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[Mo0n5tar]

I am posting this here in case of strict moderation on the board where i originally posted it:


Unfortunately a certain Moon & Star person here actually believes Bible-Believers are supposed to be perfect, without fault. This is simply ludicrous and proves without a doubt that they've been spoon-fed the Vatican lies.


I actually encounter on a daily basis hypocrisy, falsity, arrogance and self importance among Christians as I live among them, these people have no intentions of Humbling themselves before god, these people have no interest in brotherly love, they have no interest in unity only segregation and their own happy little seat on the Saviour bus.

I speak with many people who have had genuine spiritual experiences and have been touched by the spirit, but who have been ostracised and shunned by the Church going Christians in the community.

I have had deeper and more meaningful interactions with non-church going christians who study books on religion, than I do with Church going christians who seem more inclined to make me think like them and "teach me how to think and behave", I also have more meaningful conversations about spirituality and spiritual practice with Islamic people, you will not find more humble people in my experience, most Islamic peoples will always mention how Christianity and Islam pray to the same god, the omnipotent creative spirit in the Sky, who even the -SLAUGHTERED BY WHITE SETTLER- Native American Indians prayed and worshipped to!

If you wanna believe the bible then that is fine, but how many of you Bible believers speak or understand the Hebrew, Aramaic or Syretic languages which form the foundation of your BELIEFS, Hebrew being a brother of Arabic, Arabic being a much closer relative than English, which is like a nephew twice removed from Hebrew.

Whoa there.

God and Allah are NOT THE SAME. For starters, Allah had no son and is based off a pagan moon goddess.

God had a Son that He sent to save man from his sins.

You don't have to know Greek or Hebrew to understand the Bible. The King James translators and men before them (such as William Tyndale) translated it for us.

Moon and Stars is of the 'Zeitgeist' (debunked) cult who believes the Alan Wattage stuff about the 'arc' and such. Funny thing is Alan will not debate the issue. Moon/Stars said he/she decides for him/herself....can't think for her/himself.

Another point I want to make is he/she asked in the AV1611 for specific information related to Christianity, all warm and fuzzy seek the truth stuff. When said info was withdrawn MS regressed, went into a tirade with the usual bashing of Christians after accusing whites of 'racism'.

A double-minded person is unstable in all his/her ways. NEVER does a true Christian claim to be perfect. Yet this SM person foments a verbal race war against whites and a bigoted verbal inquisition against Bible-Believers. Methinks MS is highly suspect and a sneak who is what she accuses others of being what he/she is......I know for certain he/she is a leech.

"......I actually encounter on a daily basis hypocrisy, falsity, arrogance and self importance........"

look in the mirror!

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You don't have to know Greek or Hebrew to understand the Bible."

Yes you do, at least to understand it in the same way as your Jesus did, or you are lazy and wait for a middleman who does (or assumes to), to lay it all out in front of you, as with most things there is room for difference of opinion here.

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The King James translators and men before them (such as William Tyndale) translated it for us."

Yes they made many errors, and diluted the complexity of the Hebrew bringing in blanket terms such as GOD, The Lord etc.

AL and EL are much alike in the Syretic languages which came from the Phoenician:

Webster’s Dictionary gives the definition and etymology of Allah as follows. Allah is the Muslim name for "the God." Allah is derived from two words "al," which means "the" and "ilah," which is related to the feminine Hebrew word for God, "eloah."

According the Huston Smith’s book The World’s Religions (p. 222), it states: "Allah is formed by joining the definite article al meaning ‘the’ with Ilah (God). Literally, Allah means ‘The God.’ … When the masculine plural ending im is dropped from the Hebrew word for God, Elohim, the two words sound much alike." Eloah (Hebrew feminine) is similar to Ilah (God). Both Elohim and Allah are titles and not names.

Godfrey Higgins in his classical book Anacalypsis (V. 1; p. 64-65, 67) gives the etymology of Elohim, originally spelled Aleim. He states the following: "Perhaps there is no word in any language about which more has been written than the word Aleim; or, as modern Jews corruptly call it, Elohim. The root … al, the root of the word Aleim, as a verb or it its verbal form, means to mediate, to interpose for protection, to perserve; and a noun, a mediator, an interposer. In its feminine its has two forms …ale, and … alue. In its plural masculine it makes … alim, in is plural feminine … aleim.

Higgins points out in his book that many learned men believe that "Al" is derived from Arabic but some disagree with the derivation of Allah. "I beg the reader to observe, that Arabians, from whose language the word al properly comes, have the word for Sun, in feminine, and that for the moon, in the masculine gender; … The word Aleim … has been derived the Arabic word Allah, by many learned men; but Mr. Bellamy says this cannot be admitted; for Hebrew is not the derived, but the primitive language. … The Alah, articulo emphatico alalah (calassio) of Arabians, is evidently the … Al of the Chaldees or Jews…"

The Al is not Islamic/Arabic in origin, their book however is how it has always been, written and spoken in Arabic translated into English, many learned and Scholarly men have commented on the complexity and divine nature of the Quranic verses, and many offers have been made to lay down the religion if any man could write such a book, but no man ever has emulated it's complex prose and numerology!

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"This Quraan is challenge from Allaah to mankind and the jinn to produce anything like it, but they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce only ten soorahs like it, and they were unable to. Then He challenged them to produce something like the shortest soorah in the Quraan, and they could not do it, even though those who were being challenged were the most eloquent and well-spoken of mankind, and the Quraan was revealed in their language. Yet despite that they stated that they were completely incapable of doing that. This challenge has remained down throughout history, but not one person has been able to produce anything like it. If this were the word of a human being, some people would have been able to produce something like it or close to it."

[Mo0n5tar]

Moon and Stars is of the 'Zeitgeist' (debunked) cult who believes the Alan Wattage stuff about the 'arc' and such. Funny thing is Alan will not debate the issue. Moon/Stars said he/she decides for him/herself....can't think for her/himself.

Actually Montar05 to establish the 05, need a clue?
If four is the number of the world, then it represents man's weakness, and helplessness, and vanity, but plus one is 5.

And no I am not of any cult, just because I do not agree with you does not mean I am not very similar, generally I just study the Bible, Quran, and Vedic scriptures, I also indulge my interest in prehistory with the book of Mormon, I don't only read the KJV bible either, though find it more palatable than the DRV, and do not do it for any other reason than to know the truth as has been revealed COUNTLESS TIMES throughout history by countless VESSELS for the DIVINE SPIRIT!

SM person foments a verbal race war against whites and a bigoted verbal inquisition against Bible-Believers

Methinks MS is highly suspect and a sneak who is what she accuses others of being what he/she is......I know for certain he/she is a leech.
I have not fomented any wars you childish person, a bigoted verbal inquisition against bible believers ahahaha please grow up.

Why did you choose to respond to my reasonable response to your comment in such a way:

I have yet to see it realistically disproved, look at all the cultures the Caucas race invaded, looted and whitewashed in the last 6,000 years, look at how irrationally the Caucas race behaves nowadays, look at the animalistic/reptillian tendencies White Culture displays, look at the oppressive and false religions/denominations instituted by white cultures dividing the original unity.

I am not attacking anyone's beliefs here just stating facts, instead of choosing to dialogue with me if you thought I was wrong you choose to impede my research, hence my response:

Why are you taking things so personally?

I will not take your preposterous accusations personally, I forgive you and your delusions, and whole heartedly thank you for your words.
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Theresa you are such a righteous and humble christian thankyou.



I'm sorry but I am sure you were talking about how your friend mentioned that the Caucus tribes pre-christianity were a warmongering and vengeful people, therefore were segregated/exiled, I was agreeing with that point.


3rd interjection:
The whole "we all believe in the same god, he just exposed himself in many different ways to different people" is BULL-SHIT! Most religions are based off the mystery Babylonian religion which is the religion started by Satan through his puppets Nimrod and Semiramis. Most people into this new age belief all hold fundamental Luciferian beliefs that will make it easier for them to accept and worship the Anti-Christ. This new age belief is openly encouraged by the UN, Ted Turner, and nearly every religious institution. TRUE Christianity is the only religion under intense scrutiny because it is the enemy of the Mystery Babylonian cults. Many atheists, agnostics, deists, and people into this new age religion all usually say the same thing when it comes to religion. Usually something along the lines of "I think all religions are generally good but I hate Christianity because it is evil and thinks everyone who is different is going to hell". Not to mention they use their own puppets that pose as Christians to look stupid, out of touch, and insane.

There is only one enemy to the new world order and that is true Christianity. Most young people and people living in "progressive" cities all hate Christianity with a passion.

[Mo0n5tar]

Words of the profane and response in BOLD FROM A Bible Believer:
Why are you plagiarizing Craig's use of the term Profane?
Do you have any idea what your talking about, where is the part in the bible where Jesus called the people PROFANE, who was he talking to when he threw that stone into the lake?

I thought Craig used the term by this definition, as does Michael Tsarion excessively: not initiated into religious rites or mysteries, as persons but i assume you suggest I am irreverant to GOD, let me make this clear I have no interest in pleasing anyone other than my creator as I came from I will return to, and sorry but that means following no man, only my creator who endowed me with a conscience to think and assimilate and express new thoughts.

I do not have an interest in the works of man, only of GOD, God assembled the men who translated the bible as he assembled the men who were scribes of the Buddha, and likewise it was the Angels and God who made the production of the Quran possible, and likewise with every in which mankind ponders the place from where he came and where he will go when he leaves here, Divinity is not 2000 years old, Evil is not 2000 yrs old, there has always been good and there has always been evil for longer than we record as His-story, mankind has always been able to become Christ Consciousness/KRSNA Consciousness, all the Christians did was say God only made one special being endowed with his fathers gifts and he said only the white people and people who read English Bibles will be saved, this Christ Consciousness became personified as a spiritual and political weapon, simple as that!

And it is this weaponisation of spirituality and spiritual teachings which I have the most issues with, it is this that White Supremacist Rome has done throughout the last 1500 years, it is this Saul of Tarsus was renowned for, the Pharisees and High priests were renowned for.

I offered you the facts AT YOUR REQUEST.....HAHAHAHA! Your statement about the 'arc' was plaigiarization of Zeitgeist who plaigiarized that bit from someone else. HAHAHAHA!
You obviously felt your information was worthless or you wouldn't have taken it down, or was it because I posted in a agreement with a black woman who you were obviously very keen on chastising for her Un-holy views of Caucasians?

What are you going on about Zeitgeist Ark, I have not seen zietgeist two and watched the first one briefly some time last year, if I want to learn about astrology and mythology I will not expect to find the truth in an hour long presentation, much the same as I will not expect to find the truth about all history, science and math in one book.

Please divert your attention here to understand about the heritage of AFRICAN JEWRY, the Ethiopian Falashas, the Lemba and the Buba.
Yosef Ben-Jochannan (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uvbF_RaqCSoC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=the+ethiopian+arc+black+jews&source=web&ots=dvYYSfJPFS&sig=iRU4Le9fjKyNfUrUihwcmuu2xxA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result)

The Lemba, who practice circumcision, keep one day a week holy and avoid eating pork or pig-like animals, have long asserted they are of Jewish heritage.

The discovery of the common DNA sequences stemmed from research being done into the Jewish tradition that priests are the descendants of Aaron, the elder brother of Moses.

An analysis of the male Y chromosome found in 1997 that a particular pattern of DNA changes was much more common among cohanim priests than among lay Jews. A population geneticist at Oxford University in England, took that discovery one step further.

``In studying the priesthood, we happened into this tool for distinguishing Jewish from non-Jewish populations.'' Unlike in other chromosomes, the genetic material of the Y chromosome remains more or less unchanged from generation to generation, making it a useful tool in discovering heritage, the newspaper reported.

The geneticist found a particular set of genetic mutations that was strongly associated with the priestly caste, not so common among lay Jews and very rare in non-Jewish populations. He then tested DNA samples collected from the Lemba.

Research showed that the proportion of Lemba men carrying the genetic signature of the priests were similar to those found among the major Jewish populations, strongly supporting the Lemba tradition of Jewish ancestry.

And the DNA sequences were particularly common among Lemba men who belong to the Buba clan, the senior of their 12 groups. The Lemba, from South Africa and Zimbabwe, believe they were led out of Judea by a man named Buba.
source (http://www.haruth.com/JewsLemba.html)

[Mo0n5tar]

Ok but the fact still remains you believe that a man like me was crucified and died a horrible torturous death, but three days later had risen again and was walking around right as rain, that is a theory that many people will never accept as truth, fact!

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The Jesuits already infiltrated every major protestant church, they are under Vatican control."""


So what do the "true" Christians in this board do that is different to the majority of "infiltrated" Christian communities?

You all believe the same stories about a blonde haired, blue eyed, godman, who turned water to wine, could walk on water, was risen from the dead, and will once again physically rise from the dead to come and wipe out evil from the world, you all believe in the glory of Empire, supremacy of Whites and burning torment and punishment for all who disagree.

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The vast majority of people are brainwashed and surrendered their will, intentionally or unintentionally, to the education/media institutions which are controlled by groups like Freemasons, etc.""


Excuse me but King James was an entered apprentice to the Craft, he has historically been connected with Homosexuality, Occultism and of course being a controlled "STUART" opposame, so the vast majority of Christians: "are brainwashed and surrendered their will, intentionally or unintentionally, to the education/media institutions which are controlled by groups like Freemasons".