saturns hexagonal pole

[humito]

here is a link to a pic of saturns north pole..........How did the ancients know about this and attribute this magical shape to Saturn???????????? http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034

[jesta_g]

How did the ancients know about this and attribute this magical shape to Saturn????????????

lol i bet you can answer that one yourself ;)

cool post tho, ive seen/read and looked into this before tho i dont think ive come across it on the forum tho.

further adds to the growing pile of evidence to show our true ancient history :)

[humito]

;)

[humito]

In 2006, NASA captured a clearer image of the North Polar vortex of Saturn. The image captured by Voyager in 1980 was not something temporary, but this hexagon is a permanent feature of Saturn. This confirms the evidence on the Sumerian cylinder seal representing the god Ninurta or Saturn with the Hexagram symbol due to the permanent feature of Saturn's North Polar vortex. It is very mysterious how the ancient knew the distinguishing feature of Saturn in advance. Powerful telescopes even today cannot possibly see the north polar vortex of Saturn clearly, unless you send a spacecraft near the planet to survey the surface.

Although this sounds rather absurd, but did they really possess a spacecraft back then? I cannot seem to explain how they were able to know the hexagonal feature of the planet Saturn with accuracy.

Another mysterious thing which baffles me is that on the other cylinder seal, we see the ring of Saturn clearly etched on the seal. Again, how were they able to know this? Did they have powerful telescopes back then? How were they able to see the rings of Saturn clearly? Although there are no evidences found which suggest a telescope or a spacecraft being utilized, but by just observing the evidences alone, it is clear that the Sumerian civilization was technologically advanced in its time which can be compared to our modern time. I guess our generation is not the only one that can claim advancement in technology.

In 2006 again, NASA's Cassini spacecraft has seen something never been seen on another planet, a well developed eye ringed by towering clouds on the south polar vortex of Saturn. This again is very mysterious.

Now, having studied all these distinguishing features of the planet Saturn, we now look for clues to confirm what I have suspected. We can derive a compound symbol from Saturn - the eye within the hexagram which is derived from Saturn's north and south polar vortex.

Looking for this compound symbol, I now turn to religious organization to find clues. And to my shock and awe again according to what I have suspected all along, I found this compound symbol of Saturn to be present in the pagan religions of the world. I also discovered that the Cao Dai temple in Vietnam has an idol of a planet which has an eye on it. Something is really weird going on here. How can they know in advance where the eye and the hexagram of Saturn were only discovered recently? Is this just a coincidence?

I want to be really certain what I have discovered, so I turned to the other compound symbol of Saturn which is the Pentagram within the Hexagram. Both can be found on Saturn's north polar vortex. I look again for clues, as I have expected again, I found this compound symbol to appear in the pagan religion of witchcraft and freemasonry. Unbelievable accuracy! How can they be more advanced than NASA? The eye, the pentagram, and the hexagram on Saturn are just recent discoveries. I am totally bewildered.

If I just excuse this as a mere chance and coincidence, how many coincidences do we need to find and gather in order to convince ourselves? Everything points to the planet Saturn. Every pagan religions of the world are associated with Saturn via their sacred symbols which their god is represented.

It is for certain with the evidences shown that the worship of the Babylonian god Ninurta has survived even to this day. I think its compelling proof of the true origins of mankind.

[jesta_g]

In 2006, NASA captured a clearer image of the North Polar vortex of Saturn. The image captured by Voyager in 1980 was not something temporary, but this hexagon is a permanent feature of Saturn. This confirms the evidence on the Sumerian cylinder seal representing the god Ninurta or Saturn with the Hexagram symbol due to the permanent feature of Saturn's North Polar vortex. It is very mysterious how the ancient knew the distinguishing feature of Saturn in advance. Powerful telescopes even today cannot possibly see the north polar vortex of Saturn clearly, unless you send a spacecraft near the planet to survey the surface.

Although this sounds rather absurd, but did they really possess a spacecraft back then? I cannot seem to explain how they were able to know the hexagonal feature of the planet Saturn with accuracy.

Another mysterious thing which baffles me is that on the other cylinder seal, we see the ring of Saturn clearly etched on the seal. Again, how were they able to know this? Did they have powerful telescopes back then? How were they able to see the rings of Saturn clearly? Although there are no evidences found which suggest a telescope or a spacecraft being utilized, but by just observing the evidences alone, it is clear that the Sumerian civilization was technologically advanced in its time which can be compared to our modern time. I guess our generation is not the only one that can claim advancement in technology.

In 2006 again, NASA's Cassini spacecraft has seen something never been seen on another planet, a well developed eye ringed by towering clouds on the south polar vortex of Saturn. This again is very mysterious.

Now, having studied all these distinguishing features of the planet Saturn, we now look for clues to confirm what I have suspected. We can derive a compound symbol from Saturn - the eye within the hexagram which is derived from Saturn's north and south polar vortex.

Looking for this compound symbol, I now turn to religious organization to find clues. And to my shock and awe again according to what I have suspected all along, I found this compound symbol of Saturn to be present in the pagan religions of the world. I also discovered that the Cao Dai temple in Vietnam has an idol of a planet which has an eye on it. Something is really weird going on here. How can they know in advance where the eye and the hexagram of Saturn were only discovered recently? Is this just a coincidence?

I want to be really certain what I have discovered, so I turned to the other compound symbol of Saturn which is the Pentagram within the Hexagram. Both can be found on Saturn's north polar vortex. I look again for clues, as I have expected again, I found this compound symbol to appear in the pagan religion of witchcraft and freemasonry. Unbelievable accuracy! How can they be more advanced than NASA? The eye, the pentagram, and the hexagram on Saturn are just recent discoveries. I am totally bewildered.

If I just excuse this as a mere chance and coincidence, how many coincidences do we need to find and gather in order to convince ourselves? Everything points to the planet Saturn. Every pagan religions of the world are associated with Saturn via their sacred symbols which their god is represented.

It is for certain with the evidences shown that the worship of the Babylonian god Ninurta has survived even to this day. I think its compelling proof of the true origins of mankind.

DING!


lol now we have to serve this information to the sheeple with a side order of simplicity (coz we know how dim they can get) and that'll get there investigative juices flowing :p

lmao it just riddles me to the bone as to how the sheeple just continue there manufactured preprogrammed ickle days without coming across or answering these simple questions and answers.

hmmmm back to patience we go I spose.

cheers for the post humito :)

[disorder2k8]

yes its a mystery, we had advanced technology or we were told stuff by travellers etc

[humito]

ding!


Lol now we have to serve this information to the sheeple with a side order of simplicity (coz we know how dim they can get) and that'll get there investigative juices flowing :p

lmao it just riddles me to the bone as to how the sheeple just continue there manufactured preprogrammed ickle days without coming across or answering these simple questions and answers.

Hmmmm back to patience we go i spose.

Cheers for the post humito :)
lol ;) a mass leaflet drop or shall we hijack the x factor????:d

[tjohn]

yes its a mystery, we had advanced technology or we were told stuff by travellers etcThe Sumerian texts which describe the planets in much detail, tell also of travelers who came to Earth. That's one mystery solved as far as I am concerned.

[cruise4]

Maybe they had to 'suggest' it back then for us to see it occur now, ie. programming. Saturn = Satan? You could also turn that around... We can ascribe a compound symbol to Saturn.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6226036544608625413

[lordzoma]

Read the terra papers linked in my language of the stars thread in reptilian, and you'll have your answers.

[humito]

[QUOTE=cruise4;610013]Maybe they had to 'suggest' it back then for us to see it occur now, ie. programming. Saturn = Satan? You could also turn that around... We can ascribe a compound symbol to Saturn.

Saturn has nothing to do with satan or evil............research the origins of the word satan and you will see it originaly meant opposition...........its unfair to assume that saturns influence is evil

[lordzoma]

Saturn is called The DESTROYER.

[jesta_g]

Saturn has nothing to do with satan or evil............research the origins of the word satan and you will see it originaly meant opposition...........its unfair to assume that saturns influence is evil

sorry dude but "satan" is saturn, also known as chronos (and many other names). remember just like jesus (in the bible) is symbolic as the sun so is satan symbolic of saturn , also to add to that Lucifer was the fallen (destroyed) planet known as Tiamat/maldek and many ther names to many cultures. All astro-theology.


now back to the important stuff .....

[oddblock]

:eek: That is absolutely amazing!! Perfect shape too...

Anybody have any ideas on what could posibly have caused/created this?! Strange magnetic fields?

WOW!

[jesta_g]

Maybe they had to 'suggest' it back then for us to see it occur now, ie. programming. Saturn = Satan? You could also turn that around... We can ascribe a compound symbol to Saturn.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6226036544608625413

cruise dude you (and anyone else )have totally gotta listen to this track....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YWuP_QZSdOk&feature=related

while watchin that video (illuminati matrix) . i feckin love when music and images work so well.

the muscisian is Karl Sanders and this album "Saurian Meditation" is a side project frm his main band called Nile , which is a very awesome egyptian death metal band that know what their writing about, very cool stuff.
anyway dude totally try listenin to that track while watchin the video. totally adds to emotion .

[humito]

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm

[humito]

I thought that satan was lucifer or the morning star ...Venus

[humito]

also I thought satans symbol was the pentagram not the six pointed star you get from a hexagram........if i remember Saturn was called El in ancient times
and is connected to the angels the Elohim the star of david also thats why you have IS RA -EL and GabriEL etc with angles...........granted lucifer was a fallen angel............anyway I think my brain will explode shortly due to all the contradictions i keep comming across in my research.i think im in Robert anton wilsons Chapel perilous..........time for a holiday:D

[jesta_g]

also I thought satans symbol was the pentagram not the six pointed star you get from a hexagram........if i remember Saturn was called El in ancient times
and is connected to the angels the Elohim the star of david also thats why you have IS RA -EL and GabriEL etc with angles...........granted lucifer was a fallen angel............anyway I think my brain will explode shortly due to all the contradictions i keep comming across in my research.i think im in Robert anton wilsons Chapel perilous..........time for a holiday:D

lol the acient symbol for saturn (satan) is a pentagram inside a hexagram

indeed the brain does go all haywire after a while. dont worry, its not really that that its contracdicting its just that theres more to the big picture that needs to be taken in.

I thought that satan was lucifer or the morning star ...Venus

if ya really read the bible you will see that satan and lucifer are 2 seperate "characters".

lucifer is indeed the morning star which is now known as venus, however look into the history of venus.Tiamat was once the morning star as it was the "second sun" (although it was actually a planet) in the sky at that time and shined (the shining one) so bright as it was nearly as large as our main sun, Tiamat had a bright atmosphere and was almost entirely ocean based.
venus was a large chunk of the planet tiamat (lucifer/maldek etc) which then can be seen as basically the "new tiamat" or in this case Lucifer the morning star.
venus didnt appear in the night sky and was not mentioned until a specific time in history around the time of the second great deluge ("noahs" flood) as this was brought on by the destruction and falling chunks of Tiamat which can now also be seen as the asteroid belt.

there are alot of books, scientific notes and historical accounts that can back this up. Tiamat is a very interesting subject indeed as i feel a good part of our (human) history belongs to there.


its worth looking into the "the jupiter project" and the "saturn project" which involved the powers that be attempting to blow up saturn and making it become another second sun (could this be what is symbolised as the return or coming of satan???).
the jupiter project was long ago during the "war of the gods" between mars/earth and tiamat (and as i understand many other planets/star systems.) this is mentioned in a couple of interviews on the project camelot site and i came across a good few books on it. once ive got some time ill do a lil search for some links and sources for ya to check out :)

ive came to an idea that the powers that be want a second sun in order to use it as a "gateway" / "portal" to travel through. Nassim Haramein goes into the idea that the sun is a portal to all the dimensions which is very interesting indeed. once again this is just an idea but i have managed to gather a good bit of information on it, ill keep posted once ive came to a better idea and conclusion.

either way i still would like to know why the PTB want to create a second sun.

[humito]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gTh8kcCvlTY&NR=1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BXy_8KVZS9I&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFdndWjz9w&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1gUf5zWuB_A&feature=related

I have also read somewhere that Saturn has the capability to explode and turn into a second sun.............so maybe it could be Satan/Lucifer and be the lightbringer after all!!!........rumours are that it will explode in 2010 or something.........2 years before the earth does..............think I will take that holiday:D

[humito]

lol the acient symbol for saturn (satan) is a pentagram inside a hexagram

indeed the brain does go all haywire after a while. dont worry, its not really that that its contracdicting its just that theres more to the big picture that needs to be taken in.



if ya really read the bible you will see that satan and lucifer are 2 seperate "characters".

lucifer is indeed the morning star which is now known as venus, however look into the history of venus.Tiamat was once the morning star as it was the "second sun" (although it was actually a planet) in the sky at that time and shined (the shining one) so bright as it was nearly as large as our main sun, Tiamat had a bright atmosphere and was almost entirely ocean based.
venus was a large chunk of the planet tiamat (lucifer/maldek etc) which then can be seen as basically the "new tiamat" or in this case Lucifer the morning star.
venus didnt appear in the night sky and was not mentioned until a specific time in history around the time of the second great deluge ("noahs" flood) as this was brought on by the destruction and falling chunks of Tiamat which can now also be seen as the asteroid belt.

there are alot of books, scientific notes and historical accounts that can back this up. Tiamat is a very interesting subject indeed as i feel a good part of our (human) history belongs to there.


its worth looking into the "the jupiter project" and the "saturn project" which involved the powers that be attempting to blow up saturn and making it become another second sun (could this be what is symbolised as the return or coming of satan???).
the jupiter project was long ago during the "war of the gods" between mars/earth and tiamat (and as i understand many other planets/star systems.) this is mentioned in a couple of interviews on the project camelot site and i came across a good few books on it. once ive got some time ill do a lil search for some links and sources for ya to check out :)

ive came to an idea that the powers that be want a second sun in order to use it as a "gateway" / "portal" to travel through. Nassim Haramein goes into the idea that the sun is a portal to all the dimensions which is very interesting indeed. once again this is just an idea but i have managed to gather a good bit of information on it, ill keep posted once ive came to a better idea and conclusion.

either way i still would like to know why the PTB want to create a second sun.
just read ya post .cheers for the info...........is this from Sitchin?

[jesta_g]

just read ya post .cheers for the info...........is this from Sitchin?

nope, im not really much of a fan of Sitchins work, to be honest i think he's an insider or he is holding information back.
the fact that he avoids the reptilian subject is one reason that leads me to this conclusion of Sitchin and his wrk.

i have read his books but my understanding of Tiamat/venus etc has come from other writers like Michael tsarion/carl sagan/richard hoagland/ ds allen and js delair - (really interesting book titled when the earth nearly died) to name a few specific writers, most information tho also comes from historical accounts/myths and legends and scientific/astrological/cosmological and geographical papers and reports :)

[humito]

perhaps TPTB need to create a second sun as a means of escaping the solar system in the event of things not turning out their way? or maybe the other Power that IS will cause it to explode to alter its influence on earth in some way........

[humito]

:eek: wasnt Tsarion recently exposed as a freemason? tbh i dont trust him or ike or many of the like ..........I think they are all disinfo lol

[jayelowell]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[humito]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MyKc5D62Cuc just thought i would post this vid here for a laugh showing occult saturn symbology in the entertanment indudustry etc

[humito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwUOHGug7O4

yeh just finished these...very interesting cheers

[jesta_g]

:eek: wasnt Tsarion recently exposed as a freemason? tbh i dont trust him or ike or many of the like ..........I think they are all disinfo lol

i wouldnt be surprised if tsarion is a free mason, i wont hold it against him, the same really goes for any disinfo.
David Icke and Tsarion come across as good hearted people who have information to share and in my eyes any info is good info.
each bit is a stepping stone or a door to asking or answering further questions. I really dont expect myself or anyone to have the one true answer, because if it could be found then life and existence just wouldnt have that sense of mystery to it which no matter how frustrating it gets is a beautiful thing to experience.

with information i see it as ideas, nothing more, because ideas can be reshaped and altered to fit your own current awareness, the information that icke/tsarion/sitchin etcetc, the list goes on, can be seen as a bridge for the indivual to find their own interpretation of the truth.

do i see the same color of red as you do ?

if ya know what i mean.
as i mentioned about sitchin , i dont fully trust him and im not really a fan of his work but i will take what he has to say and add it to the information from many other sources to gradually build a larger picture which can be changed over time as more solid evidence falls into place.
there are many things that we all know for certain are true that is said by sitchin/icke tsarion etcetc its just the knitty gritty shit that gets confusing but thats all part of the "game", there are millions of sources out there from nature/witness accounts/ historic evidence/legends/common sense/science etcetc

eventually we will have a good enough answer but i can guarentee that as soon as this reality breaks down and we become part of the all oneness of the "multi-verse" there will be a billion more questions to ask , which personally i cant wait for, im quite happy with the idea of spending eternity discovering the beauty of all that is in and out of existence.

but first things first (since we have all eternity to discover) im hitchhiking around the "multi-verse" trying out all psycadelics and weeds ;):D , shibby.

[lordzoma]

Jesta - you NEED to read the terra papers.

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/research/terrapapers.pdf

[jesta_g]

Jesta - you NEED to read the terra papers.

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/research/terrapapers.pdf

:o the page isnt opening for me, do you have another link?

o0o00o i quite excited, what is it about?

[jesta_g]

is it this?







Terra Papers

by Robert Morning Sky

Condensed from Robert Morning Sky’s book

from Perspectives Magazine, March/April 1996




The Suppressed History of Planet Earth


I am called ’Morning Sky.’ I grew up hearing the stories my grandfather told of a Space Being he helped rescue. My grandfather was one of six young Native Americans who witnessed the crash of a spaceship in 1947, shortly after the now-famous Roswell incident.


When they reached the site, they found one being still alive. They took him back to their camp where they hid and nursed him back to health. They called him ’Star Elder’ out of respect; as time passed he revealed his name. He was called Bek’Ti. He revealed to them the history of mankind and the planet Earth.

In the late 1960’s, when I started college, I found myself entertaining the possibility that these stories might not be true. I thus enrolled in Religious Studies, an independent study program that would allow me an opportunity to research ancient records to prove or disprove the many stories of Star Elder.

I submitted to my Religious Studies professor a thesis that summed up my three years of research. It was entitled "Terra, A Hidden History of Planet Earth." Within days, he had labeled it "a work of blasphemy and outrage!" It nearly got me thrown out of school.

Having had no success in the academic field, I decided to contact then existing UFO organizations and researchers. The general response was to label the work,

"the stuff of myth and legend of Native Americans, not suitable to the serious study of a scientific phenomena."

The total rejection made me angry. For nearly thirty years, I refused to even pick up a book on UFO’s or New Age Phenomena. I religiously refused to read or listen to what is out there.

Circumstances have changed. My Grandfather is gone, but not before he had elicited a promise from me to try once more to tell the story.

The history of mankind and Earth as revealed by Bek’Ti is both exciting and frightening. Man’s creation and his place in the galaxy is made clear, but in the process, Man’s nobility and pride are injured. The abduction phenomena and the attending grey beings are integral parts of humanity’s history, and explained against a framework of the Star Beings’ purposes for mankind.

The sources of Man’s religions and the origins of legendary figures like Zeus, Osiris, Isis, the Minotaur and a number of other ’mythological’ beings are explained and also placed into the framework of Earth’s history.




The Story of Man’s Creation


In our galaxy are billions of Star Beings. Humanoid races are the rule, not the exception. These races descended from many life forms: reptiles, insects, dinosaurs, birds and other life forms mankind cannot begin to imagine.

One of the oldest Star Races in this sector of the universe is the reptilian Ari-An which descended from dinosaur ancestors in the star system of Orion. Ruled by Queens, they created the most powerful empire in this galaxy. Ari-An warriors were unmatched for ferocity and bravery, and the Ari-An Empire was unmatched in power and size.

Millions of years of countless battles had allowed this Empire to develop advanced war strategies. Among these, the Ari-An practiced "conditioning" or "reprogramming" to control conquered populations and make them assets rather than liabilities. Enemies became obedient servants of the reptilian queens’ throne. In this way, the Ari-Ans eliminated resistance.

An unexpected evolution of another race in the star system Sirius posed a threat to the Ari-An Empire. Though not as old or as advanced as the reptilians, the warriors of the Kanus Empire, a doglike race (similar to wolves) made up for any lack with their fierceness. Even the most disciplined of the Ari-An warriors feared these vicious and barbaric Sirian warriors, who stopped to devour the flesh of their enemies on the battlefield.

Rapid advancement of the Sirian warriors threatened the very existence of the Ari-An Empire. As a result, the queens approached the Sirian kings to offer an alliance. A treaty was agreed upon that delineated which sectors of the galaxy each empire was to rule and, for a time, the warriors of both empires fought side-by-side.

With the birth of a new star system was born, the Sirian King was quick to claim it. As the Sirians began to exploit its resources, this new system became an outpost for both the Ari-An and Sirian Empires, and the power and wealth for both continued to grow. But eventually war broke out again, this time among rival Sirian kings. In the end, Ari-An forces joined King An. Entire worlds held by the opposition were totally destroyed, including their moons and colonies.

Much later, King An sent his son Prince Ea and daughter, Princess Nin-Hur-Sag (both genetic scientists) to rebuild the destroyed world of Eridu and once again tap into the valuable and much needed resources found there. They successfully restored the atmosphere; refilled the seas with life; recreated plants, trees and flowers; and hybridized many different kinds of creatures. The planet Eridu (Earth) was reborn.

New creatures were produced to inhabit the planet. One such creature, Apa-Mus, was an ape-beast hybrid whose only purpose was to serve and to slave in the fields and mines. But this beast was different from the others. It could understand orders and could communicate. Princess Nin-Hur-Sag had genetically engineered the ape-beast hybrid by using her own DNA. The beast grew in intelligence and began to teach his own quickly multiplying offspring.

When another species of genetically engineered workers -- underground - dwelling Sheti Lizards, revolted and seized power, the ruling Star Beings fled from the planet. With the opposition out of the way, the Sheti used mind-control and programming techniques they learned from their masters to alter the memories of the remaining Star Being descendants. Mankind’s knowledge of Star Beings was replaced with myths and legends.

Sheti dominance has been and continues to be challenged by many other star races attempting to regain control of Earth -- and mankind -- for their own purposes. The struggle for power goes on.




Overthrow Attempts -- Past, Present and Future


The reptilian Ari-An race has made several attempts to overthrow the present power on Earth. In the early 20th century, the world-wide Aryan movement nearly succeeded in conquering the entire "docile" world. If, as the author suggests, they are continuing in their efforts, new movements in the supremacy groups will appear. Reptiles will appear in all aspects of the media as friendly or heroic beings, fighting on man’s behalf. Reptilian superheroes will become children’s role models.

Religious uprisings have been staged throughout Earth’s history by the Sirians. The Inquisition, the Papal Wars, the numerous "Messiahs" and the "Miracle Sightings" were engineered by them to bring mankind back into their influence. If they, too, are trying to take over the Earth as the author suggests, then a return to fundamentalism will also occur, as will the increasing appearance of angels and miraculous occurrences.

Patterns show on-going efforts to direct the people of Planet Earth and also predict upcoming events: Mankind will soon be surrounded with images of asteroids and falling fiery comets. Black pigs will be seen everywhere as will angelic figures and miracles. Dinosaurs will become children’s heroes and violence will be the foundation of their play. New airborne diseases, immune to existing treatments, will surface. NASA will be rendered weak and impotent, if not terminated.

A galactic war of conquest rages over our heads. Earth -- and Man -- are the prize.





Crop Circles -- Visual Communications


In an attempt to communicate with the descendants of Star Beings - especially those who are able to remember the "clues" -- visual signals are being sent in the form of crop circles. Signs meant for the Sirian descendants usually have a striking resemblance to ancient Egyptian glyphs, football-shaped designs, circle-in-cross forms, or circles with a dot in the center. They may also appear as mathematical formulations.


Crop circles from the Ari-Ans often have a snake-like form, or insect or bug-like creatures. Whatever the form, crop circles are signs to the descendants that they have not been forgotten.

As a signal that a starship has been dispatched to the solar system and Earth, images of enormous planetary starships and crews comprised of heroic "saviours" of mankind and the Earth will be everywhere. To counter this image of a "good" heavenly body, images of falling asteroids and crashing comets will be used as justification for aiming anti-asteroid missiles skyward for "defensive" purposes.




Forms of Control


Meanwhile, to maintain control of mankind, the Sheti have introduced new devices to continue the bombarding us with a numbing and controlling electronic blanket. Many of these electronic instruments are carried on the person:

Tape and CD players with headphones, virtual reality gear, pagers, pocket games, cellular phones, beepers, etc. are now commonplace.

Drugs of all kinds, legal and illegal (including alcohol, tobacco and narcotics) are part of the control program to keep mankind docile.

Behavior modification to prevent us from being motivated to fight for ourselves, will require that no human being be allowed status as hero. Those who do not fight back, but endure great suffering will become the new "heroes" and role models: victims, martyrs, tortured POWs, and people who die in service to their country.

Population control will increase in intensity and only the select will be allowed to continue. Disappearances and abductions will increase, especially of women and young children. New airborne diseases will appear. Obesity will increase, sexual dysfunction will increase in males, and female menstrual cycles will decrease from 28 days to 25 days.

To maintain control of mankind and keep us stranded on Earth, NASA will be eliminated or severely restricted in its scope. Any evidence of extraterrestrial life will be strictly suppressed and denied.




Mankind’s Hope: Royal Blood


The battle lines have been drawn for a coming galactic war for the domination of planet Earth. As long as mankind seeks salvation "out there," he paves the way for beings vying to become his Overlords. But mankind has another option.


Though born of beasts and bred to serve, mankind was created by the genetic scientists, Prince EA and Princess Nin-Hur-Sag using their own DNA and their own royal blood. This royal line of Sirian Blood entitles mankind to claim Earth its own. This is the story that has been suppressed, the truth that was kept hidden.

As long as mankind accepts Overlords and Gods, we accept an existence of servitude. When we finally remember that our own kingdom has been taken away, when we finally look to ourselves as our own Overlord or God, then and only then will we be free of extraterrestrials.

The author asks the reader to investigate for himself the information presented here. Accept none of it, challenge all of it. Decide for yourself if the words of Bek’Ti are true.

You are your own god,

you are the master of your destiny,

if you can remember The Truth.





Note:

Robert Morning Sky travels almost constantly, mesmerizing audiences large and small around the world. He demonstrates traditional Native American dances, then tells this story in living rooms, theatres, in school auditoriums, on radio and TV shows and in personal interviews -- anywhere people will listen to him. He has quickly become a favorite speaker at Expo’s and UFO conventions. His words resonate with truth. People receive answers to far more questions than they could ever think to ask, and they come back to hear him again and again.


Morning Sky has been subjected to several burglaries at his office with confidential files and computer equipment stolen. His travel trailer was vandalized. His life has been threatened. He has suffered great losses, but he made a promise to his grandfather, and that promise will not be broken, no matter the cost.

[humito]

am called ’Morning Sky.’ I grew up hearing the stories my grandfather told of a Space Being he helped rescue. My grandfather was one of six young Native Americans who witnessed the crash of a spaceship in 1947, shortly after the now-famous Roswell incident.


When they reached the site, they found one being still alive. They took him back to their camp where they hid and nursed him back to health. They called him ’Star Elder’ out of respect; as time passed he revealed his name. He was called Bek’Ti. He revealed to them the history of mankind and .................................................. .................................................. ....................told them how he could navigate his spacecraft millions of miles through space ,dodging wormholes,meteorites ,space debris and then find a nice piece of flat dessert with nothing for miles around,then crash into it live.........mmmmmmmmmmm:rolleyes:

[jesta_g]

ive been thinking about that post i just put up, the terra papers. i have a few questions (for whom i dont know i just wanna ask them) and also a few ideas to add or clarify...

firstly, i take it that the post i put up is not the full "terra papers" and that there is more to read?


witnessed the crash of a spaceship in 1947, shortly after the now-famous Roswell incident.

is there any information on this specific crash that happened after the roswell event? i havnt heard of any other "ufo" crashes in that year.
what does it have to do with Roswell?
do the government/powers that be/elite shoot down "alien" aircraft that could be attempting to contact or help us? im sure ive read and heard of this happening as the PTB are very protective of their "slaves" and will no doubt be fully monitoring the planet for any outside influences coming to the planet.


They called him ’Star Elder’ out of respect; as time passed he revealed his name. He was called Bek’Ti.

does anyone know or have any information on this "star eldar" Bek'ti?
what "alien" species/race was this being?
from what pat of the galaxy/universe was he from?
what did he look like?

One of the oldest Star Races in this sector of the universe is the reptilian Ari-An which descended from dinosaur ancestors in the star system of Orion.

it is pretty clear that the "Ari-an" is the ANNUNAKI race and also where the term/name Aryan comes from.
this also suggests and "confirms" that the Aryan race (predominatly white race?) are descended from the Annunaki race.
also the ANNUNAKI are ancestors of dinosaurs so (as i have came to understand) were created by the Sirian (reptilian) race. can anyone confirm this?


Millions of years of countless battles had allowed this Empire to develop advanced war strategies. Among these, the Ari-An practiced "conditioning" or "reprogramming" to control conquered populations and make them assets rather than liabilities. Enemies became obedient servants of the reptilian queens’ throne. In this way, the Ari-Ans eliminated resistance.

tho they have lost their advanced technologies due to becoming stranded on this planet during the "war of the gods" and the earth's reaction of having a pole-shift we can basically say that the PTB that are descended from these beings are still very much upto their same old strategies of "conditioning" and "reprogramming" to control the population.

An unexpected evolution of another race in the star system Sirius posed a threat to the Ari-An Empire. Though not as old or as advanced as the reptilians, the warriors of the Kanus Empire, a doglike race (similar to wolves)


ok so not only was there a reptilian race in the sirius system but also a "Dog" race?
with this we can see where the egyptian "god" (dog) Anubis came from. Anubis had a Jekyl head (wolf like) and was also symbolc of the star Sirius which is known to many cultures as the DOG star.

Dog = God

when they say "god" they are playing a trick on your eyes.
when someone reads "backwards" what are they said to have? Dyslexia!
Dyslexia - "to go against the law"
"Dys" = to go against , "Lexia" = the law.
"they" are teaching us to read and write from left to right yet all the ancient scriptures are written right to left - aramic (hebrew), syriac (Arabic) etc

so lets "go against the law" and read GOD, becomes DOG.

Anubis is the "GOD" of the "Dead" so who is the "dead"? - the caucus people, the "white" race that is also the Aryan people,
is Caucus (the "dead" people) where we get the word carcass from?

the bible comes from the Egyptian book of the dead which became the Torah then the bible which they will now call it the "new testament" which it is nothing more than the new book of the dead!
what is the new testament? the book of John.
what/who is mathew, mark, and luke? nothing and noone, they didnt exist.
who is Mark? - Mark Antony 82-30 B.C.

who was Mark Antony? he was the "father" of JAH-SEUS !!
JAH = JAHOVAH, God of the "Jews"
SEUS = ZEUS , Deity of the Greeks.

Mark Antony is "Jesus" !!

the father and the son were said to be the same person/god.


Mark Antony was of the people who had "no colour" who were said to be "transparent", they were not "sun" people but "moon" people meaning "of the moon cycle". does this have anything to do with the artificial moon??
which is also where we get the word "Ghost" which is also where we get the name "goat".

GOAT - CAPRICORN/NIMROD/DECEMBER/JESUS

THE RAM WAS ALSO A SYMBOL FOR MARS (MAR=RAM BACKWARDS), MARS WAS THE GOD OF WAR!!

Ghost - the father, the sun and the holy ghost (holy goat!!!)

http://a4.vox.com/6a00ccff9823bf6ea500d4141a23b46a47-500pi

notice the pentagram which is one of the symbols for SATURN/SATAN.

this links also the symbol of the star and the cresent. SATURN and the MOON = SATAN + LUNA .

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-countries-flags/pakistan-flag.gif

http://www.holyorderofmans.org/mary_o72.jpg

-notice the stars around her head (EU flag = Europa) standing on a CRESENT MOON.

EUROPA (NIN-HUR-SAG, SEMIRAMIS, DANA, DIANA, MARY) who rode on a bull.
http://www.xtywebworks.ns.ca/images/EB1.jpg

Bull is symbolic of NIMROD (Moloch,MINOTAUR, MINOS.) Nimrod was born on the 25dec of a virgin birth and was crucified and reserected.

MINOS is also where we get Moses


who was Mark Antonys wife? Cleopatra 69 - 30 B.C. who was also Known as Hera .

HERA, Daughter of CRONUS (CRONUS = SATURN (SATAN)) was the wife of ZEUS!
ZEUS= JAH-SEUS = JESUS, WHO IS MARK ANTONY!
MARK ANTONY + CLEOPATRA = ZEUS + HERA

ZEUS - BORN ON DECEMBER DEC 25TH, CRUCIFIED ON A TREE AND RESERECTED!

Cleopatra was the daughter of Ptolemy, where we get the Egyptian "god" PTAH (from the book of the dead that later became the bible) which is where we get PETER from the new testament.

Egyptian book of the dead = the bible

PTOLEMY=PTAH=PETER

PTAH is also spet PETEH which is .... PETER.

PTAH - Described as having green skin (reptilian?)

- Ptah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was said (in the Shabaka Stone) that it was Ptah who called the world into being, having dreamt creation in his heart, and speaking it, his name meaning opener, in the sense of opener of the mouth. Indeed the opening of the mouth ceremony, performed by priests at funerals to release souls from their corpses, was said to have been created by Ptah. Atum was said to have been created by Ptah to rule over the creation, sitting upon the primordial mound.

In Memphis, Ptah was worshipped in his own right, and was seen as Atum's father, or rather, the father of Nefertum, the younger form of Atum. When the beliefs about the Ennead and Ogdoad were later merged, and Atum was identified as Ra (Atum-Ra), himself seen as Horus (Ra-Herakhty), this led to Ptah being said to be married to Sekhmet, at the time considered the earlier form of Hathor, Horus', thus Atum's, mother.

ATUM-RA = AMEN-RA (The eye of RA)

http://www.artuproar.com/uploads/skins/previews_m/eyeofrabirdie.jpg

RA = HORUS (The eye of Horus)

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/347887/2/istockphoto_347887_eye_of_the_one_dollar_pyramid.j pg

HORUS son of OSIRIS (OF-SIRIUS , the DOG star) GOD OF WAR and was also a "hunters" "GOD", the hunter = ORION .Orion is linked to Sirius the DOG star.

Horus was also described as having 12 followers, born of a virgin to ISIS birth on the 25th of dec, was described as the shephard (pharoah = shephard) and the light.

Horus was also described (same with zeus) a having lost an eye or only having one eye.

THE ANTICHRIST IS DESCRIBED AS ONLY HAVING ONE EYE!!!

http://www.remnantofgod.org/images/Jesus_OneEye.jpg
why does Mel Gibson portray Jesus with ONE EYE through out most of the "passion of christ"????

HORUS=JESUS
JESUS=ANTICHRIST!!!!

please watch this -

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9tJ_hh4LSg8

was this "JESUS" character a reptilian??

And nowadays we have the PTB trying to prove the existence of Jesus' bloodline!! This will see the announcement and the rise of a man (the anti-christ) who will claim himself to be descended from "Jesus" and is the new messiah.
The only bloodline this "man" will be of is MARK ANTONY'S!

Christians have traditionally believed that the Old Testament prophecies foretold that the Messiah would be a descendant of David, and the Gospels of Matthew and Luke therefore trace Jesus' lineage to David in fulfillment of this requirement.

David - was the second king of the united Kingdom of Israel (ISIS-RA-EL). He brought the Ark of the Covenant (The capstone of the great pyramid) to Jerusalem, intending to build a temple. David the son of Jesse reigned over all Israel. The time that he reigned over Israel was forty years; he reigned seven years (7=number of the serpent) in Hebron, and thirty-three years in Jerusalem. When he died Solomon his son reigned in his place.

The Temple of SOLOMON (SOL-ON-MON = 3 NAMES OF THE SUN) is the great pyramid in Giza!!!


Rapid advancement of the Sirian warriors threatened the very existence of the Ari-An Empire. As a result, the queens approached the Sirian kings to offer an alliance. A treaty was agreed upon that delineated which sectors of the galaxy each empire was to rule and, for a time, the warriors of both empires fought side-by-side.

The Sirians and the ANNUNAKI fought side by side.
this links to the very informative read "blue blood, true blood" which i highly suggest reading this http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles17a.htm


eventually war broke out again, this time among rival Sirian kings. In the end, Ari-An forces joined King An. Entire worlds held by the opposition were totally destroyed, including their moons and colonies.

"KING AN" is ANU the leader of the ANNUNAKI. One of the many worlds that was destroyed was TIAMAT , "the fall of lucifer".

Much later, King An sent his son Prince Ea and daughter, Princess Nin-Hur-Sag (both genetic scientists) to rebuild the destroyed world of Eridu and once again tap into the valuable and much needed resources found there. They successfully restored the atmosphere; refilled the seas with life; recreated plants, trees and flowers; and hybridized many different kinds of creatures. The planet Eridu (Earth) was reborn.

Prince Ea (YAHWEH = wEHyAH) YAHWEH is YEHOVAH = JEH-SEUS = ZEUS.
NIN-HUR-SAG (NINTI, NANA, DANA, DIANA, SEMIRAMIS, MARY)
ERIDU = EARTH
The valuble resources mostly comprised of GOLD.

The ANNUNAKI created first the reptilian/lizard race (THE ADAM RACE) "make him like us, in our image" , they mined for GOLD for the ANNUNAKI however later revolted. so the ANNUNAKI created MAN however man was mislead(?) by the lizard (snake in the garden) that gave him the knowledge of reproduction however took away his knowledge of the unified consciousness, this is what is known as the fall of man.

When another species of genetically engineered workers -- underground - dwelling Sheti Lizards, revolted and seized power, the ruling Star Beings fled from the planet. With the opposition out of the way, the Sheti used mind-control and programming techniques they learned from their masters to alter the memories of the remaining Star Being descendants. Mankind’s knowledge of Star Beings was replaced with myths and legends.

This Leads up to present day, these reptilians/lizards are the Aryan "rebel" descendants who took control after the ANNUNAKI had fled and have remained in power ever since using the same techniques of mind control to fill us with myths and religions etc in order to generate FEAR to control us.

If, as the author suggests, they are continuing in their efforts, new movements in the supremacy groups will appear. Reptiles will appear in all aspects of the media as friendly or heroic beings, fighting on man’s behalf. Reptilian superheroes will become children’s role models.

just go into the "reptilians in movies" and see how many "reptilian" heroes or characters are shown on television and in movies.....WHY?


Religious uprisings have been staged throughout Earth’s history by the Sirians. The Inquisition, the Papal Wars, the numerous "Messiahs" and the "Miracle Sightings" were engineered by them to bring mankind back into their influence. If they, too, are trying to take over the Earth as the author suggests, then a return to fundamentalism will also occur, as will the increasing appearance of angels and miraculous occurrences.

just look at the fewd "GOD" has in the bible against any other god, why??.
if "god" is the only "god" and is almighty then why does he need to be so protective and jealous with his words and actions??? who is he in competition with??

Patterns show on-going efforts to direct the people of Planet Earth and also predict upcoming events: Mankind will soon be surrounded with images of asteroids and falling fiery comets. Black pigs will be seen everywhere as will angelic figures and miracles. Dinosaurs will become children’s heroes and violence will be the foundation of their play. New airborne diseases, immune to existing treatments, will surface. NASA will be rendered weak and impotent, if not terminated.

just check how many movies etc that depict things fallen from the skies or crashing into earth.... "nibiru?"
look at all the violent brainwashing video games, movies and childrens cartoons and shows.



A galactic war of conquest rages over our heads. Earth -- and Man -- are the prize.

why man?
is it because our body (vessel) is the only body that is truly physical and "perfect" for the density of this dimension??

all of these beings , the ANNUNAKI,sirians , reptilians etcetc are all of higher frequencies and dimensions to us. do they need our bodies/energy t support themselves in order for them to manifest into this dimension??



As long as mankind accepts Overlords and Gods, we accept an existence of servitude. When we finally remember that our own kingdom has been taken away, when we finally look to ourselves as our own Overlord or God, then and only then will we be free of extraterrestrials.

are we currently witnessing the end of their reign of power with the coming shift in consciousness towards the unified consciousness??
i truly believe so.

You are your own god,

you are the master of your destiny,

if you can remember The Truth.

many are slowly but surely remember this. the shift is upon us :)


please can anyone add to this?? feel free to correct anything that is said/theorised or asked here, help would be much appreciated as i feel the answer to our past is becoming clearer and claerer as we build the evidence.

AND PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ANY QUOTES FROM THE BIBLE!! OR ANY OFF TEXT THAT DERIVES FROM THE BIBLE. I have plenty of info on the bible and what it says. I , and im sure many others will prefer as up to date or clear evidence that can stand its ground as being as close to the truth as possible.

this just took me 2 hours to type, im not the worlds fastest typer and i have many screen pages up in front of me and a pile of books at myside.
lol and to be honest i need a big fat dooby after this.

i apologise for any rambling and or any bad punctuation as its half 5 in the morning and my brain is a lil fryed :p

[jayelowell]

I AM AMUN RA
Dr. York Lectures - YouTube

In the beginning I discovered wordplay
I experimented with some syllables from the first to the third day
On the fourth I searched for the words to say
How to compress complex verbiage in the least amount of space
I was perfect at it and mastered the tactic's
On the fifth day I decided I would combine it with mathematics
On the sixth day I became a fanatic and I couldnt kick the habit
I would just look in the mirror and practice
On the seventh cycle, I had to take the day off
I was exhausted I guessed my work will never pay off
But if it happened it to him, it could happen to me
And if it happened to me, it was destined to be

Canibus - Genabis - YouTube

[kasalt]

here is a link to a pic of saturns north pole..........How did the ancients know about this and attribute this magical shape to Saturn???????????? http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034

That's what is on Saturn's north pole.

Have you guys seen what's on Saturn's south pole? Have a look:

http://www.holoscience.com/news/img/Saturn's%20polar%20eye.jpg

Looks like an eye. Sort of reminds me of the CBS News logo:

http://pptshare.secureworksites.com/sites/demos/Logo%20Library/cbs_logo.jpg

[humito]

ya didnt finish the post i mention the hexagon the eye and saturns ring making a conglomerate image a eye in a hexagram in a circle:rolleyes:

[humito]

the terra papers is science fiction based on some facts ............like most of the info provided by conspiracy writers..........it only helps to conceal the truth.IMO:D........

[tjohn]

...also the ANNUNAKI are ancestors of dinosaurs so (as i have came to understand) were created by the Sirian (reptilian) race. can anyone confirm this? I would like that cleared up too.

I think a lot has been confused by what I call digital (black and white) thinking but suppose for instance, that the words Elohim and Anunnaki both are a generic terms and can refer to anyone who came from the sky? Then suppose that non-reptilian as well as reptilian ETs have come to our earth and both have messed around with our genes?

Some people say that the Anunnaki are related to reptiles or are 'Reptilian' but there's no evidence that the human looking ones were more reptilian that we are – other than the symbolism of Serpents which I understand to represent DNA. (by the way, at least some of the human looking Anunnaki appeared to have had dark skin).

We however, are related to earth reptiles through the Primate side. The oldest part of our brain is 'reptilian' and it is where the 'third eye' resides.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42145
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_thirdeye.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/thirdeye02.gif
http://www.proofgodexists.org/brain.gif

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/thirdeyesp02.jpg

See also
http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/d/d_05/d_05_cr/d_05_cr_her/d_05_cr_her.html

[tjohn]

In regard to Serpents, where do we transmit our genes and DNA from?
http://a4.vox.com/6a00ccff9823bf6ea500d4141a23b46a47-500pi
Thanks for that! (was that a pun?)

[runciter]

Cassini Finds Mysterious New Aurora on Saturn

Published: 13 hours ago, 13:59 EST, November 12, 2008

http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/4-cassinifinds.jpg

(PhysOrg.com) -- Saturn has its own unique brand of aurora that lights up the polar cap, unlike any other planetary aurora known in our solar system. This odd aurora revealed itself to one of the infrared instruments on NASA's Cassini spacecraft.

"We've never seen an aurora like this elsewhere," said Tom Stallard, a scientist working with Cassini data at the University of Leicester, England. Stallard is lead author of a paper that appears in the Nov. 13 issue of the journal Nature. "It's not just a ring of auroras like those we've seen at Jupiter or Earth. This aurora covers an enormous area across the pole. Our current ideas on what forms Saturn's aurora predict that this region should be empty, so finding such a bright aurora here is a fantastic surprise."

Auroras are caused by charged particles streaming along the magnetic field lines of a planet into its atmosphere. Particles from the sun cause Earth's auroras. Many, but not all, of the auroras at Jupiter and Saturn are caused by particles trapped within the magnetic environments of those planets.

Jupiter's main auroral ring, caused by interactions internal to Jupiter's magnetic environment, is constant in size. Saturn's main aurora, which is caused by the solar wind, changes size dramatically as the wind varies. The newly observed aurora at Saturn, however, doesn't fit into either category.

"Saturn's unique auroral features are telling us there is something special and unforeseen about this planet's magnetosphere and the way it interacts with the solar wind and the planet's atmosphere," said Nick Achilleos, Cassini scientist on the Cassini magnetometer team at the University College London. "Trying to explain its origin will no doubt lead us to physics which uniquely operates in the environment of Saturn."

The new infrared aurora appears in a region hidden from NASA's Hubble Space Telescope, which has provided views of Saturn's ultraviolet aurora. Cassini observed it when the spacecraft flew near Saturn's polar region. In infrared light, the aurora sometimes fills the region from around 82 degrees north all the way over the pole. This new aurora is also constantly changing, even disappearing within a 45 minute-period.

Provided by NASA

http://www.physorg.com/news145720753.html

[tjohn]

Cassini Finds Mysterious New Aurora on Saturn

Published: 13 hours ago, 13:59 EST, November 12, 2008

http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/4-cassinifinds.jpg

(PhysOrg.com) -- Saturn has its own unique brand of aurora that lights up the polar cap, unlike any other planetary aurora known in our solar system. This odd aurora revealed itself to one of the infrared instruments on NASA's Cassini spacecraft.

"We've never seen an aurora like this elsewhere," said Tom Stallard, a scientist working with Cassini data at the University of Leicester, England. Stallard is lead author of a paper that appears in the Nov. 13 issue of the journal Nature. "It's not just a ring of auroras like those we've seen at Jupiter or Earth. This aurora covers an enormous area across the pole. Our current ideas on what forms Saturn's aurora predict that this region should be empty, so finding such a bright aurora here is a fantastic surprise."

Auroras are caused by charged particles streaming along the magnetic field lines of a planet into its atmosphere. Particles from the sun cause Earth's auroras. Many, but not all, of the auroras at Jupiter and Saturn are caused by particles trapped within the magnetic environments of those planets.

Jupiter's main auroral ring, caused by interactions internal to Jupiter's magnetic environment, is constant in size. Saturn's main aurora, which is caused by the solar wind, changes size dramatically as the wind varies. The newly observed aurora at Saturn, however, doesn't fit into either category.
<snip>
http://www.physorg.com/news145720753.html
Now that's interesting! Would it have anything to do with this I wonder? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwUOHGug7O4

[jesta_g]

the terra papers is science fiction based on some facts ............like most of the info provided by conspiracy writers..........it only helps to conceal the truth.IMO:D........

yes i would agree with this, though i just want to clarify that i wasnt taking them on grounds as evidence.


based on some facts

it is these "facts" that i am interested in.

also this does not answer the many questions i asked and the many many more that i have waiting to ask...

no matter what, all information has a basis of "truth" to it, that is why one must evaluate/investigate everything and raise further questions, just like ol' shirlock holmes - it elementary dear watson.

from these "terra papers", be them truth or not, i have came to an idea/theory which derived not from the "terra papers" but my own work. tho i did use the terra papers in this case as a guideline to ask further questions and "connect the dots" it is byfar not the basis of my understanding.

so rather than paying attention to these "terra papers", as i have said previously this is the first time i have come across them so it barely affects my understandings, all it did was bring up more questions which is always a good thing :D

so lets more concentrate on the "truth" that can be gained here and also answer some of those questions that have been placed in front of us.

i realise that it should actually be put into a seperate thread, which i will get on to as its a completely seperate subject to this thread :).

[humito]

I have read the terra papers and it doesnt come across IMO like an orally passed on story from indians at all.......it comes on like star wars........the truth ,if any ,in it is the same truths that can be found in star wars or any other mythological story that of the battle of good versus evil.......there are no facts to back any of it up that I could find.......it a bloody good read though.......:D

[jesta_g]

I have read the terra papers and it doesnt come across IMO like an orally passed on story from indians at all.......it comes on like star wars........the truth ,if any ,in it is the same truths that can be found in star wars or any other mythological story that of the battle of good versus evil.......there are no facts to back any of it up that I could find.......it a bloody good read though.......:D

lol indeed it is a good read.

still its not really the information that has been provided in "the terra papers" that is of importance it is the questions that have been asked that needs most attention. these have still nt been debated or answered.

the "facts" that im speaking of dont exactly come from "the terra paper" per se but more that we can increase our understanding of the "truth" based around what we can evaluate and question in "the terra papers".

these are some of the "facts i get from what i have read on "the terra papers"... (note : what i highlight is the main point that i get as fact. also ill question some facts that i put)

Fact -
The sources of Man’s religions and the origins of legendary figures like Zeus, Osiris, Isis, the Minotaur and a number of other ’mythological’ beings are explained and also placed into the framework of Earth’s history.

in every religion,pantheon, historical account, myth, legend, belief system and folk lore .

Fact - ] Humanoid races are the rule, not the exception. [/B]These races descended from many life forms: reptiles, insects, dinosaurs, birds and other life forms mankind cannot begin to imagine.

indeed the majority of beings will be of humanoid form.

Fact - One of the oldest Star Races in this sector of the universe is the reptilian Ari-An which descended from dinosaur ancestors in the star system of Orion. Ruled by Queens, they created the most powerful empire in this galaxy.

well there older than us and can be dated back even further than 500 million years ago. and thats probably no time to the "ancient" races.

Fact -
Millions of years of countless battles had allowed this Empire to develop advanced war strategies. Among these, the Ari-An practiced "conditioning" or "reprogramming" to control conquered populations and make them assets rather than liabilities. Enemies became obedient servants of the reptilian queens’ throne. In this way, the Ari-Ans eliminated resistance.

just look at the NWO's use of "conditioning" and "reprogramming", we can see that this has and indeed still is being used (in a large scale) to control the masses.

Fact? - the queens approached the Sirian kings to offer an alliance. A treaty was agreed upon that delineated which sectors of the galaxy each empire was to rule and, for a time, the warriors of both empires fought side-by-side.

- this is something that has been mentioned in many of sources and is suggest throughout many ancient cultures around the planet. I feel the races of ANU did unite with the Sirians (be them a "DOG" race or not) with a common purpose.

Fact - Entire worlds held by the opposition were totally destroyed, including their moons and colonies.

- with the knowledge and understanding of the history of TIAMAT and its destruction that lead it to become the asteroid belt and venus (possibly eath?). we can say that it is fact that these races did destroy whole planets, and very likely moons also.

Fact -
Much later, King An sent his son Prince Ea and daughter, Princess Nin-Hur-Sag (both genetic scientists) to rebuild the destroyed world of Eridu and once again tap into the valuable and much needed resources found there. They successfully restored the atmosphere; refilled the seas with life; recreated plants, trees and flowers; and hybridized many different kinds of creatures. The planet Eridu (Earth) was reborn.

this is spoken of, almost identically, all around the world by the ancient civilisations. The Sumerian Hierarchial "pantheon" is confirmed as being AN (ANU), his sons Prince Ea (aka ENKI) , ENLIL and his daughter NIN-HUR-SAG, this pattern of ruling elite Deities has continued throughout history from the Mesopotamians, Babylonians, The cult of Minerva (lilith/Diana/Dana/nimrod/moloch) , the egyptians both north and south and many more.
these deities in particular in the sumerian texts are indeed described as replenishing the planet and restoring it back to its natural form.
Earth was known as ERIDU - Eridu was founded by the Sumerian deity Enki, later known by the Akkadians as Ea. In Sumerian mythology, Eridu was the home of the Abzu temple (the great pyramid) of the god Enki, the Sumerian counterpart of the Akkadian water-god Ea. Like all the Sumerian and Babylonian gods, Enki/Ea began as a local god, who came to share, according to the later cosmology, with Anu and Enlil, the rule of the cosmos. His kingdom was the waters that surrounded the world and lay below it.
In early Eridu, Enki's temple was known as E-abzu, or E-engura ("House of the subterranean waters" due to Enki's association with water), and was located at the edge of a freshwater marsh, an abzu. His wife, known by various names including Ninki, Ninhursanga, Damgulnanna, Uriash, and Damkina had a nearby temple, the E-shag-hula ("house of the sacred lady").

This where we get Neptune from and his trident, which has since been a symbol of the ruling elite. Posieden( the capital of ATL-AN-TIS) was "home" to the deity neptune. from water i have gathered the temple of Poseiden could also be the great pyramid.
how far dwn does the great pyramid go?
whats under the great pyramid?
i have came to understand that the great pyramid was once under water this is why sea shells etc have been found way up at the tops of the pyramids right across egypt.

Altho the continant of Atlantis once stretched across the planet and was not just one continant but a vast empire very similar to the British Empire. im almost willing to bet that the Great pyramid and the land stretching right across from egypt/ethiopia as far as israel stretchin out towards iraq and saudi arabia (ancient babylon) was once a greatly advanced civilisation that was destroyed during the "war of the gods" and the global disaster that was the great deluge that followed it. the deserts that we see today were once great metropolis' that were reduced to dust and sand due to the andvanced weapons that were used during this war. - this i am going to go into with more detail asap in a seperate post as i have gathered ALOT of information on this.


Fact - New creatures were produced to inhabit the planet. One such creature, Apa-Mus, was an ape-beast hybrid whose only purpose was to serve and to slave in the fields and mines. But this beast was different from the others. It could understand orders and could communicate. Princess Nin-Hur-Sag had genetically engineered the ape-beast hybrid by using her own DNA. The beast grew in intelligence and began to teach his own quickly multiplying offspring.

this has been noted and mentioned throughout history. Ancient African accounts tell of the CHITAURI who came from the stars and ruled over the ape-beast hybrid whose only purpose was to serve and to slave in the fields and mines.. zimbabwe (translats as the "deep-deposit") has huge mountain systems that show evidence of mining for GOLD that dates back 300'000 years ago!! There are human human remains that have been found in the sites/mines that date back to this time and show evidence of manual labour which in volved mining the deposits for GOLD.
why would "man" be mining for Gold over 300'000 years ago?? ....

... IF he was so "primitive".


Fact - When another species of genetically engineered workers -- underground - dwelling Sheti Lizards, revolted and seized power, the ruling Star Beings fled from the planet. With the opposition out of the way, the Sheti used mind-control and programming techniques they learned from their masters to alter the memories of the remaining Star Being descendants. Mankind’s knowledge of Star Beings was replaced with myths and legends.

if has been spoken of throughout history in hundreds of ancient texts and folks lore of the reptilian/lizard/dragon being that lived underground all over the planet. It is also widely known that these "Lizards" revolted against their masters and begain a new culture/civilisation on the continant of Lemuria. this lead to a further great battle that occured prir to the second great flood.

alter the memories of the remaining Star Being descendants. Mankind’s knowledge of Star Beings

this is what i explained as these ETHERIC (ETHIOPIA, ETHER EARTH ETC ) beings were "placed" into the vessels of there domesticated ape-man bodies and manipulated their DNA so they would not know the Truth of there existence and connection to all that is the unified consciousness. it is in us , Humans, that we hold the "energy"/"key" to seeing and knowing the "truth" of our "reality".


Fact - Sheti dominance has been and continues to be challenged by many other star races attempting to regain control of Earth -- and mankind -- for their own purposes. The struggle for power goes on.

this is what David icke and many others have been aiming to expose for many years now. The evidence to support this is over-whelming throuh out histry and in our genetics.

Fact -
Religious uprisings have been staged throughout Earth’s history by the Sirians. The Inquisition, the Papal Wars, the numerous "Messiahs" and the "Miracle Sightings" were engineered by them to bring mankind back into their influence. If they, too, are trying to take over the Earth as the author suggests, then a return to fundamentalism will also occur, as will the increasing appearance of angels and miraculous occurrences.

this we are witnessing at its peak today as more "evidence" is found to support "jesus'" bloodline and give "proof" of the esoteric myth that is the bible.
lets not be fooled into again. this upcoming chance to change the tides is closing in and it will be one of our only chances to finally rid our existence of suffering. The truth has always been within us, we needed just to remember it :)

Fact -
Mankind will soon be surrounded with images of asteroids and falling fiery comets.

just look at our movies/magazines/doomsday prophecies etcetc.


Fact - Crop circles from the Ari-Ans often have a snake-like form, or insect or bug-like creatures. Whatever the form, crop circles are signs to the descendants that they have not been forgotten.

this is very likely. think of all the huge ariel views of insects and snakes in Nazca Peru. all the insect and snake images than span across the americas....

at least one question must be asked - are crop circles for or against our benefit?

Fact - As long as mankind accepts Overlords and Gods, we accept an existence of servitude. When we finally remember that our own kingdom has been taken away, when we finally look to ourselves as our own Overlord or God, then and only then will we be free of extraterrestrials.

little needs to be said about this.

You are your own god,

you are the master of your destiny,

if you can remember The Truth.


this is proved and understood with the knowledge of metaphysics and quantum theory. we create our reality therefore we are our own "gods"


so all in all with this small excert from the "terra papers" we can see actually plenty of FACT within it words that can be supported by many other researches/evidence/sources/historical accounts etc etc.....;)

how didnt you come across these "FACTS" ?? :confused::p

wasnt hard to support actually when taking in a bigger picture and alot of seperate sources.



..... now onto answering the plenty of questions that have been placed before us. any other questions and answers are very welcomed. :)