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roxanna222
29-05-2007, 12:36 AM
Hello all.... Im a parent with a school aged child. Her school is harrassing me due to her lastest vaccine. I will not have her vaccinated anymore. I did before not knowing the harmful thing that it was. Thanks to a special friend who assisted in my awakening I now see the danger. I will not have her vaccinated again. Ive tried to stall the schools inquest into this. Ive given them prints of what vaccinations really are and Im now a target. Or rather I should say Im defending the target, my little one. I have had her out of school for over a week now. Im hard pressed at what to do. My question goes out to all others on this forum who have children and how do they handle the pressures applied via the system for vaccinations of our kids. What have you done and how? Im needing new ideas please. I feel the pressure mounting here and Im looking to you all for whatever suggestions or feedback you can give me in this fight.
Thank you in advance for any response. Bless and Cheers!

shadow cat
29-05-2007, 01:01 AM
Roxanna, you have made a very brave decision and I applaud you for it!!
I had my daughter fully vaccinated to the extent she ended up like a wee pin cushion, and I have felt guilty ever since :-(
I'm not sure about how to handle the school thing, but I'm sure there are people on this forum who know something about this. Hang in there...we are with you all the way.
Home schooling could be the thing?? Anyway I'll leave it for the ones who know more about this.
Much Love coming your way for you and your daughter!! xxxx

roxanna222
29-05-2007, 01:34 AM
Ahhh your words are so kind. Thank you. I do feel guilty too for the vaccinacions already done. But no more will be. I do plan on moving to my love in another country very shortly and there I will home school. In fact these days shes been off school I have tutored her. Luckily shes so smart its an easy task somewhat. Her reading and writing and other skills up to par with the others if not more in that she does it in two languages. I really need advice here though and hope others on this forum with children can help. I know Icke's youngest never vaccinated I wish I could here how he did that considering pressures from the system. Bless Cheers and many thanks cat

lookfar
29-05-2007, 02:20 AM
Hey roxanna :)

Good on ya honey for making such a brave decision. I'm in the same boat with my little man. He's 5 & totally uptodate on the bloody things at the moment, as I wasn't awake at the time & still kicking myself about it. I'd literally just started learning about it just 2 weeks after his last shots. BUT & that's a very big BUT, he's never having anymore that's for sure!!:eek:

I know they can't force us into it, it's not law as they want us to believe (I'm sure I read somewhere on here a while ago that there is a get-out clause you can sign or something so that they can't be sued if something goes wrong?) It's worth looking back on here for some info as there definitely was some... I'm also very interested to hear how others have overcome this too...

Best of luck with it all, you're doing a grand job!!:) Sending you both lots of love :)

tinmenace
29-05-2007, 02:47 AM
Yes Roxanna, this is how they force you onto the grid, and reward you by making you life easier if you comply. If you fight and refuse to snap to grid, you have mountains of obstacles to cross.

Have you consulted with a doctor? Maybe you could find a sympathetic doctor that will write some kind of note that will excuse your daughter? I know that sounds lame, but it's worth a try?

All these diseases they vaccinate for are already eradicated, so I don't understand the need for them.

What are the consequences if you point blank refuse, and threaten them with a lawsuit if they bring a vaccine near your child?

roxanna222
29-05-2007, 02:55 AM
I could lose her. The school can alert authorities who will then take her into their custody. I am in the process of finding a medic who will forge the papers. Not alot of faith in that. I dont know. I cant let them take her I can poison her either. This is a hard spot. How did Icke do this with his kid I wonder. Anyone know?

roxanna222
29-05-2007, 02:59 AM
Lookfar its law here. Law. So I dont know. Im thinking of taking her out of school all together as we will move soon. But Im worried my mother here will raise a legal fit. Its a worry I tell you. I just want others know how on all of this. As for your baby, well you didnt know and I didnt we do now so get ready girl they will be on your ass soon. Sucks but hey.

lookfar
29-05-2007, 03:03 AM
Lookfar its law here. Law. So I dont know. Im thinking of taking her out of school all together as we will move soon. But Im worried my mother here will raise a legal fit. Its a worry I tell you. I just want others know how on all of this. As for your baby, well you didnt know and I didnt we do now so get ready girl they will be on your ass soon. Sucks but hey.

Hey you're not gonna lose her rox, stay strong & you'll all be fine, you're doing good. Probably best to get your asses outta there & get to a country where it isn't law (even if they want you to believe it is!) You can always try the doctor route, claim she's illergic to whats in the vaccs or something along those lines, it's certainly worth a try...

Reckon home schooling is the answer if you get refused entry into schools etc, but it might not come to that.

limelady
29-05-2007, 03:14 AM
Hey roxanna, in your country does your law allow for "conscientious objection" on the basis of religion? I know in some countries this is the case. You can get a doctor to sign a form that to vaccinate is against your religion (like the Jahovah's Witnesses) and it is then legal and binding agreement.

I'm so sorry you are faced with this terrible stress. But there may be a way round this yet.

If it meant the difference between being forced to vaccinate or not, this may be something you could consider (i.e.becoming 'converted' over-night to a religion).....desperate times sometimes call for desperate measures, and
you can always un-convert later can't you ;)

Keep your chin up and stay strong. :)

tru3
29-05-2007, 03:45 AM
is home schooling an option?

maybe you could find 2-3 other like minded families, pool your resources.

king
29-05-2007, 08:15 AM
is there an exempt form that you can fill in?
ask your school
tell them it is on religious basis.
if you do not have a religion -- make one.

i do not know where you are geographically but here some ideas:

http://www.dph.state.ct.us/BCH/infectiousdise/pdf/Religious_Exemption_Form.pdf

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm
Vaccine Exemption Forms
Online - by State or Country
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html

here is for example content of California exempt form:


California - http://www.gval.com/legal.htm (California Health and Safety Code Section 120365). This is the "personal beliefs" exemption in California law.

The exemption is fairly easy to exercise. Each student in California is required to submit a "California School Immunization Record" to be admitted to school (California Health and Safety Code Section 12-375).

On the reverse of the form is the following statement: "I hereby request exemption of the child, named in the front, from the immunization requirements for school/child care center entry because these immunizations are contrary to my beliefs. I understand that in case of an outbreak of any of these diseases, the child may be temporarily excluded from school for his/her protection." To exercise the exemption, you simply sign the immunization record under this statement.

There is another exemption which is available, although it is more difficult to exercise because a medical opinion is necessary. If immunization is "contraindicated", that is, considered to be potentially harmful to the child for medical reasons, an exemption is granted upon the filing with of "a written statement by a licensed physician to the effect that the physical condition of the child is such, or medical circumstances relating to the child are such, that immunization is not considered safe, indicating the specific nature and probable duration of the medical condition or circumstances that contraindicate immunization..." (California Health and Safety Code Section 120370).


here is NY form:

http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/sss/HealthServices/requestreligiousexemptimmunization.htm

melbo
29-05-2007, 09:03 AM
I had my children vaccinated as I didn't know any better at the time. Which vaccinations are they wanting to give her? Could you say there's autism in the family, and you don't want to risk her getting it?

My daughter had a booster injection and a couple of months had a tetanus injection, then her whole arm swelled up because they were given too close together and she had to have antibiotics. Now they say she can never have another tetanus injection as she's allergic.

I do feel for you, but I don't think its worth risking losing your daughter over this. Good luck!