Revelations of an Elite family Insider

[brainstormer]

Something fascinating happened on a forum in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet.

A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically.

Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.

The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least.

What amazes is that Insider answered these questions in a very short time span and if you keep in mind that the topics are diverse, some in depth and some epic answers showed up literally minutes apart, one must wonder how it was done. Copy/paste from internet? I checked intensively and the sentences Insider used cannot be found on internet. Like one person observed, this was way over the heads of the usual suspects.

Some people started getting upset, others were drawn to it and this all lead to a dialogue where so much was revealed, including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

Sounds hard to believe? Read on.

http://static.scribd.com/docs/r19e19d9g5g4.pdf

[zero1]

Oh not this again...:( This is supposed to be the same "Insider" that first appeared on Godlike Productions, then moved to Alien Earth and Above-Top Secret. I like some of the answers s/he gives, but I don't trust anything from the Jason Lucas/Elaine family of sites.

[chris]

This happens every half year or so...

[tejas]

Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.

:(

Ive read this before, wonder if its legit :|

[armoured_amazon]

Oh not this again...:( This is supposed to be the same "Insider" that first appeared on Godlike Productions, then moved to Alien Earth and Above-Top Secret. I like some of the answers s/he gives, but I don't trust anything from the Jason Lucas/Elaine family of sites.

This happens every half year or so...

rofl :D

[brainstormer]

Oh not this again...

I wasn't aware.

Besides, new to me, also means new to others.

[lightgiver]

Something fascinating happened on a forum in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet.

A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically.

Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.

The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least.

What amazes is that Insider answered these questions in a very short time span and if you keep in mind that the topics are diverse, some in depth and some epic answers showed up literally minutes apart, one must wonder how it was done. Copy/paste from internet? I checked intensively and the sentences Insider used cannot be found on internet. Like one person observed, this was way over the heads of the usual suspects.

Some people started getting upset, others were drawn to it and this all lead to a dialogue where so much was revealed, including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

Sounds hard to believe? Read on.

http://static.scribd.com/docs/r19e19d9g5g4.pdf

hello brain stormer,och aye
could you copy and paste the good bits,as your link is a pdf,and i want to see whether it is worth downloading it;)

[tejas]

hello brain stormer,och aye
could you copy and paste the good bits,as your link is a pdf,and i want to see whether it is worth downloading it;)

Its worth reading if you havent read it all before,

It all hangs on whether its legit or not tho

[1694]

So the Insider guides the questioners to ask the questions the Insider wants to answer....this mo fo is good. I'll give them that.

[brainstormer]

It all hangs on whether its legit or not tho

Doesn't everything? ;)

[fayette]

i smell bullshit.

[infin8_possibility]

Im guessing its the same "INSIDER" that was posted on this forum months ago.

"This is a very open and informative discussion with an "INSIDER" into the direct bloodlines that enslaved humanity, and still thinks it does."

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21180


Tbh some of what is said does resonate with me, especially how we are supressed and manipulated. For Instance...

Q:
How about the world economy?


A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn't exist, never existed, never will.

The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they want you to believe it.

[oiram]

I wasn't aware.
Besides, new to me, also means new to others.I did read part of it before & I did now read it again in his entirety!
You just keep reading it because there is a lot of wisdom in it!
Who ever this individual is makes no difference.
One thing is clear to me personally this person has a lot of live experience. "A lot"
The ones speaking against it did not understand what he or she answered!
This person does not need to be judged by anyone because the person did all he could do to awake people to them selfs.
You have to read it many times and you will find all the wisdom in it!

I can identify my self with a lot which was said.
Personally I would like to meet this person. Very interesting personality!

The ones which can not understand what he or she was transmitting are still far away from understanding the truth of live.

The ones which are questioning the person which answered the questions are in reality questioning them selfs. This is what actually the entire article is all about.

Remember the negative world is ruled by materialistic thinking; greed & here comes the biggest problem jealousy toward all & everything.

There are people which are so sick to even being jealous of God or the more correct term the Divine!

There is not one person on this entire forum including my self which could have answered all the questions the way he or she did! I give it a 9 Plus for intelligence, life experience, honesty and knowledge.

The term INSIDER is absolutely irrelevant & is just waisting your time thinking about it; but the answers are very relevant to all which like to find the truth about life & them selfs.
And one quote was the most important one you have to find it by your self to understand the meaning; for many this will sound like being a smart ass or hiding something; but for me it is not; because I understand why & yes I confirm this; you have to find the truth by your self & it's all around you; there is no other way!

At least now I have the entire transcript before I only had a part of it & I will have to read it many more times because I like to get into the head of the person which answered the questions!
My personal view Highly recommended!!


If people would only be able to fiscally understand 50% of the answers of the entire Transcript & these people would keep communicating on this forum the attitude toward others would make a 180 Degree U-turn to the positive side!

[mahabaratara]

They only start talking when there little secrets get out...

[lightgiver]

Something fascinating happened on a forum in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet.

A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically.

Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.

The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least.

What amazes is that Insider answered these questions in a very short time span and if you keep in mind that the topics are diverse, some in depth and some epic answers showed up literally minutes apart, one must wonder how it was done. Copy/paste from internet? I checked intensively and the sentences Insider used cannot be found on internet. Like one person observed, this was way over the heads of the usual suspects.

Some people started getting upset, others were drawn to it and this all lead to a dialogue where so much was revealed, including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

Sounds hard to believe? Read on.

http://static.scribd.com/docs/r19e19d9g5g4.pdf

could you elaborate further on the "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" :confused:
and did he or she mention from which bloodline,
still not convinced if its worth downloading,more info please,maybe a little copy and paste job;)

[netta]

I read most of it and I thought it was excellent. I plan to read the rest tonight. I wish I had been there to ask some questions. Why oh why couldn't they have come to the David Icke forum? They should have. Either way, I still don't know what to believe but this person did a great job of giving out information. It's too bad some of the questions were wasted.

I wonder if this was just a really smart person who was testing us for fun or maybe for something else? I would like them to come on again (only to this forum since it's the only one I'm on) so that I could ask them my questions.

[oiram]

They only start talking when there little secrets get out...Here it comes!
Who are you calling "they?"
This is exactly what was very well stated & answered in the transcript if you manage to read out & understand what was answered!
You also would know then Who the person was which answered the questions!

Yes it is all; right in front of you & there are no secrets in reality that's what is also stated & included in the Answers!

The only secret is your self to find your self which will give you all the answers! Sounds complicated "yes & No" this only depends on your personal understanding what the reality & the truth is in your own mind!

[notthisshitagain]

Oh not this again...:( This is supposed to be the same "Insider" that first appeared on Godlike Productions, then moved to Alien Earth and Above-Top Secret. I like some of the answers s/he gives, but I don't trust anything from the Jason Lucas/Elaine family of sites.

You rang? Did this thread remind you of my name? Lol?:D

[1977]

could you elaborate further on the "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" :confused:
and did he or she mention from which bloodline,
still not convinced if its worth downloading,more info please,maybe a little copy and paste job;)
"I am the child of earth and starry heaven, but my race is of heaven (alone)."
- Orphic Lamella from Thessaly

He may be simply saying that Earth is not our home. As with anything in this field, there's probably deliberate disinformation thrown into his "revelations". Mostly it's just talking in circles and ridiculing people for being too stupid to realize they're being controlled. However, what he says does jive with what is present in many of the Gnostic texts, so there might be something to it.

[oiram]

I wonder if this was just a really smart person who was testing us for fun or maybe for something else? I would like them to come on again (only to this forum since it's the only one I'm on) so that I could ask them my questions.Just try to read it again and go one by one and try really hard to analyze every answer individually & come to a personal final conclusion!

If there are answers which don't resonate with you makes no difference & you just skip them!
Don't forget some of the answers where specifically ask by an individual person which may only resonate with the person which asked the question!

There is so much wisdom in all & every answer! Most people it will take one week & still will not get it!

I will have to read it many more times because there are answers which I did not manage to understand in detail yet! Some I will not even try to analyze because they where personal questions & only resonate with that particular individual!

If you say the person was smart yes but I don't like the term smart I like to call it life experience, knowledge & Wisdom!

But who or what stops you to not ask your questions right here on this thread?
Do you believe there is only one insider in this world? Even this you can read out of the answers that the insider is in us; but you really have to go to all the answers and analyze every one individually! For people which are already naturally living by the Divine law on a daily base answers can come very quick or even in an instant; for some it takes days, weeks, month, years & some will never find the answer because we are manipulated by all these external things the insider was pointing to all the time!

Hint! .... One more point I like to make did anyone analyze the word INSIDEr yet?? What could it also mean??
If you know your personal self ="the truth" ="Divine law" ="the Divine function" would you know your real INSIDE & life purpose & function then?
Think about this "Hint" very carefully & you may know what I am pointing to.

This comment by the OP is very true Quote: including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

You try & give this question an answer transcript to a so called sheep; I guarantee if this sheep did not wake up at least a tiny bit; a lifetime would not be enough to understand only 5% of the entire transcript!

[le chuck]

What have i missed now....?

[zero1]

You rang? Did this thread remind you of my name? Lol?:D

It did remind me of you, hon. ;):D

[notthisshitagain]

It did remind me of you, hon. ;):D

Rofl, thought so. It's good to be of use, lulz.:D♥

[stinky catz]

I did read part of it before & I did now read it again in his entirety!
You just keep reading it because there is a lot of wisdom in it!
Who ever this individual is makes no difference.
One thing is clear to me personally this person has a lot of live experience. "A lot"
The ones speaking against it did not understand what he or she answered!
This person does not need to be judged by anyone because the person did all he could do to awake people to them selfs.
You have to read it many times and you will find all the wisdom in it!

I can identify my self with a lot which was said.
Personally I would like to meet this person. Very interesting personality!

The ones which can not understand what he or she was transmitting are still far away from understanding the truth of live.

The ones which are questioning the person which answered the questions are in reality questioning them selfs. This is what actually the entire article is all about.

Remember the negative world is ruled by materialistic thinking; greed & here comes the biggest problem jealousy toward all & everything.

There are people which are so sick to even being jealous of God or the more correct term the Divine!

There is not one person on this entire forum including my self which could have answered all the questions the way he or she did! I give it a 9 Plus for intelligence, life experience, honesty and knowledge.

The term INSIDER is absolutely irrelevant & is just waisting your time thinking about it; but the answers are very relevant to all which like to find the truth about life & them selfs.
And one quote was the most important one you have to find it by your self to understand the meaning; for many this will sound like being a smart ass or hiding something; but for me it is not; because I understand why & yes I confirm this; you have to find the truth by your self & it's all around you; there is no other way!

At least now I have the entire transcript before I only had a part of it & I will have to read it many more times because I like to get into the head of the person which answered the questions!
My personal view Highly recommended!!


If people would only be able to fiscally understand 50% of the answers of the entire Transcript & these people would keep communicating on this forum the attitude toward others would make a 180 Degree U-turn to the positive side!



Wow I just read that, It was insanely deep. It really made me take a look at myself. Even if it was a hoax (which I strongly doubt) it made me think and question. Life is so full of questions I wish i was able to ask some.

I highly recommend reading that transcript.

[zen_fox]

I've read it in the past and came to the conclusion that it was nothing I could not have made up after studying conspiracy theory and the various fields involved with it which range from philosophy, esotericism, magick, nutrition, ufology etc. It's an attention starved intellectual who is "insider." He is purposefully leading the questioners and intentionally making his answers muddled to add confusion. A muddy puddle appears deep. Do not confuse obscurity with depth.

[stinky catz]

I've read it in the past and came to the conclusion that it was nothing I could not have made up after studying conspiracy theory and the various fields involved with it which range from philosophy, esotericism, magick, nutrition, ufology etc. It's an attention starved intellectual who is "insider." He is purposefully leading the questioners and intentionally making his answers muddled to add confusion. A muddy puddle appears deep. Do not confuse obscurity with depth.

I'm not sure what to believe now :D

It at least made me think.

[mountainwarrior]

definite hoax.

knew it when i first saw the thread on glp.

[disorder2k8]

Something fascinating happened on a forum in a span of a few days and it has caused quite a stir in certain parts of the Internet.

A person by the moniker of Insider claimed he was from a ruling bloodline and gave the people a chance to ask everything they wanted and Insider would answer. At first it looks like another internet hoax, some lightweight questions were followed by lightweight answers, but then things started changing drastically.

Anyone who understands dialectics knows that the answers Insider gave were designed to force/provoke others to ask questions which went to the core of the matter. First some questions are being asked by Insider like "Are you really living on the planet you think you are?" which made people react differently than before.

The answers this person started giving to those following questions showed a deep, broad understanding of philosophy, history, metaphysics, religion, magic, politics, and more in a way which is very innovative, detailed and some answers are thought provoking to say the least.

What amazes is that Insider answered these questions in a very short time span and if you keep in mind that the topics are diverse, some in depth and some epic answers showed up literally minutes apart, one must wonder how it was done. Copy/paste from internet? I checked intensively and the sentences Insider used cannot be found on internet. Like one person observed, this was way over the heads of the usual suspects.

Some people started getting upset, others were drawn to it and this all lead to a dialogue where so much was revealed, including by the other posters that it can be studied for years to come.

Sounds hard to believe? Read on.

http://static.scribd.com/docs/r19e19d9g5g4.pdf

this is actually the most convincing out of any insider type messages I've seen, he speaks generically and doesnt copy/paste anything from other sources like the last one I read at ATS

I see a lot are saying this is a hoax but I think he is real.

[1971]

Wow I just read that, It was insanely deep. It really made me take a look at myself. Even if it was a hoax (which I strongly doubt) it made me think and question. Life is so full of questions I wish i was able to ask some.


this is true for me too.

[anonymousoneuk]

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[anonymousoneuk]

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[anonymousoneuk]

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[anonymousoneuk]

"I am the child of earth and starry heaven, but my race is of heaven (alone)."
- Orphic Lamella from Thessaly

However, what he says does jive with what is present in many of the Gnostic texts, so there might be something to it.

The Gnostic stuff really gets me.

The idea that being human is somehow regrettable!?

That desire is what enslaves us!?

I can consider it, but i am not sure whether i could or would want to fully accept it.

I am torn between celebrating myself and regretting myself and i can come up with great reasons for indulging in either depending on how i choose to look at things :D

[oiram]

No one is wrong because it is entirely up to your selfs to draw your own conclusion from this transcript!

But saying it is a hoax your are promoting your own personal opinion.

This transcript is not for beginners it's very, very deep & in my view has nothing to do with manipulation because if you know your self nothing and nobody will ever influence you if you don't allow it to happen!

This is also clearly stated in the Transcript but you have to read it analyze it & come to your own logical conclusion!

The once putting this into the Hoax box do not know what they talking about & I presume the person saying this is for starters very young or a person which had absolutely nothing to identify him self with the things which was answered!
All it is your are not ready yet because you did not reach the level of understanding your own life yet!

If anyone classifies this as being a hoax then I must be a Hoax my self.

By transmitting your own conclusion to others you missed the key point of the entire transcript.

Remember this if you like; it is not important what you believe; it is important what you understand & especially about your own self; not others!
Any believing has absolutely no function without doing & implementing it.

So here are parts for the Hoax stampers; which can tell us all if this are Hoax statements!
Please don't be embarrassed just confirm your Hoax argument no good to only have blah...blah comments!
My comments are in blue:
A little old saying:
The perfect slave is the one that says "I am not a slave".
It is like an alcoholic saying he isn´t an alcoholic so therefor he will always be an alcoholic.
Get my drift?
====
Q:
why have you allowed us to breed like rats if population is what you feel threatens you?
A:
1. We haven´t allowed that, you have more power than you think you have.
====
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
====
A:
Religion is created by "us".
The religions which rule now are the ones that are under total control.
There is a core of truth, but it is drowning in a sea of perversions....for you to pick out, good luck.
====
A:
One thing conspiracy theorists are right about is that it is based on money that doesn´t exist,
never existed, never will.
The ones who own the banks also own the media and politics, so it can be portrayed the way they
want you to believe it.
====
Q:
well I´d have to say your divine law has fucked up this planet and its people very well!
A:
Peasants like you don´t understand that you do it, nobody else.
Btw, by what you just said you lenghtened your stay here on Earth one more lifetime....my
condolences.
====
Q:
dang insider you skipped my question about what really hit the pentagon....does that mean you aren´t
going to answer it?
A:
Does it matter what hit it? (My view exactly not relevant for the fact!)
====
Q:
so is bill gates more elite than you?
how about queen elizabeth?
A:
The ones you know the names of are not true bloodlines like you have been taught by theorists.
They are not the ones who write the symphony, neither conduct it.
The ones you mentioned and other known names merely play the violin or cello when they are told to, the way they are told to.
====
Q:
There is a very old saying...unrecorded in open history--"the devil doesn´t know he´s the devil...he
thinks he´s God."
A:
Wrong.
It actually states that humans who worship the "bad" think they worship the "good".
====
Q:
"You do not understand what this world we live in really is."
Care to elaborate on this statement...?
A:
Only if you formulate the question and understand that certain questions need to be answered by
yourself only not others, otherwise they have no purpose. (Now we are getting into the advanced area!)
====
Q:
Is Earth a prison?
A:
Yes and even worse.
The ones who believe the contrary will never escape.
====
(Now this is where you need logic to understand reality)
Q:
Now on the population reduction... We have a few brewing like AIDS... however, it has been my feeling
that the "release" of a bio, will be in a timely fashion cloaked in chaos from another event. What say
you on that?
A:
There is no plan to reduce the population, that is fully in the hands of the people.
However certain events have been seen as just that while they are serving another purpose....a
misconception.
Just because it comes across like population reduction does not mean it is exactly that.
Really, if the goal was population reduction, it would have been done a long time ago in a span of
a few weeks.
In fact the opposite is more true in most areas on this planet.
What you said could happen but it would be done by the ones who control the lower areas.
The ones up higher do it through the daily items you consume.
====
I don't need to state to much but if this comments come from a idiot ore Hoaxer
then my entire logic is a Hoax & I am a Hoaxer my self!

The once stating this are Hoax statements are them selfs the biggest Hoax! IMO

[anonymousoneuk]

No one is wrong because it is entirely up to your selfs to draw your own conclusion from this transcript!

But saying it is a hoax your are promoting your own personal opinion.

This transcript is not for beginners it's very, very deep & in my view has nothing to do with manipulation because if you know your self nothing and nobody will ever influence you if you don't allow it to happen!

This is also clearly stated in the Transcript but you have to read it analyze it & come to your own logical conclusion!

The once putting this into the Hoax box do not know what they talking about & I presume the person saying this is for starters very young or a person which had absolutely nothing to identify him self with the things which was answered!
All it is your are not ready yet because you did not reach the level of understanding your own life yet!

If anyone classifies this as being a hoax then I must be a Hoax my self.

By transmitting your own conclusion to others you missed the key point of the entire transcript.

Remember this if you like; it is not important what you believe; it is important what you understand & especially about your own self; not others!
Any believing has absolutely no function without doing & implementing it.

Oiram, saying that it is not a Hoax is also promoting your own personal opinion.

How about offering your own opinion and letting other make up their own mind?

Saying people are not ready if they don't blindly believe some writing that's completely un empirically evidenced is ridiculous and a demonstration of the egocentricity that is the hallmark of the paranoid conspiracy theorist.

In this regard i have always felt you are batshit insane, but all round well meaning.

Try not to say one thing and do another simulfuckingtaneously for godsake.

Peace :)

[oiram]

In this regard i have always felt you are batshit insane, but all round well meaning.
Peace :)Yes you are correct with your comment but this is because I never was good with words!
I am a hands on technical person & logic rules my life also I never liked paperwork & pencil pushing.
I wrote more in the last 2 years then I ever did in my entire live & English is my third Lingo I manage; "not bad right?:p"

In reality it's all just a word game for some that's why I really hate rhetoric because it's used to reverse entire meanings & usually into the negative direction that's what they invented it for in the first place. IMO

That's why it is absolutely correct the truth can only be found in silence & only on a personal level! No one can tell you truth you have to find it your self.

Anyway if I am generally understood to be well meaning; I don't mind to get classed to be a moron or Insane because it neutralizes the labels. Also I could not care less because I know exactly what & who I am. ;)

Yes your evaluation regarding me is correct this is my entire intent; otherwise I would not even bother!

One more thing is also true for me I really Hate Word twisters & this comes from my hart!

Every dead word twister is a good twister! Would they all die this forum would lose 80% of there members & I am not talking about you at all because you made a honest statement & I always respect Honesty even if it kicks your own ass!

Because you made this comment I am reading my own post again & again "where is the part where I directly specifically said it is not a entire Hoax???????
Shit English lingo very unprofessional & always can be twisted around! that's why I like German it's not easy to twist it around and is very specific with long words but to the point!

Anyway this was my reason for making my counter post!
I am sure that I did not make a clear definite statement like this; even that my English is not perfect!
This person appears to see GLP & every member is a Hoaxer!
I presume if this Person only sees Bush on the TV he will scream Muslim Muslim all Terrorist Terrorist War War Kill Kill!
If anyone takes this person as an inspiration figure it's like jumping of the highest Cliff actually no you already hit the ground!

"mountainwarrior"
definite hoax.
knew it when i first saw the thread on glp.

Who the hell is he >>> a newcomer >>> postings 53 .............. must be NWO shill????

[anonymousoneuk]

I take back what i said Oiram and three lingo's?

I'm impressed ;)

Peace :)

[lightgiver]

"I am the child of earth and starry heaven, but my race is of heaven (alone)."
- Orphic Lamella from Thessaly

He may be simply saying that Earth is not our home. As with anything in this field, there's probably deliberate disinformation thrown into his "revelations". Mostly it's just talking in circles and ridiculing people for being too stupid to realize they're being controlled. However, what he says does jive with what is present in many of the Gnostic texts, so there might be something to it.

Cheers for that,i will wait till they visit the d icke forum;):D

[1977]

The Gnostic stuff really gets me.

The idea that being human is somehow regrettable!?

That desire is what enslaves us!?

I can consider it, but i am not sure whether i could or would want to fully accept it.

I am torn between celebrating myself and regretting myself and i can come up with great reasons for indulging in either depending on how i choose to look at things :D
Actually, now that I think about it, this guy's theology is a dead-ringer for Platonism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Neoplatonism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Guess we know where Plato was getting his information, eh? :p

[lightgiver]

Actually, now that I think about it, this guy's theology is a dead-ringer for Platonism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonism) and Neoplatonism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism). Guess we know where Plato was getting his information, eh? :p

Where was plato getting his info:confused: cheers:)
is he the one who said let us kill them in secret?

[spiritist]

I dont actually see anything new in what the insider is talking about. Having sat in many different physical circles for trance mediumship it all pretty much tallies with what has come through them.
The big question is - are all these enlighened beings collectively correct. Something we will never know unless we eat the pudding, for there lies the proof. I must admit the pudding looks damn tasty!

[oiram]

Keep it going this is a good thread & much to learn!

[bulgariaole]

so what will happen in 2012? Why are people saying the world will end, while others that there will be a mass "ascention"?

[armoured_amazon]

so what will happen in 2012? Why are people saying the world will end, while others that there will be a mass "ascention"?

People love trying to predict things, that's why. It's just common tradition. :D

[1977]

Where was plato getting his info:confused: cheers:)
is he the one who said let us kill them in secret?
Plato laid out the whole Brotherhood plan in his Republic. The truth is, as always, "hidden in plain sight."

http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html
They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

[lightgiver]

Plato laid out the whole Brotherhood plan in "The Republic". The truth is, just as the insider said, "hidden in plain sight."

Links please:)

[1977]

Links please:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1497

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7185

The secret Egyptian and Babylonian priesthoods passed on the knowledge to Plato, who passed it on to Aristotle, who was the instructor of Alexander the Great. See how it all fits together? :)

[grannymoose]

dudes after reading every comment i,ve a dam headach this is worst then daddy or chips :confused:

[seeker1111]

Here's another one of those 'elite's' who decided to reveal.

Although, I dare say it was actually a good read. :D

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html

[novymir]

It is not a hoax. The person or entity that communicated it certainly is revealing uncommon knowledge. Alot of Truth. But that still does not mean it's not disinfo. I had a sense that he/it may be setting us up. In the way Jonathan/adampants2007 spoke of. I don't accept everything he said either though.
The interesting thing is that I just read this today, yet last night I posted in another thread what amounts to a major part of what this "insider" said, in a nutshell, sort of.
From the "All belief is a Box on your head" thread, last page:

" Hello raptorialis,
I just finished reading the whole thread, good stuff.
I KNOW unconditional Love is a(if not thee) KEY to Oneness. Those that cannot accept this, do not know what Love is.
Conditions imply a price and desired control of another.
Love is a GIFT, freely given, without strings or expectations. It is what The One, or God, or Creator is, IT is what IT gives US. IT is WHY WE ARE. We are forgiven for our errors, no matter what they are. IT is the only Authority, and no man or being has the right to condemn another, to do so is to play God. Sanctimoniousness(decievers). Let he who is without sin throw the first stone. There are no "ratings of "sin" or "evil", there is either acceptance or rejection of the Truth of Infinite Love. Ignorance or insanity are the ONLY possible causes of rejection.

The Matrix is US. The Illuminati is US. To hate, despise or condemn them(not their actions or beliefs) is to Strengthen them, to confirm and validate THEIR "BELIEFS" about themselves and us. We fuel their manifestation this way. Also, labels and stereotyping plays a part in manifesting that which we supposedly disapprove of, the "ego" gets a little kick out of the supposed superiority too... That's one method the "problem-creators" use when they are pretending to be the "problem-solvers". They are one and the same.

The One, or Creator, or God, does not and will not "prove" Itself, but it will show Itself and help, for those who ask. We can transcend this insane polarized prison, we must be The One. I am becoming. All will become that which they already are.
Last edited by novymir; 14-11-2008 at 05:16 AM. "
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My concern is that this "insider's" "One" is actually a USURPER.

[bulgariaole]

disinfo? it said that only about 20,000 people have viewd it...
the person who did this was obviosly smart, but his thinking that we are "pesants" and "lowlife" that is forced to be here for "punishment".... that just dosent feel like thinking from somebody that is supposed to 'understand' things better.

btw, i just discovered this guy adampants2007 on utube, his vids are good, can u tell me which vid exactly ur talking about..?
peace

[1977]

Here's another one of those 'elite's' who decided to reveal.

Although, I dare say it was actually a good read. :D

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html
Okay, this one might be a bit too much to swallow! This dude is obviously cribbing his whole New Age malarkey from David Wilcock and the Ra Material. His description of tea-time with Yahweh is good for a laugh, and it doesn't help that the two "insiders" directly contradict each other :D

[novymir]

Hello bulgariaole,

adampants videos(google) "the healing begins NOW", "the 3rd phase" both have parts that deal with the scam that's being played on us after we "die".
But, he talks about demonic possession and attacks, which he no doubt has experienced, BUT, one needs to be careful about MANIFESTING them in their own reality. Do not focus on them, or get stuck thinking about that concept. Unless you want to deal with the consequences. I see no reason for me to do so at this time, and it scared the living sh-t out of me when I realized what was happening. But the Creator helped me pull out of it. And I'm stronger now.
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Maybe you're more advanced than me(and saw it clearer than me) but there is alot of truth to what the "insider" said, but....
The insider is an agent of a USURPER.
see this also:
Lenon Honor The Creator Part 1 of 5 - YouTube

[bulgariaole]

whoa that sounds freacky, ill deffenetly check it out.

[seeker1111]

Okay, this one might be a bit too much to swallow! This dude is obviously cribbing his whole New Age malarkey from David Wilcock and the Ra Material. His description of tea-time with Yahweh is good for a laugh, and it doesn't help that the two "insiders" directly contradict each other :D

lol...definitely interesting!

rule # 1. Never jump on the bandwagon...
...any bandwagon. i prefer to walk. more time to take in the sights :D

[1977]

lol...definitely interesting!

rule # 1. Never jump on the bandwagon...
...any bandwagon. i prefer to walk. more time to take in the sights :DIt made me think of this line from 1984...

"But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

[cheeney1]

so what will happen in 2012? Why are people saying the world will end, while others that there will be a mass "ascention"?

Its Just a Date another year 2012 will pass by like any other :cool:

[size_of_light]

I haven't read it.

My main issue (and I'm not referring to the people in this thread but just as a general principle) is with people adopting a 'victim mentality' that draws them to the statements made by people claiming to be dedicated to their enslavement.

If this, or any such person is legitimately an insider, the energy you give them by considering and speculating and fascinating on their words is playing right into their hands, because you're automatically giving them power and adopting a submissive position.

In a perfect world, every post responding to this 'insider' on whatever forum/s he/she appears on would be 'fuck you' multiplied by infinity.

[romas]

I've read it in the past and came to the conclusion that it was nothing I could not have made up after studying conspiracy theory and the various fields involved with it which range from philosophy, esotericism, magick, nutrition, ufology etc. It's an attention starved intellectual who is "insider." He is purposefully leading the questioners and intentionally making his answers muddled to add confusion. A muddy puddle appears deep. Do not confuse obscurity with depth.






I've red his answers, seemed pretty good at first glance, but...

I agree with you, futher more the argument that he never spent alot of time posting answers isn't very strong, because smart hoaxer would have a heap of answers ready, you can predict what questions people will post on a conspiracy-quazi-spiritual website...

Further more a sufisticated group, dedicated to poppulation mind controll could develope some really mind numbing concepts and stories if need be.

I suspect military or even industrial mind controll ops. are advanced beyond imagination, think-tanks who study human psychology and biology and possibly metaphysical side have far bigger knowledge than an a person on the street, because he does not specialized in this field.


PS: Ofcourse there is a chance for this being genuine :D

[tejas]

“Who is your "creator" and is your "creator" the same as our "creator"?”

This is an excellent question, which I can use to draw our communication closer to the 'Core'.

Yes and no. You would first need to understand the Creation.

In the Beginning, there is The Infinite One. This is the Source of All. Intelligent Infinity. It is the undifferentiated absolute. Within It, is unlimited potential, waiting to 'become'. Think of it as the "uncarved block" of your Taoist traditions.

Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself, seeks to experience Itself, and The One Infinite Creator is 'born', or 'manifest' (This appears to your 3rd Density comprehension as "Space"). In effect, the 'Creator', is a point of focused Infinite Consciousness or awareness, into Infinite Intelligent Energy. The One Infinite Creator also becoming self aware, seeks too to experience Itself as Creator, and in so doing, begins the next step down in the Creational spiral. The One Infinite Creator, in focusing It's Infinite Intelligence, becomes Intelligent Energy (which you could call the Great Central Sun), and divides Itself into smaller portions of Itself, that can then in turn experience themselves as Creators (or Central Suns). In other words, each Central Sun (or Creator) is a 'step down' in Conscious awareness (or distortion) from the Original 'thought' of Creation. So "In the beginning" was not "The Word", but Thought. The Word, is thought expressed and made manifest as Creator.

There is Unity. Unity is All there is. Infinite Intelligence, and Infinite Energy. The two are One, and within them, is the potental for all Creation. This state of Consciousness could be termed as 'Being'.
Infinite Intelligence does not recognize it's 'potential'. It is the undifferentiated absolute. But Infinite Energy recognizes the potential of 'becoming' all things, in order to bring any desired experience into 'being'.

Intelligent Infinity can be likened to the central 'Heartbeat' of Life, and Infinite Energy as the Spiritual 'Life-blood' (or potential) which 'pumps out' for the Creator to form the Creation.

This image may assist your comprehension:

This is the core, If these Insiders are real, we can judge it or not depending on their spirtual knowledge.

[romas]

This is the core, If these Insiders are real, we can judge it or not depending on their spirtual knowledge.



Isn't that from George Green?

[lightgiver]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_(Plato)

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1497

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7185

The secret Egyptian and Babylonian priesthoods passed on the knowledge to Plato, who passed it on to Aristotle, who was the instructor of Alexander the Great. See how it all fits together? :)

Thanks,and yes i see the connections:)

Socrates left no writings; references to military duty may be found in Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War. He was prominently lampooned in Aristophanes's comedic play The Clouds produced when Socrates was in his mid-forties. Socrates appeared in other plays by Aristophanes such as The Birds because of his being a philodorian, and also in plays by Callias, Eupolis and Telecleides, in all of which Socrates and the Sophists were criticised for "the moral dangers inherent in contemporary thought and literature". The main source of the historical Socrates, however, is the writings of his two disciples, Xenophon, and Plato. Another important source is various references to him in Aristotle's writings.

Socrates, although no sculptures of him were ever made by people he knew, has been depicted as a rather ugly man in sculptures and busts of him; these portrayals are largely based on descriptions by his disciples, namely Plato.

Socrates' father was Sophroniscus, a sculptor, and his mother Phaenarete, a midwife. He was married to Xanthippe, who bore him three sons. By the cultural standards of the time, she was considered a shrew. Socrates himself attested that he having learned to live with Xanthippe would be able to cope with any other human being, just as a horse trainer trained on wilder horses could be more competent. Socrates enjoyed going to Symposia, drink-talking sessions. He was a legendary drinker, remaining sober, even after everyone else in the party became senselessly drunk. He fought at the Battle of Potidaea, the Battle of Delium and the Battle of Amphipolis. We know from Plato's Symposium that Socrates was decorated for bravery. In one instance he stayed with the wounded Alcibiades, and probably saved his life. During such campaigns, he also showed his extraordinary hardiness, walking without shoes and coat in winter.

Socrates lived during the time of transition from the height of Athenian Empire to her defeat by Sparta and its coalition in the Peloponnesian War. At a time when Athens was seeking to recover from humiliating defeat, upon the instigation of three leading figures at the time, the Athenian public court tried Socrates for impiety and for corrupting the young, found him guilty as charged, and executed him by ordering him to drink hemlock.
http://www.malaspina.org/socrates.htm

[helpus]

the only chink from bullshit was when s/he mentioned eating from foreign shops and greenhouses.. some zen hippy i reckon.

2p's worth

[beldazar]

not sure...the elite supposedly eat organic stuff and I wouldnt be surprised if the foreign shops dont have so much crap in, they target what goes out mostly, foreign shops are of a minority over here, well, where I live there arent ANY

[romas]

"foreign shop" sounds awfully vague from some one who is supposed to be "enlightened" or atleast of "higher knowledge"

[tejas]

Okay, this one might be a bit too much to swallow! This dude is obviously cribbing his whole New Age malarkey from David Wilcock and the Ra Material. His description of tea-time with Yahweh is good for a laugh, and it doesn't help that the two "insiders" directly contradict each other :D

Heh The Newageyness was overwhelming,

Think Happy thoughts think Happy Thoughts

And the whole Yahweh thing is disgusting, why do they always take some christian mythology bollows, why not something from hinduism? why not something from greek mythology? Its always fucking something from the mithraic solar worship religions

Gah

His intro to that hooked me, and then i dunno blah

[electricwoombat]

Just read the revelationsof an........ Sounds like the reincarnation of Krishnamurti------The guru who says you need no guru preaching the doctrine of "no doctrine".No wonder the Christians were pissed!:D

[cleft_asunder]

:(

Ive read this before, wonder if its legit :|

If it's legit, I've found several flaws. First off, if a family elite was requested to carry out a mission to inform us, I would imagine that he would be required to be convincing. Instead, what we have is a person who is in a hurry to answer questions and who mis-spells words. That, in itself, is unacceptable. But to take it further, I don't see any eloquent use of writing skills nor vocabulary skills. We are talking about the top bloodlines who would be receiving educations that exceeed even the top private schools in the world! On top of that, he gets aggitated for trivial reasons.

Another problem is that he mentions that what some people think of as the bloodlines are nothing but players of the tune, not the composers. He claims that the names of the true bloodlines have seldom been spoken even through history. Now let's say that is true. The problem is that he doesn't mention the 13 families that have been documented in Bloodlines of the Illuminati. Why wouldn't he add to the answer and say, "And even those of the 13 families who's names have been mentioned are not of the highest bloodline."

What he says is quite deep and well thought out but only to a point. I get the impression that the author is someone who has tried so hard to find the ultimate truths, found them to a greater or lesser extent, and now he's walled himself in and isn't open to different theories or interpretations. And therefore, he goes on the internet in the guise of an Elite so that he can play the part of the man who cannot be argued with because he cannot tollerate being argued. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Allan Watt who wrote that.

But let's be honest, on the whole it's quite a stretch. As if the elite have nothing better to do. Lame.

[beldazar]

"foreign shop" sounds awfully vague from some one who is supposed to be "enlightened" or atleast of "higher knowledge"

I wouldnt expect that kind of criticism from somebody who thinks they are knowledgable!

You dont know me, I dont have a racist bone in my body, for want as a better word I used that one, so please keep your judgements to yourself

[tracker]

many here will know my posts .
if there is something i dont like is a long winded philosophy of life being an illusion .
as to whether it is or is not it still exists .

yet .



i found this link very interesting indeed .

it has closed a few loop holes in my faults .


personally , i am glad i took a look .:cool:

and yes i read the whole thing too .

[romas]

I wouldnt expect that kind of criticism from somebody who thinks they are knowledgable!

You dont know me, I dont have a racist bone in my body, for want as a better word I used that one, so please keep your judgements to yourself



Eh, I was reffering to Insider... to put it bluntly he is trying to "direct" the "lower humans" where to buy food, yet sounded like he doesn't even know what countries should be trusted with food production specifically.

[beldazar]

Eh, I was reffering to Insider... to put it bluntly he is trying to "direct" the "lower humans" where to buy food, yet sounded like he doesn't even know what countries should be trusted with food production specifically.

Oh, ok, sorry then, :o

I'd only just woke up....

[romas]

Oh, ok, sorry then, :o

I'd only just woke up....


It's no problem.

[queenofleon]

I am sorry if this has been posted, I am knew and at work so cant really read this entire thread. Im aware of this insider *who called icke a tool, hmmm, how? to lead us to the reptiles?*

but this one resonated with me much more ...

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html

he went into a lot more detail and his tone was nicer than the other one.

Sorry again if this has been posted but it is different info from the one before!

[elirien]

q: Hey 13 -I'm not coming back to your planet next time. Smoke on that. a: What gave you the impression that when that time comes, you have a say in that?

Question to the insider (AC 13):
Are you familiar with the Black Nobility?
I have traced and linked all ancient royal families of Europe and the Middle East still present to this day. I know their names and their connections to power, wealth and influence across the world. I can even identify the very person who is the potential Anti-Christ (he has all the correct makings - a wonderful, benign young man who has yet to realize his full potentiality as a world leader ). The Black Nobility love this young man. And lastly, are you a small part of the Black Nobility, Insider?

A: The Dark Nobility is a faction which operates on their own, the have different roots which have been described in texts written by my ancestors.
It is a much smaller group than most would claim, because the core is different to the "outer walls".
They are the ones which you all confuse with my kind and therfor direct the hate towards the wrong ones (as shown in this thread too by the lesser intelligent).

About the Anti-Christ....there are at this moment literally billions of Anti-Christ. I am not one.
You will find them among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Satanists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.
They don't need a leader to be more Anti-Christ.

I have to make clear that The Christ has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth, that part was later fabricated.

Q: Gnostic Number 13, do you ...
A: It is the task of every soul to...

Q: Insider 13 are you Antichrist?
A: Jesus of Nazareth is not the Christ, nor is anything I have said Anti-Christ. The ones who claim the opposite are.

Q: 13, if the divinity is passed down through your blood, what type of blood/rh do you and yours possess? Are you part of the Templars or involved with The Vatican?

A:
Divinity can choose to pass it's power "down" however it wishes to.
But the blood/genes/physical part is such a small part of how it goes.
In fact it is not a necessity.......sound like a contradiction?

No, the proof is around you.

Quite interesting. that many gnostic church-O.T.O. members. wow.

any comments? this is not posted to single out the O.T.O. but rather have an understanding on members.

lol. I sound like the southpark intro banner. :D