Home Secretary Jacqui Smith Unvails ID Scheme

[lewi]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then and now this at a time when the goverment keeps losing all our private data.

The Labour party has lost its way for good now anyone know anything about this Lady is she the next Thatcher or what she is planing on doing ??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45050000/jpg/_45050917_pasmith226a.jpg

[steevo]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then and now this at a time when the goverment keeps losing all our private data.

The Labour party has lost its way for good now anyone know anything about this Lady or what her plans are ??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45050000/jpg/_45050917_pasmith226a.jpg

They are just introducing it step by step so that we dont all protest ON MASS. The £30 is just a gimmick, and they will probably give the card away for free in the end, and then the sheeple will be pacified.

[jhado]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then and now this at a time when the goverment keeps losing all our private data.

The Labour party has lost its way for good now anyone know anything about this Lady is she the next Thatcher or what she is planing on doing ??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45050000/jpg/_45050917_pasmith226a.jpg

Jacqui Smith is really punchable, I'm convinced that Common Purpose's
tactics involve us being irritated to death.

[illuminatiman]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then and now this at a time when the goverment keeps losing all our private data.

The Labour party has lost its way for good now anyone know anything about this Lady is she the next Thatcher or what she is planing on doing ??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45050000/jpg/_45050917_pasmith226a.jpg


They dont give in do they? still most of the sheeple will think its a great idea!!! Me count me out! :)

[illuminatiman]

Jacqui Smith is really punchable, I'm convinced that Common Purpose's
tactics involve us being irritated to death.

This stinks of common purpose!

[goldenratio]

first they came for the criminals
then they came for the immigrants
then they came for the airport workers
then they came for...............

snidey bstards are determined to sneak this in one way or another, pick us off in small manageable groups rather than the mass protests of the poll tax days

If they impact peoples pockets by stopping people working without an ID card and they make us scared enough of "terrorists" and "illegal immigrants" they'll get it too!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:mad::mad: :mad::mad:

[hokhmah]

A plan for private firms, shops and the Royal Mail to bid for contracts to fingerprint millions of people for the new identity cards is being unveiled. The UK government is aiming to contract out the task of gathering biometric data for new passports and ID to the private sector, according to reports.

Applicants will have all ten FINGERRINTS and their FACES SCANNED. The data will then be passed to the Identity and Passport Service to be stored on the new, computerised National Identity Register. A Home Office spokeswoman confirmed that the UK government wanted to create a network of places where people could easily go to complete the application procedures for the biometric documents.

The spokeswoman said: "We are going to have open discussions with organisations. The Passport Service needs to develop a network of convenient outlets in the UK that customers can visit."

The Home Secretary JACQUI SMITH is also expected to disclose that the cost of the scheme - previously estimated at £4.5 BILLION - is now put at closer to £5 BILLION.

Phil Booth of the NO2ID campaign warned that private companies were unlikely to be interested in bidding for contracts which would be scrapped if Labour loses the next general election. He said: "The Government is selling a pig in a poke. What company is going embarrass itself to the tune of millions for a contract that that everyone outside the Home Office itself knows will be cancelled by a new administration?" (ITN News 06/11/2008)

[helloperator]

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then

It's a schoolboy error. Don't worry about it

[daniel1987]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

If the government wants to introduce this scheme, they should pay for the bloody cards! Why should airport workers give up £30 of their hard-earned cash?!

[daniel1987]

If the government wants to introduce this scheme, they should pay for the bloody cards! Why should airport workers give up £30 of their hard-earned cash?!

Just like to add that I'm totally against the scheme. I'm just saying that if the workers have no choice, they shouldn't have to pay for the cards; the government should. This scheme is an example of the totalitarian tiptoe that David talks about. Start off with a small groups of people, and then gradually progress to the masses.

[lewi]

The funny thing is that is not her picture on the ID Card she is holding so she has not got one herself yet thats why i posted the picture up of her holding on to it but no one noticed it seems.

The goverment is going to try to push this on everyone soon iam just glad that even the students are not being suckerd in too.

When will they see that every excuse they offer for these Cards have been total BS so far and they know it.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1141640/uk_home_secretary_on_future_of_identity_cards/

False ID excuse me sir can i see your card i dont know who you are ..... Ahhh yes you do have a card you are one of us ??

I have never asked anyone who they are on the street but now i can because they can prove they are who they say they are and i can walk away knowing that hey he is one of us nothing to worrie about. Ummm what a load of total BS !!


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M_cebLq-QSA

Card Helps Fight terror and you should to because without one you will never be able to fly again or enter a goverment owned building without an ID Card also they can watch where you go now that in itself is the only reason to reject these evil tracking devices.

[goldenratio]

exactly
what kind of crime will these cards actually prevent?

why would the fact that a criminal has a card in their pocket prevent them from commiting crime?

A rozzer once told me "if they want to get in enough you wont stop them whatever security precautions you use"

this was after I was burgled but it applies on a national scale

cards wont control immigration
cards wont prevent crime
all cards do is control the law abiding majority

They only way they will take my prints will be from my cold dead hand :mad::mad::mad:
LOL
:D(sorry, corny I know but this really winds me up)

[anthony65]

"I believe there is a demand, now, for cards - and as I go round the country I regularly have people coming up to me and saying they don't want to wait that long"

Jacqui Smith
Home Secretary

Does anybody believe her? :rolleyes:

[goldenratio]

"I believe there is a demand, now, for cards - and as I go round the country I regularly have people coming up to me and saying they don't want to wait that long"

Jacqui Smith
Home Secretary

Does anybody believe her? :rolleyes:

Yeah I believe she hears it all the time as she goes round the country for meetings with her Greedy,coniving, corrupt, Bilderberg, NWO, Zionist, Elitist bosses.

what a witch!

[goldenratio]

I think this is the biggest chance we've got of waking up the masses to their agenda

line in the sand so to speak

everyone I speak to is against them even sceptical people who will laugh in your face if you mention the NWO dont want to be tagged and tracked

[skyline]

Dear Jackie

May you feast upon my bottom with a fine silver spoon because I do not want one

I hope you have a nice Christmas and get that special gift you always wanted...a soul

All my love

Skyline

[the itinerant shrubber]

There's always talk of people getting together on this forum but I would like to eventually form a network of people who refuse the ID card when it becomes either law or virtually impossible to live without. I dont think there will be many of us default criminals/terrorists as I believe the majority of people (including the people on this forum) will eventually give in to it but the few of us that refuse would be better off working together and helping each other.
We all need to begin separating ourselves from the system by becoming totally self sufficient literally and financially as we'll only be able to deal in cash.
Become your local odd-job man;someone who's services are needed and payed for in cash or trade.

[pduffy4]

If the government wants to introduce this scheme, they should pay for the bloody cards! Why should airport workers give up £30 of their hard-earned cash?!

The Government does not have any money of it's own. They only have tax payers money. Everyone will pay for it one way or another.

[pduffy4]

There's always talk of people getting together on this forum but I would like to eventually form a network of people who refuse the ID card when it becomes either law or virtually impossible to live without. I dont think there will be many of us default criminals/terrorists as I believe the majority of people (including the people on this forum) will eventually give in to it but the few of us that refuse would be better off working together and helping each other.
We all need to begin separating ourselves from the system by becoming totally self sufficient literally and financially as we'll only be able to deal in cash.
Become your local odd-job man;someone who's services are needed and payed for in cash or trade.

Have you look at this site? http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/index.php

It is for people to network with ideas like you have expressed.

There will come a day when you will not be able to get into a shop or bank etc without the id card. That is how they will foist it on people. I believe that is why they have created these huge supermarkets and shoping mals. Small business will be destroyed buy EU regulations which wil make it impossible for small business to exist.

Anyone who resists wil be called a terrorist and will likely disapear.

[pinkgrapefruit]

Jacqui Smith is really punchable, I'm convinced that Common Purpose's
tactics involve us being irritated to death.

Thank's Jhado... someone on my wavelength.

Whenever I see Jacqui Smith I think of Common Purpose and I also think how much she could do with a good punch!:D

[lewi]

Everyone should have the ID Card they say Billions of pounds wasted on an ID Scheme...:mad:....What about the homeless people who beg on the streets who where born in this country do they need an ID Card.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ3JIjc_Vz0&feature=related

[mari]

Where the hell does she get the idea that 'the public can't wait for ID cards' & that we are 'for 'it? Blatant bloody lies.
Or is she trying to get us to think that its becoming increasingly popular, wear us down so, we will jump on the bandwagon?
Do they not know who they're dealing with here?

[illuminatiman]

Where the hell does she get the idea that 'the public can't wait for ID cards' & that we are 'for 'it? Blatant bloody lies.
Or is she trying to get us to think that its becoming increasingly popular, wear us down so, we will jump on the bandwagon?
Do they not know who they're dealing with here?

Thats about the size of it Bubba!!! the tragic thing is the sheeple will demand it as predicted! :rolleyes:

[howie]

This is what the anti-terrorist warned about in his latest video

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083447/Royal-Mail-shops-private-firms-bid-right-fingerprint-new-ID-cards.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1083645/Fingerprinting-charge-double-cost-ID-card-60-plans-launch-scheme-scaled-down.html

The cost of buying an ID card will leap from £30 to £60 or more as applicants will have to pay hefty fees to private firms for the privilege of having their fingerprints and facial image scanned.

The astonishing leap in the price - which will also hit anyone applying for a passport - was revealed after Home Secretary Jacqui Smith claimed that contracting out the gathering of biometric data to the private sector would cut the costs of the controversial ID card scheme by a billion pounds.

[elysiumfire]

Hi There,

Look! Instead of whinging and whining about it, do something! Fire the emails and telephone calls off to your local MP. Moaning about all the shit on a forum will achieve squat!

This is one issue - the surveillance issue - that we have all just got to get proactive and loud about. I myself have just fired off two emails, one to the Labour party, and one to my local MP...both will learn of my displeasure.

To the Labour Party:Today's pathetic news regarding Jacqui Smith's claim that there is a public demand for the ID card is completely unacceptable spin!
Do you people not get it? Are you so isolated from the pulse of the nation, so indifferent to the wishes of the people that you just go ahead pleasing yourselves, thinking you can demand compliance from 65 million people with impunity?
I can't wait for the next election! Change came to America, and you are guaranteed, change is coming to Britain. All the Labour MPs had better update their CV's because come the next election, you will not have a job. You will not have a seat. Enough said!

To my local MP:Dear ****,

The issue has arisen again, to a point where I find myself communicating with you once again.

Today, Jacqui Smith claims that there is a public demand for ID cards. Well, I'm sorry, but this is England, it is not the deep south of America, nor do I live in a banana tree. What planet does she think she's on? Just how dense does she think the British are?

Cameron has stated that when he gets into power he is going to scrap this idiotic scheme, and that gets my vote. Under no circumstance am I going to allow myself subjected to biometric surveillance, and judging from the reaction around the country, neither are millions of others. Labour are making a vast and massive error if they think they are going to introduce schemes like this.

I've decide enough is enough. I'm going to get proactive on this issue, I will do the research and argue against any form of surveillance, and I will campaign against it. No one in this country wants to be surveilled by the state! It is not required, regardless of all the governmental fear-mongering, and it is a complete and utter waste of time! This government cannot keep so much as a postcode private, without leaving it on the back seat of a taxi! Trust Labour with my personal and private details...NEVER!

You will have noticed that America has recently thrown out the current incumbent imbeciles that ran that country into the ground with seeming impunity...they still have to answer to the people. The people wanted change, demanded it, and they voted for it, and they got it. Be under no illusion, change is coming to Britain! The closer we get to the election, the louder the growls will become.

This is nothing to do with terrorism, but entirely to do with surveillance of the British public; and this government thinks it's going to make us pay for it as well! Labour will not be allowed 1% of Orwell's nightmare, no party will. This issue, as is apparent, makes me justifiably angry, and I am keen to know where you stand on this issue, are you for or against the ID scheme? I don't want to know what reasons you feel justify the introduction of this abhorrent scheme, I just want to know your stance?

Get off your bloody arses and get proactive!

Best wishes

[lewi]

Hi There,

Look! Instead of whinging and whining about it, do something! Fire the emails and telephone calls off to your local MP. Moaning about all the shit on a forum will achieve squat!

This is one issue - the surveillance issue - that we have all just got to get proactive and loud about. I myself have just fired off two emails, one to the Labour party, and one to my local MP...both will learn of my displeasure.

To the Labour Party:

To my local MP:

Get off your bloody arses and get proactive!

Best wishes

Moaning about all the shit on a forum will achieve squat!

This is the perfect place to moan and express yourself because if you tryed it your way they simply wouldnt listen atleast here you can make people see the truth and get a movement going.

Dont kid yourself into thinking these forums dont effect peoples lives because you will be wrong everytime.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/7711698.stm

:eek:

[goldenratio]

Hi There,

Look! Instead of whinging and whining about it, do something! Fire the emails and telephone calls off to your local MP. Moaning about all the shit on a forum will achieve squat!

This is one issue - the surveillance issue - that we have all just got to get proactive and loud about. I myself have just fired off two emails, one to the Labour party, and one to my local MP...both will learn of my displeasure.

To the Labour Party:

To my local MP:

Get off your bloody arses and get proactive!

Best wishes

Like it!

Your right people do need to take actual action but discussing it and knowing others feel the same will hopefully spur people on to do so.

:cool:

[drhemp]

Airport unions have been resisting the scheme, saying workers would have to pay £30 for a card to do their jobs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I dont know much about Jacqui Smith but it seems she may be the next Margaret Thatcher in waiting. When i first saw her i thought she seems genuine enough how wrong was i back then and now this at a time when the goverment keeps losing all our private data.

The Labour party has lost its way for good now anyone know anything about this Lady is she the next Thatcher or what she is planing on doing ??

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45050000/jpg/_45050917_pasmith226a.jpg

She is a nothing more than a puppet and was put in that job because she will do exactly as she is told by the PTB. She does not have the intelligence to do this job and think for herself, so she is quite happy to be told what to do, as she gets to feel important and get driven around in a nice ministerial limousine.

[poohkits]

Jacqui Smith says public demand means people will be able to pre-register for an ID card within the next few months.

The cards will be available for all from 2012 but she said: "I regularly have people coming up to me and saying they don't want to wait that long."

The home secretary made the claim as she unveiled revised ID scheme plans.

Opposition parties say they would scrap the ID card scheme. The Tories call it a "complete waste of money". The Lib Dems call it a "laminated poll tax".

They accused Ms Smith of backtracking on plans to issue ID cards in 2009 for all airside workers, by announcing they would pilot them at just two airports.

The first biometric cards are being issued to students from outside the EU and marriage visa holders this month, and it had been planned to make them compulsory for all 200,000 airside workers from 2009.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

[skyline]

The cards will be available for all from 2012 but she said:

What she was really saying is after 2012, project bluebeam, and the the four years of crap the elite have planned everyone who is left will have to have one

Or so they think:cool:

[captaincaper]

Enjoy :):):):):)

http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/home-secretarys-biometric-data.html

[knightofthegrail]

ID cards are utterly un-necessary for their plans; a biometric database (with all details stored centrally) can be accessed by thumbprint scan with far less cost or PR.

£5 says it will be their approach of choice.

[goldenratio]

Enjoy :):):):):)

http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/home-secretarys-biometric-data.html

fantastic! top marks 10 out of 10 whoever did this
I want a copy of her print if they become available, put it on a thimble;)

LMFAO
:D:cool::D

[tusme]

They are just introducing it step by step so that we dont all protest ON MASS. The £30 is just a gimmick, and they will probably give the card away for free in the end, and then the sheeple will be pacified.
Bingo!! :eek:

Hi Steevo,

You're absolutely, ON THE BUTTON with this one mate...!!

And they probably lined-up a host of investors to finance the project too...!?

If Truth be told, all such business is secured well in advance of the project actually "going-live", so to speak...!

Cheers!

[steevo]

Jacqui Smith looks like she is devoid of all emotion, like she has sold her soul. The eyes say it all. I genuinely think that she has lost her marbles and will be locked up in an insane asylum in a year or two.

[tusme]

Jacqui Smith looks like she is devoid of all emotion, like she has sold her soul. The eyes say it all. I genuinely think that she has lost her marbles and will be locked up in an insane asylum in a year or two.
Hi Steevo,

Not sure what she looks like now, but I know that "look" you're talking about :eek: ...happens, as you say, when a person sells their and other people's energy to the "dark one"...!

Cheers

[dogsmilk]

Jacqui Smith looks like she is devoid of all emotion, like she has sold her soul. The eyes say it all. I genuinely think that she has lost her marbles and will be locked up in an insane asylum in a year or two.

I think that's a really awful prospect:
Imagine if you'd been sectioned, couldn't leave, were in acute mental distress and then found she'd been put in the room next door and kept knocking on and trying to give you an ID card she'd scrawled on a piece of toilet paper in biro. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think it would be better if she were put in a capsule and shot into space. A warning in pictures (like those ones on Voyager) could be inscribed on the outside to prevent unwitting extraterrestrials from releasing her.

[steevo]

I think that's a really awful prospect:
Imagine if you'd been sectioned, couldn't leave, were in acute mental distress and then found she'd been put in the room next door and kept knocking on and trying to give you an ID card she'd scrawled on a piece of toilet paper in biro. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think it would be better if she were put in a capsule and shot into space. A warning in pictures (like those ones on Voyager) could be inscribed on the outside to prevent unwitting extraterrestrials from releasing her.

lmao thanks Dogsmilk that made me laugh :D

[jos08]

I think that's a really awful prospect:
Imagine if you'd been sectioned, couldn't leave, were in acute mental distress and then found she'd been put in the room next door and kept knocking on and trying to give you an ID card she'd scrawled on a piece of toilet paper in biro. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think it would be better if she were put in a capsule and shot into space. A warning in pictures (like those ones on Voyager) could be inscribed on the outside to prevent unwitting extraterrestrials from releasing her.
LOL thats funny
///
I think they might introduce ID cards to everyone sooner than 2012 ... possibly within the next 2 years or so.

[whatistruth]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7714998.stm




Don't you love it how they always make it about the cost, and say THATS why people are against the ID cards?

[lewi]

The home secretary's fingerprints are missing.

Possibly. A supporter of the NO2ID campaign has "liberated" a water glass thought to have Jacqui Smith's prints on them from an event where she was speaking. The group has been trying to get hold of the home secretary's fingerprints for a while - this is the third attempt apparently - and have offered £1,000 reward, to be paid to the finder's favourite charity. But how will they know they have the genuine article? "We are extremely optimistic that we will get at least one of Jacqui Smith's dabs on the record," says NO2ID's Phil Booth. He also pledged to return the glass to The Social Market Foundation from whence it came. But what do NO2ID intend to do with the home secretary's prints? "Watch this space," says Mr Booth mysteriously. The Home Office declined to comment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7714968.stm

Promotional stunt or the real deal ?? ;)