PilotsFor 911 Truth and the Pentagon

[banoyes]

Pilots prove Flight 77 impossible - New Information
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7134448689829125037&hl=en
from http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10806
Everyone mail this to your represenitives

[lightgiver]

Pilots prove Flight 77 impossible - New Information
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7134448689829125037&hl=en
from http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10806
Everyone mail this to your represenitives

cheers for that bayones,i will watch that tomorrow,its a bit late now,night:) just at a glance i may have seen it,if its the same one,it is good video.

[oiram]

Where there is no more Divine Law there will never be Order!http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/bush-masks1.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1WHdViGycY

[helloperator]

Yeah but the official story has experts who say those experts are wrong.

See it all depends on the experts you hire.

[oiram]

Yeah but the official story has experts who say those experts are wrong.
See it all depends on the experts you hire.And how much they get paid for lying!

At least we know where our taxes are going!
They must have thousands of people on there payroll!

[lightgiver]

Pilots prove Flight 77 impossible - New Information
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7134448689829125037&hl=en
from http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10806
Everyone mail this to your represenitives

yes,good vid,i had not seen that one before:)

. A 757 reported to have caused the damage at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 is analysed based on topography, obstacles, flight data, physics, and witness statements. In order to accurately determine and understand the nature of the attack, Pilots For 9/11 Truth constructed a 3D scale model of the Arlington area complete with US Geological Survey Topography, obstacles, structures and vehicles. Based on flight data, physics and witness statements, we take you to Arlington on that fateful day, observing through the eyes of those who were there. We let the viewer determine if it is possible for a 757 to navigate such a region and cause the physical damage reported at the Pentagon. Many common arguments made by those who make excuse for and support the government story are also addressed

[qasrose]

Pilots prove Flight 77 impossible - New Information
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7134448689829125037&hl=en
from http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10806
Everyone mail this to your represenitives

Did you manage to read the description in the video this time :D:D

[banoyes]

Did you manage to read the description in the video this time :D:D
Something is wrong with you
Are you trying to get this sent to the rant room also
is your goal to bury information
You may be the worst poster on this site

[qasrose]

Something is wrong with you
Are you trying to get this sent to the rant room also
is your goal to bury information
You may be the worst poster on this site

Ha Ha,.. I'm perfectly fine dude.

Your the one with the problems... :p

[lightgiver]

Now,Now

http://www.911inplanesite.com/911synopsis.html


FBI Tells 911 Rescue Worker
To 'Shut Up' Over Finding
Airplane 'Black Boxes'

http://www.rense.com/general64/fbi.htm

http://thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/report.htm

1. Who overrode Flight 175's onboard computers?
Modern planes are complicated creatures that incorporate a whole slew of sophisticated technology. First among them, flight computers that instantly override any accidental brusque manoeuvres; you don't want your business-class customers slopping their Dom Perignon over their immaculate suits, just because the pilot sneezes at the wrong moment.

The banking manoeuvre we see here, just as flight 175 is about to slam into the South Tower, would have been overridden by the onboard flight computer. So somebody must have previously overridden the flight computers themselves.

Now, you don't override the onboard computers by physically switching them off or cutting a wire, as you'd lose control of the hydraulics and plummet like a stone. Hey, this is no lawnmower you're flying. You have to reload the software, which according to Boeing's own documentation takes a good 90 mins. just for the Integrated Display Units alone. United Airlines Flight 175 took off from Boston at 8:14 a.m. to hit the South Tower at 9:03 a.m., meaning that the software for flying the plane at close to Mach speed would have had to have been installed before take off!

Similarly odd behaviour was observed with Flight 77, which slammed into the Pentagon. Danielle O'Brien, air-traffic controller at Dulles airport, in Washington D.C., told ABC News, "At a speed of about 500 miles an hour, the plane was headed straight for what is known as P-56, protected air space 56, which covers the White House and the Capitol". As far as she and her colleagues were concerned, there was no doubt, "The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air traffic controllers, that that was a military plane," says O'Brien. "You don't fly a 757 in that manner. It's unsafe." [ABC, 10/24/01]

http://www.amics21.com/911/flight175/first.ht

[banoyes]

"The banking manoeuvre we see here, just as flight 175 is about to slam into the South Tower, would have been overridden by the onboard flight computer. So somebody must have previously overridden the flight computers themselves."

You and qasrose will make a great team

[lightgiver]

"The banking manoeuvre we see here, just as flight 175 is about to slam into the South Tower, would have been overridden by the onboard flight computer. So somebody must have previously overridden the flight computers themselves."

You and qasrose will make a great team

I am not saying i believe it, i am just posting different info,and then people can see 2 sides and make up their own minds,i do not belong to any teams,only the truth:)

check out link,

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34906&page=3

[banoyes]

I am not saying i believe it, i am just posting different info,and then people can see 2 sides and make up their own minds,i do not belong to any teams,only the truth:)

check out link,

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34906&page=3

see this
""The banking manoeuvre we see here, just as flight 175 is about to slam into the South Tower, would have been overridden by the onboard flight computer. So somebody must have previously overridden the flight computers themselves."
It's propganda
has no validity
yet you post it as "possibility"
Joseph Kieth Boeing engineer
"I knew the minute I saw it it was fake"
Airplanes don't fly inside buildings"
They smash and crash and fall to pieces"
If you have doubts
you ain't paying attention

[lightgiver]

see this
""The banking manoeuvre we see here, just as flight 175 is about to slam into the South Tower, would have been overridden by the onboard flight computer. So somebody must have previously overridden the flight computers themselves."
It's propganda
has no validity
yet you post it as "possibility"
Joseph Kieth Boeing engineer
"I knew the minute I saw it it was fake"
Airplanes don't fly inside buildings"
They smash and crash and fall to pieces"
If you have doubts
you ain't paying attention

Do you see the word possibility in my previous post?NO.end of.Do you just like arguing?

READ

I am not saying i believe it, i am just posting different info,and then people can see 2 sides and make up their own minds,i do not belong to any teams,only the truth

[banoyes]

Do you see the word possibility in my previous post?NO.end of.Do you just like arguing?

READ

I am not saying i believe it, i am just posting different info,and then people can see 2 sides and make up their own minds,i do not belong to any teams,only the truth
If there are 2 sides
the word "possibility" is inherent
It's this
or possibly that
no don't like arguement
or sloppy thinking

[lightgiver]

If there are 2 sides
the word "possibility" is inherent
It's this
or possibly that
no don't like arguement
or sloppy thinking

Ok,see ya later:) Nobody knows the real truth,not yet any how.

[lightgiver]

Hey banoyes check out vids,

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=iN1Mh-GxU8w

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=M1aO6dalhos

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=0W87ccF9iU8

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=C9FAWi_u1hg

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=KqN9qKV-2ZU

[beldazar]

Nice one Lightgiver, the vids showing the news broadcast with the wording re-arranged is a dead giveaway!

there were no bloody planes on 911, of that Im convinced :cool:

I dont give a goddamn toss what others say to me about my statement, Im getting sick and tired of being accused as a liar, disinformer, shill, mason-friend etc....just because some people want others to see things the way they do! :mad:

[mynameis]

Nice one Lightgiver, the vids showing the news broadcast with the wording re-arranged is a dead giveaway!

there were no bloody planes on 911, of that Im convinced :cool:

I dont give a goddamn toss what others say to me about my statement, Im getting sick and tired of being accused as a liar, disinformer, shill, mason-friend etc....just because some people want others to see things the way they do! :mad:

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=M1aO6dalhos

You do realize that depending on his location he might not have seen the second plane coming into view. Most of lightgiver's videos are irrelevant to the facts. I have to laugh at it it's so silly. We've been over the nose before and have two videos which distinguish that its not a nose of an aircraft. For the sake of argument before that is even stripped out of context; that is the aftermath of the plane crash debris. What the others are supposed to indicate is all pure BS conjecture.

[beldazar]

you do realise I dont give a toss about your assertions, please keep your opinions to yourself, I dont bother trying to convince YOU of no planes :mad:

[mynameis]

you do realise I dont give a toss about your assertions, please keep your opinions to yourself, I dont bother trying to convince YOU of no planes :mad:

It's a message board. I can state my opinions anytime I like. You can be rude if you want that's your pejorative. I am not trying to convince you of anything based on the limited amount of information garnered by a phone conversation and a video on youtube. You seem able to integrate and analyze the video quite insufficiently on your own, therefore I received your nannying remarks; Those remarks lacking any thought or substance which does nothing to prove the facts, which I stated above as false. TA-TA. :D

[banoyes]

Hey banoyes check out vids,

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=iN1Mh-GxU8w



Whooha wow .. great find .. who is this guy ?? do you have anything on him??
This ,along with no planes is absolutely the most covered
But, this is what the evidence shows, geezzee and I thought Bin Laden did it
( ps part of mynameis stratagy is to cause others to engage him - ignore the fine fellow
he adds nothing)

[mynameis]

( ps part of mynameis stratagy is to cause others to engage him - ignore the fine fellow
he adds nothing)

How could anyone ignore him. He rambles on about stuff he doesn't even talk coherently about describing his own expertise, let alone anything else for about 20 or more minutes. If not being coherent is your thing yea, I could see why you eat this stuff up as facts.

[lewi]

:mad::o:mad:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TXIVoKrn9uQ&feature=related

[banoyes]

:mad::o:mad:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TXIVoKrn9uQ&feature=related
"When the mode of the music changes,the wall of the city shake"-Plato
Good one

[mynameis]

PTECH, 9/11, and USA-SAUDI TERROR
PART II

PROMIS Connections to Cheney Control of
9/11 Attacks Confirmed

*
The FAA & Ptech
*
Debriefed by Secret Service - looking for a PROMIS
*
Muslim Brotherhood, Christian Cultists, and Nazis

by

Michael Kane

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml



The PTB were using synthetic terror and this much we know, the vulnerabilities due to the text and the changes to the FAA allowed clearance for both planes. These changes were implemented by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who both work for the special interests of weapons system manufacture and the military industrial complexes of the Carlyle Group and Halliburton. Both companies act as umbrella corporations for the staging operations of the CIA and the military. Ignoring that PTECH/PROMIS shut down the air defense system and its existence is tantamount to believing that pigs can fly, cats and dogs will have babies, and dinosaurs walked the earth less than 1000 years ago.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml


So why the crippling of the air defense system? Doing this achieves nothing but add more blips or remove blips on the ATC screen; cause they needed to fake planes at the Pentagon? I don't think that the information we have matches logically yet. However, the strongest suggestion of fake data is the RADES data given to the public by the PTB. RADES suggests that the so called official story plane flew over the Pentagon; this leaves the question then of what actually hit. The fake blips only add a margin of error for what transpired that day and blinds all ATC conducting Vigilant Guardian II if that is the correct name...When you add Able Danger to Vigilant Guardian, both these synchronize the so called Ts and resolve why the may have been working with US forces.

[lightgiver]

Whooha wow .. great find .. who is this guy ?? do you have anything on him??
This ,along with no planes is absolutely the most covered
But, this is what the evidence shows, geezzee and I thought Bin Laden did it
( ps part of mynameis stratagy is to cause others to engage him - ignore the fine fellow
he adds nothing)

I just stumbled across it,after reading another thread about something else,yes very interesting;):)

Yes i know what you mean by the last statement,i do not even bother to read his any more;)or engage him,unless he tells me his version of events,and where the plane wreckage is being stored.

[lightgiver]

Nice one Lightgiver, the vids showing the news broadcast with the wording re-arranged is a dead giveaway!

there were no bloody planes on 911, of that Im convinced :cool:

I dont give a goddamn toss what others say to me about my statement, Im getting sick and tired of being accused as a liar, disinformer, shill, mason-friend etc....just because some people want others to see things the way they do! :mad:

I agree,i follow what my common sense says,not what others may think;)

"Believe nothing. No matter where you read it, or who said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

This is the reason TPTB will not have a investigation because the real truth will come out,and they will end up in the slammer,but the tossers are immune from prosecution because the whole system is crawling with bad people,but we will never give up until the truth is revealed,and the real perpetrators are brought to justice:)

[mynameis]

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml



The PTB were using synthetic terror and this much we know, the vulnerabilities due to the text and the changes to the FAA allowed clearance for both planes. These changes were implemented by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who both work for the special interests of weapons system manufacture and the military industrial complexes of the Carlyle Group and Halliburton. Both companies act as umbrella corporations for the staging operations of the CIA and the military. Ignoring that PTECH/PROMIS shut down the air defense system and its existence is tantamount to believing that pigs can fly, cats and dogs will have babies, and dinosaurs walked the earth less than 1000 years ago.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012705_ptech_pt2.shtml


So why the crippling of the air defense system? Doing this achieves nothing but add more blips or remove blips on the ATC screen; cause they needed to fake planes at the Pentagon? I don't think that the information we have matches logically yet. However, the strongest suggestion of fake data is the RADES data given to the public by the PTB. RADES suggests that the so called official story plane flew over the Pentagon; this leaves the question then of what actually hit. The fake blips only add a margin of error for what transpired that day and blinds all ATC conducting Vigilant Guardian II if that is the correct name...When you add Able Danger to Vigilant Guardian, both these synchronize the so called Ts and resolve why the may have been working with US forces.

Lets redirect...the topic back to course of the thread.

In the PEOC what did Norman Mineta refer to when he says "do the orders still stand?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

[lightgiver]

Lets redirect...the topic back to course of the thread.

In the PEOC what did Norman Minetta refer to when he says "do the orders still stand?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

Yes good vid, was this mentioned in the official 911 commission report,????

he referred to planes??? the bogey plane.ha ha.

[mynameis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ag6brfWro

First time seeing this vid...Could this be where the RADES data is manufactured from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89coc88Hrs

Really calm...first interview....Smiling second interview?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUh6iflAYU

9/11 Pentagon Attack Eyewitness Mike Walter - the calm guy...this would explain why he's calm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vxc50xAbk

Describes a corporate size jet...I wonder what this guy's perspective was on 911. If he was distant this wouldn't conflict with the calm guy's interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtzTjzt5AIU

Pentagon Attack Witness Steve Chaconas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5D2K19Y-aI


Each DC-4 plane has 4 engines and could have faked RADES data as the flyover. I wonder why this would be undertaken?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciu7ia9-icI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2aM6j1Yy60

[lightgiver]

1st video,its the bbc,i am still watching the others,
2nd video,check out picture,and where are all the scorch marks on the wreckage the fbi are carrying away in a hurry,and where is the wreckage now?you do not run off with evidence,there is a procedure in forensics called preserving the crime scene.
3rd video,hmmm,they managed to hit the bit they had just renovated,what a sheer coincidence,you cannot always tell with eye witness's and the MSM,they could be staged,smoke and mirrors.
4th video,yeah same guy in previous vid,works for msm.
5th video,corporate jet,transport plane,AA airlines and a cruise missile?take your pick.



http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6469/pentfireballnu1.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentfireballnu1.jpg)

last 3 videos,hmmmm?

[QUOTE=lightgiver;569785]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2513/planecrash41fv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[mynameis]

1st video,its the bbc,i am still watching the others,
2nd video,check out picture,and where are all the scorch marks on the wreckage the fbi are carrying away in a hurry,and where is the wreckage now?you do not run off with evidence,there is a procedure in forensics called preserving the crime scene.
3rd video,hmmm,they managed to hit the bit they had just renovated,what a sheer coincidence,you cannot always tell with eye witness's and the MSM,they could be staged,smoke and mirrors.
4th video,yeah same guy in previous vid,works for msm.
5th video,corporate jet,transport plane,AA airlines and a cruise missile?take your pick.



http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6469/pentfireballnu1.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentfireballnu1.jpg)

I've watched a lot of the Pentagon stuff, I've never really sifted it finely. I am more curious about the DC-4 plane and how they spoofed the RADES data. I genuinely think that they spoofed it somehow.

[lightgiver]

I've watched a lot of the Pentagon stuff, I've never really sifted it finely. I am more curious about the DC-4 plane and how they spoofed the RADES data. I genuinely think that they spoofed it somehow.

for sure,maybe it should be called the 911 spoof,;)but without the humour bit.

and what the hell is a Freemason shakedown,its funny how this guy dies on stage?Another strange death.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=iN1Mh-GxU8w

[oiram]

1st video,its the bbc,i am still watching the others,
2nd video,check out picture,and where are all the scorch marks on the wreckage the fbi are carrying away in a hurry,and where is the wreckage now?you do not run off with evidence,there is a procedure in forensics called preserving the crime scene.
3rd video,hmmm,they managed to hit the bit they had just renovated,what a sheer coincidence,you cannot always tell with eye witness's and the MSM,they could be staged,smoke and mirrors.
4th video,yeah same guy in previous vid,works for msm.
5th video,corporate jet,transport plane,AA airlines and a cruise missile?take your pick.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6469/pentfireballnu1.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pentfireballnu1.jpg)Helicopter view part gif
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/11/pentagon50.gif

Pentagon always was my favored you seen this one yet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
About the video:
I have the found the proof of editing by the pentagon. There was another bit of footage that day that shows the missing 4 seconds that were edited out of the official Pentagon release. See the footage that shows the truth and the actual impact. NOTE: After watching this I realized that you can still see the shadow of the object over the lawn yet not the object. Watch the slow motion carefully! For more information:
http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html

--------------------------

This is quite something that people think so outside the box to investigate in this manner. This guy deserves kudos for something that really is so easily missed by most people but he caught it. Watch and realize that he clearly proves that frames have been removed by the MSM in order to further their propaganda of the 9/11 story.

They're discussing this one on the PP thread here
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=49074.msg223106#msg223106
and some are calling it into quesiton, but the fact that the frames missing are actually shown is needed to realize how the official story is pushed on us constantly. People who know what they're looking for need to do this kind of research and realize the holes in which exist in the official story and expose them.

Original Post: http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=58.msg8057#msg8057
Something like this a bit bigger!
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1193/alcmcruisemissilefc2.jpg
Helicopter view part gif
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/11/pentagon20.gif

Maybe it's just me but.
What I don't get is the direction & angle of penetration looking at the helicopter view?
I found the problem the Image is mirror image once you look at the standard Video!
Just downloaded the new gif file; should looks right now & what a difference it makes!
http://www.911lies.org/images2/entrance_pentagon_missile_911.jpg
http://www.911lies.org/images2/camera_miss_this.jpg (http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html)
http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html

[mynameis]

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/11/pentagon50.gif

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/11/pentagon20.gif

Hey Oiram. Is there a question of were the original is released from? I noticed the frames are moving backward.
http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.html

[oiram]

Hey Oiram. Is there a question of were the original is released from? I noticed the frames are moving backward.
http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_pentagon_attack_damage5.htmlYes you are correct!
The gif file I made my self & cut it out from the Original Video; to get a better view of it because whatever this thing is it's quick and I could not stop the video quick enough to get a good view of it!!
When I created the animation gif file and run it the first time & compared it with the impact direction on the Photo something did not add up then I found the problem it is mirror image; which I believe happens once you record the Video from a TV screen!
Or the other possibility is that the camera man mirror imaged the Video on purpose!
But I am sure somebody on the forum here can explain the mirror image video phenomena!

Just look at the original Video & compare it with the impact direction ...... you will figure it out I'm sure! Taken me a half hour to work it out when I created the gif file!!
Look at my original Post above with the note in red!


The Original video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc

[mynameis]

Yes you are correct!
The gif file I made my self & cut it out from the Original Video; to get a better view of it because whatever this thing is it's quick and I could not stop the video quick enough to get a good view of it!!
When I created the animation gif file and run it the first time & compared it with the impact direction on the Photo something did not add up then I found the problem it is mirror image; which I believe happens once you record the Video from a TV screen!
Or the other possibility is that the camera man mirror imaged the Video on purpose!
But I am sure somebody on the forum here can explain the mirror image video phenomena!

Just look at the original Video & compare it with the impact direction ...... you will figure it out I'm sure! Taken me a half hour to work it out when I created the gif file!!
Look at my original Post above with the note in red!


The Original video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc

Thanks I'm going to try and pay attention to this with VDUB. I"m eyeballing it and I don't know his original source, but it looks as though the white blob stops over the highway.....? The blob whatever looks cgi though.

[qasrose]

Thanks I'm going to try and pay attention to this with VDUB. I"m eyeballing it and I don't know his original source, but it looks as though the white blob stops over the highway.....? The blob whatever looks cgi though.

Yeah I think your right man

Looking at that white blob starts at the end of the motorway.
And it looks like it's been added into the footage...

[mynameis]

Yeah I think your right man

Looking at that white blob starts at the end of the motorway.
And it looks like it's been added into the footage...

Dunno...claimant has no details on source for this footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkHrtwDRKc

0205 and the flyover helicopter shot if it is one is all there as evidence. If it was a camera, the blur effect would only add to the discrepancy for the actual use of making pixels inserted by cgi less detectable or prone scrutiny. Its like making the sharp image blurry to avoid detection on privacy mode for television.


Traced this to an older source from 2006.
http://www.youtube.com/user/larfilms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls

Now I think this with 700k hits is the original.

[oiram]

Could not somebody calculate the estimated speed of this thing in the Helicopter view video; by counting the frame rate per second on a camera also the distance could be estimated from the time of appearance to impacting on the wall!
http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Cruise-Missiles-1985.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
http://www.ausairpower.net/000-AGM-86A-Cutaway.jpg
http://www.ausairpower.net/000-AGM-86A-AEDC.jpg (http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Cruise-Missiles-1985.html)This tradeoff of signature vs thrust was presumably made in the earlier phases of the weapon's development, when Soviet lookdown radar capability was far lesser. It has since been identified as a major limitation in this weapon's penetration ability and is to be rectified in a $300 million engine upgrade program which will provide a new compressor, combustion system and ignition system. The result should be a 40% thrust increase (SL) to improve terrain following performance in the 100ft altitude region, a speed increase to 0.65 Mach and several hundred miles of extra range.
http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Cruise-Missiles-1985.html

[lewi]

You may find this intresting :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6EWF3vulc

[secondsun]

..in regards to the above video the points raised in the link below might be a clue!?

...http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15182

[secondsun]

...if you really want to hide something put it in plain site!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/911wasainsidejob/fedsbymound.jpg

...copied from the above link!

...this should be taken into account regarding the Pentagon helicopter video footage!

...do we now if the Pent` heli` footage is genuine?

[lewi]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is

[secondsun]

Can no one on here really not see the possible significance of this pile of dirt?