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lightgiver
10-11-2008, 02:05 AM
For those who have not seen this;)

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/oil_smoke_mirrors.php

something else to cheer us all up,great vid though,

Its all smoke and mirrors;)

humito
10-11-2008, 02:26 AM
cheers for posting;)

onourwayto2012
10-11-2008, 03:27 AM
Great vid for the most part... but the whole "peak oil" thing has been questioned....quite stongly

lightgiver
10-11-2008, 07:28 PM
This vid is recommended to watch,all the people on the forum and web,and only 2 reply s,sums it up doesn't it,no wonder we are in the shit:(

Thats it masses keep putting your head in the sand and hope it goes away:p

Maybe i should have put britney and peak oil,and put it in todays news,it would have got more attention,next time i will do that for a test and see how many views it gets,i bet its more than what this as had,shit creek comes to mind.

Or maybe amy wine house flys a plane drunk:rolleyes:550 views,

this one 33 views,and thats probably me and a couple of others:D

Well asleep.

lightgiver
12-11-2008, 12:15 AM
This vid is recommended to watch,all the people on the forum and web,and only 2 reply s,sums it up doesn't it,no wonder we are in the shit:(

Thats it masses keep putting your head in the sand and hope it goes away:p

Maybe i should have put britney and peak oil,and put it in todays news,it would have got more attention,next time i will do that for a test and see how many views it gets,i bet its more than what this as had,shit creek comes to mind.

Or maybe amy wine house flys a plane drunk:rolleyes:550 views,

this one 33 views,and thats probably me and a couple of others:D

Well asleep.

56,still not catching amy up,ha ha,you all must have seen this one,or you are just fed up with it all:confused:

stelios
12-11-2008, 01:07 AM
I was wondering when the peak oil spammers would feel brave enough to poke out from where they had been hiding.
Havent heard from them for months.

Peak oil is a lie and the people who promote it and hold big conferences are paid by the oil industry. There is plenty of oil, gas, shale, oil sand, coal, to last hundreds of years. Only 4% of the earth has even been explored for oil.
And there are so many cheap alternatives like ethanol made from sugar cane, or bio diesel, or Algae which produce a never ending supply of oil.

lightgiver
12-11-2008, 01:28 AM
I was wondering when the peak oil spammers would feel brave enough to poke out from where they had been hiding.
Havent heard from them for months.

Peak oil is a lie and the people who promote it and hold big conferences are paid by the oil industry. There is plenty of oil, gas, shale, oil sand, coal, to last hundreds of years. Only 4% of the earth has even been explored for oil.
And there are so many cheap alternatives like ethanol made from sugar cane, or bio diesel, or Algae which produce a never ending supply of oil.

:confused:peak oil spammers:confused: elaborate further please,i do not even know what a spammer is?

I posted it more to do with 911,that's why its in the 911 section. why are people so edgy?

This is the only spam i know

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=TggQTO64TQY
1 vid posted

by the way stelios i got the link from your link on the recommended viewing thread, hhhmmm.

http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/documentaries.php
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/documentaries.php

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drael
12-11-2008, 06:30 AM
Peak oil is a lie and the people who promote it and hold big conferences are paid by the oil industry.


I promote it. I dont work for those companies.


There is plenty of oil, gas, shale, oil sand, coal, to last hundreds of years. Only 4% of the earth has even been explored for oil.

There is yes more gas. However having a brother who actually works in mining, i can tell you that the drills generally get deeper, which requires more expensive technology for extraction. On top of this, from a pure physics point of veiw, our energy needs increase exponentially because of technology and population growth.

There is a point were we will actually need hydrogen, and a point where we need fussion, like the sun. These points are not far off (still couple hundred years like you say), but if we miss those boats, its full collapse. Still thats not 30 years away, whereas petrols increasing price is very close and very confirmable - but has absolutely nothing to do with "running out of oil".

And there are so many cheap alternatives like ethanol made from sugar cane, or bio diesel, or Algae which produce a never ending supply of oil.

Yes and those have been viable for the hundred years or so we have been using the more expensive petrol. Interesting, no? Based on that alone, i dont expect quick advances or changes in this area.

stelios
12-11-2008, 03:02 PM
I promote it. I dont work for those companies.
A peak oil spammer is someone who promotes a THEORY that is false.
When crude was up to $140 for 159 litres they were everywhere but since the price has dropped back to $60 per 42 Us gallons = 35 UK Gallons, peak oil promoters seem to have gone into hiding.

They fit into the same camp as those who preach eugenics and population control.

A litre of crude oil without the tax costs 37 cents. Compare that with the price of water. Water is cheaper than oil.

lightgiver
12-11-2008, 07:36 PM
A peak oil spammer is someone who promotes a THEORY that is false.
When crude was up to $140 for 159 litres they were everywhere but since the price has dropped back to $60 per 42 Us gallons = 35 UK Gallons, peak oil promoters seem to have gone into hiding.

They fit into the same camp as those who preach eugenics and population control.

A litre of crude oil without the tax costs 37 cents. Compare that with the price of water. Water is cheaper than oil.


but oil will rise again, some bloke months ago on the alex jones show, said it would drop back down again to $50 a barrel,well he was not far off,but in my opinion it will rise again in the near future,and according to the same bloke as well;)
This is 911,thats why the vid was posted here,irrelevent to peak oil.but most of the bankers and neo cons wars are about oil ,and the next stage will be food and water.
to control the population even more,it all stinks,lets direct our anger towards the bankers and elites not peak oil spammers and each other,some of us tend to forget the root of all these evils and who is creating them.
The bankers should stand trial for the mess they have made and governments need to answer a lot of questions,but it is not going to happen because instead of people venting their frustrations towards the real source,we take it out on each other with snidy remarks and putting each other down,this is a time when we should be supporting one another and fighting the evil growing in our world.

qasrose
12-11-2008, 07:40 PM
Thanks for the video lightgiver..

I'm not sure if you sent me that before.

I will check out later on tonight... :)...

Thanks

let's make peace between us :)...

lightgiver
12-11-2008, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the video lightgiver..

I'm not sure if you sent me that before.

I will check out later on tonight... :)...

Thanks

let's make peace between us :)...

Peace always brother:) i do not bear grudges,life is to short,debating always gets heated on such an important issues,and everyone brings something to the table,wisdom is knowing how little we know;)
I just want the truth were it should be coming from,all i am sure of is that 911 was an inside job,and the banking dynasty's have a hand in it and people who hide behind closed doors and make plans in secret.

Whatever are views on 911,with those who know it was an inside job we need to stick together, irrelevant on how we feel it was carried out,and push for a proper investigation and bringing the bankers who have a lot to answer for to JUSTICE.

life,love and unity:)

mynameis
13-11-2008, 01:23 AM
A peak oil spammer is someone who promotes a THEORY that is false.
When crude was up to $140 for 159 litres they were everywhere but since the price has dropped back to $60 per 42 Us gallons = 35 UK Gallons, peak oil promoters seem to have gone into hiding.

They fit into the same camp as those who preach eugenics and population control.

A litre of crude oil without the tax costs 37 cents. Compare that with the price of water. Water is cheaper than oil.

My favorite yarn is they don't know how oil is made, but they say they've poured money into research. I think that the taxes we pay in oil should go to independent research organizations, but that's just me. We could get more for our dollars if public funds went into medical and technological pursuits free of private sector control. Everything would be kept on a government run server for public access. Imagine the capabilities of having free research databases for knowledge deposited through public funds. Anyone on the planet could access the information and be able to contribute if they're qualified. It would be like a Linux for the sciences and technologies.

banoyes
14-11-2008, 03:36 AM
but oil will rise again, some bloke months ago on the alex jones show, said it would drop back down again to $50 a barrel,well he was not far off,but in my opinion it will rise again in the near future,and according to the same bloke as well;)
This is 911,thats why the vid was posted here,irrelevent to peak oil.but most of the bankers and neo cons wars are about oil ,and the next stage will be food and water.
to control the population even more,it all stinks,lets direct our anger towards the bankers and elites not peak oil spammers and each other,some of us tend to forget the root of all these evils and who is creating them.
The bankers should stand trial for the mess they have made and governments need to answer a lot of questions,but it is not going to happen because instead of people venting their frustrations towards the real source,we take it out on each other with snidy remarks and putting each other down,this is a time when we should be supporting one another and fighting the evil growing in our world.
Well the title says 911 and peak oil -then it's irrelevent .. hows that work??
Oil is abiotic..that is it is produce by the earth,a natural function,but the film is all about peak oil, a planted scam
Your right about the rest
but the approach through a bogus film does not work.
want a kick
See who came up with fossil fuel
Then you can move the whole thing into the secret society thread

lightgiver
14-11-2008, 03:44 AM
Well the title says 911 and peak oil -then it's irrelevent .. hows that work??
Oil is abiotic..that is it is produce by the earth,a natural function,but the film is all about peak oil, a planted scam
Your right about the rest
but the approach through a bogus film does not work.
want a kick
See who came up with fossil fuel
Then you can move the whole thing into the secret society thread

I posted the vid because of the 911 link,you can post it somewhere else if you like:D,oil issue is a scam in my eyes also,but we should not be sucking the well dry:p

I think oil as a lot to do with 911,whether its peak or not.IMHO.

http://economics.about.com/b/2007/08/16/how-much-oil-is-left-we-will-never-run-out-of-oil.htm

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Much-Oil-is-Left-in-the-World?&id=393540
Irrelevant link to 911 but there you go??

and by the way people can watch the vid and make their own mind,just like you can,everyone is entitled to an opinion.

banoyes
14-11-2008, 04:20 AM
I posted the vid because of the 911 link,you can post it somewhere else if you like:D,oil issue is a scam in my eyes also,but we should not be sucking the well dry:p

I think oil as a lot to do with 911,whether its peak or not.IMHO.

http://economics.about.com/b/2007/08/16/how-much-oil-is-left-we-will-never-run-out-of-oil.htm

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Much-Oil-is-Left-in-the-World?&id=393540
Irrelevant link to 911 but there you go??

and by the way people can watch the vid and make their own mind,just like you can,everyone is entitled to an opinion.
If the point is 911,oil and the war are all connected I agree

"and by the way people can watch the vid and make their own mind,just like you can,everyone is entitled to an opinion."
Yah
I try to avoid opinion in these areas
Check out abiotic oil,check out how the idea of fossil fuel came about
It's all connected
It's all the same people

lightgiver
14-11-2008, 07:29 PM
If the point is 911,oil and the war are all connected I agree

"and by the way people can watch the vid and make their own mind,just like you can,everyone is entitled to an opinion."
Yah
I try to avoid opinion in these areas
Check out abiotic oil,check out how the idea of fossil fuel came about
It's all connected
It's all the same people

do you have a link please?;)

banoyes
14-11-2008, 07:38 PM
Old post from 2 years ago
The Oil shortage is a tactic of the oil companys .. if such a thing occurs it will be caused, not because there is not enough oil, but because of market control.

The fossil origin of oil was first pronounces by Mikhail Vasilyevich Lomonosov , a Russian Freemason, and is of course a theory
There now exist evidence that oil is produced by the earth , Abiotic Oil Theory somewhat proven by recent NASA discoveries

http://www.geotimes.org/oct05/feature_abiogenicoil.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47675

Dr. M. King Hubbert worked for Shell Oil.I do wonder if he had an agenda, as his Peak Oil theory is controvesial at least and has for the most part been debunked, as the estimated oil reservers have risen.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Monteith/stanley.htm

In 1996, Texaco, in an internal memo, noted: 'The most critical factor facing the refining industry on the West Coast is the surplus refining capacity, and the surplus gasoline production capacity. The same situation exists for the entire U.S. refining industry. Supply significantly exceeds demand year-round. This results in very poor refinery margins, and very poor refinery financial results'" http://text.planetquo.com/The-Peak-Oil-Myth

The Saudi "oil initially in place" numbers, which Lynch refers to, were presented at a Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) meeting in Washington February 24 by Aramco's Manager of Reserves Management, Dr. Nansen Saleri, and Mahmoud Abdul Baqi, VP of Exploration.

They both said that in the last 20 years Saudi Arabia's oil in the subsurface has grown by 100 billion barrels and it currently has "in the ground" 700 billion barrels.

http://www.energybulletin.net/248.html

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2295/No_Peaking_The_Hubbert_Humbug

Global warming being caused by mankinds use of oil is another very suspect tale from the NWO.
This is not to say I am in favor of polution , this is a different issue then global warming.
There are any number of scientest that show this percieved warming is caused by the natural earth cycles, verified by fossil examination.

"Many scientists argue correctly that natural variations in climate are considerable and not well understood. But the Earth has gone through warming periods before without human influence. According to satellite data, air temperatures in the lower atmosphere have not increased appreciably and the sea ice around Antarctica has actually been growing for the past 20 years. Satellite data from NASA says the Earth has only heated by 0.04 of one degree in the last century, that which would be expected from natural fluctuation causes. This data conflicts with that of land-based thermometers and so is not released widely. But landbased measurements are less accurate because they are taken from cities, which are getting warmer all the time due to their expansion and replacing of trees and grasslands with asphalt.(source: science@NASA, October 20th, 2000)

The amount of warming from 1881 to 1993 is 0.54 C. Nearly 70 percent of the warming of the entire time period — 0.37 C —occurred in the first half of the record — before the period of the greatest buildup of greenhouse gases.

Accuracy in land-based measurements of global temperatures is frustrated by the death of stations, frequent station relocations, and changes in how ocean-going ships make measurements.

Although all of the greenhouse computer models predict that the greatest warming will occur in the Arctic region of the Northern Hemisphere, temperature records indicate that the Arctic has actually cooled by 0.88 C over the past fifty years.

http://www.predictweather.com/global_warming/index.asp

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/prog1.htm#suspend

http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html

ooppss

lightgiver
14-11-2008, 07:54 PM
Is that last statement directed to me?? if it is, my name label is not steve,25 yrs since i attended secondary school:rolleyes::D
and its not me who is bitter.i educated myself a long time ago mate,and there is still a way to go,fancy words mean nothing to me.

Wisdom is knowing how little we do know.

banoyes
14-11-2008, 08:03 PM
Is that last statement directed to me?? if it is, my name label is not steve,25 yrs since i attended secondary school:rolleyes::D
and its not me who is bitter.i educated myself a long time ago mate,and there is still a way to go,fancy words mean nothing to me.

Wisdom is knowing how little we do know.
No
sorry
didn't notice that
it's not you at any rate

lightgiver
14-11-2008, 08:08 PM
No
sorry
didn't notice that
it's not you at any rate

Cheers banoyes,:D:D just goes to show i read thoroughly;)and thanks for your links.