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viginti tres
28-05-2007, 07:11 AM
Hey people and how is everyone, good I hope.

I've noticed lately a few things that are disturbing to behold on a forum full of so-called open-minded persons. We are all intelligent human beings here from various cultures and backrounds that have come together to have an OPEN and informed discussion about the topics we care so much
about....right? So what is with this aggresive attitude that like a virus is sweeping the forum.....

Since when did anyone have all the answers, I'll tell ya when....NEVER, we don't know it all, no-one does and thats what keeps us going right? The hunger and search for truth, for love, for the devine, for the tools that shall help our brothers and sisters, or to whatever reason your search for knowledge began........so what do we all desire, what is that thing that in our hearts we know to be an ABSOLUTE truth.....Freedom right? The freedom to think, to say, to do and to BELIEVE in whatever we so choose.

Who are we to question one's path, who are we if not tyrants for doing such things. If someone believes something trully in their heart,than you can give them volumes upon volumes of information aimed at de-bunking them and there beliefs, and what becomes of it...hostility, division and mindless bickering that achieves nothing except discovering those that run on ego auto-pilot.

I don't care by what name you call God, I don't care if you believe in God or not, I don't care if you choose to eat meat, are vegan, ingest ORME's or think that by grabbing your hair and whistling while singing lacucaracha is the key to enlightenment, I don't care because that is your choice and we all see things differently. The philosophy of do as I say and as I see it is one of tyrants and close-minded fools, the pholosophy of do what you will as long as it comes to no harm to yourself or others is a sign that one has grown wise to one's surrounding.

I'm going to end this with two words that fit perfectly in the "no this is how it is, cause I know, 'cause I read it, and the way I see it is the way it is and your ways evil cause I say so,and my ways the only way and you gotta follow me bla bla bla, demented and dangerous perspective


GROW UP!

ho1ogram
28-05-2007, 08:55 AM
Them's fighting words.

Who are we to question one's path, who are we if not tyrants for doing such things. I guess 'we' are people who question and challenge each other. Nobody has to respond to a challenge, that is freedom, the freedom to walk away.

What sort of union do you want? If we are united with one mind then we are sheep.

turquoisefyre
28-05-2007, 10:15 AM
If we are united with one mind then we are sheep.

but only if that one mind is aligned with the NWO's concepts of us.

viginti tres
28-05-2007, 11:17 AM
Them's fighting words.

I guess 'we' are people who question and challenge each other. Nobody has to respond to a challenge, that is freedom, the freedom to walk away.

What sort of union do you want? If we are united with one mind then we are sheep.

Wow thankyou for that display of idiocy, take one quote totally out of context and use that as your reply....childish.....if you had even an increment of common sense you would realise that by saying that I obviously meant that THOSE THAT TRY AND TELL OTHERS WHAT TO BELIEVE ARE SHOWING THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A TYRANT AND AN ABSOLUTE FOOL....(hmmmm sounds more like the NWO agenda than what I had to say, telling others they are wrong....don't believe that believe this, 'cause I know, pfft) if someone believes something that you don't agree with and you tell them that they can't believe it or that they are wrong etc. etc. than that is bullying and ego flaring at its most toxic and that is what I was talking about, which I made absolutely crystal clear in my post. So I'll repeat the last words of that post so it sinks in for you GROW UP.

If we are united with love (not one mind as I have not said this anywhere in my post, nor did I allude to such a thing EVER and I don't even know how you could get such a thing from united we stand, maybe if I said united we stand as ONE MIND than perhaps you might have a point, was I not just saying that people should be free to believe what they want, that does not sound like fascist thinking to me), as many FREE minds who are FREE to BELIEVE in what they choose without judgment, prejudice and the ego of others claiming they know better from intruding, and trying to change the world and the opinions and beliefs of others into their opinions than we will have a chance at true peace.

When we stop this immature and ridiculous, childish and downright fucking annoying display of inflamed ego's and when you can see that we must ACCEPT people no matter how their beliefs contradict with your own than we have a fighting chance. The failure to recognise that people will believe whatever they want to, and that you can't change others and the failure to let people be are the exact traits of the Illuminati we all despise so much, is it not?

Yeah we are here to question, we are here to find answers and to affirm that which we think to be true and we do have the freedom to walk away, but not from our own threads, and those are not fighting words, not even close unless ofcourse you fit perfectly the fool I speak of.....

ho1ogram
28-05-2007, 12:14 PM
"Thems fighting words" was a joke.

Okay you want everyone to be united in love not as one mind, point taken.

People do have the freedom to walk away on their own threads, just ignore the posts you want and respond to the ones you wish to.

If you feel there are tyrants and bully's on here, why don't you point them out on the threads?

How far do you want me to grow up? What is acceptable behaviour for you that you would like me to display?

The reason I am bringing these points up is because freedom is a personal thing. How would you like me to express myself?

Ian2day
28-05-2007, 01:25 PM
Hey people and how is everyone, good I hope.

I've noticed lately a few things that are disturbing to behold on a forum full of so-called open-minded persons. We are all intelligent human beings here from various cultures and backrounds that have come together to have an OPEN and informed discussion about the topics we care so much
about....right? So what is with this aggresive attitude that like a virus is sweeping the forum.....

Since when did anyone have all the answers, I'll tell ya when....NEVER, we don't know it all, no-one does and thats what keeps us going right? The hunger and search for truth, for love, for the devine, for the tools that shall help our brothers and sisters, or to whatever reason your search for knowledge began........so what do we all desire, what is that thing that in our hearts we know to be an ABSOLUTE truth.....Freedom right? The freedom to think, to say, to do and to BELIEVE in whatever we so choose.

Who are we to question one's path, who are we if not tyrants for doing such things. If someone believes something trully in their heart,than you can give them volumes upon volumes of information aimed at de-bunking them and there beliefs, and what becomes of it...hostility, division and mindless bickering that achieves nothing except discovering those that run on ego auto-pilot.

I don't care by what name you call God, I don't care if you believe in God or not, I don't care if you choose to eat meat, are vegan, ingest ORME's or think that by grabbing your hair and whistling while singing lacucaracha is the key to enlightenment, I don't care because that is your choice and we all see things differently. The philosophy of do as I say and as I see it is one of tyrants and close-minded fools, the pholosophy of do what you will as long as it comes to no harm to yourself or others is a sign that one has grown wise to one's surrounding.

I'm going to end this with two words that fit perfectly in the "no this is how it is, cause I know, 'cause I read it, and the way I see it is the way it is and your ways evil cause I say so,and my ways the only way and you gotta follow me bla bla bla, demented and dangerous perspective


GROW UP!

Be the change you want to see in the world:rolleyes:

eternal_spirit
28-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Them's fighting words.

I guess 'we' are people who question and challenge each other. Nobody has to respond to a challenge, that is freedom, the freedom to walk away.

What sort of union do you want? If we are united with one mind then we are sheep.

I agree. If anyone truly believes and thinks they're right in what they do, why would they let what others say or think bother them.

You can't hold onto the same belief systems if you know someone has valid points which can make you see the error of certain beliefs.

I may upset people from time to time, but it's because I'm trying to warn them of the dangers and pitfalls some beliefs can bring into you're life, some of this is from my own mistakes and personal experiences. My intention is not to offend.

tru3
28-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Wow thankyou for that display of idiocy

boom. ya had me, then ya lost me. :(

baron von lotsov
28-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Quote "Who are we to question one's path"

We define ourselves by what we stand for. I have had many arguments and quite fierce ones sometimes with people getting sucked into the occult or some mind control cult or other. They nearly always hang onto their beliefs like a matter of life or death, such is their brainwashing. Then sometime later the brainwashing can snap. I often get people full of praise for what I helped them to get out of, even though at the time they were full of insults towards me.