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infin8_possibility
09-11-2008, 05:48 PM
Came across this very moving article about the animal soul, its a truely heart-warming read and gives insight into why animals exist...

http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_souls.htm

Part 1 - Animal Souls Live On

Many of us have been faced with the loss of a beloved animal through their death. Aside from the grief over the loss, many people also want to know what happens to their animal after they pass on. Some people are drawn to an animal communicator to verify that the animal is now at peace and to confirm that the right choice was made in helping their animal move out of their physical body. Others may try to communicate themselves with their animal who has passed on.

For those of you who are practicing your animal communication skills and want to venture into this area, the skills needed to do this type of communication are the same as those you’ve been practicing. I thought that both those who are trying to communicate on their own and those who have always wondered about this topic might find it helpful and reassuring to know what animals have shared with me about their soul life after they’ve passed on.

But just a side note before I begin…. What I am sharing are my experiences based upon the work I’ve done over many years as an animal communicator. The purpose of sharing this information is to help people deal with this tragic time through a better understanding of how our animals view this time in their lives.

Others of you may have different experiences or beliefs and I want to be clear that by no means do I feel that the information I have to share is all there is to know or the only truth. I would love to hear your ideas and share them with our subscribers if you would like them shared, as I hope that this newsletter is an opportunity for us to all share our thoughts, so that we may all further our understanding of our animals.

Now back to our topic…. In my experience, animals who pass away continue to live on in spirit or soul form. Transition between life on earth and their pure soul state varies depending upon several factors such as how accepting they are of their death, the suddenness of their death and also whether or not they are a less experienced or older soul.

I’ve found that animals who pass away, whether due to natural causes or because they have been euthanised, have their souls go into a resting state for a period of time. This period seems to help them make the transition from their physical body into their pure spirit form. Many times an animal cannot be reached for a communication during this time or even if they can be reached, it’s best to allow them this quiet time to more easily make their transition.

The length of the resting state seems to vary depending upon how long the soul needs to recuperate. I’ve known animals who have been very prepared for their deaths and were in this state less than a day by our earth time. I’ve known others who remained in this state much longer. Sometimes a sudden death, such as an accident, may take a longer transition too, as the animal was not prepared ahead of time and now needs time to acclimate to the change.

As an example, my 32-year-old horse, Scarborough was in the resting state for less than 4 hours. Two days before he was euthanised, he told me that he was not going to be around much longer. The day of death, we communicated for several hours about his life as Scarborough while he shared the beautiful view from his stall with me. He was very accepting of what was to come and even told me that within the last 48 hours he had begun to remember what it was like in the after life. Although he knew I would be sad, he wanted to reassure me that he knew where he was going and he would be fine. He told me he was going Home.

In contrast to Scarborough, my 14-year-old Labrador, Max, was a much younger soul and really clung to life beyond when her physical body was able to function. She could not see what was ahead and did not want to leave. After many communications with her, she finally agreed that we should help her to move on. However, after her death, she remained in her resting state for over six months, the longest resting state I have known. I did have brief communications with her during this time to be sure she was fine, but it was very evident that she needed all this time to adjust to her new soul life. She still was resisting the change on some level.

So after the resting period, what happens next? We’ll continue this in next month’s newsletter. Be sure to come back to find out more about the next steps and also other insights into this type of communication.

Let me just close this article by saying that in my experience, once you are family to an animal, you are always family to your animal. I’m told over and over again by those who have passed on that they continue to watch over their family. So next time there’s something that reminds you of an animal friend who has passed on, perhaps it’s a reminder that your animal companion is still watching over you.

Full article here (http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_souls.htm)

lordzoma
09-11-2008, 05:58 PM
The majority of humans on earth are incarnated animal souls. They all return to the planetary spirit.

infin8_possibility
09-11-2008, 06:07 PM
The majority of humans on earth are incarnated animal souls. They all return to the planetary spirit.

I disagree I think the human and animal souls have different purposes. Animals are possibly here to help humankind on its path to become aware.

lordzoma
09-11-2008, 06:29 PM
Of course human and animal souls have different purposes. They are on completely different incarnational paths.

The POINT is that there are more humans alive today than are simply needed by higher selves to NEED to incarnate. But humanity keeps on breeding and the numbers go up.

The humans either get incarnated by a higher self that needs that experience, or, like THE MAJORITY of humans these days, gets incarnated by the planetary spirit shimself.

No physical body can be born without an essence incarnating it and making it work. There are no humans without souls. So if a higher self doesn't incarnate the physical body, the planetary spirit will.

infin8_possibility
09-11-2008, 07:16 PM
The humans either get incarnated by a higher self that needs that experience, or, like THE MAJORITY of humans these days, gets incarnated by the planetary spirit shimself.

Well the article above seems to sugest that the animal soul is an individual one. I always thought that the animal soul was collective "planetary spirit", but know I believe otherwise.

lordzoma
09-11-2008, 08:37 PM
They're part of a collective but can learn as an individual. Much in the same way that you and I are separate individual incarnations of a larger whole.

infin8_possibility
09-11-2008, 08:40 PM
They're part of a collective but can learn as an individual. Much in the same way that you and I are separate individual incarnations of a larger whole.

Ahh well that does make the most sense.

lordzoma
09-11-2008, 08:47 PM
What's even more intense about the nature path - is that the collective for each species, acts as an individual while connected to an even larger whole, the planetary spirit shimself. I say shim because shim is both male and female.

So in essence, the planetary spirit is a single entity that controls many different individualities. So when an entire species becomes extinct, the planetary spirit is 'finished' learning all it needs to know from that type of animal.

In this sense any individual animal can be looked on as an extension of both the spirit of the species, as well as the planetary spirit, and I suppose could be totally 'walked in' by the planetary spirit's consciousness if shim wanted to do it. But maybe not. That stuff is outside my realm of knowledge. Native American shamans really know what's going on.

Also on another level the planetary spirit is an extension from the solar consciousness, which leads me to believe that in the nature path, each star incarnates as every planet in its solar system, to fully and totally control all life in that solar system (not including sentient species incarnated by higher selvs), but including the life of the planets shim decides to incarnate in.

FURTHERMORE that means that binary and tertiary star systems have multiple planetary spirit higher selves incarnating, and that would mean the planets in solar systems like that could have multiple planetary spirits in a single planet. Think of the diversity such a planet would have!! It should come as no surprise then that the Sirius planet, homeworld of the Wolf Men, has 3 different stars. That would give their planet an edge and make it more prone to developing a species which would be incarnated by higher selves whom would then extend into a position of such galactic power.

xpleet
10-11-2008, 03:47 AM
Especially many of the more braver and rebellious spirits incarnate in animal bodies because the demigods still have tight control on the reincarnation process of this part (this planet) of their creation and so it's going to stay in the bads.
This is the reason most animals are generally more loving and compassionate than most humans.

They are the same type of consciousness as humans are but their "soul" or what has been refered to as "astral DNA" is what role they play in this matrix, although this is totally out of control as we have aliens animals and humans incarnating no longer in strict order.

I’ve found that animals who pass away, whether due to natural causes or because they have been euthanised, have their souls go into a resting state for a period of time. This period seems to help them make the transition from their physical body into their pure spirit form.

This applies to nearly all beings, it is the undergoing of the filtering-process after death, to become re-programmed to be a 'citizen' of the Astral world (it's not as intense as the washing of memory before birth) until later the system forces them to reincarnate again.

pinkfreud
10-11-2008, 06:46 AM
http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_souls.htm



Full article here (http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_souls.htm)

beautiful post infin8... very touching. i too believe they're more intelligent, more emotive and more spiritual than what we give them credit for.

nimlyn
10-11-2008, 12:24 PM
I’ve had a few dreams about my pets that are no longer alive.

In one dream I was walking a deceased pet dog called Gizmo. Gizmo led me inside a building (like a convention hall / movie set?) where there was a gathering of Star Trek folk. Gizmo then ran up to the actor LeVar Burton who was dressed as Geordi La Forge and he ran around LeVar three times wrapping the leash around the actor’s legs.

With that dream I felt as though the dog was trying to show me that the actor is wrapped up with spiritual things?

In another dream I felt a hard nudge in my thigh and wondered what the heck, I looked down and I saw my daughter’s deceased pony. The pony threw her head back and she made a laughing motion as if she was showing me that she was happy.

Anyhow! I’ve had dreams about deceased people as well but I find that the deceased people in dreams communicate with words as they would do when alive. However the animals will act in the same way as they did when alive but they also seem to be more aware of the spirit?

infin8_possibility
10-11-2008, 11:14 PM
On the article I posted, there is a link to another article about animal purposes/jobs that is another beautiful read...

http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_jobs.htm

Throughout my communication experiences, animals have told me that during their life they have certain tasks or jobs that they need to accomplish. Most of our animals feel very strongly about this work and many times it involves the people that are part of their family. On more than one occasion I’ve had an animal tell me how fortunate they are to be with a particular family because this allows them to do their work. I’d like to cover a few of those jobs and some stories about the animals who have expressed their thoughts on this so well.

As some background for everyone, animals have told me that they are teachers, companions, guardians, healers (both physical and emotional), and communicators. They take their work very seriously and feel a great sense of accomplishment when they are doing their job well. I have been told by many animals that being a service animal, such as a canine companion, therapy horse, police dog or police horse is one of the highest honors in the domestic animal family, as time after time, domestic animals tell me that they wish to serve. The animals are also always quick to tell me that serving people should not be misunderstood. They do not feel that they are subservient when they do this work. It is an honor and something they look at with pleasure and pride.

One of our dogs, Max, a black Labrador, (known as Maxine only when she got in trouble), was once trained to be a service dog. She began first as a companion for the blind and then when that didn’t work out she was transferred to a canine companion unit. Unfortunately, due to Max’s poor eyesight, she was not a successful candidate for either job. Max went on to live as a family dog with a family full of children and then eventually came to live with us. However, it always disturbed her that she was not able to do the job she so much wanted, which was to be a service dog.

I decided we would help Max through this by designing a job for her in our family that was service oriented. Due to Max’s older age, good obedience skills and her quiet demeanor, I began to call Max the Mama Dog. She was now in charge of the other dogs from a caring and nurturing perspective. She was responsible for watching over them and sharing her wisdom on how to be a good family dog.

When Sally, a Labrador mix, joined our family, Max had her hands full. Sally was so active and on more than one occasion she ran into the aging Max almost pushing her to the ground. I told Max how sorry I was that Sally seemed so oblivious to Max's age. In her usual wisdom, Max told me that I needed to look to all the good that Sally brought to our home. She made us laugh with her antics and for Max, she reminded her of her youth when she could do so many more things.

Max was so proud of her new title and duties. She just glowed with her new responsibilities and took them very seriously. We thanked her all the time for doing such a good job and taking on such an important role in our family. Until her death last summer, Max fulfilled her job as service dog to our family with great honor and wisdom. This job gave her a sense of purpose and I can truly say she was more content in her life with this new role.

Next, we’ll take a look at some of the other jobs our animals have chosen. In the mean time, think about the responsibilities your animals take on in your family. And be sure to thank them for a job well done.

I thought this bit was particularly moving...

Rex started out with a wonderful family. He spoke of the love they all had for each other with such emotion that he brought tears to my eyes. His job, he told me, was to teach the children. He was to teach them love and respect.

Full article here (http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_jobs.htm)

pinkfreud
11-11-2008, 05:56 AM
On the article I posted, there is a link to another article about animal purposes/jobs that is another beautiful read...

http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_jobs.htm



I thought this bit was particularly moving...



Full article here (http://www.animal-connection.net/animal_jobs.htm)


http://fc59.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/099/3/f/The_Dramatic_Single_Tear_by_Random_Character.gif

so beautiful.. *blows mi nose* dont u just love their unwavering love and loyalty? we could really learn so much from them.

keep them coming infin8 :o

infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 05:58 AM
http://fc59.deviantart.com/fs10/i/2006/099/3/f/The_Dramatic_Single_Tear_by_Random_Character.gif

so beautiful.. *blows mi nose*

keep them coming infin8 :o

Awww, I know I was fillin up towards the end of the second one as well.

infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 06:16 AM
This is an uplifting story about a pony overcoming adversity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkeLgXocwas

jojo
11-11-2008, 10:19 AM
oh wow what a beautiful thread! so uplifting.

horses and dogs have a special place in my heart and i know from my own experience and communication with these creatures that they do indeed have souls. and they are wonderful healers if we allow them to be.

:)

jojo
11-11-2008, 10:21 AM
This is an uplifting story about a pony overcoming adversity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkeLgXocwas

molly brought a tear to my eye.... what a wonderful role model for kids who have also bore great loss.

horses are such emotional healers for human problems.

infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 07:45 PM
oh wow what a beautiful thread! so uplifting.

horses and dogs have a special place in my heart and i know from my own experience and communication with these creatures that they do indeed have souls. and they are wonderful healers if we allow them to be.

:)

Oh please expand on all this, I'd love to hear your experiences...

jojo
11-11-2008, 07:57 PM
Oh please expand on all this, I'd love to hear your experiences...

sure. i have quite a few... just making the tea then will update... :)

here is a post a made on another thread about healing a sick horse that was due to be put down
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/017.jpg

This one was really a kind of spell for a friends horse. Basically he had really hurt his leg and needed to be put to sleep. The distraught owner had agreed that the vet would come back the following morning and kill him. The horse wouldnt get up from the ground and had little hope.

I conunicated with the horse and he expressed a desire to live so then I offered to draw him for her with an intent for his recovery and she looked at me as if i was bonkers but was also ready to give anything a go so she said "yes"

I drew this with the intent that the spirit guardian of the horse was protecting him from entering the death state. I really focused my intent whilst drawing it.

The next morning the horse was on its feet, withing 24 hours he was eating again. He survived against all odds and againsts the vets prediction.

I offered the picture the the owner, she looked at me abit strangley and out of politeness said "oh....erm, yes". But I would like to think it had an impact. :o... she never bothered to take the drawing, so ive still got it.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn166/bluegoddess777/017.jpg

jojo
11-11-2008, 09:12 PM
I am learning about horses at the moment. Im doing a course in complementary therapy and natural horsemanship.

there is a school of thought/knowledge that horses heal deep emotional wounds in humans (such as past rape, sexual abuse, mental abuse) As they are highly emotional and tellapathic creatures, they often try to heal the humans they come into contact with.... however, more often than not the human does not hear/know.

i know this to be true because of my own profound experiences with my own horses. They have healed me and quite often tell me how they are by empathically transmitting their feelings towards me and i feel it in my own body, also i see an image in my minds eye. If told and shown, anyone can feel their energy too. its so strong when you open up to it.

as the credit crunch hits and more and more healthy horses are being killed or set loose on farmeres land and parks, it is a dream of mine to build a small herd (about 6 horses) all unwanted/abandoned pets. I want to use my future herd to work with children and adults who have been abused and have deep emotional scarring and facilitate the horses to do the healing.

infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 09:19 PM
Ahhh yes I remember reading this post ages ago in your Spiritual Horse thread. :)

Divine work Mrs... :cool:

I like the way the spirit guide is wrapping itself around the leg(s) of the horse resurrecting it back to fitness.

The way you draw, the style you ink a piece of paper with parallels the sublte breeze of wind blowing autumn leaves on an empty courtyard. :)

jojo
11-11-2008, 09:23 PM
The way you draw, the style you ink a piece of paper with parallels the sublte breeze of wind blowing autumn leaves on an empty courtyard. :)
:)

jojo
11-11-2008, 09:43 PM
this was posted on another thread by bicycle, but i think it links in quite nicely with the content of this thread too.... The Ickester speaketh!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=e6fe6VBG3e0&feature=related

infin8_possibility
11-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Yes, well played JJ! ;)

Can't not post this heart-trending video to accompany this thread.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U&feature=related

jojo
12-11-2008, 12:21 PM
Yes, well played JJ! ;)

Can't not post this heart-trending video to accompany this thread.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U&feature=related


oh that really did bring tears to my eyes! how beautiful! :)

infin8_possibility
12-11-2008, 06:00 PM
Some intersting articles on this webpage, really made me think about my connections with my dogs and how sensitive they are to something seemingly insignificant as a frown,smile or certain look.

If often believed that I could communicate with my dogs through concentrating on images in my mind and conveying the expression towards them.

http://www.katberard.com/com_articles.htm

What about those times you’re intensely focused on something like reading a book, working at the computer, or talking on the phone. From (seemingly) nowhere the thought pops in, “I should take Rover for a walk.” Or “it’s time to feed Rover his dinner” (and you weren’t looking at the clock). Where (actually who) do you think the thought came from? You were focused on something completely unrelated. Yes, it came from your dog.

Cha-Cha the Horse.

Nancy DeSisto, a professional horse trainer, utilizes natural horsemanship techniques. Her two year old Paint filly, Cha-Cha, is a second level Parelli horse. However, even with natural training methods, she had been showing intensifying aggression toward people. If you approached Cha-Cha on her right side, she would pin her ears and tail. Two stable workers were hospitalized and several others quit as a result of her behavior. Nancy, who communicates with her own animals, had spoken with Cha-Cha about this a few weeks prior to calling me. She felt Cha-Cha was remorseful and confused, but the behavior continued. Nancy felt that an outside communication session was her last option.

My session with Cha-Cha revealed that she was very angry that her mother had left her (she had died when Cha-Cha was 14 months old). Cha-Cha was present at her death and still held grief about her loss. She had conflicting feelings about people. One minute she felt extremely close and affectionate, the next she felt angry and lashed out. She felt she led a dual life, one part as a horse and one part as a human (Nancy was present at her difficult birth and breathed life into her). I explained to Cha-Cha that it was okay for her to be Horse, with all that means and entails, to do what horses do, to revel in her free spirit, her wild essence. I pointed out that if she were to interact more with the other horses and embrace equine behavior and nature, she might feel more comfortable with herself and, as a result, with people.


Dylan the Dog.

I want to share a quick story with you. I talked with a very personable two year old Weimaraner named Dylan who lives in Kansas with his person, Laura. Laura had been showing Dylan in conformation and he was doing pretty well, but there was room for improvement. She asked me to convey to him what was needed, including that he let the judge look at his teeth without fidgeting. I asked him, “Do you have a problem with the judge touching you and looking at your teeth?” He replied, “Yes, a bit. I mean, they don’t live with me so I don’t think they should be touching me like that” [looking at his teeth]. I said, “I understand it’s kind of strange, to have an unknown person do that to you, but it’s harmless. They want to see how pretty and clean your teeth are and how they line up in your mouth.” He very truthfully (and with genuine curiosity) said, “Why? That’s none of their business, is it?”

Dylan had a very valid point, from his perspective! At the end of our conversation, I asked him, “Is there anything you would like to ask, or to add, before we close?” He replied, “Oh, sure! Tell her that I’ll try to do better at that show stuff. I know it means a lot to her, it’s just not easy for me to get into it because it’s not what I want to do. I think it’s kind of silly, really. If people want to see me, they can just come on over, we don’t have to go to those events.” He was quite open to entertaining at home! Dylan didn’t care about points and titles, he just wanted to be sociable. The session helped Laura understand Dylan better, and helped him understand why things happen the way they do in the show ring so he could cooperate instead of react.

Full Articles here (http://www.katberard.com/com_articles.htm)


I have a piece of writing (below) that I saved on my computer from a while ago. Apologies as I dont have a link to the source...

Everyone who has worked with animals has lamented that they can’t speak to us. We say, “if only they could tell me how they feel…” I think we all have the ability to communicate with the animals but it takes a little effort on our part. If you have ever experienced a flash of intuition, or de’ja vu or had the feeling that something you felt was someone else’s pain or sorrow, then you have the ability to hear what the animals have to say.

Non verbal communication is more of an art than a science and only practice will yield the results you seek. Instead of chattering at the animals in your life, try listening quietly. Mentally explain to them that you are a willing learner and that you want to understand them better. Unless they think you are totally un trainable, you may be surprised at their ability to speak to you in images you can understand.

Invite them to share your body and your mind for a few moments. Ask them to allow you to feel physically and emotionally what they feel. Try to put yourself in their place. How would the world look to you if you were less than two feet tall and were kept in a cage for your entire life? Consider what their every day experience would be. If you were them and were limited to the sights they see, the foods they are presented with, the options available to them for play, for discovery, for learning, for companionship…how would these limitations form your perspective?

If your imagination isn’t capable of really understanding what it is like to be a caged animal, whether it is a cramped enclosure or even a large paddock that you can fully explore in the course of a day, then perhaps for the sake of better understanding the animals you care for, you could take a day or two and live their life. Lock your self in a cage with only a ball or a box to play with and see how quickly boredom sets in. How long can you exist like this before you start to pace, before you start to call out for companionship, before you start to go mad with the injustice of being locked away for no crime.

Peace out. :cool::)

infin8_possibility
12-11-2008, 06:30 PM
Oh that really did bring tears to my eyes! how beautiful! :)

That clip is taken from the documentary "The Lion at Worlds End." It was available on Youtube but was taken down by the user. :( You can get it on DVD, I would recommend it, its a great watch...

Anyway this the story of his life. (below)

Christian was separated from his parents at an early age and put up for sale in a London department store. Christian's parents were zoo lions, the father came from the Rotterdam zoo and the mother from Jerusalem, and they lived at the Ilfracombe zoo. When they had cubs, the zoo sold them, and two cubs went to the department store.

Two men, Anthony Bourke and John Rendall, found him there and immediately fell in love with him and determined to buy him. They scraped together the money and brought the little lion home when he was only a few weeks old. They named him Christian.

Tony and John dedicated themselves to giving Christian the best life they could, and the bond that developed between them is a joy to behold. Christian was a remarkable lion, obviously very intelligent and loving, and gentle to everyone, both human and animal.

As he grew, Christian began to need bigger facilities than Tony and John could provide. Thanks to a chance meeting with Bill Travers (who had starred in the movie Born Free), they hit upon the idea of sending Christian to Africa to live as a wild lion.

Bill Travers contacted George Adamson to set up the project, and came up with the idea of making a documentary movie of it all, to fund the project. Christian is an absolute joy to watch in this movie. The love he shows, his intelligence, his joie de vie, are beautiful. All the color pictures here are from the movie.

George Adamson, of course, was himself a bridge between the worlds of humans and animals.

The first step when Christian arrived at George's compound, was to introduce him to Boy, a lion who had been in the movie Born Free and who George had already sent "back" to the wild, without losing his relationship with him.

Christian and Boy eventually became best friends, and within a year Christian was living as a wild lion.

Notice Christian's reaction at the beginning of this video. Sort of 'ohmigosh, what are you guys doing here!' When that year had passed, Tony and John came to Africa to see Christian. After a year of struggle, tragedies, and life with a pride of lions in the wild, the relationship Christian felt with Tony and John was as strong as it had always been. In fact, Christian's wonderful relationship with Tony and John caused the other lions in the pride to accept and be at peace with them as well.

A bridge existed, and it withstood the separation and the learning of a new way to live. Christian was another lion of two worlds. Ace and John saw Christian again, the last time was in 1974 when Christian was twice as large as he was in the movie, and had cubs of his own.

http://www.kimbawlion.com/christian.htm

infin8_possibility
12-11-2008, 07:00 PM
EARTHLINGS is a feature length documentary about humanity's absolute dependence on animals (for pets, food, clothing, entertainment, and scientific research) but also illustrates our complete disrespect for these so-called "non-human providers." The film is narrated by Academy Award nominee Joaquin Phoenix (GLADIATOR) and features music by the critically acclaimed platinum artist Moby. With an in-depth study into pet stores, puppy mills and animals shelters, as well as factory farms, the leather and fur trades, sports and entertainment industries, and finally the medical and scientific profession, EARTHLINGS uses hidden cameras and never before seen footage to chronicle the day-to-day practices of some of the largest industries in the world, all of which rely entirely on animals for profit. Powerful, informative and thought-provoking, EARTHLINGS is by far the most comprehensive documentary ever produced on the correlation between nature, animals, and human economic interests. There are many worthy animal rights films available, but this one transcends the setting. EARTHLINGS cries to be seen. Highly recommended!

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1717800235769991478&hl=en

jojo
13-11-2008, 08:49 PM
my god that was a harrowing watch! sick sick twisted people out there. highly sensative people beware.

its sick, discusting and very very cruel.

it made me cry on more than one occasion. im still thinking about the eyes of those poor beings 24hrs later!

how can humans do such things... sick people.. thing is, everything that is on that video we also do to ourselves! images like that shows me that we are ruled by the reptillian mind within !

the eyes of that poor fox that was skinned alive on the fur farm will stay with me to my grave. the tears form easily when i think of that...

all i did throughout that was to send energy healing to the souls of those poor tortured animals, in some small hope that in the moment of "now" they have recieved a boost of love.

i dont want to watch another vid like that again, as all it does is make me very sad and frustrated as i cant help them.

element
13-11-2008, 08:51 PM
all i did throughout that was to send energy healing to the souls of those poor tortured animals, in some small hope that in the moment of "now" they have recieved a boost of love.



You are a hero. :) ;)

jojo
13-11-2008, 09:02 PM
You are a hero. :) ;)

:) thanks, i didnt feel like a hero. how i wish i could go and rescue those animals....

infin8_possibility
13-11-2008, 09:36 PM
my god that was a harrowing watch! sick sick twisted people out there. highly sensative people beware.

its sick, discusting and very very cruel.

it made me cry on more than one occasion. im still thinking about the eyes of those poor beings 24hrs later!

how can humans do such things... sick people.. thing is, everything that is on that video we also do to ourselves! images like that shows me that we are ruled by the reptillian mind within !

the eyes of that poor fox that was skinned alive on the fur farm will stay with me to my grave. the tears form easily when i think of that...

all i did throughout that was to send energy healing to the souls of those poor tortured animals, in some small hope that in the moment of "now" they have recieved a boost of love.

i dont want to watch another vid like that again, as all it does is make me very sad and frustrated as i cant help them.

Yes, I know exacly how you feel. The pictures in that documentary are obscene to watch but I felt like I had to watch all of it to understand how many animals in the world are treated. But jojo, I'm sure you are glad you watched right? And I hope now you can understand why I made that milk thread even if it was slightly biased IYO...

It was very upsetting, but the main emotion that was running through my body was ANGER - I was seething with RAGE! Mostly because I am powerless to stop alot of what is happening to these tormented souls.

But... this video was the catalyst that made me decide to convert fully to vegertarianism a few months ago. So if more people watch this documentary and take up the same philosophy, then this can be a positive thing. :)

Less meat-eaters = less demand for meat = less animals slaughtered for food... Hopefully... :)

Peace out :):cool:

lordzoma
14-11-2008, 12:12 AM
Earthlings is an insult.

We are EarthERS not EarthLINGS.

LING is a term used to denote inferiority and youngness. It is a belittling term.

We are not Earthlings, although the aliens would love to call us that.

We are their spiritual superiors.

We are EarthERS.

infin8_possibility
14-11-2008, 12:18 AM
Earthlings is an insult.

We are EarthERS not EarthLINGS.

LING is a term used to denote inferiority and youngness. It is a belittling term.

We are not Earthlings, although the aliens would love to call us that.

We are their spiritual superiors.

We are EarthERS.

Just to clarify, you're referring to the term "Earthlings" not the documentary by the same name...

pinkfreud
14-11-2008, 05:28 AM
i dont want to watch another vid like that again, as all it does is make me very sad and frustrated as i cant help them.

i saw that chinese fur farm video on the PETA site (as well as several others regarding meat farms etc) as part of my project on animal rights when i was in college.. i couldnt bring myself to sleep for days, and the mental torture i went through was incomprehensible. i can imagine what it was like for the millions of animals who are tortured and mutilated mercilessly in the name of fashion, food, cosmetics, testing, et al.

it was during the making of my documentary that i converted to vegetarianism. im not usually a person who can stick by my vows and goals, but im very proud of that one decision i made. it has brought me inner peace and even though i was always an animal lover ever since i was a kid, these undercover investigations have made me even more compassionate and empathetic towards these loving beings. i feel for them more than i feel for myself and others around me, and i make it a point to give them my love whenever i can.

infin8. element. jojo (nice av btw). we need more people like u in this world :)

edit: hey infin8 :D where's that milk thread.. i did a search but couldnt find nada :confused:

infin8_possibility
14-11-2008, 05:48 AM
hey infin8 :D where's that milk thread.. i did a search but couldnt find nada :confused:

Hey pink, here's the thread:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39793&page=5

It created a alot of conflict between people, I for one got slightly confrontational, but hey I felt passionate about it so I hope people can understand if I "lost my head" for a short period of time...

lordzoma
14-11-2008, 09:09 AM
Just to clarify, you're referring to the term "Earthlings" not the documentary by the same name...

Yes, I am talking about the name. You don't see documentaries about the pre civil war south called NIGGERS do you? That would be inappropriate. The term Earthling is just as derogatory.

If you have a documentary with that title, be skeptical of whatever the content, because it probably carries with it an agenda.

anahata
19-11-2008, 01:27 PM
I saved a struggling insect from certain puddle death today :D It's wings clung to the safety stick like a childs tounge to a frozen pole, one leg quivering in the south westerly breeze while the others tangled hopelessly in a state of dispair. I left it to dry out hoping it might possibly make it's way home after the traumatic experience.

And why oh why did I have a bird shit all over me in a dream last night? It that still good luck?

jojo
19-11-2008, 01:28 PM
I saved a struggling insect from certain puddle death today :D It's wings clung to the safety stick like a childs tounge to a frozen pole, one leg quivering in the south westerly breeze while the others tangled hopelessly in a state of dispair. I left it to dry out hoping it might possibly make it's way home after the traumatic experience.

And why oh why did I have a bird shit all over me in a dream last night? It that still good luck?

where theres muck theres luck!

anahata
19-11-2008, 01:39 PM
where theres muck theres luck!

Is that so? Fantastic, I shall spend this evening dousing myself in donkey poop :p

jojo
19-11-2008, 01:42 PM
Is that so? Fantastic, I shall spend this evening dousing myself in donkey poop :p


well your in good company! i spend most days picking up horse, dog and cat poop!

infin8_possibility
19-11-2008, 01:45 PM
And romanticising male energy stones as well...:p

...I think you'd need a lot of lube to get one of them in... :eek:... I don't care i'm fucked off my face, I'll apologise l8r...

jojo
19-11-2008, 01:51 PM
And romanticising male energy stones as well...:p

...I think you'd need a lot of lube to get one of them in... :eek:... I don't care i'm fucked off my face, I'll apologise l8r...
:eek:

anahata
19-11-2008, 02:11 PM
well your in good company! i spend most days picking up horse, dog and cat poop!


Any particular reason for that or do you have these animals as pets? :rolleyes:

jojo
19-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Any particular reason for that or do you have these animals as pets? :rolleyes:


haha! yes they are pets... i dont do it for the love of all things shit.

anahata
19-11-2008, 05:58 PM
haha! yes they are pets... i dont do it for the love of all things shit.

No I can see that...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26878

pinkfreud
19-11-2008, 06:23 PM
just checked that thread out and...

http://fc41.deviantart.com/fs12/i/2006/273/3/2/_rofl__redesign_by_Chimpantalones.gif

The reason for my post was that i live in a terraced house and my front door opens onto the pavement. This morning as i opened my door i was greeted with the sight of a gargantuan doggie arse slurry that had obviously been deposited by the genetic manipulation of a Great Dane and an carnivorous elephant! As i pondered the repugnant evidence outside my doorstep, my fundi god bothering christian neighbours also came out and we both united and bonded in a way that we have never done before, under a banner of common disgust.

and

lol, my cat shit in my tumble dryer once. As i reached in to get the washing my hands squelched around it and it went all under my finger nails... not plesant.
ive got two horses, two cats and a dog so i feel my life is one round of animal excriment shoveling! dog and cat shit have to be the most foul of all beasts arse truffles! ...although, i once trod in human shit at the Reading festival...I had to throw my boots away as i couldnt stomach picking it out of the treads with a stick! urrgh

:D

we need more threads like these.

anahata
19-11-2008, 09:57 PM
Sorry Infin8!...

Have to continue the poo theme, can't r e s i s t !!!...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2bYzX4rBJ8

mountainwarrior
19-11-2008, 11:23 PM
animals in the physical exist in a state which to us resembles dreaming.

group mind, 100 monkey syndrome, elephant group mind warned elephants before tsunami, many fled and survived where humans died.

you can communicate with the group mind of any animal species, and also integrate animal frequency into your own to gain their powers.

infin8_possibility
20-11-2008, 03:41 AM
animals in the physical exist in a state which to us resembles dreaming.

group mind, 100 monkey syndrome, elephant group mind warned elephants before tsunami, many fled and survived where humans died.

you can communicate with the group mind of any animal species, and also integrate animal frequency into your own to gain their powers.

Interesting post, intergrating animal frequency into my own would be something I'd love to be able to accomplish. :)

lyrag
25-11-2008, 09:58 PM
There are no humans without souls.

How do you know that and also, does that mean that you think there are animals that have no souls??

lordzoma
25-11-2008, 11:44 PM
If it's alive it has what you would call a soul.

But higher self humans are on a completely different path from everything else.

infin8_possibility
02-12-2008, 06:18 PM
If it's alive it has what you would call a soul.

But higher self humans are on a completely different path from everything else.

Do you think there are higher self animal souls?

jojo
02-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Do you think there are higher self animal souls?

yes, i do :)

infin8_possibility
02-12-2008, 07:12 PM
yes, i do :)

Hey JJ! Divulge me as to why you believe/know this. Or am I being slightly dense in asking the question in the first place?

jojo
02-12-2008, 07:17 PM
Hey JJ! Divulge me as to why you believe/know this. Or am I being slightly dense in asking the question in the first place?


well, we are all part of one infinate energy... animals included, so it goes to figure that they also have a higher etheral self. :)

the fact that many animals are abused and trashed at the hands of their carers and yet still show them love and affection shows to me that they are working from a higher part of themselves... a part that many of the said humans wont reach because of their ego etc.

my work with horses and more recently dogs shows me this. some have communicated to me that they are trying to help us connect to love energy, but so many people will not listen to them .

infin8_possibility
02-12-2008, 07:24 PM
my work with horses and more recently dogs shows me this. some have communicated to me that they are trying to help us connect to love energy, but so many people will not listen to them .

Yeah, I've read in articles that dogs have commincated to humans they're helping us understand un-conditional love...

jojo
02-12-2008, 07:28 PM
Yeah, I've read in articles that dogs have commincated to humans they're helping us understand un-conditional love...

thats right. dogs especially have a capacity for HUGE amounts of unconditional love. anyone who has ever owned a dog will confirm this. although many do not realise that their cainine buddies are actually trying to communicate the real meaning (at a soul level) of this fact to them.

lordzoma
02-12-2008, 11:12 PM
The animal soul is collective.

THEIR HIGHER SELF IS LITERALLY THE EARTH CONSCIOUSNESS

All animals, including 70% of humanity made up of animal spirits, are all part of ONE single higher self, which is the Earth.

THAT is a higher self path of the nature path completely different from the higher self path I, or any of you, might have.

infin8_possibility
02-12-2008, 11:15 PM
The animal soul is collective.

THEIR HIGHER SELF IS LITERALLY THE EARTH CONSCIOUSNESS

All animals, including 70% of humanity made up of animal spirits, are all part of ONE single higher self, which is the Earth.

THAT is a higher self path of the nature path completely different from the higher self path I, or any of you, might have.

Your posts continue to blow the top of my head off lordzoma... :):cool:

cafetimes1991
02-12-2008, 11:44 PM
Brilliant post, thanks for making us aware of it: ★★★★★