Did Ian Huntley really murder Holly and Jess

[meksar]

Do you remeber the Soham murders real this is an legitimate alternative perspective on them



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoX2rvnMBI

[jakeuk999]

Yes dude I believe he did, just by looking at the news footage of him interviewed before they realised. My instinct says he was the killer. But I'm always open minded on these heavily publicised storys. What do you think then?

[rhydra]

I had started wondering when he said about how it was unfeasable that Huntley burned the clothes and put the fire out etc. But I realised that Maxine Carr admitted to persuading him to burn the bodies and the fact that the caller started quoting from the bible made me thing "hmmm.":rolleyes:

[spiraltrance]

I think it was him. He had form for rape as well and was the last person to see them alive.

[diamond dogs]

I think it was him. He had form for rape as well and was the last person to see them alive.


Reported last sightings of Jessica and Holly:

18.15 - Two girls wearing red tops were seen walking along the main road between school and the town centre, though police were reported not to be treating this as a confirmed sighting.

18.17 - CCTV cameras at the Ross Peers sports centre, on a nearby college campus, showed the girls crossing the centre's car park. They were seen entering the car park via an alleyway, Gidney Lane, from the main road, Sand Street.


Approx. 18.30 - There were four separate sightings of the pair walking along Sand Street towards the town centre, but the time given by the witnesses may not be accurate. However, four separate witnesses are not likely to be equally far out, so the timing should be approximately accurate.

Approx. 18.30 - Staff at the sports centre say that the girls came in at around this time to buy sweets from a vending machine in the entrance lobby.

18.45 - Staff at the centre believed that the girls left the college grounds via College Way, and the next confirmed sighting was at 1845 in the town centre nearby.

Four separate witnesses saw the pair in the vicinity of the town's war memorial, in Red Lion square, by the High Street.

One more witness reported seeing two girls fitting the description of Holly and Jessica at the southern end of Soham, a considerable distance from the town centre.

19.00 - The girls were reportedly seen at 1900 on the A142, near the Q8 garage, at the Downfield Roundabout, walking south in the direction of Newmarket. The police said that this report is unconfirmed at this stage. This sighting however corresponds in direction and place with the car incident reported by taxi driver Ian Webster.

These sightings correspond with Ian Huntley's witness statement. The trail goes progressively away from his house.

[cruise4]

The second post down on this thread is interesting re. Huntley:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1979

This was a very weird case I thought. Whilst he supposedly had form, patsies for this kind of thing would have to. Doesn't mean he did it this time, but does make for an instant public acceptance of the situation.

[who elsie]

Do you remeber the Soham murders real this is an legitimate alternative perspective on them


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoX2rvnMBI

This is a really interesting case and I'm surprised it's not been discussed much on here before, maybe it has, but I've not seen anything about it.

I read this interview and heard Dave Stabuck's account of the incident some years ago and it convinced me then that there is no way that Ian Huntley murdered those girls. He was clearly set up, due to his less than perfect track record (by the way, he was never convicted of any sex offences). He then underwent intensive mind-control programming prior to the trial to mix up his mind.

The murders were most likely carried out by members of the American military - whose base is adjacent to the land where the girls' bodies were found. In fact, the bodies were found right next to the perimeter fence of the base, not buried in a forest in the middle of nowhere, as we were led to believe by the media. Why would Ian Huntley drive all the way out there, then dump the bodies next to the military base perimeter fence that has security patrols around it 24/7? The military connection to the case was never mentioned on ANY mainstream news and the whole court-case was a sham. There was virtually no forensic evidence at all to link Huntley to their disappearance, but the intensive mind-control techniques had the desired affect on Huntley, as he clearly was not the same person at the trial as he was when arrested and confessed to things he could not have done.

Dean Warwick was an amazing individual, who clearly paid the price for what he knew, when he died in bizarre circumstances at a UFO conference, when about to reveal some earth-shattering secrets (there are other threads on that in these forums, so I won't go over that.)

[marpat]

This is a really interesting case and I'm surprised it's not been discussed much on here before, maybe it has, but I've not seen anything about it.

I read this interview and heard Dave Stabuck's account of the incident some years ago and it convinced me then that there is no way that Ian Huntley murdered those girls. He was clearly set up, due to his less than perfect track record (by the way, he was never convicted of any sex offences). He then underwent intensive mind-control programming prior to the trial to mix up his mind.

The murders were most likely carried out by members of the American military - whose base is adjacent to the land where the girls' bodies were found. In fact, the bodies were found right next to the perimeter fence of the base, not buried in a forest in the middle of nowhere, as we were led to believe by the media. Why would Ian Huntley drive all the way out there, then dump the bodies next to the military base perimeter fence that has security patrols around it 24/7? The military connection to the case was never mentioned on ANY mainstream news and the whole court-case was a sham. There was virtually no forensic evidence at all to link Huntley to their disappearance, but the intensive mind-control techniques had the desired affect on Huntley, as he clearly was not the same person at the trial as he was when arrested and confessed to things he could not have done.

Dean Warwick was an amazing individual, who clearly paid the price for what he knew, when he died in bizarre circumstances at a UFO conference, when about to reveal some earth-shattering secrets (there are other threads on that in these forums, so I won't go over that.)


Sorry but are talking shit. If you think the American did it then let us have some real proof not just some weak accusation. If you knew anything about large military bases you might understand that they are not swarming with patrols all the time. Dont you think that if they did do it that they might actually have disposed of the bodies in a far more efficient manner? if they were just dumped maybe Huntely didnt want to hang around and get sussed out.

All you are trying to do here is to tie in some military involvement with this sick crime.

[who elsie]

Sorry but are talking shit. If you think the American did it then let us have some real proof not just some weak accusation. If you knew anything about large military bases you might understand that they are not swarming with patrols all the time. Dont you think that if they did do it that they might actually have disposed of the bodies in a far more efficient manner? if they were just dumped maybe Huntely didnt want to hang around and get sussed out.

All you are trying to do here is to tie in some military involvement with this sick crime.

I totally agree with you that it was a sick crime, but I'm certainly not just trying to tarnish the name of the American military - it just happened to be right outside the perimeter fence of an American base that the bodies were found. I have no proof of their involvement, of course, but you have to look at a case like this with suspiscian when all the media covers up the exact circumstances of the deaths. Their involvement, is only a possibility that should not be ignored in the search for the truth.

You have to look at it with an open mind and not just assume that everything the media tell us about the case is true. You have to admit, that it is truly bizarre that not a single fragment of dna or other forensic evidence was found at Huntley's house - the place where he is suposed to have murdered them. So when you look at all the evidence objectively you have to look at the possibility of someone else being responsible. I have no axe to grind with anyone - except the murdering bastard or bastards that did this horrendous thing.

[hagbard_celine]

All you are trying to do here is to tie in some military involvement with this sick crime.

I don't see what the occupation of the hypothgetical culprit has to do with anything:confused:. The fact was that a man accused of previous sex offences against children was at large in the area. He could have been a milkman or accountant; what difference would it make? If Who Elsie to had said
The murders were most likely carried out by members of an American Accountancy firm - whose offices are adjacent to the land where the girls' bodies were found
then this is not a slur against the entire accontancy profession!;)

But Huntley and Carr's trial was a farce. They were pilloried on TV the moment they were arrested and convited by the jury of the British public with The Sun as the spokesman of the jury. Remember the first hearing of the case in Peterborough? The TV coverage was not much different to that of I'm a Celebrity- Get Me Out of Here!

[michaelangelo]

The Trial of Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr Part 4: Updated

The Trial of Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr

[hagbard_celine]

Dave Starbuck does a brilliant CD lecture on Holly and Jessica.

http://www.revelationaudiovisual.com/

[who elsie]

Dave Starbuck does a brilliant CD lecture on Holly and Jessica.

http://www.revelationaudiovisual.com/

Yes, I intend to get this. What a great guy Dave Starbuck is too!

[hagbard_celine]

Yes, I intend to get this. What a great guy Dave Starbuck is too!


He's done some fascinating research. I see him every 6 months at the Probe Conference. You know he sends out newsletters and catalogues every month if you want them?:)

[who elsie]

He's done some fascinating research. I see him every 6 months at the Probe Conference. You know he sends out newsletters and catalogues every month if you want them?:)

Cheers. I already get his monthly newsletters and often a free disc, since ordering a dvd from him. Fantastic! :)

[queenofleon]

I cant watch these vids cos im at work...but I am so intrigued, cos like veryone I followed that case, and later read Holly's Dad's book *which will kill you!*

Can anyone outlign what this chap is saying for me please cos this has blown my mind. I NEVER imagined that Holly adn Jessica met a different fate than the one we think we know about.

[timelord]

Anyone seen this before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y-5qznj6wo&feature=related