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goldenratio
11-11-2008, 03:07 PM
Blair bodyguard in security scare

Tony Blair is now a Middle East envoy
One of Tony Blair's bodyguards accidentally fired his handgun at Israel's Ben-Gurion International Airport, the BBC has been told.

It is understood he was unloading his gun outside the terminal building before travel when he fired a shot.

No one was hurt but airport security guards and police rushed to the scene.

Former British PM Mr Blair, now an envoy for the Quartet of Middle East mediators, was preparing to leave Israel at the time


hes lucky he didnt get "suicided" off like the last guy to raise a gun at that airport

darketernal
11-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Blair bodyguard in security scare

Tony Blair is now a Middle East envoy
One of Tony Blair's bodyguards accidentally fired his handgun at Israel's Ben-Gurion International Airport, the BBC has been told.

It is understood he was unloading his gun outside the terminal building before travel when he fired a shot.

No one was hurt but airport security guards and police rushed to the scene.

Former British PM Mr Blair, now an envoy for the Quartet of Middle East mediators, was preparing to leave Israel at the time


hes lucky he didnt get "suicided" off like the last guy to raise a gun at that airport


Sorry, but I have fired at least 100 different firearms in my life, and fired 10's of thousands of rounds, and have never heard of any modern firearm discharging while "unloading it".

Most modern high quality handguns are designed to be thrown off a 10 story building or hit with a sledgehammer while chambered, without firing.

Something is going on here we are not being told.

1694
11-11-2008, 03:42 PM
Sorry, but I have fired at least 100 different firearms in my life, and fired 10's of thousands of rounds, and have never heard of any modern firearm discharging while "unloading it".

Most modern high quality handguns are designed to be thrown off a 10 story building or hit with a sledgehammer while chambered, without firing.

Something is going on here we are not being told.

I've ND'd before...well it wasn't an ND in my opinion, I had a stoppage when cocking the rifle immediarly after loading a mag, released the mag, of course as I had tried to cocked it there was one up the spout, as instruced you finish your NSP by firing the rifle into the air not pointed at anything, I expected there to be one in the chamber...no one else did. I got a bollocking, I thought that was what you were supposed to do!

I'm pretty sure you are infact. You do finish the NSP by pulling the trigger don't you? whilst not pointing at anything of course, so he may have left one in the chamber before pulling the trigger, rookie mistake but can happen to anyone.

darketernal
11-11-2008, 04:02 PM
I've ND'd before...well it wasn't an ND in my opinion, I had a stoppage when cocking the rifle immediarly after loading a mag, released the mag, of course as I had tried to cocked it there was one up the spout, as instruced you finish your NSP by firing the rifle into the air not pointed at anything, I expected there to be one in the chamber...no one else did. I got a bollocking, I thought that was what you were supposed to do!

I'm pretty sure you are infact. You do finish the NSP by pulling the trigger don't you? whilst not pointing at anything of course, so he may have left one in the chamber before pulling the trigger, rookie mistake but can happen to anyone.

I've always stored rifles with the action open, however this was a handgun.

1) this individual was not a rookie, he was a trained boyguard of a major political figure. That means he has had formal firearm training, and is extremely proficient and familiar with his weapon. No proficient marksman would ever be in a situation where they do not know if they have a round in the chamber.

2) most handguns can have the action decocked without activating the firing mechanism, and discharging it in such a manner is the norm, becuase many firearms can be damaged by repeated dry-firing without at least a dummy round in the chamber.

3) anyone who handles weaponry regularly would be even more careful in a place where there are bystanders.

That being said, to me all evidence would point to the fact that this round was fired intentionally.

1694
11-11-2008, 04:28 PM
I've always stored rifles with the action open, however this was a handgun.
1) this individual was not a rookie, he was a trained boyguard of a major political figure. That means he has had formal firearm training, and is extremely proficient and familiar with his weapon. No proficient marksman would ever be in a situation where they do not know if they have a round in the chamber.

2) most handguns can have the action decocked without activating the firing mechanism, and discharging it in such a manner is the norm, becuase many firearms can be damaged by repeated dry-firing without at least a dummy round in the chamber.

3) anyone who handles weaponry regularly would be even more careful in a place where there are bystanders.

That being said, to me all evidence would point to the fact that this round was fired intentionally.

Yeah you do that, maybe evn witha breach flag, but before you put em away you do your NSP to make sure its empty no? Then when you pick it up, NSP again to make sure no one has left it with one in the chaimber before you load it.

darketernal
11-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Yeah you do that, maybe evn witha breach flag, but before you put em away you do your NSP to make sure its empty no? Then when you pick it up, NSP again to make sure no one has left it with one in the chaimber before you load it.

It is standard procedure to open the action on a firearm someone has handed you to make certain the chamber is clear, unless I know it to be loaded and I intent to fire the round in the chamber. Virtually everyone I know who handles firearms regularly does the exact same thing. I've seen a new gun handed around a group of friends, just like the other day my best friend, who is a police officer, and two of my ex-military friends were all inspecting a new .45 one of them had purchased, and every single person down the row, opened the action to check for a chambered round, dispite just having watched someone else do this.

I however prefer not to handle a weapon another has chamber personally, but in an emergency situation, like I've wrestled a weapon away from someone and need to use it to bring down another immediately threat I would make an exception... but only in a life and death emergency.

sukyspook
11-11-2008, 04:51 PM
Tony bliar and Israel......there's nothing else to say really is there....

pinkgrapefruit
11-11-2008, 06:17 PM
What a shame he missed!:rolleyes:

astrochicken
11-11-2008, 06:56 PM
Can't wait to hear what yarn sorcha faal spins out of this :)

sukyspook
11-11-2008, 09:45 PM
What a shame he missed!:rolleyes:

Yeah - I'd have made damn sure I didn't miss!