The Coincidence Rolls On

[banoyes]

The coincidence rolls on
In the USA there are about 1.6 million Freemasons
that 0.33353333333333335% of the population

Gerald Ford- Freemason his VP Nelson Rockefeller Freemason

Jimmy Carter was a member of the CFR, but was not a Freemason
-one of the few one term Presidents
His VP Walter Mondale was a Freemason

Reagan- Freemason 33 degree his VP Bush -Skull and Bones

Bush- Skull and Bones his VP Dan Quayle (CFR, Bilderberg Group)

Clinton-Demolay (Freemason) his Vice President Al Gore 33degree Freemason

Bush-Skull and Bones Cheney -Skull and Bones

Thats a pretty fair coincidence huh
You can think it means nothing
or you can look at history and see
It means everything
Oh...
Obama -Prince Hall Freemason
http://www.rense.com/general80/obmw.htm

Joe Biden- CFR - During the interview conducted by the Jewish ‘Shalom TV’
Biden said, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”
Sen. Joe Biden on Shalom TV - YouTube

[barney_rubble]

Let me first get the facts straight, although I think this will still make YOUR point.


In the USA there are about 1.6 million Freemasons
that 0.33353333333333335% of the population
[/QUOTE]
Wrong or misleading - actually 0.53% of the US population are Masons (source: http://bessel.org/masstats.htm)


Gerald Ford- Freemason his VP Nelson Rockefeller Freemason

Ford Yes
Rockefeller NO


Jimmy Carter was a member of the CFR, but was not a Freemason
-one of the few one term Presidents
His VP Walter Mondale was a Freemason

You are correct Carter was not a freemason
Mondale was NOT a Freemason



Reagan- Freemason 33 degree his VP Bush -Skull and Bones

Bush- Skull and Bones his VP Dan Quayle (CFR, Bilderberg Group)

Regan was NOT a Fremason.
Skull and bone is a college fraternity that is all.



Clinton-Demolay (Freemason) his Vice President Al Gore 33degree Freemason

Clinton was NOT a freemason
Gore was NOT a freemason


Bush-Skull and Bones Cheney -Skull and Bones

Do not know but again just a college fraternity


Thats a pretty fair coincidence huh
You can think it means nothing
or you can look at history and see
It means everything
Oh...
Obama -Prince Hall Freemason
http://www.rense.com/general80/obmw.htm

Joe Biden- CFR - During the interview conducted by the Jewish ‘Shalom TV’
Biden said, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”


Nope Obama is NOT a Prince Hall Mason - I have seen one page were an individual Prince Hall mason supports Obama but that does not make Obama a Mason nor does it mean all of Price Hall supports him either.


Now the REAL facts.

15 (or 14) of the 44 US Presidents have been Freemasons

President who were also Masons
George Washington, 1st President
James Monroe, 5th President
Andrew Jackson, 7th President
James Knox Polk, 11th President,
James Buchanan, 15th President
Andrew Johnson, 17th President
James Abram Garfield, 20th President
William McKinley, 25th President
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President
William Howard Taft, 27th President
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. Did not advance past Entered Aprentice
(source: http://www.calodges.org/no406/FAMASONS.HTM)

14 of the 44 U.S. Vice Presidents have been Freemasons
(I did not double count Vice Presidents that were also Presidents)

Vice President who were also Masons
George Clinton
Elbridge Gerry
Daniel D. Tompkins
Richard M. Johnson
George M. Dallas
William R. King
John C. Breckenridge
Schuyler Colfax
Adlai E. Stevenson
Garret A. Hobart
Charles W. Fairbanks
Thomas R. Marshall
Hubert H. Humphrey
Henry A. Wallace
(source: http://www.themasonictrowel.com/Articles/General/about_individual_files/us_vice_presidents_masonic_connection.htm)

Therefore 31% of the Presidents & Vice Presidents have been Freemasons.

0.53% of the US population are Masons
(source: http://bessel.org/masstats.htm)


That is still a high ratio though. 31% versus 0.53%
Run with that.

[mike martin]

Interesting maths.

population of the US stands at roughly 305,000,000

.33 percent of that equals 1,006,500

Then you say that several non-Masons were Masons!

Pretty conclusive stuff. I think you're onto a winner:D

Mike

[eastbeast]

Nice
bit of in
fo
there Barney,
........,,,,,,,;;;;111

Butyou
're
for
get
ting

The rest are
guilty by ass
osciation.


:D

Beware with whom you shake hands, lest they should become one of us....(Play music from 'Twilight Zone' and fade to blank screen)

[eastbeast]

Interesting maths.

population of the US stands at roughly 305,000,000

.33 percent of that equals 1,006,500

Then you say that several non-Masons were Masons!

Pretty conclusive stuff. I think you're onto a winner:D

Mike


I agree, 0.33% sounds very dangerous to me........obviously we are well on the way to our evil World domination plan. Luckily we have Doctor Evil on our side too, although Minime is on warning for 'upsetting' the Goat.

On a slightly more serious note Mike, do you know how many Masons there are under the Jurisdiction of UGLE?

[banoyes]

Let me first get the facts straight, although I think this will still make YOUR point.




Wrong or misleading - actually 0.53% of the US population are Masons (source: http://bessel.org/masstats.htm)
I used slightly different numbers
(more up to date)
but
.33 or . 53..either will do





Ford Yes
Rockefeller NO


You are correct Carter was not a freemason
Mondale was NOT a Freemason


Regan was NOT a Fremason.
Skull and bone is a college fraternity that is all.


Clinton was NOT a freemason
Gore was NOT a freemason


Do not know but again just a college fraternity



Nope Obama is NOT a Prince Hall Mason - I have seen one page were an individual Prince Hall mason supports Obama but that does not make Obama a Mason nor does it mean all of Price Hall supports him either.


Now the REAL facts.

15 (or 14) of the 44 US Presidents have been Freemasons

President who were also Masons
George Washington, 1st President
James Monroe, 5th President
Andrew Jackson, 7th President
James Knox Polk, 11th President,
James Buchanan, 15th President
Andrew Johnson, 17th President
James Abram Garfield, 20th President
William McKinley, 25th President
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President
William Howard Taft, 27th President
Warren Gamaliel Harding, 29th President
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman, 33rd President
Gerald R. Ford, Jr. 38th President
Lyndon Baines Johnson 1908-1973. Did not advance past Entered Aprentice
(source: http://www.calodges.org/no406/FAMASONS.HTM)

14 of the 44 U.S. Vice Presidents have been Freemasons
(I did not double count Vice Presidents that were also Presidents)

Vice President who were also Masons
George Clinton
Elbridge Gerry
Daniel D. Tompkins
Richard M. Johnson
George M. Dallas
William R. King
John C. Breckenridge
Schuyler Colfax
Adlai E. Stevenson
Garret A. Hobart
Charles W. Fairbanks
Thomas R. Marshall
Hubert H. Humphrey
Henry A. Wallace
(source: http://www.themasonictrowel.com/Articles/General/about_individual_files/us_vice_presidents_masonic_connection.htm)

Therefore 31% of the Presidents & Vice Presidents have been Freemasons.

0.53% of the US population are Masons
(source: http://bessel.org/masstats.htm)


That is still a high ratio though. 31% versus 0.53%
Run with that.
Sure
Any can look up and verify the names
but
even using your Mason contrived information
It is evident
Freemasonry has far more officals in ALL areas of government
then any law of proberbility would allow
so much for coincidence
and if it ain't a coincidence
It's a conspiracy
Funny ain't it
No politics are discussed in lodges
Yet ...There they are and this is just in the USA

[mynameis]

I think you need to add a zero to the figure such as .033 or .055.

If considering thousandths it should be .003 or .005.

.5 is half of the population
.3 is a third " " ".

[mike martin]

On a slightly more serious note Mike, do you know how many Masons there are under the Jurisdiction of UGLE?

It changes everyday what with deaths and new members but

UGLE =approx 280,000
GLoS = approx 60,000
GLoI = approx 40,000

Mike

[mike martin]

I think you need to add a zero to the figure such as .033 or .055.

If considering thousandths it should be .003 or .005.

.5 is half of the population
.3 is a third " " ".


He is right. he is talking about .33 as in one third of one percent

Mike

[banoyes]

I think you need to add a zero to the figure such as .033 or .055.

If considering thousandths it should be .003 or .005.

.5 is half of the population
.3 is a third " " ".

%=percentage
100%
1%
.5%
.3%
1500000 is .5% of 298,755,264

[banoyes]

It changes everyday what with deaths and new members but

UGLE =approx 280,000
GLoS = approx 60,000
GLoI = approx 40,000

Mike
This is known as 'side tracking"
nothing to do with thread
Freemasons do this a lot
a practiced skill .. cool huh

[barney_rubble]

With either my numbers or banoyes' numbers for the US there is still a huge flaw in the logic that no-one has pointed out.

0.53 % of the US polputation are Freemasons (2005 figures)

AND

31% of all of the Presidents & Vice Presidents have been Freemasons.

Can anyone find the flaw?

[mynameis]

1/100 = .01 x 100 = 1%

1/3 = .33 x 100 = 33%

.33 x .01 = .0033

A third of 1 percent is .0033.

.003 x 305,000,000(?) =1,006,500.

As given by Mike.

What percentage is 1,006,500 in the US Population as a whole?

At around 1% population in the US are Masons, if accounting the total whole us population.

For the number of Presidents that have been masons it is no kowinkydink they are all masons, if you take the figures as laid out. No offense. I am just statin the facts as they are mathematical certainties something else is at work here.

[banoyes]

With either my numbers or banoyes' numbers for the US there is still a huge flaw in the logic that no-one has pointed out.

0.53 % of the US polputation are Freemasons (2005 figures)

AND

31% of all of the Presidents & Vice Presidents have been Freemasons.

Can anyone find the flaw?
Yah
the numbers should reflect the adult eligible
and proberly only males
it will only change the numbers
not
the violation of the proberbility law

[barney_rubble]

Yah
the numbers should reflect the adult eligible
and proberly only males
it will only change the numbers
not
the violation of the proberbility law

Ohhh! good point I missed that one - that would make the percentage of us population that are mason larger

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What I was thinking about was that to calculate the percentage of the US population that are Freemason I used numbers from 2005

No of Mason in 2005 : 1,569,812
US population in 2005 296,410,404
1,569,812 : 296,410,404 = 0.53% (1/2 of a percent)


But when we count the number of US Presidents/Vice Presidents that were Masons we are including the entire US history.

To compare Apples to Apples we should divide all the US citizens that have been Masons by the the number of people that have ever been a US citizen.

I have no source for those numbers "US masons of all time" and "US citizens of all time"

Then there is the eligibility corrections to make
------------------------------------------------------------
We could go the other way and only use 2005 data only.
President in 2005 George W. Bush Vice President 2005 Dick Chenney --> that is 2 but they were not masons so 0(zero)

Let's adjust US population for Freemasonry requirements (Regular Freemasonry -sorry)
lets assume 50% of the US are men --> 148,205,202
lets assume 75% of the US men are over 21 --> 111,153,901

Let's adjust population for Presidential requirements
lets assume 56% are of the US are over 35 --> 165,989,826
lets assume 75% are US born--> 124,492,369.

Ratio of Pres. & VP. to the US population(adjusted)
0 : 124,492,369 or 0.00%

Ratio of Masons to eligible US population
1,569,812 : 111,153,901 or 1.41%

If one uses 2005 data only then 0 % of those in charge are Masons and
1.41% of the eligible population are Freemasons.

With those numbers it does not look like there is more mason in power then there is in the general public.
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My point is Statistics can be used to prove anything you want.

[banoyes]

My point is Statistics can be used to prove anything you want.
My point is
and has been proved
There are more Masons in high political office
then the law of proberbility allows for
This is not juist another Freemason coincidence
It is a plot,a plan.an Agenda a conspiracy

[mike martin]

My point is
and has been proved
There are more Masons in high political office
then the law of proberbility allows for
This is not juist another Freemason coincidence
It is a plot,a plan.an Agenda a conspiracy

actually all you have proven is that you posted some numbers!

To prove that there are "There are more Masons in high political office then the law of proberbility (sic) allows for" you would actually need to give names of some that are Masons, rather than just saying people are Masons.

Mike

[banoyes]

actually all you have proven is that you posted some numbers!

To prove that there are "There are more Masons in high political office then the law of proberbility (sic) allows for" you would actually need to give names of some that are Masons, rather than just saying people are Masons.

Mike
First post -you really should read before you post

[mike martin]

First post -you really should read before you post
Third post - I did!

So right back at you:D

Now why don't you try a post that contains the names of people in high places at the same time (rather than spread across history) who are actually Masons.

Mike

[slartibartfast]

My point is
and has been proved
There are more Masons in high political office
then the law of proberbility allows for...


Trouble is, the law of probability only applies to random events, not people's personal preferences.

[eastbeast]

This is known as 'side tracking"
nothing to do with thread

I didn't think so, I was curious to know what the percentage might be here in England, it seems a shame in some ways that we couldn't find out what every Freemason or member of so-called secret societies do or did for a living, then perhaps we would really know the truth about how little influence we have on society etc.



Freemasons do this a lot
a practiced skill .. cool huh

Much in the same way as those who are anti anything do. Don't bother trying to deny it, it has been seen in this thread and many others.

banoyes you are obviously capable of putting forward a valid and interesting point of view without speculation and figure manipulation and I have enjoyed reading some of your posts so why not keep it that way?

[banoyes]

Third post - I did!

So right back at you:D

Now why don't you try a post that contains the names of people in high places at the same time (rather than spread across history) who are actually Masons.

Mike

It's the first post
It's what this thread is about -Third post is yours about numbers

The coincidence rolls on
In the USA there are about 1.6 million Freemasons
that 0.33353333333333335% of the population

Gerald Ford- Freemason his VP Nelson Rockefeller Freemason

Jimmy Carter was a member of the CFR, but was not a Freemason
-one of the few one term Presidents
His VP Walter Mondale was a Freemason

Reagan- Freemason 33 degree his VP Bush -Skull and Bones

Bush- Skull and Bones his VP Dan Quayle (CFR, Bilderberg Group)

Clinton-Demolay (Freemason) his Vice President Al Gore 33degree Freemason

Bush-Skull and Bones Cheney -Skull and Bones

Thats a pretty fair coincidence huh
You can think it means nothing
or you can look at history and see
It means everything
Oh...
Obama -Prince Hall Freemason
http://www.rense.com/general80/obmw.htm

Joe Biden- CFR - During the interview conducted by the Jewish ‘Shalom TV’
Biden said, “I am a Zionist. You don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.”


The post is for normal people
No matter how much evidence you show about Freemasons it will be denied
I can't blame the individual Mason for wanting to defend something he swore his life to
I can only blame them for being willfully ignorant
or
They agree with the Agenda and hope to profit from its' success.
The overabundence of Freemasons in high political office is easily seen
This is no accident or coincidence
Which makes it a conspiracy
Thats what Freemasonry has been doing through out time
Bilderberg founded by Prince Bernhard a Freemason
B'nai B'rith founded by Freemasons
Skull and Bones a Freemason off shoot
AMA founded by Freemasons
KKK a Freemason enterprise
There are many more
Freemasonary starts them up and then withdraws
The stage is set
I realize there is an overabundance of Freemasons on this site
and I expect attacks
But
as I said this information is for normal people
Let them see how the cabal works
here and in the world

[mike martin]

It's the first post
It's what this thread is about -Third post is yours about numbers
Third post was where I pointed out that you had listed some names then said they were Masons.

The post is for normal people
Let's be honest! You mean people who are willing to take what you write as truth.

No matter how much evidence you show about Freemasons it will be denied
Evidence? Have a laugh your say-so is not evidence of anything other than what you think.

I keep pointing out a rough outline of what would be evidence but you just ignore that to rant some more.

I can't blame the individual Mason for wanting to defend something he swore his life to
I can blame you for wilfully ignoring what people who know better than you explain to you.

I can only blame them for being willfully ignorant
or
They agree with the Agenda and hope to profit from its' success.
The overabundence of Freemasons in high political office is easily seen
This is no accident or coincidence
Which makes it a conspiracy
Thats what Freemasonry has been doing through out time
Bilderberg founded by Prince Bernhard a Freemason
B'nai B'rith founded by Freemasons
Skull and Bones a Freemason off shoot
AMA founded by Freemasons
KKK a Freemason enterprise
There are many more
Freemasonary starts them up and then withdraws
The stage is set
I realize there is an overabundance of Freemasons on this site
and I expect attacks
But
as I said this information is for normal people
Let them see how the cabal works
here and in the world

It appears that you
are just
one of
life's natural
born fools.

Mike

[slartibartfast]

There seems to be basic logic fallacy here. Banoyes appears to think that any action by or view of a member of an organisation is automatically an action or view of the organisation. Not sure how well that sits with the activities of some members of some organised religions.

[mike martin]

There seems to be basic logic fallacy here. Banoyes appears to think that any action by or view of a member of an organisation is automatically an action or view of the organisation. Not sure how well that sits with the activities of some members of some organised religions.

SEE?

It's not just me either.

Mike

[banoyes]

There seems to be basic logic fallacy here. Banoyes appears to think that any action by or view of a member of an organisation is automatically an action or view of the organisation. Not sure how well that sits with the activities of some members of some organised religions.
Another "Its all coincidence" defense
yah
well that is an indication of your abilities

[agneau]

Came across a marvellous maxim the other day, Mike, that seems appropriate here:

"Never argue with a fool, because they just drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience..."

[slartibartfast]

Another "Its all coincidence" defense
yah
well that is an indication of your abilities

Coincidences turn into Conspiracies when all inconvenient information is ignored.

[oddblock]

I wonder what percentage of the posters on this forum are Masons. Would it correlate with these percentages?

Seems to be a lot more Masons here than those results would figure.

I wonder why?

[slartibartfast]

Sorry, I thought this part of the forum was for discussing Secret Societies...

[banoyes]

Sorry, I thought this part of the forum was for discussing Secret Societies...
To your mind it will be about "coincidences"
and how wrongfully they are placed at the good feet of Freemasonry

[slartibartfast]

To your mind it will be about "coincidences"
and how wrongfully they are placed at the good feet of Freemasonry

You started with Coincidences not me. I just don't believe that by labelling people you can read across the acts of the people to the label.

[banoyes]

You started with Coincidences not me. I just don't believe that by labelling people you can read across the acts of the people to the label.
.
slartibartfast
There seems to be basic logic fallacy here. Banoyes appears to think that any action by or view of a member of an organisation is automatically an action or view of the organisation. Not sure how well that sits with the activities of some members of some organised religions. .
The coincidence defense
just more deception from Freemason
They label themselves .. more deception
2 freeking sentences, all deceptions
Your Freemason slip is showing

[slartibartfast]

.
The coincidence defense


What has this to do with coincidences??? :confused:

[kappy0405]

this section is funny..

"freemasons are evil"

"Im a freemason, NO THEYRE NOT!"

"yes they are"

"no theyre not"

and so it goes on... and on, and on, etc. in every other thread in this section.. atleast from what Ive noticed.

some facts.. Adam Weishaupt intended to use freemasonry as a front for his Illuminati. Several members infiltrated the Grand Orient in France, which to this day takes credit and pride in their role in the French Revolution, which was funded by the Rothschild Illuminati. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson also acknowledged that the Illuminati made it to America and worked through freemasonry as a front. They were satisfied by this, and since then, several presidents/vp's and other important figureheads have been freemasons.

Does this mean the society is leading the conspiracy? No. It does mean that several top level masons are part of the conspiracy though. But that has little to nothing to do with the organization itself. It doesnt mean that freemasons or the organization are evil. It just indicates that several men, who are involved with the conspiracy, happen to be masons and use that as a front for their power/influence, which has been intended since the beginning. Big deal.

I think I read somewhere that over 90% of those 1 million+ freemasons are lower than the 3rd degree. Is that true? What degree are you guys?

[boots]

this section is funny..

"freemasons are evil"

"Im a freemason, NO THEYRE NOT!"

"yes they are"

"no theyre not"

and so it goes on... and on, and on, etc. in every other thread in this section.. atleast from what Ive noticed.

some facts.. Adam Weishaupt intended to use freemasonry as a front for his Illuminati. Several members infiltrated the Grand Orient in France, which to this day takes credit and pride in their role in the French Revolution, which was funded by the Rothschild Illuminati. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson also acknowledged that the Illuminati made it to America and worked through freemasonry as a front. They were satisfied by this, and since then, several presidents/vp's and other important figureheads have been freemasons.

Does this mean the society is leading the conspiracy? No. It does mean that several top level masons are part of the conspiracy though. But that has little to nothing to do with the organization itself. It doesnt mean that freemasons or the organization are evil. It just indicates that several men, who are involved with the conspiracy, happen to be masons and use that as a front for their power/influence, which has been intended since the beginning. Big deal.

I think I read somewhere that over 90% of those 1 million+ freemasons are lower than the 3rd degree. Is that true? What degree are you guys?


Your funny. Deluded funny:rolleyes:

Thanks to banyones Thread. read this.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=592943&postcount=1

I doubt you will.


Oh yes Kappy, it's all just a coincidence. Yeah right.:rolleyes:


Wakey wakey, hand of snakey.


You and your mason friends should stop walking around with your blinkers on and start to THINK a bit.



.

[kappy0405]

Your funny. Deluded funny:rolleyes:

Thanks to banyones Thread. read this.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=592943&postcount=1

I doubt you will.


Oh yes Kappy, it's all just a coincidence. Yeah right.:rolleyes:


Wakey wakey, hand of snakey.


You and your mason friends should stop walking around with your blinkers on and start to THINK a bit.



.

jeez, all i said was that freemasonry as a whole isnt an evil organization. I DID say that most top-level masons were part of the conspiracy, and use the organization to increase their influence. Can you not read? but Im deluded?? mmk.

Do you really believe that every single freemason is in on it? thats funny. I guarantee most are completely unaware of anything Illuminati-esque.

[banoyes]

jeez, all i said was that freemasonry as a whole isnt an evil organization. I DID say that most top-level masons were part of the conspiracy, and use the organization to increase their influence. Can you not read? but Im deluded?? mmk.

Do you really believe that every single freemason is in on it? thats funny. I guarantee most are completely unaware of anything Illuminati-esque.
Co incidence??
Political Leaders USA
· Bill Clinton, Senior Demolay (Masonic youth group)
· Newt Gingrich, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Bob Dole, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Jack Kemp, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Storm Thurmond, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Colin Powell, 33rd Degree Freemason, U.S. Secretary of State
· Jesse Helms, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Barry Goldwater, 33rd Degree Freemason
· Al Gore, Freemason
· George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, William Taft, Warren Harding, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. were all Masonic Presidents of the U.S.A.

Political Leaders Canada
· Sir John A. MacDonald, Prime Minister of Canada 1867-1873 & 1878-1891
· Sir John J.C. Abbott, Prime Minister of Canada 1891-1892
· Sir Mackenzie Bowell, Prime Minister of Canada 1894-1896
· Sir Robert L. Borden, Prime Minister of Canada 1911-1920
· Viscount R.B. Bennett, Prime Minister of Canada 1930-1935
· John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada 1957-1963

Political Leaders Australia
· Sir Edmond Barton, Prime Minister of Australia 1901-1903
· Sir George Huston Reid, Prime Minister of Australia 1904-1905
· Sir Joseph Cook, Prime Minister of Australia 1913-1914
· Vincent Stanley Melbourne Bruce, Prime Minister of Australia 1923-1929
· Sir Earle Christmas Grafton Page, Prime Minister of Australia 1930-1939
· Sir Robert Gordon Menzies, Prime Minister of Australia 1939-1941 & 1949-1966
· Sir Arthur William Fadden, Prime Minister of Australia 1941
· Sir John Grey Gorton, Prime Minister of Australia 1968-1971
· Sir William McMahon, Prime Minister of Australia 1971-1972
· Bob Hawke, Prime Minister of Australia

International Political Leaders
· King Hussein, King of Jordan, deceased, 33rd Freemason
· Yitzak Rabin , assassinated leader of Israel
· Yassar Arafat, leader of the PLO
· Prince Phillip, British Royalty
· Duke of Kent, British Royalty
· Winston Churchhill, British Leader

Religious Leaders
· Billy Graham, World's most popular 'Christian' evangelist is a 33rd Degree Freemason
· Norman Vincent Peale, 33rd Degree Freemason, ex Grand Chaplain of the Grand Lodge of New York, Past Grand Prelate of the Knights Templar and Shriner. (now deceased)
· Robert Schuller, 33rd Degree Freemason, Pastor of the Crystal Cathedral and host of the popular "Hour of Power" television programme
· Oral Roberts, 33rd Degree Freemason, founder of Oral Roberts University
· Jesse Jackson, 33rd Degree Prince Hall Freemason
· Louis Farrahkan, leader of the Nation Of Islam
· Geoffrey Fisher, Archbishop of Canterbury 1945-1961
· Father Francisco Calvo, Jesuit Catholic priest who started Freemasonry in Costa Rica
· G. Bromley Oxnam, 33rd Degree Freemason, friend of Billy Graham, head of the FCC churches
Mormons, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
· Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon cult
· Hyrum Smith, brother of Joseph Smith
· Brigham Young, 2nd leader of the Mormon cult
· Sidney Rigdon, early Mormon
· Heber C. Kimball, wished that all men were Freemasons
· Spencer Kimball , closet Freemason, grandchild of Herber, friend of Norman Vincent Peale

Economic Leaders
· Two of the World's largest international banking dynasties namely the Rothschilds and the Rockefeller family are both Masonic families. Their combined wealth is incalculable.
Other Famous Freemasons
· Rich DeVos, 33 Degree Freemason, founder of the Amway Corporation
· Franz Anton Mesmer, practiced Mesmerism which led to Hypnotism
· J. Edgar Hoover, 33rd Degree Freemason, Director of the FBI
· Walt Disney, founder of the Disney Corporation
There's plenty more
and you are wrong about the low ranked being un-aware.
I used to think the same thing
however I now realize they ARE aware of the HISTORY of Freemasonry
I think they agree with the Agenda and hope to profit from it
There may be a few who join for social reasons
but the majority are as guilty as the top
and remember
without support from bellow
the whole structure crumbles
Nope
There are very few "innocent" Freemasons

[eastbeast]

jeez, all i said was that freemasonry as a whole isnt an evil organization. I DID say that most top-level masons were part of the conspiracy, and use the organization to increase their influence. Can you not read? but Im deluded?? mmk.


Ah but you see that doesn't seem to matter to banoyes.

[banoyes]

Ah but you see that doesn't seem to matter to banoyes.



and you are wrong about the low ranked being un-aware.
I used to think the same thing
however I now realize they ARE aware of the HISTORY of Freemasonry
I think they agree with the Agenda and hope to profit from it
There may be a few who join for social reasons
but the majority are as guilty as the top
and remember
without support from bellow
the whole structure crumbles
Nope
There are very few "innocent" Freemasons

Oh it matters