where can i read the lisbon treaty

[jonge]

hey guys,

im from ireland and im new to all this stuff. can someone tell me where i can find a copy of the lisbon treaty id like to read. and also can you guys tell me where the bad stuff of the treaty is, so as i dont have to read it all:) ?

cheers,

Jon

[lhaull]

Treaty of Lisbon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lots of details and at the very bottom has links to the old treats and the new.

I hope Ireland kicks it again if forced to another referendum.

[thebarfly1]

hey guys,

im from ireland and im new to all this stuff. can someone tell me where i can find a copy of the lisbon treaty id like to read. and also can you guys tell me where the bad stuff of the treaty is, so as i dont have to read it all:) ?

cheers,

Jon

You might be able to get a copy of the consolidated text (lisbon treaty articles merged into context with the treaties they are altering) if you get in touch with Libertas www.libertas.org - i volunteered for them for the first referendum and they were giving them out free, so they might still have a few lying about...

[thebarfly1]

A few tidbits re: eu army, global governance (integration) from the Treaty Of Lisbon

GENERAL PROVISIONS ON THE UNION'S EXTERNAL ACTION
24) The following new Chapter 1 and Articles 10 A and 10 B shall be inserted:
‘CHAPTER 1
GENERAL PROVISIONS ON THE UNION'S EXTERNAL ACTION
Article 10 A
1. The Union's action on the international scene shall be guided by the principles which
have inspired its own creation, development and enlargement, and which it seeks to advance in
the wider world: democracy, the rule of law, the universality and indivisibility of human rights
and fundamental freedoms, respect for human dignity, the principles of equality and solidarity,
and respect for the principles of the United Nations Charter and international law.
The Union shall seek to develop relations and build partnerships with third countries, and
international, regional or global organisations which share the principles referred to in the first
subparagraph. It shall promote multilateral solutions to common problems, in particular in the
framework of the United Nations.
2. The Union shall define and pursue common policies and actions, and shall work for a
high degree of cooperation in all fields of international relations, in order to:
(a) safeguard its values, fundamental interests, security, independence and integrity;
(b) consolidate and support democracy, the rule of law, human rights and the principles of
international law;
(c) preserve peace, prevent conflicts and strengthen international security, in accordance with
the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter, with the principles of the
Helsinki Final Act and with the aims of the Charter of Paris, including those relating to
external borders;
17.12.2007 EN Official Journal of the European Union C 306/23
(d) foster the sustainable economic, social and environmental development of developing
countries, with the primary aim of eradicating poverty;
(e) encourage the integration of all countries into the world economy, including through the
progressive abolition of restrictions on international trade;
(f) help develop international measures to preserve and improve the quality of the
environment and the sustainable management of global natural resources, in order to
ensure sustainable development;
(g) assist populations, countries and regions confronting natural or man-made disasters; and
(h) promote an international system based on stronger multilateral cooperation and good
global governance.


‘Article 10 C
The Union's action on the international scene, pursuant to this Chapter, shall be guided by the
principles, shall pursue the objectives of, and be conducted in accordance with, the general
provisions laid down in Chapter 1.’.
27) Article 11 shall be amended as follows:
(a) paragraph 1 shall be replaced by the following two paragraphs:
‘1. The Union's competence in matters of common foreign and security policy shall
cover all areas of foreign policy and all questions relating to the Union's security, including
the progressive framing of a common defence policy that might lead to a common
defence.
The common foreign and security policy is subject to specific rules and procedures. It
shall be defined and implemented by the European Council and the Council acting
unanimously, except where the Treaties provide otherwise. The adoption of legislative acts
shall be excluded. The common foreign and security policy shall be put into effect by the
High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy and by Member
States, in accordance with the Treaties. The specific role of the European Parliament and
of the Commission in this area is defined by the Treaties. The Court of Justice of the
European Union shall not have jurisdiction with respect to these provisions, with the
exception of its jurisdiction to monitor compliance with Article 25b of this Treaty and to
review the legality of certain decisions as provided for by the second paragraph of
Article 240a of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

These are a few bits a extracted to post on a blog a few months ago, you see that there are provisions for creating a EU army and intentions to allow further integration with "third countries", sprinkled on top with the words "global governance".

Ireland military neutrality WILL be affected by the treaty, if you look up the "Solidarity Clause" it is stated that in the event of a "Terrorist Attack" (or impending attack), or natural distaster or such, that all countries within the EU will be obliged to provide Military assistance to the best of their powers. There are no exclusions for any countries in regards to this clause, so it is a definite loophole around Irelands exemption from joining the common defence force.

Then there's article 48, which gives the EU Council the authority to change any aspect of the treaty post-ratification, without public consultation or referenda, which, in essence, means that the entire document could be altered the day after it is passed, despite what public opinion may be.

The EU charter of human rights, which becomes Law under the lisbon treaty, also has provisions for the introduction of the death penalty in times of war or unrest, but times of war or unrest are not defined.

There are also provisions for the harmonization of all "Indirect" taxation, which would mean that VAT, excise duties etc would be harmonized under the treaty. Income tax would NOT be affected, however article 48 gives the Council the power to change this as they see fit.

I had an awful lot more information around here somewhere, if i find it i'll post it for you. However, irish law prohibits us from voting on the same text twice, so if or when the lisbon treaty returns, there will have to be changes made to it.