conscious to the things it is capable of...what it is actually doing.... and what is all around it....

much like how when we awake from our beds.... we become aware of what the weather is like outside... what's all around us... and what we need to do....

so for me spiritual awakening just means our minds wake up, meaning at the moment most of us if not all of us are not fully awake.

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[december]

Thank you ALL for your kind answers... I am actually surprised to see so many posts...
I don't have time to answer all of them today...
Here's some music for you....

Space Meditation Video - Colonies
Space Meditation Video - Colonies - Spiritual Music - YouTube

:)

[king]

I don't think so. I asked a question which you couldn't answer.
If you cannot explain something than it means that you just don't understand it.

you are right -- it means that you just don't understand it.

because I gave you the answer already.


like i said -- you have to experience it.
apparently you have not.

do you understand now, or do i have to draw a
picture for you?

[edit]

Thank you ALL for your kind answers... I am actually surprised to see so many posts...
I don't have time today to answer all of them today...
Here's some music for you....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdYrUQQkTdU

:) [COLOR="Gray"]again - When We Dance
~ This sharp view of M65 shows off the... ~ nasa.gov (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0706/m65_wendel_c720.jpg

[edit]

...a
picture for you?:cool:techspace.com-Staff Writer-Reveals - Streams of Stars &
Nature of Milky Way- 30 May 2007-
_stellar_streams- (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070530_stellar_streams.html)
http://a52.g.akamaitech.net/f/52/827/1d/www.space.com/images/070530_star_stream_02.jpg
Three new streams of stars were discovered ringing the Milky Way. The two closest streams are
thought to be star clusters, while the huge arcing stream is thought to be a dwarf galaxy.
Credit: Caltech

[danielg]

But what IS actually Spiritual Awakening? Who can explain?
... mystical lingo for people becoming aware of the need to unite any sense of ego/ self seperation. The dark night of the soul, if one will.

[lottie]

ok forgive me for being dense but if that picture with the arrow is pointing at our sun- where's the light in the middle of our galaxy coming from??!! :confused:

December... this is something i have struggled to understand for the last year about what is a spiritual awakening...i was expecting some sort of obvious epiphany or something or light to start eminating from my head or something (lol) but is actually nothing like that, now i understand it but it is seriously something that cannot be explained in words and is definately something personal to each and everyone of us depending on how we interpret that awakening, if i could explain it i would but words just wouldnt do it justice, its something you have to experience yourself and i know how frustrating that can be because i used to think well why cant someone just explain it to me but you cant- its a personal journey and not one that just happens and stops -its ongoing- all the time im awakening further as i learn more! its a slow process (well for me anyway) and although it has been dubbed 'spiritual awakening'- this is justa word too- to try and explain it- i dont know if what ive had is a spiritual awakening as such but those two words explain it in the best way i can find, all i know is that i see things very differently now- my opinions have changed, my views are much more open and my mind too- i used to think i was open minded and i was to a degree but not like now- its kind of like changing the way you think, reprogramming your mind to think for yourself instead of just thinking the way you've been conditioned to think- everything i ever believed in that the world and everyone i ever came in contact with was based on lies and deciet, now i can see that and finally stop repeating what ive been told and start actually looking for answers myself instead of relying on others to provide it!! THrough opening my mind i have been able to conceive/comprehend ideas that i would have never been able to before and its a wonderful feeling- by opening your mind you can learn so much if you just let go of your security and believe in yourself - make YOU your security so you dont rely on others - the rest just flows....

anyway- thats my brief explanation of which doesnt even scratch the surface...

[jimijams]

... mystical lingo for people becoming aware of the need to unite any sense of ego/ self seperation. The dark night of the soul, if one will.
It is interesting you say that danielg because I had to wade through a lot of darkness and I mean real darkness before I truly awoke. I had no choice really, it was either awaken to my true self or totally give in to the darkness which would of eventually killed me.

[edit]

Gazing up at the man in the star?

http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/altair.jpg
An artist's rendition of Altair,
a star that spins so quickly it stretches at its equator.
Astronomers have now captured an image of Altair with such fine detail that
variations can be seen on the star's surface.
Credit: Zina Deretsky, National Science Foundation

Researchers take picture of the face of Altair, a first for a star like our own
Using a suite of four telescopes, astronomers have captured an image of Altair, one of the closest stars to our own and a fixture in the summer sky.
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For example, Altair is a speedily spinning "rapid rotator", just like Vega, one of Altair's partners (with the slow-spinning supergiant Deneb) in the Summer Triangle in the night sky.

Altair spins so quickly, about 300 kilometers per second at its equator, that it's shape is distorted: the star is a full 22 percent wider than it is tall. The new telescope measurements confirmed the oblong shape, yet showed slightly different surface temperature patterns than what models predicted.

Altair is one of the closest stars in our neighborhood, only about 15 light years away, and the researchers hope to image Vega as well as more distant stars in the future.

"Imaging stars is just the start.We are going to next apply this technology to imaging extrasolar planets around nearby stars," said Ming Zhao, an astronomy graduate student at Michigan who carried out the detailed stellar modeling.


Source: National Science Foundation

Space & Earth science - More news (http://www.physorg.com/news99847940.html)

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Cluster hits the magnetic bull's-eye


This artist's impression shows http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/Cluster_encompassing_magnetic_null_region_L.jpg
the four Cluster spacecraft encompassing a 'magnetic null' region. A magnetic null region is a three dimensional zone where the magnetic fields break and reconnect. Before ESA's Cluster started exploring the Earth's magnetosphere it was not possible to identify any of such regions, as the detection required at least four simultaneous points of measurements. Cluster measurements made on 15 September 2001 showed that the null point exists in an unexpected vortex structure about 500 kilometres across, a characteristic size never been reported before in observations, theory or simulations. Credits: Dr. Xiao/Chinese Academy of Sciences (Beijing)

ESA's spacecraft constellation Cluster has hit the magnetic bull's-eye.
The four spacecraft surrounded a region within which the Earth's magnetic field was spontaneously reconfiguring itself.


At the very heart of a reconnection event, there must be a three dimensional zone where the magnetic fields break and reconnect. Scientists call this region the null point but, until now, have never been able to positively identify one, as it requires at least four simultaneous points of measurements.

On 15 September 2001, the four Cluster spacecraft were passing behind the Earth. They were flying in a tetrahedral formation with separations between the spacecraft of over 1 000 kilometres. As they flew through the Earth's magnetotail, which stretches out behind the night-time side of our planet, they surrounded one of the suspected null points.

http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/Spiral_structure_of_magnetic_field_around_magnetic _null_L.jpg
This sketch shows the spiral structure of the Earth's
magnetic field around a so-called 'magnetic null' point, as discovered by
ESA's Cluster on 15 September 2001. A magnetic null region is a three
dimensional zone where the magnetic fields break and reconnect.
Credits: Dr. Xiao/Chinese Academy of Sciences (Beijing)

The data returned by the spacecraft have been extensively analysed by an international team of scientists led by Dr. C. Xiao from Chinese Academy of Sciences, Prof. Pu from Peking University, Prof. Wang from Dalian University of Technogy. Xiao and his colleagues used the Cluster data to deduce the three-dimensional structure and size of the null point, revealing a surprise.

The null point exists in an unexpected vortex structure about 500 kilometres across. "This characteristic size has never been reported before in observations, theory or simulations," say Xiao, Pu and Wang.

This result is a major achievement for the Cluster mission as it gives scientists their first look at the very heart of the reconnection process...

Full story » (http://www.physorg.com/news72446617.html)


Team Finds Magnetic Islands Are Source of Mysterious High Speed Electrons

http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/mag+sun_small.gif
Illustration showing electrons and other charged particles streaming from the sun (right) and hitting Earth's magnetic field (left). Courtesy NASA

A team of scientists led by University of Maryland physics professor James Drake appear to have solved a key remaining mystery about how the interaction of magnetic fields produce the explosive releases of energy seen in solar flares, storms in the Earth’s magnetosphere and many other powerful cosmic events.


Full story » (http://www.physorg.com/news79191429.html)

[montag]

Edit as intriguing and beautiful as your posts are they are irrelevant to the topic of this thread, please feel free to start your own thread on The Source of Mysterious High Speed Electrons but please don't spam this thread.

onegaishimasu
Montag

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from >
A Universal Truth (http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:iq5DDkfdYccJ:www.adishakti.org/subtle_system/a_universal_truth.htm+bindu+may+poison+if+this+cha kra+is+not+awaken&hl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=nl)
the Tree of Life within all humans - http://adishakti.org/images/ss_kundalini.gif

Anahata Chakra (Heart); Gevurah-Hesed

Anahata operates at the level of the soul and symbolically relates to the awakening of the heart. It is important to remember the warning about the barrier: "The second psychic knot is located at this heart centre. It represents the bondage of emotional attachment, the tendency to live one's life making decisions on the strength of the emotions rather than in the light of the spiritual quest."

Awakening this chakra is the key to fate and freewill. "......

It seems that awakening of a chakra follows the pattern of the Lightning Flash on the Tree. In Anahata the negative tendencies of Gevurah usually surface first, like fear and pessimistic attitudes towards life. One has to remember the power of wish fulfilling at this level in order not to manifest negative wishes. "It is important to have a firm and alert control over the mental tendencies and fantasies of the mind."

In order to move on, one needs to cultivate the qualities of Hesed. A positive way of thinking is vital. Also enjoying the arts at their best can be helpful. "Anahata chakra awakens refined emotion in the brain and its awakening is characterized by a feeling of universal, unlimited love for all beings."

Vishuddhi Chakra (Throat); Da'at

Besides Vishuddhi being described as the void in the tantra, there is also the knowledge aspect as in Kabbalah. "The more abstract aspect of Vishuddhi is the faculty of higher discrimination. Hence any communication received telepathically can be tested here for its correctness and accuracy. Similarly, Vishuddhi allows us to differentiate between Realization coming into our consciousness from the higher levels of knowledge, and the mere babblings of our unconscious mind and wishful thinking."

Vishuddhi is also known as the 'nectar and poison centre'. This would mean 'death and transformation' in more familiar terms. The nectar IS transcendental fluid, 'the Dew of Heaven'. "As long as Vishuddhi chakra remains inactive, this fluid runs downward unimpeded, to be consumed in the fire of Manipura, resulting in the processes of decay, degeneration and finally death in the body's tissues. When Vishuddhi is awakened the divine fluid is retained and utilized, becoming the nectar of immortality. The secret of youth and regeneration of the body lies in the awakening of Vishuddhi chakra."

Vishuddhi is also the key to psychological regeneration. "At the level of Vishuddhi and above, even the poisonous and negative aspects of existence become integrated into the total scheme of being. They are rendered powerless as concepts of good and bad fall away. At this state of awareness the poisonous aspects and experiences of life are absorbed and transformed into a state of bliss."

Interconnected with Vishuddhi chakra is Bindu Visarga. Very little is known and written about it as it is beyond the realm of all conventional experience. On the Jacob's Ladder it would relate to the Yesod of Beriah, which underlies the Daat of Yezirah. "Bindu is a trap-door opening in both directions." It is said to be the origin of manifest individuality. "From this point or seed an object, an animal, a human being or whatever, can arise and manifest. Each and every object has a Bindu as its base. That which was previously formless assumes shape through the Bindu, and its nature is fixed by the Bindu as well."


Ajna Chakra (The Third Eye); Binah-Hokhmah

Ajna is the chakra of higher intellect. "Ajna is the witnessing centre where one becomes the detached observer of all events, including those within the body and mind. Here the level of awareness is developed whereby one begins to 'see' the hidden essence underlying all visible appearances. When Ajna is awakened, the meaning and significance of symbols flashes into one's conscious perception and intuitive knowledge arises effortlessly."


Bindu Wave

http://www.mandalas.com/images/Lrg_image_Pages/sqmandalas/BindiWave8.jpg
see more > (http://www.mandalas.com/SquareMandalas/sqmandala_gallery.php)

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Edit as intriguing and beautiful as your posts are they are irrelevant to the topic of this thread, please feel free to start your own thread on The Source of Mysterious High Speed Electrons but please don't spam this thread.

onegaishimasu
Montag
Ok.. M..:cool:
________ Moon Love
http://www.mandalas.com/images/icons_gallery/sq_mandalas/Moon_Love_icon.jpg
Think ;) ~I am, as out of here...

:) now

[montag]

ご協力どうも有り難うございました。

[yinon]

well December, there isn't so much to understand... somebody can try to explain it, but it's something that is not easy to describe in simple terms using our tiny tiny limited vocabulary. I can only face it to understand it, and every awakening experience is very different from each one of us. My path is different from the yours. Actually, the awakening is something that you don't need to ask to know what it is. If you're into an awakening process, then you would know it without asking. It's something that it's feels, not to read it on a computer monitor. Your consciousness actually already knows it... so ask to yourself what it is... and leave open a channel for your consciousness to talk to you. Seriously, it's a very personal path...

True. It's really hard to explain but I think we can put words on the steps to get there. It has nothing to do with the CHAKRA STUFF. Edit spam this board with disinformation

Edit as intriguing and beautiful as your posts are they are irrelevant to the topic of this thread, please feel free to start your own thread on The Source of Mysterious High Speed Electrons but please don't spam this thread.

onegaishimasu
Montag

Bravo!


The last step is relate to the connection of the masculine and feminine. Forget the chakra medicine. When you learn to love unconditionally what separate us...The chakras are opening. Don't focus on the esoteric stuff ...only love matters. The difference we perceive between us all are there to awaken us.

That's why many of us are still immature. They never shared the right information.

Thank you again Montag!

[yinon]

What does that mean when we talk about the connection between the feminine and masculine?

It doesn't mean to become gay, transexual, or lesbian

It only means that we have to honor and love unconditionaly our sexual , physiological, psychological differences.

That's why twin souls are at their last incarnation. The perfect counterpart, your complement helps you to kick your ass out of here for ever.

Stop to spam this board and other boards Synergy and EDIT......

[yinon]

Twin souls comes in two separate bodies. One gonna be masculine and the other one feminine.

Whatever their sexual orientation, they gonna have to merge as an heterosexual couple.


Here's the truth!

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btw... heres* it & U2 yinon
bautforum.com/showthread....South East's Ramblings (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=57455&page=2)

:D

welll ... just 'cos i "see" things different-ly yinnon

&...D
now ..an add for your :D logo
as ~ learnin' fishin' ~
Hok·kai·do (hŏ-kī'dō, hô'kī- dō' ) http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif (http://www.answers.com/topic/hokkaido)
An island of Japan north of Honshu. It is the second largest of the Japanese islands but the least populated. Hokkaido became part of Japan in the medieval period (c. 1600) and was called Yezo or Ezo until 1868.

Hokkaido (hōkī'dō) , island (1990 pop. 5,643,515), c.30,130 sq mi (78,040 sq km), N Japan, separated from Honshu island by the Tsugaru Strait and from Sakhalin, Russia, by the Soya Strait. It is the second largest, northernmost, and most sparsely populated of the major islands of Japan. Once called Yezo, it received the name Hokkaido [region of the northern sea] in 1869. Its rugged interior with many volcanic peaks rises to 7,511 ft (2,289 m) in Asahi-dake and, like all of Japan, the island is subject to earthquakes. The Ishikari, second longest river of Japan, traverses W Hokkaido; its valley is an important urban and industrial region. Hokkaido has a humid continental climate and receives much snow. Forests, covering most of the island, are a source of lumber, pulp, and paper (milled in Hokkaido). Coal, iron, and manganese are mined; the Ishikari coal field produces a major part of Japan's supply. Although large areas of the island are unsuited to farming, agriculture is an important occupation. Hokkaido is one of the major fishing centers of the world.
;)

[yinon]

Twin souls comes in two separate bodies. One gonna be masculine and the other one feminine.

Whatever their sexual orientation, they gonna have to merge as an heterosexual couple.


Here's the truth!

When the connection is made between the TWO - they can merge at the universal level

Only when they have realised their union on this plan they become a real universal lover. You cannot skip that step.

[peter19]

in my oppinion a spiritual awakening is to become and to be conscious. i dont think i have had a spiritual awakeing because as jimi has said for you to label something you need to measure it of something else, so from that point of view you could say i have become more conscious but still not awake. when you are awake you are awake to the true reality of everything, who you are, but you dont just say this is who i am because so and so said its who i am you know that who you are is who you are, and once you label yourself you put yourself into a box and then imprison yourself to a degree. even saying you are spiritual is putting you in a box because you can think i am spiritual " i should act spiritual" then what you do is create in your mind what true spirituality is and then try to live your concept of spirituality. i think a good way to view a spiritual awakening and another way to say it is - to become REAL.

and getting rid of your programs which has been put onto you can help with that. its like many people say you dont need to learn more you sort of need to deprogram yourself and be real.

[december]

:D
welll ... just 'cos i "see" things different-ly yinnon

Hello, Edit. :)
I am glad to see you AGAIN... ;)

I'd like to ask you something... Do you know the meaning of the Hokkaido University logo?

Is this the six pointed star or a flower?

http://www.hokudai.ac.jp/en/image/img_header.gif

http://www.hokudai.ac.jp/en/

[king]

December... this is something i have struggled to understand for the last year about what is a spiritual awakening...i was expecting some sort of obvious epiphany or something or light to start eminating from my head or something (lol) but is actually nothing like that, now i understand it but it is seriously something that cannot be explained in words and is definately something personal to each and everyone of us depending on how we interpret that awakening, if i could explain it i would but words just wouldnt do it justice, its something you have to experience yourself and i know how frustrating that can be because i used to think well why cant someone just explain it to me but you cant- its a personal journey and not one that just happens and stops -its ongoing- all the time im awakening further as i learn more! its a slow process (well for me anyway) and although it has been dubbed 'spiritual awakening'- this is justa word too- to try and explain it- i dont know if what ive had is a spiritual awakening as such but those two words explain it in the best way i can find, all i know is that i see things very differently now- my opinions have changed, my views are much more open and my mind too- i used to think i was open minded and i was to a degree but not like now- its kind of like changing the way you think, reprogramming your mind to think for yourself instead of just thinking the way you've been conditioned to think- everything i ever believed in that the world and everyone i ever came in contact with was based on lies and deciet, now i can see that and finally stop repeating what ive been told and start actually looking for answers myself instead of relying on others to provide it!! THrough opening my mind i have been able to conceive/comprehend ideas that i would have never been able to before and its a wonderful feeling- by opening your mind you can learn so much if you just let go of your security and believe in yourself - make YOU your security so you dont rely on others - the rest just flows....

anyway- thats my brief explanation of which doesnt even scratch the surface...


that is good indication of what spiritual awakening is all about.
my experience was very similar to this, but it cannot be explained -- only experienced.

since you got me going -- i will add my comment as well.

i would only add that when you become truly awakened -- you just deprogrammed your self fully, you
question everything.
But in same time you can see the absolite evil but you know in your heart that there is higher creative force and you can recognize it in all things living and "dead" that is balancing things out. And you know, that if "good force" did not exist -- evil would had corrupted and destroy everything -- including itself.

Then you begin to see the life differently, you begin to understand that our grandfathers we lot smarter in believing in "supernatural" and that we are the ones who were brainwashed lot more than they were, and you begin to see how stupid is to have your mind/ego in driving seat.
that is worse than a drunk 16 year old drag-racing on a slippery road in meaga horsepower muscle car.

And, your wisdom begin to grow, your intuition begin to guide you.
you can see then that in actuality, nothing is really dead, because even a speckle of sand has some memory of time, a flower has basic intelligence because it knows where the light is, and even little birds have form of universal consciousness.
you can see that all of that is in perfect balance, although it does not seem that way to many of the people around you.
now, you already can see the empty shells of the people that they schlep around, but you are now able to feel how tormented their souls are. Therefore, you drop your ego, you give them a smile, and you look them in the eyes
more than you used to. You are more prone to saying thank you to those that you have not seen before.

This alone gives you some of the humanity back, humanity that most of us lost through insane system that we live in.
This is how you begin to balance the things out, you begin to understand that it is YOU that must change, not others.
so, you do as you know you have to do.

when you begin to appreciate all of those things around you then you just begin to know the things on a level of "just knowing".

and you know that those who are trying to totally rule over us will never be able to do so, their systems are destined to fail because of that universal creative force that will just balance things out.

and, you begin to understand that you are so insignificant in all scheme of 3d things, but that you are immensely significant, actually very important on scale of spiritual realm and that is why you are here.

and, you drop your ego and you learn that true enlightenment does not come through the mind via help of some guru or mentor, but it can only happen when you open up your heart and when you start expressing love for that creative force that keeps everything in balance.
And how do you express your love to that creative force?
you just begin to appreciate everything, from the grass to a tree, from a coworker to your own family.
You begin to avoid conflicts but to bring balance and smiles.

and, funny thing happens then -- you begin to stop worrying as much what some evil people have planned for you because now you are reconnected with the creative force. so, in a sense, on a higher level you just do not give a fuck what evil ones are planing becuse you know why you are here! You are on a mission!

you begin to understand that death in 3d is just a natural process and that this life here on earth, in 3d is not as important as your spiritual growth and what you do afterwards in spiritual realm.

then, you fully understand why are you here, in this time and age and you just know that you are not here in 3d so that you can be frightened shitless because of some big bad illuminati.

because, now that you have the power you can see those same Luciferian hacks as bunch of cowardly and very stupid men who are very intelligent (intellectually) yet very stupid (spiritually) for even trying to become gods themselves.

you see them as bunch of idiots playing in a gunpowder room with the mathes, you do not see them as powerful rulers of the world because you can see them naked.

then, you begin to discover many other individuals like you, and you begin to understand that it is small minority that counts, always did and always will. then, knowing who you truly are and how important is you mission here on earth you begin to do why you are here for. And, you just know why you are here.

But, this process is truly individual and what works for me may not work for you.

spiritually awakened people do not buy projected bullshit anymore, they rather make a mistake and learn from it than worry what someone will think of them.

i hope that this helps

[baron von lotsov]

Like the new age equivalent to what Archimedes felt after he had sussed out how to stop people defrauding the king with their hollow gold. The only difference being that he had actually discovered something useful.

[lookfar]

When the connection is made between the TWO - they can merge at the universal level

Only when they have realised their union on this plan they become a real universal lover. You cannot skip that step.

Great post there yinon, I totally agree with you here, spot on :)

[lookfar]

ok forgive me for being dense but if that picture with the arrow is pointing at our sun- where's the light in the middle of our galaxy coming from??!! :confused:

December... this is something i have struggled to understand for the last year about what is a spiritual awakening...i was expecting some sort of obvious epiphany or something or light to start eminating from my head or something (lol) but is actually nothing like that, now i understand it but it is seriously something that cannot be explained in words and is definately something personal to each and everyone of us depending on how we interpret that awakening, if i could explain it i would but words just wouldnt do it justice, its something you have to experience yourself and i know how frustrating that can be because i used to think well why cant someone just explain it to me but you cant- its a personal journey and not one that just happens and stops -its ongoing- all the time im awakening further as i learn more! its a slow process (well for me anyway) and although it has been dubbed 'spiritual awakening'- this is justa word too- to try and explain it- i dont know if what ive had is a spiritual awakening as such but those two words explain it in the best way i can find, all i know is that i see things very differently now- my opinions have changed, my views are much more open and my mind too- i used to think i was open minded and i was to a degree but not like now- its kind of like changing the way you think, reprogramming your mind to think for yourself instead of just thinking the way you've been conditioned to think- everything i ever believed in that the world and everyone i ever came in contact with was based on lies and deciet, now i can see that and finally stop repeating what ive been told and start actually looking for answers myself instead of relying on others to provide it!! THrough opening my mind i have been able to conceive/comprehend ideas that i would have never been able to before and its a wonderful feeling- by opening your mind you can learn so much if you just let go of your security and believe in yourself - make YOU your security so you dont rely on others - the rest just flows....

anyway- thats my brief explanation of which doesnt even scratch the surface...

Great post there honey, you summed it up really well, nice one!!:D;)

[them]

http://www.thinking-allowed.com/photos/gangadean.gif
This is a Pdf written by Ashok K Gangadean who is a man that is trying to describe spiritual awakening for a living. His paper is called SPIRITUAL TRANSFORMATION AS THE AWAKENING OF GLOBAL CONSCIOUSNESS: A DIMENSIONAL SHIFT IN THE TECHNOLOGY OF MIND

Abstract:

Great spiritual and philosophical traditions through the ages have sought to tap and articulate the grammar or logic of the fundamental unified field that is the common generative ground of our diverse worldviews, religions, cultures, ideologies, and disciplinary languages. I suggest that we are in the midst of a profound dimensional shift in our rational capacity to process reality, and I seek to articulate the implications of this evolutionary shift to global reason and awakened consciousness for all aspects of our human and rational enterprise. It is clear that we are in the midst of an unprecedented shift in the human condition—a global renaissance that affects every aspect of our cultural lives, self-understanding, experience, and world making. This evolutionary transformation, when seen through the dilated global lens, has been emerging through the ages on a global scale. I suggest that this advance in our technology of mind is of an order of magnitude that is so radical and comprehensive that the very concept of a person, of what it means to be human, of our encounter with Reality, and of all our hermeneutical arts including the sciences are likewise taken to a higher, global, dimension. I explore this emergent grammar of spiritual transformation to global, dialogic, integral, and holistic consciousness, the global awakening of reason, scientific knowing, and the holistic worldview.

http://www.speedyshare.com/930993824.html - link to Pdf download

Dr. Gangadeans website: http://www.awakeningmind.org/ - link

http://www.courtneymilne.com/images/bigimages/callanish.jpeg (http://www.astrocal.co.uk/callanish.html)
http://markjberry.blogs.com/way_out_west/Deconstruction.jpg

[baron von lotsov]

If you substitute the phrase 'spiritual awakening' with 'demonic possession' then a lot of new age stuff makes far more sense. It's a case of semantics used to the extreme.

[december]

If you substitute the phrase 'spiritual awakening' with 'demonic possession' then a lot of new age stuff makes far more sense. It's a case of semantics used to the extreme.

Baron von lotsov, I am sure you know that 'demonic possession' is Christian terminology, and therefore cannot be taken seriously.

However!...

I am sure that there ARE good and bad spirits in Nature and the bad ones reside in some Church members.

:)

[december]

http://www.courtneymilne.com/images/bigimages/callanish.jpeg (http://www.astrocal.co.uk/callanish.html)
http://markjberry.blogs.com/way_out_west/Deconstruction.jpg

Well...
It looks like people in Britain are trying to get back to their roots.

:)


From the Arkaim Codex:

"The past is worthy of our attention. Choosing the past, we choose the future".

http://www.symboldrama.ru/Sobitiya/Arkaim05_files/arkaim_big.jpg

[jimijams]

Hi December, This is an excerpt from The Power Of Now written by Eckhart Tolle describing his own spiritual awakening..

I have little use for the past and rarely think about it; however, I would briefly like to tell you how I came to be a spiritual teacher and how this book came into existence.

Until my thirtieth year, I lived in a state of almost continuous anxiety interspersed with periods of suicidal depression. It feels now as if I am talking about some past lifetime or somebody else's life.

One night not long after my twenty-ninth birthday, I woke up in the early hours with a feeling of absolute dread. I had woken up with such a feeling many times before, but this time it was more intense than it had ever been.

The silence of the night, the vague outlines of the furniture in the dark room, the distant noise of a passing train - everything felt so alien, so hostile, and so utterly meaningless that it created in me a deep loathing of the world. The most loathsome thing of all, however, was my own existence. What was the point in continuing to live with this burden of misery? Why carry on with this continuous struggle? I could feel that a deep longing for annihilation, for nonexistence, was now becoming much stronger than the instinctive desire to continue to live.

"I cannot live with myself any longer." This was the thought that kept repeating itself in my mind. Then suddenly I became aware of what a peculiar thought it was. `Am I one or two? If I cannot live with myself, there must be two of me: the `I' and the `self' that `I' cannot live with." "Maybe," I thought, "only one of them is real."

I was so stunned by this strange realization that my mind stopped. I was fully conscious, but there were no more thoughts. Then I felt drawn into what seemed like a vortex of energy. It was a slow movement at first and then accelerated. I was gripped by an intense fear, and my body started to shake. I heard the words "resist nothing," as if spoken inside my chest. I could feel myself being sucked into a void. It felt as if the void was inside myself rather than outside. Suddenly, there was no more fear, and I let myself fall into that void. I have no recollection of what happened after that.

I was awakened by the chirping of a bird outside the window. I had never heard such a sound before. My eyes were still closed, and I saw the image of a precious diamond. Yes, if a diamond could make a sound, this is what it would be like.

I opened my eyes. The first light of dawn was filtering through the curtains. Without any thought, I felt, I knew, that there is infinitely more to light than we realize. That soft luminosity filtering through the curtains was love itself. Tears came into my eyes. I got up and walked around the room. I recognized the room, and yet I knew that I had never truly seen it before. Everything was fresh and pristine, as if it had just come into existence. I picked up things, a pencil, an empty bottle, marveling at the beauty and aliveness of it all.

That day I walked around the city in utter amazement at the miracle of life on earth, as if I had just been born into this world.
For the next five months, I lived in a state of uninterrupted deep peace and bliss. After that, it diminished somewhat in intensity, or perhaps it just seemed to because it became my natural state. I could still function in the world, although I realized that nothing I ever did could possibly add anything to what I already had.

I knew, of course, that something profoundly significant had happened to me, but I didn't understand it at all. It wasn't until several years later, after I had read spiritual texts and spent time with spiritual teachers, that I realized that what everybody was looking for had already happened to me. I understood that the intense pressure of suffering that night must have forced my consciousness to withdraw from its identification with the unhappy and deeply fearful self, which is ultimately a fiction of the mind. This withdrawal must have been so complete that this false, suffering self immediately collapsed, just as if a plug had been pulled out of an inflatable toy. What was left then was my true nature as the ever-present I am: consciousness in its pure state prior to identification with form. Later I also learned to go into that inner timeless and deathless realm that I had originally perceived as a void and remain fully conscious. I dwelt in states of such indescribable bliss and sacredness that even the original experience I just described pales in comparison. A time came when, for a while, I was left with nothing on the physical plane. I had no relationships, no job, no home, no socially defined identity. I spent almost two years sitting on park benches in a state of the most intense joy.

http://users.telenet.be/psy/eckie.pdf

[baron von lotsov]

Baron von lotsov, I am sure you know that 'demonic possession' is Christian terminology, and therefore cannot be taken seriously.

However!...

I am sure that there ARE good and bad spirits in Nature and the bad ones reside in some Church members.

:)

Yeh whatever, but its also English.

Once someone gets possessed at some ritual then its a one way ticket regardless of what Joe Bloggs is doing next door. It's quite well defined, I had some occultist describe it to me. She said it felt like electricity, a sort of tingling sensation. What else could it possibly be and what do you mean good spirits unless you are taking about fine quality whisky?

[times7]

Knowing GOD LOVES YOU and you have an eternal soul

Such a person is blessed with a feeling of earnest humility who realises how,in spite of their own unworthiness they are brought by Gods mercy,into touch with the most sublime truths.Such a person is touched with the deepest emotion,which finds its outlet in tears(of joy)

[yinon]

Great post there yinon, I totally agree with you here, spot on :)

Hey lookfar, what's your point? Where do you disagree? It's important because I observed that many writters are avoiding this simple truth. Are you trying to protect someone here? Do you have gay friends who can be mad? Are you playing on two fronts again to preserve your life? What place relationships have in your life? Are you spreading the THINK BIG agenda? Are you behind the next religion to come? Are you associated with big EGOS ?

I have met one of them for who relationships are not that important . They focus on money . Do you know what? The guy needed women's insights to come back on track. I don't think one day he's gonna be humble enough to admit it. I hope for all of us.

[lookfar]

Hey lookfar, what's your point? Where do you disagree? It's important because I observed that many writters are avoiding this simple truth. Are you trying to protect someone here? Do you have gay friends who can be mad? Are you playing on two fronts again to preserve your life? What place relationships have in your life? Are you spreading the THINK BIG agenda? Are you behind the next religion to come? Are you associated with big EGOS ?

I have met one of them for who relationships are not that important . They focus on money . Do you know what? The guy needed women's insights to come back on track. I don't think one day he's gonna be humble enough to admit it. I hope for all of us.

Hey yinon

I'm not sure what you mean your post :confused: I was merely agreeing with what you said about the balance of two souls merging on a spiritual level, nothing to do with gays, having a hidden agenda or egos etc, WTF??!!:confused:

[yinon]

Hey yinon

I'm not sure what you mean your post :confused: I was merely agreeing with what you said about the balance of two souls merging on a spiritual level, nothing to do with gays, having a hidden agenda or egos etc, WTF??!!:confused:

I am not talking of two souls. One soul split in half. Not the same game. That's why we disagree

Yes they have a hidden agenda
Do you know what? They don't want to clarify this question. If they do ,all their plan fall apart.

Confusion about that matter let an open door for their lies. You are one of them as I can see

Your right. You just don't realize that you are supporting their warriors agenda.

[auron]

Hey lookfar, what's your point? Where do you disagree? It's important because I observed that many writters are avoiding this simple truth. Are you trying to protect someone here? Do you have gay friends who can be mad? Are you playing on two fronts again to preserve your life? What place relationships have in your life? Are you spreading the THINK BIG agenda? Are you behind the next religion to come? Are you associated with big EGOS ?

I have met one of them for who relationships are not that important . They focus on money . Do you know what? The guy needed women's insights to come back on track. I don't think one day he's gonna be humble enough to admit it. I hope for all of us.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3729/a1crystalballrd6.gif

I look into my crystal ball and..............

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S104.gif

[lookfar]

I am not talking of two souls. One soul split in half. Not the same game. That's why we disagree

Yes they have a hidden agenda
Do you know what? They don't want to clarify this question. If they do ,all their plan fall apart.

Confusion about that matter let an open door for their lies. You are one of them as I can see

Your right. You just don't realize that you are supporting their warriors agenda.

Ok yinon, I misunderstood your comment (as usual!) I think we're talking of different things here.

You're welcome to think whatever of me, (even though you don't know me), that's entirely up to you!! :)

[yinon]

Ok yinon, I misunderstood your comment (as usual!) I think we're talking of different things here.

You're welcome to think whatever of me, (even though you don't know me), that's entirely up to you!! :)

As usual you avoid important matters. I don't need to know you personaly. Your words unveiled who you are .

simple!

2 souls or one soul ...... Really important matters

One soul -....... 2 differents bodies male and female or male and male or female and female as one

Separation or unification?

Warrior or Lover?

Your agenda or mine?

[auron]

As usual you avoid important matters. I don't need to know you personaly. Your words unveiled who you are .

simple!

2 souls or one soul ...... Really important matters

One soul -....... 2 differents bodies male and female or male and male or female and female as one

Separation or unification?

Warrior or Lover?

Your agenda or mine?

What "agenda" are you on about mate? :confused:

I really have no idea of what you are talking about. Please be more specific, and explain properly what you mean.

[yinon]

What "agenda" are you on about mate? :confused:

I really have no idea of what you are talking about. Please be more specific, and explain properly what you mean.

My agenda:

Reunification of man and woman as one. The yin-yan symbol as the source of all. One soul and two different entities as one. A male and a female as one.

Expression of True love where you learn to dance with the opposite polarity

http://static.fotolia.com/photos_mini/2006-45/110_F_1666644_U85yqiayqDEFHeWXY4oBvIJhDaxLMs.jpg


Your agenda:

2 souls or one soul who merge without sexual distinction. What does It mean? No real reunification of man and woman. They gonna continue to separate us as they have always done. It's the warrior agenda because they reject the opposite polarity. Jesus as the perfect male or the SHEMALE as the perfect female.

We have talked about it many times. How can you not see clearly?

You support The New World Order shitt!

[auron]

Ok then. No further questions your honour.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5008/jointun9.gif

[the festival spirit]

oops

[pollock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54JdtwyQHFU

F

[edit]

Originally Posted by lottie
ok forgive me for being dense but if that picture with the arrow is pointing at our sun- where's the light in the middle of our galaxy coming from??!!
generator

Etymology
Latin


[edit] Noun
Singular
generator
Plural
generators


generator (plural generators) http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/generator

An apparatus, equipment, etc, to convert or change energy from one form to another.
A machine that converts mechanical energy into electrical energy.
One who, or that which, generates, begets, causes, or produces.
An apparatus in which vapour or gas is formed from a liquid or solid by means of heat or chemical process, as a steam boiler, gas retort etc.
(music) The principal sound or sounds by which others are produced; the fundamental note or root of the common chord; -- see also generating tone.
Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/generator"


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :
Estuary (disambiguation)

Estuary can refer to:

Estuary, a semi-enclosed body of water flowing into the sea.
Estuary English, a variety of English spoken in the south east of England.
The Estuary can mean the region of the River Thames and adjoining communities east of Central London.


Center of mass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Barycenter
For barycenters in geometry, see centroid.
The barycenter (or barycentre; from the Greek βαρύκεντρον) is the point between two objects where they balance each other.
Tidal force
[edit] Effects of tidal forces
In the case of an elastic sphere, the effect of a tidal force is to distort the shape of the body without any change in volume. The sphere becomes an ellipsoid, with two bulges, pointing towards and away from the other body. This is essentially what happens to the Earth's oceans.
Tidal force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Estuary
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An estuary is a semi-enclosed coastal body of water with one or more rivers or streams flowing into it, and with a free connection to the open sea.[1]
Estuary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Strong and weak induction

[edit] Strong induction
All observed crows are black.
therefore
All crows are black.
Inductive reasoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Activation energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Electric potential energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
P = IV
Electric power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Coulomb's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
inductive logic,...propositions such as:

This ice is cold.
A billiard ball moves when struck with a cue.
...to infer general propositions such as:

All ice is cold.
All billiard balls struck with a cue move.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/b/3/6/b36d404f86aff150dda03b4ddc8a209a.png
Induction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_Space
Noun induction http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/induction
[edit] English Pronunciation

Rhymes: -ʌkʃən

[edit] Noun
Singular
induction
Plural
inductions


induction (plural inductions)

the act of inducting



Finnish: roottori http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rotor
Finnish: staattori http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stator

(music) The principal sound or sounds by which others are produced; the fundamental note or root of the common chord; -- see also generating tone.
Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/generator"

Noun phrase
Electric motor

A motor that converts electrical energy into kinetic energy.

[edit] Antonym
generator
Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/electric_motor"

Introduction
As discussed in the main article on energy; various forms of energy: chemical energy, heat, electromagnetic radiation, potential energy (gravitational, electric, elastic, etc.), nuclear energy, rest energy can be categorized in two main classes: potential energy and kinetic energy.


The cars of a roller coaster reach their maximum kinetic energy when at the bottom of their path. When they start rising, the kinetic energy begins to be converted to gravitational potential energy, but the total amount of energy in the system remains constant (assuming a lack of friction and other retarding factors).Kinetic energy can be best understood by examples that demonstrate how it is transformed from other forms of energy and to the other forms.
For example, the cyclist ....Alternatively the cyclist could connect a dynamo to one of the wheels and also generate some electrical energy on the descent.
Kinetic energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fundamental interaction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[lookfar]

Jesus as the perfect male or the SHEMALE as the perfect female.

You support The New World Order shitt!

Jesus... well that says it all as far as I'm concerned!!:rolleyes:

Er yinon, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one ok, cos my head hurts, lol :)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7131/e4vb1.gif

[december]

I think this thread is going to die out because it was moved here from the General Chatter... :(

People just don't have time to look into every section of the forum.
And by the way, take a look WHERE The Awakening is located:


Today's News

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:confused:

[the festival spirit]

Originally Posted by lottie


Estuary (disambiguation)


I have seen the word disambiguation SOOOOOO many times lately, its because I have been looking up the meaning of words, and if you dismiss that as just meaning, looking up what the dictionary tells you a word means, let me tell you, you are wrong to dismiss words. when you have 'read' as many dictionaries as I have you know not to just believe one book. I can see I am going to have to make a thread about this.

Just when you think you know something, something else comes along, to tell you that there is more to know, oh man is there more to know here!(!!!!!!!!!!!!) added for those of us who appreciate (I am going to have to look up appreciate now) symbolism for what it is! Symbolism is a way of telling a message, whetehr that message is good or evil, depends.

(Just broke the paragraph up there, I have to constantly edit my posts because anything I write on this website, gets changed round in certain instances, people have already noticed this and commented on it., now for those of you who dont like me keep using brackets,)

Just when you think you know something, something else comes along, to tell you that there is more to know, oh man is there more to know here!(!!!!!!!!!!!!) added for those of us who appreciate symbolism for what it is! Symbolism is a way of telling a message, whetehr that message is good or evil, depends.

On exactly what it depends is one of those things I cant prove right now, without your help, because even if I prove it to you in the words I use you may not AGREE with those words and the arrangement I have (increasingly more nowadays) painstakingly set out for you, or for those who like it another way, this is taking too long, or for others, even if I think I have chosen my words absolutely perfectly, for the meaning that I MEAN, (and who is the judge of that) then you stilkl may think it is not agreeable enough for you, so you will resist the lesson that is being taught here.

(and for the downright argumentative buggers, .... NOT that I think anyone here needs teaching a lesson, but they do come here and ask for tehm.)

So where were we, oh yes the word disambiguation, do you know what that means? (for those of you who just can't be arsed to check up the facts, HERE,)
Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic. In many cases, this same word or phrase is the natural title of more than one article. In other words, disambiguations are paths leading to different topic pages that could have essentially the same term as their title.

For example, to create a link to Mercury, just put double square brackets around the word — [[Mercury]] — producing Mercury. Now, Mercury is a disambiguation page, listing the several usages of the word.


OK before you start that is just what wikipedia use disambiguation foir, (see paragraph 1!) The exclamation mark is there as a warning, thats what they are for, and using more than 1 IS unnecassary, (see paragraph, 2 + 4) there is only one warning, but sometimes I choose to EXPRESS the urgency of the warning, !!!!!!!! (see) I am no longer gonna start editing all my words to get the spellings correct cos this server is ***** ******)

The important part .......... of that last paragraph is this "listing the several usages of the word."

I came here on this thread to thank edit for such wonderful communication, "what" you may say, if you said 'what,' or something along the lines of 'you must be kidding' then I can confidently predict that you are one of thoise people that disregard or dismiss outright what edit has to say(!)

Note the (!) or for those who dont like my symbology, in other words, the exclamation mark in the brackets, or for those others (blah blah blah) I could have put the word might in that last bit, but I didn't. It is a direct and meaningful phrase, I intend what it says, not what you think it says.

Chosen to come into notepad now to write this.

I am a man that says what he means and means what he says. now, we could get into lots of pedantic chats about that saying, but those of you who have had a spiritual awakening will probably not argue with the phrase, anyone that reads dictionaries only, bring it on!

(Look out for my post, saying what we mean)

(I do not only read dictionaries,) I have read more books than some of you reading this have had hot dinners cooked and prepared by your mother, (i added the last bit to make more certain of the truth)

OK this is getting too long, I will get to the points.

1, A spiritual awakening is NOT hard to write about, it will make complete sense to the writer, the reader or secondhand observer, may make something completely different of it because of their own prejudices, and teh action of doing that is called discrimination.

2, If you consider that you, yourself have had a spiritual awakening, you will probably understand every single word and meaning of this and think it is interesting.

3, If you have NOT had a spiritual awakening you probably didn't get this far. but if you did please say so, this thread could become as legendary as the reveal yourself thread.

4, Edit may argue with this, but I think edits posts are amazing, that is ONE intelligent person, I guess edit is female but as edit doesnt want me to ask them in private, I may never know teh answer to that.

5, Just because the description of 'others' spiritual awakening, doesn't make sense to you, that doesn't make it any less valid.

6, Just because you don't understand edit, doesn't make his or her posts (sod it her posts) any less invalid.

7, There is much bullshit spouted on this website, sometimes edits posts seem like bullshit to a lot of people, but believe me, its just because they choose not to see what is being told.

8, need I go on?

9, Ok then I hear you, If you think this is off topic or bullshit, I ask you to think again.

10, if you do think its off topic, prove it, I have just given you the results of a spiritual awakening, that taught me MUCH.

11, I seriously hope I have not made any spelling mistakes since I came into notepad, cos(yep an abbreviation) I believe there is something wrong with this server.

12, I really could go on and on with points from this, but you'll have to buy my book ;)

Disclaimer,
OK Edit, you may get pissed off at me here, but it is NOT intended, I see much in your posts because they are very visual. I also hear what you are saying cos sometimes I do the research, only sometimes mind!

Its a shame edit has been reduced to doing what she does, I cant work out if edit is a secret agent or an anonymous coward. I have respect for edit either way, because I experience infinite love.

If someone like sean or johnpeters ask me not to encourage edit, then I will carry out their wish, cos it is their website and they are responsible for it! They may argue and say its not our website, its for you. And if so I will thank them for that.

For the pedantics, I sometimes leave out apostrophe's :) cos I cant be arsed.

ok it feels like a full circle but I will make a new thread based on this.

Watch out for my threads about circles and cycles,
and lines, straight and wavy,
and also what the mind can do,
and saying what we mean.

(4 threads)


PS can anyone spot the deliberate mistakes?

EDIT: to make the wikipedia quote correct, eg, to make it two paragraphs instead of one.

[the festival spirit]

[b]I think this thread is going to die out because it was moved here from the General Chatter... :(

People just don't have time to look into every section of the forum.
And by the way, take a look WHERE The Awakening is located:


I think you may be wrong.

[the festival spirit]

Some may say edit is a thread killer, I have a feeling I may become one soon too.

If I dont get banned lol ;) I love you all, if I do!

[the festival spirit]

December, why don't you engage in constructive conversation?

If you want to know about spiritual awakenings DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO!.

Or are you just taking the piss?

answers on a postcard or HERE please.

for the txt generation, I use capitals for emphasis NOT SHOUTING! lol

;)

[edit]

dis-ambiguation = dis-clustering

ambiguation etymological dictionary on line

A Shakespeare dictionary (SHAD): Some preliminaries for a semantic ...
morphological structure, etymology, etc. - all this. information causes relatively minor problems in ..... ambiguation is more or less understood. 2s Seeing ...
www.springerlink.com/index/N531682M85318TPH.pdf

"I Don’t Believe in Word Senses"
of the line or the other. A dictionary which dwells on marginal or vague uses of .... Dolan, William B. “Word Sense Ambiguation: Clustering Related Senses”. ...www.springerlink.com/index/L02645R0805180L5.pdf

[the festival spirit]

OK I AM risking everyone hating me here,

That was unbelieveably well said edit, thanks for answering my question,

And thanks for taking the time to talk to me at all, some people never reply!

2x

[eternal_spirit]

:D

[eternal_spirit]

I'm just a spectator on this thread at the moment. :D words are amazing and have many levels and depths, almost infinite. I also find words intresting and more of a mystery than spirituality. Look forward to you're ideas for new threads ....posts Festivalspirit. :D

[the festival spirit]

I'm just a spectator on this thread at the moment. :D words are amazing and have many levels and depths, almost infinite. I also find words intresting and more of a mystery than spirituality. Look forward to you're ideas for new threads ....posts Festivalspirit. :D

Why thank you very much indeedy mate, I cant wait either but this website is so danred good it takes all my time, I only came here after deciding to write a book, I now see I have to write 3 maybe four books, I have started each one off, but I just keep coming back here for more LOL :)

Words are fantastic, unbelieveably fantastic, and teh more you get to use and see them the more they become more fantastic, I could write a book OH sod it I will be writing 5 books, so can everybody stop writing (and pasting) so much bloody good stuff please I am busy!

oooh should that be a thread in the..... watch the rant room ladies and gents and others......

;)

[edit]

------------ http://www.ptgustan.com/jackalope1.jpg:D

[yinon]

And thanks for taking the time to talk to me at all, some people never reply!

2x


Do you know why?

Because you don't deserve my attention
You walked for age with the corrupted ones. You are blind of the heart.
Some of us have kept the truth alive. They paid a really high price for that. They died for LOVE.

You walk with disheartened beings. You wanted to shine but you became a lost soul. You are not deep man. You are an empty brain. Edit is an illiminati kid I think. Snob and no consistence

For myself you are a slut.

Sorry! Here's the truth

Here's my truth

You don't deserve to come in my life for the courage I had

Do you want another deep secret?

[yinon]

My other half - twin soul behaved as a slut in the past years. Or the guy protected my life and his life...

I didn't prostitute myself for that reason. The gang of a$$ hole around him didn't want to see me around. They wanted to have access to my genius but for one main reason ; Be the One who shines on the forefront.

You are sick.

I am poor today but you cannot stole my heart.


Anyway the clean-up is done!

It was the purpose of all that

[yinon]

That's why i am still alive. Usually they kill you faster but Mother earth is in big shitt!!!

They needed both of us to achieve this transition.


Ask yourself now why I am completly closed with you all!

You don,t deserve my love

[them]

Ask yourself now why I am completly closed with you all!

I would ask... but you seem to be the complete opposite to, completely closed, with post after post burbling on & on about yourself.

You don,t deserve my love

What are you scared of? Go on, give a little.. it is June after all.

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Natasha-Wescoat/June-Tree-Poster-C12269018.jpeg

[yinon]

What are you scared of? Go on, give a little.. it is June after all.

The Grey. They take possession of unbalance folks, people who cannot love.

Today I know, I won t walk beside people who cannot love. Love push them away. If you cannot love they take control of your being. They operate through others.

They have done it many times with my kids, ex-hubby...Each time , I had to help them to come back in the heart . If you cannot do it for yourself, I ll push you away. I am a human being after all with limitations even if I can achieve a lot. Do your homeworks A$$ hole. This planet is surrounded by dark entities. They live in another dimension. You cannot see them. That s why LOVE is the only answer for Mother earth

[yinon]

I would ask... but you seem to be the complete opposite to, completely closed, with post after post burbling on & on about yourself.

Some focus on themself and others on their personnal bank account. Who is worst?

The day they gonna realize they are here for their personal self....maybe Mother earth gonna survive. It's not a Take-Out here!

Self centered being?

My twin's brain is damage. He cannot love easily. I know he loves me but he walks with a$$ hole and I don't prostitute myself even if I love him.

[eternal_spirit]

Yinon this sounds like temporary possession, as if these negative entities influence even good peoples thoughts at times.

The more evil or imbalanced a person becomes, especially through negative rituals and possibly behaviour, then this opens up to full possession some say. The person is literally vibrating to the same frequency as the negative entities, so their spirit would fit that person like a glove. (vibrational compatibility)

[yinon]

He has a HUGE BRAIN

I have a HUGE HEART

The perfect twin couple with all the shiit coming around

[yinon]

Yinon this sounds like temporary possession, as if these negative entities influence even good peoples thoughts at times.

The more evil or imbalanced a person becomes, especially through negative rituals and possibly behaviour, then this opens up to full possession some say. The person is literally vibrating to the same frequency as the negative entities, so their spirit would fit that person like a glove. (vibrational compatibility)


And do you know what?


Again we gonna be the bad guys and girls even if they play ritual on us!

I don't have too much anger in my heart even if they play that game.

Really!

I don't reply with the same shitt! What's My personnal desire? I'm here for Love they are here for war!

[yinon]

Edit is the ONe with her perfect IMAGE who plays ritual on us


THis lady is sick


Really


Can you imagine how somebody can be mad when she needs to play the perfect figure on the forefront?


This lady is EVIL

Really!

[yinon]

Edit is the ONe with her perfect IMAGE who plays ritual on us


THis lady is sick


Really


Can you imagine how somebody can be mad when she needs to play the perfect figure on the forefront?


This lady is EVIL

Really!

[yinon]

The guy by his side is my twin and his brain is damage. He behaves as a NUT!

She plays with him!!!!

[yinon]

Anyway there is a Divine plan

the lady is one of the Rothman's Family I think

I cannot smell her even if I smoke

Yes I am open - always

Butt when I see a$$ holes around I don't let them play!


Good luck twin next life but I won't let you play your shitt

Call the emergency!

[yinon]

I am the bad girl on the forefront because I carry the flame of love

She is the Perfect girl on the forefront because she carries the flame of war


here's life! what a fucking game!

[auron]

Yinon. Are you familiar with the work of Eckhart Tolle? I'd recommend reading this book:

Eckhart Tolle - The Power of Now.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/3048825)

Take it easy man! :)

[yinon]

Yinon. Are you familiar with the work of Eckhart Tolle? I'd recommend reading this book:

Eckhart Tolle - The Power of Now.pdf (http://www.badongo.com/file/3048825)

Take it easy man! :)


Big JOKE! Eckart Tolle is another a$$ hole

I work with the genius of this planet - another leonard de Vinci

He is a real genius

tolle is an a$$ hole

I have read his book - Nothing to teach


really wake-up! My twin is the genius of tomorrow.....I'm gonna protect him until the end

I'm the heart of the planet even if you don't understand

i dont care

[auron]

Best of luck then mate! :)

[yinon]

Listen him! I asked you before ! Listen Him

He has a lot to say even if he cannot love

I am the heart he is the brain

Edit is A COPY!

The lady doesn't have personnality....She recuparates all because her father has money!

[lookfar]

I'm the heart of the planet even if you don't understand

i dont care

Yinon, I'm afraid I have no idea where you're coming from here, it's totally over my head. Please don't try to explain cos I don't think it'd work, but I do wish you all the best with it...:confused: :)

[i_am]

Speaking of thread killers

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_226.gif

[yinon]

Best of luck then mate! :)



Ok I see with who I'm dancing


You support them man. Really bad! They don't have nothing to say! tolly recuparated the work of others

Go at the source

Stop to listen this a$$ hole

He wants money

he is not a genius

Some walking on earth are working to find a solution

Edit is an Image

She doesn't think!


search elsewhere!

[lookfar]

Speaking of thread killers

http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_226.gif

LMAO I Am :D http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_231.gif

It would be good to see this one get back on track eh!! http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_138.gif

[yinon]

Yinon, I'm afraid I have no idea where you're coming from here, it's totally over my head. Please don't try to explain cos I don't think it'd work, but I do wish you all the best with it...:confused: :)

Yes over your head because you think

I do wish you to open the door of your heart for human kind

[yinon]

The Now = The Heart

You can talk about it without never touching it!

It's what happening on this awakening thread!

They share about love on the intellectual level but they never experienced it!

search elsewhere!

it's not for you yet!
Ask for it!

One day it's gonna come!

good luck mate

[montag]

LMAO I Am :D http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_231.gif

It would be good to see this one get back on track eh!! http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/2/3D_emoticon_138.gif
Yes indeed, Yinon please do not hijack this thread any longer and lets please get back on topic..

Montag

[the festival spirit]

OH I wish I had seen this earlier.

'I may not deserve to come in your life, but neither does everyone else deserve the intrusions you apply'

There is a facility on this forum that allows you to select users/members to be ignored, I would say, it means posts, threads, pm's all disappear and you dont see them again... maybe some of you would like to use this function.

Yinon, I'm afraid I have no idea where you're coming from here, it's totally over my head. Please don't try to explain cos I don't think it'd work, but I do wish you all the best with it...:confused: :)

Please lookfar, allow me to help just a little, but this does not do 'it' justice
edit = yinon

edit, yinon, some people call it paranoid schizophrenia, but I find that somewhat discriminatory. I prefer the edit version.

Once you were tethered
And now you are free

Why dont you just start a thread called 'for me,' and post to that, it only takes one or two clicks to delete you, but forum managers dont like doing that simply (well not really) because it plays havoc with threads, now I am not being discriminatory, I believe that, I also believe you are playing havoc with threads that people can learn from ......

I really wasn't expecting such a barrage, after your eloquent and polite replies yesterday, I have spoken of my past personal problems on this forum, but I dont recommend it. call me what you will. (hypocrite, a suggestion,)

you will see on that thread that I do not allow people to abuse me anymore, whether they like it or not, you will also ..... oh forget it!

OH you wil be able to tell which albums mean a lot to me these days.

> SOURCE < (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/ridinggiants/thisisthesea.htm)

Artist: The Waterboys
Song: This is the Sea, ....... Lyrics

These things you keep
You'd better throw them away
You wanna turn your back
On your soulless days
Once you were tethered
And now you are free
Once you were tethered
Well now you are free
That was the river
This is the sea!

Now if you're feelin' weary
If you've been alone too long
Maybe you've been suffering from
A few too many
Plans that have gone wrong
And you're trying to remember
How fine your life used to be
Running around banging your drum
Like it's 1973
Well that was the river
This is the sea!
Wooo!

Now you say you've got trouble
You say you've got pain
You say've got nothing left to believe in
Nothing to hold on to
Nothing to trust
Nothing but chains
You're scouring your conscience
Raking through your memories
Scouring your conscience
Raking through your memories
But that was the river
This is the sea yeah!

Now i can see you wavering
As you try to decide
You've got a war in your head
And it's tearing you up inside
You're trying to make sense
Of something that you just can't see
Trying to make sense now
And you know you once held the key
But that was the river
And this is the sea!
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!

Now i hear there's a train
It's coming on down the line
It's yours if you hurry
You've got still enough time
And you don't need no ticket
And you don't pay no fee
No you don't need no ticket
You don't pay no fee
Because that was the river
And this is the sea!

Behold the sea!

[wheresmyparachute]

Spiritual awakening? I met this really nice old man at the beach one day. He was obviously american indian. We were having a nice chat and began to stroll along the shore together as I was walking my dog. I had a reality check when I asked him the most stupid question... I asked: "Do you do spiritual work?" He smiled at me and told me that every day he is alive he is doing spiritual work. Yep... :o We are spiritually awakening even if we are not conscious of it. The benefits of being conscious of it help us see where we are going but we are awakening regardless.... - don't you think?

[them]

I watched a nest full of Moorhen eggs hatch out this morning into little Moorhens, fascinating.

You might want to describe that as spiritual event, on the other hand you might not.

http://www.blueskybirds.co.uk/photos/moorhen02.jpg
http://visoruk.50webs.com/moorhen-chicks.jpg
http://www.hampshirecam.co.uk/aug/moorhen_chicks7.jpg

[the festival spirit]

I watched a nest full of Moorhen eggs hatch out this morning into little Moorhens, fascinating.

You might want to describe that as spiritual event, on the other hand you might not.

http://www.blueskybirds.co.uk/photos/moorhen02.jpg
http://visoruk.50webs.com/moorhen-chicks.jpg
http://www.hampshirecam.co.uk/aug/moorhen_chicks7.jpg

I would :)

[lookfar]

Ah Them, that's an amazing thing to witness, how special!!:) Lovely pics too.

[yinon]

Please lookfar, allow me to help just a little, but this does not do 'it' justice
edit = yinon

edit, yinon, some people call it paranoid schizophrenia, but I find that somewhat discriminatory. I prefer the edit version.

Once you were tethered
And now you are free

Why dont you just start a thread called 'for me,' and post to that, it only takes one or two clicks to delete you, but forum managers dont like doing that simply (well not really) because it plays havoc with threads, now I am not being discriminatory, I believe that, I also believe you are playing havoc with threads that people can learn from ......

LOL

If you can tap it - All is resume here

But in the end - it has nothing to do with performing ritual on people to create more chaos in their life


Wave Function, Bondi
In the odd world of the quantum, things appear to exist in a multitude of states — describable only as the set of probabilities known as a wave function — until tipped into a definite outcome by an act of “measurement.”

John McCrone

... the absolute flight and rest
The universal blue
And local green suggest.


MoQ-Two

Dedicated to Robert M. Pirsig

Would that our waves could interfere,
Co-aware we might mingle here,
Being superposed, find per chance,
One more us, multiversed in stance,
Just in harmony truly stand,
Realizing synthesis too grand.

Special events mark something new,
Flux dynamic urges stuff through,
Observation when we're aware,
Sees patterns and waves everywhere,
Tunnels open show us the way,
Virtual paths and tolls to pay.

Vacuum energy makes it work,
Classic truth says no, "Ether's quirk!"
Same people said, "The Earth is flat!"
Now they have to eat their hat,
Pay homage to paradigm shifts,
Ergo's selection extincts rifts.

Dump schisms, no biformal be,
Wide spectral senses set ye free,
Found Quality and Quanta dual,
Metaphysics', Mechanics' tool,
Enlightenment from MoQ-two's lore,
Intuit more than we did before.

Doug Renselle
1998

http://www.quantonics.com/Level_5_QTO_Poem_for_RMP_Quantum_Interpreted.html# tunnels1


Term from Poem


Quantum Interpretation of Term
waves

Waves are quantum systems whose complements may be particulate. Waves are the most primal of patterns in both MoQs. In some manner which is uncertain, waves manifest themselves at the boundary of the known and unknown. Waves then become the changeable constituents of static reality's ensembles.

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interfere

Interference — the unknown means of mixing of waves prior to the possible occurrence of quantum science's special events or their dual — Pirsig's New Philosophy Quality Events. A precursor to quantum science's quanton entanglement and MoQ's pattern latching.

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co-aware

Assumes waves can 'sense' each other. Where classical science observation is uni-aware, i.e., only the observer is aware, in quantum science waves and their duals — MoQ SPoVs — are co-aware. Co-awareness is a precursor to potential interference and entanglement and the concomitant special and Quality events.

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mingle

A result of interference of waves or patterns at special or Quality events. Also called entanglement or collapse of wave functions, or latching.

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superposed

The mixture of actualized and nonactualized waves and their multiversal complements.

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find

Indeterminate journey of special events.

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chance

Indeterminate outcome of observation and interference.

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multiversed

The Hugh Everett metaphor of quantum theory. Also known as the Many Worlds version of quantum theory. Part of the justification for Pirsig's MoQ's many truths.

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in stance

A metaphorical latching or standing after special events. Standing waves are metaphors for waves which latch after special events.

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harmony

Mixed waves are harmonious/disharmonious and may harmonize/disharmonize with others. Emerging reality may be the harmony/disharmony of all standing mixed quantum wave systems. Devolving reality may be the disharmony/harmony of quantum wave systems.

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stand

Mixed, harmonic wave systems which 'latch' we say, "stand realizing synthesis too grand"

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realizing

Latching, becoming real, standing quantum wave systems 'observed' in our universe.

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synthesis

Both/and, creation, unification, Gestalt, syncretism, interpenetration. This interpretation is more complex than a classical static pattern synthesis, but reflects ongoing change and dynamic synthesis by special events at all levels of quantum systems.

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special events

The quantum dual of MoQ's Quality Events. Special events according to quantonics theory are omnidirectional (omnispatial). However, addled SOM-think endowed us two directional perspectives:

1. The latching or emerging actualization direction special events.
2. The unlatching or deemerging deactualization direction of special events.

Most authors only see and describe the first direction, a single direction of creation. See the links to the reality loops below under the term flux dynamic.

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flux dynamic

See the two reality loops:

1. MoQ I Reality Loop
2. MoQ II Reality Loop

Flux dynamic is shown in each of these loops as the change at the N-spatial surface among reality and its complement. In quantum science it is the surface among VES and real, entangled quantum systems which build our familiar reality. In Pirsig's MoQ it is the surface between unknown Dynamic Quality and known Static Quality.

Flux dynamic says that when reality differentiates (becomes the known) from the undifferentiated (the unknown) it keeps an unlimited complementary coupling to the undifferentiated, thus allowing the undifferentiated (in the li-la dance in concert with the differentiated) to continuously change the differentiated.

Please note that we limit the loops to Homo sapiens' finite dimensional perspective and that there are infinite instances of these loops ubiquitous in N-space continually changing reality.

In the first loop we use the following terms to describe the surface and the transformations which occur there:

1. Direct experience
2. First new experience
3. Edge of now
4. Quality Event
5. Surprise

In the second loop we use the following terms to describe the surface and transformations:

1. Special event
2. Entanglement
3. Observation
4. Choice
5. Measurement

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observation

An act of creation in the direction of emergence. An act of discreation in the direction of deemergence. Analogs are measurement, choice, etc. Observation values the preconditions of the current iteration of the Reality Loops described under the term dynamic flux described above.

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patterns

Within Pirsig's MoQ these are real patterns, or known patterns. Pirsig reveres this term by uniquely attaching it to known reality's Static Patterns of Value. In Pirsig's MoQ SPoVs are everything that we know: things, songs, music, art, intellectual patterns, etc. His MoQ disallows us from using any patterns to describe the unknown, or what he calls Dynamic Quality, because DQ is undefinable — not within the scope of pattern assessment by finite intellect.

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tunnels

In this poem the word tunnels has a uniquely quantum semantic. In quantum science tunneling is a crucial quantum act of borrowing energy to perform seemingly impossible acts. We can see tunneling in the real world in wave energy of water that appears to penetrate barriers. Modern solid state physics depends on tunneling for viable solid state electronic devices. It is said the universe we know could not exist without tunneling. Tunneling is the ability for quantum systems to penetrate barriers. Metaphorically it is one's ability to see through and move through apparently impossible barriers.

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virtual paths

Tunneling uses virtual paths. Superluminal communication uses virtual paths. Metaphorically a virtual path is direct with no impediments or latencies. In the MoQ DQ has virtual paths to all of SQ, i.e., the unknown has virtual paths to all of the known. In Quantonics we like to think the other direction is open to us, too, if we can only find it.

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vacuum energy

Vacuum energy is the quantum science dual of Pirsig's MoQ's DQ or Dynamic Quality, AKA the unknown. It occupies VES or vacuum energy space. VE probably got its first physical science confirmation via the Casimir effect. VE shows an incredible energy density of approximately 10^93 grams per cubic centimeter. Now consider that our known universe has 10^80 atoms and an average atom (say 58 nucleons) has an energy density of 10^-28 grams, then the mass-energy of our universe is roughly 10^52 grams. The implication is that VES has enough energy in one cubic centimeter of volume to create 10^41 of our universes! Now that is simply incredible! If that does not fill you with awe, nothing can!

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ether

Ether is the classical term for VES. The term and concept of ether was rejected by classical science as a ruse. The reason is the wrong-headedness that derives from SOM thinking. VES cannot exist, in fact is prohibited in an 'objective' reality. Quantum science brought it back to the fore of physical understanding of our interpretation of reality.

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paradigm shifts

Thomas Kuhn's term for revolutionary changes in complex systems.

In Quantonics and Pirsig's MoQ we see the selection process moving gradually toward 'better' until no small, incremental changes are possible. At that point true paradigm shifts may occur.

In Quantonics and Pirsig's MoQ we see the need for both: gradual improvement and less frequently, massive change. Reality appears to provide some balance of the two and lesser and greater variations on each.

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ergo

Ergo is used as a 'therefore' producing a selection which values preconditions of rifts or schisms mended by change, in particular change imposed upon Static Quality by Dynamic Quality.

Ergo in Quantonics is not causal, but probabilistic. Ergo is kin to change by both chance and choice.

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schisms

Schisms are SOM-entropy, the leavings of SOM-think. SOM relies on dichotomous- and centric-thinking techniques intrinsic to the Subject-Object schism at the apex of SOM philosophy.

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spectral senses

If we see reality in its most quantum scientific interpretation, everything is waves. So we can infer that reality is an infinite spectrum. The poem says we are 'better' if we have, "wide[r] spectral senses [that] set ye free..." The wider our spectral senses, the more we see, the more we are free.

But that is just one perspective. Seeing too much may garner sensory overload. So 'better' includes emergence of more capable beings with wider spectral senses. Consider your current finite spectral sensing abilities.

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dual

Complementary alikeness of concepts. Pirsig's MoQ is very much like the Mechanics of Quanta. In Quantonics we see the MoQ as the parent philosophy of quantum science, so it is not exactly a dual, but the MoQ descriptions of reality appear as duals of quantum science's descriptions of reality.

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tool

Quantum science is a tool of the physicists for understanding physical reality. MoQ is a tool of philosophers for understanding metaphysical reality. In Quantonics we believe that these dual tools provide a kind of double-entry bookkeeping which permits a kind of co-validation and co-verification of the other.

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[yinon]

Why dont you just start a thread called 'for me,' and post to that, it only takes one or two clicks to delete you, but forum managers dont like doing that simply (well not really) because it plays havoc with threads, now I am not being discriminatory, I believe that, I also believe you are playing havoc with threads that people can learn from ......

Here's why

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interfere

Interference — the unknown means of mixing of waves prior to the possible occurrence of quantum science's special events or their dual — Pirsig's New Philosophy Quality Events. A precursor to quantum science's quanton entanglement and MoQ's pattern latching.

[the festival spirit]

LOL

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vacuum energy

Vacuum energy is the quantum science dual of Pirsig's MoQ's DQ or Dynamic Quality, AKA the unknown. It occupies VES or vacuum energy space. VE probably got its first physical science confirmation via the Casimir effect. VE shows an incredible energy density of approximately 10^93 grams per cubic centimeter. Now consider that our known universe has 10^80 atoms and an average atom (say 58 nucleons) has an energy density of 10^-28 grams, then the mass-energy of our universe is roughly 10^52 grams. The implication is that VES has enough energy in one cubic centimeter of volume to create 10^41 of our universes! Now that is simply incredible! If that does not fill you with awe, nothing can!



Wow three nods.

[tickles]

My advice to you is that if you want to truley experience an sipirtual awakening then get a good bunch of trusted friends around you and gou out to the beach and drop some LSD. That my friend will really open your eyes and your mind t0 infinite love and the mysteries of the world.

That is just my opinion!. But it is an opinion that i really do believe every body should experience at least once in this life time.

Chow for now.

[ngawaka19]

What a shame you chased everyone away Yinon.

Spiritual Awakening.....? Probably the momentwhen you work out the difference between the Soul and the Ego.

[edit]

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 189564
6/15/2007 10:04 AM Re: Formula for Physical Immortality Quote

The Impersonal Life - Chapter - The Masters

You, who are still holding to the idea, taught in various teachings, that I will provide a "Master" or Divine Teacher for each aspirant towards union with Me, hear My Words.

It is true I have permitted you in the past to delve into all kinds of mystical and occult books and teachings, encouraging your secret desire to acquire the powers necessary to attain this union extolled in such teachings, even to the extent of quickening in you some slight consciousness of the possession of such powers.

I have even permitted the belief that by practicing certain exercises, breathing in a certain way, and saying certain mantrams, you might attract to you a "Master" from the unseen, who would become your teacher and help you to prepare for certain initiations that would admit you into an advanced Degree, in some secret Order in the inner planes of existence, where much of My Divine Wisdom would be opened up to you.

I have not only permitted these things, but, if you can see it, it was I who led you to these books, inspired in you such desire, and caused such belief to find lodgment in your mind; -- but not for the purpose you imagine.

Yes, I have brought you through all these teachings, desires and beliefs, trying to point out to your human mind the Forces I use to bring into expression My Divine Idea.

I have portrayed these Forces as heavenly Hierarchies, and that your human intellect might the better comprehend, I pictured them as Angels or Divine Beings, Impersonal agents or executors of My Will, engaged in the process of bringing into expression My Idea that was in the beginning.
But you did not understand.

Your human intellect, enamored of the possibility of meeting and communing with one of these beings, as claimed in some of the teachings, proceeded at once to personalize Them, and began to long for Their appearance in your life, imagining that They are interested in your human affairs, and that by living in accordance with certain rules set down in certain teachings, you could propitiate Them so They would help you to gain Nirvana or Immortality.

Now I have purposely permitted you to indulge yourself with such delusions, letting you long, and pray, and strive earnestly to obey all the instructions given; even leading you on, sometimes, by giving you glimpses, in self-induced visions and dreams, of ideal beings, which I permitted you to believe were such "Masters."

I may even have caused to open in you certain faculties, which make it possible for you to sense the presence of personalities that have passed into the spirit side of life, and who have been attracted by your desires and seek to fulfill the part of Master and Guide to you.

Now the time has come for you to know that such beings are not Masters, also that Divine Beings do not call themselves Masters; that I, and I alone, your own Real Self, AM the only Master for you now, and until you are able to know Me also in your brother; --
That any being, either in human or spirit form, that presents himself to your consciousness and claims to be a Master, or who permits you to call him Master, is nothing more nor less than a personality, the same as yours, and therefore is not Divine, as your human mind understands that term, despite the many wonderful "truths" he may utter, and the "marvelous" things he may do.

Just so long as your human mind seeks or worships the idea of a Master in any other being, no matter how lofty or sacred he may seem to you, just so long will you be fed with such ideas; until, verily, I may perhaps, permit you to meet and commune with such a "Master."

If that "privilege" is vouchsafed you, it will be only in order to hasten your awakening and your consequent disillusionment, when you will learn that "Master" is indeed but a personality, even though far more advanced in awakening than you, but still a personality - and not the Divine One your innermost Soul is yearning for you to know.
The Impersonal Life.... On-Line Book
[link to pure-research.net]

The Masters
[link to pure-research.net]


Anonymous Coward
User ID: 189564
6/15/2007 11:18 AM Re: Formula for Physical Immortality Quote

Out of the SILENCE.... SOUNDS WILL COME.... FOLLOW THE SOUND..... these are NOT WORDING MANTRAS... these are SOUNDS....

The SOUNDS.... will CARRY YOU.... to the No-Sound... and answer your quesion.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 189564
6/16/2007 6:51 AM Re: Formula for Physical Immortality Quote

Sooooooooooooooooooo.





Formula for Physical Immortality of..godlikeproductions.com/ (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=400419&mpage=1&showdate=6/16/07&forum=1)
The Impersonal

and.. btw... even this can be too much for a person....

Identifying Immune System Mediators

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Identifying Immune System Mediators

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...In another major breakthrough, scientists have discovered the importance of a substance called citrulline as a target for immune attack in rheumatoid arthritis (RA). This immune system antibody associated with rheumatoid arthritis recognizes citrulline, which seems to be a key player in the condition. Indeed, the HLA associations with RA have now been shown by Dr. Gregersen and others to directly regulate the immune response to proteins containing citrulline
Laboratories have developed a test to measure for anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide antibody, or anti-CCP. It is now being used as a diagnostic for rheumatoid arthritis. Scientists are now finding that patients have CCP antibodies months or years prior to the illness, suggesting a way to identify the disease before it starts and perhaps offer treatments to stave off the symptoms. It turns out that those with these antibodies who also have a particular variety of HLA, a complex of genes that regulate immune function, have a 30 times higher risk of developing rheumatoid arthritis than those without these genetic risk factors. ...

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[auron]

Interesting post there Edit. :)