View Full Version : Obama: "A new spirit of sacrifice and patriotism"
devotional soul
05-11-2008, 09:05 AM
Obama's says in his acceptance speech:
"It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.
So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other."
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 09:12 AM
I reacted to Obama using words like 'sacrifice' and being 'selfless'. On the surface these words sound innocent, patriotic and for the common good.
I have ranted myself blue in the face in other threads trying to point out that sacrifice and being selfless are evil ideas, probably pushed by a predator elite who have used these kinds of tricks throughout history.
freedomnonfighter
05-11-2008, 09:53 AM
Yes, exactly.
What, exactly, can't happen without us? "Change"?? define this Change I keep hearing about!
What are we sacrificing? And who benefits from these sacrifices? What are we to work harder at, and for whom, and to what end?
Patriotism, lol.. what a joke.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 10:49 AM
I wonder if Obama's speech writers have used the term 'common good' in any of his speeches.
The term 'common good' and the word 'selfless' are incompatible. Selfless means more than just self-less, to have a lesser self, it means having no self at all. :eek: That's hive-mind Borg mentality.
The common good INCLUDES yourself. It's even correct to say that the common good is based on self-more.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z191/empresspalpatine/ObamaBorg.jpg
haukipesukone
05-11-2008, 11:14 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z191/empresspalpatine/ObamaBorg.jpg
That's offensive. Equating something as sacred as Picard with Obama. Yuk.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 11:23 AM
That's offensive. Equating something as sacred as Picard with Obama. Yuk.
Hehe. But you have to admit that Obama looks a bit like a Borg. :eek:
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 11:34 AM
I don't know yet if Obama will be good or evil. It would be a good idea to watch out for new laws about mandatory microchipping of people and things like that.
http://www.signsofchristreturn.com/7_22_051002_microchip.jpg
darketernal
05-11-2008, 12:42 PM
When he, or any world leader, uses the word sacrifice in a speech such as this, they mean actually human sacrifice. Just like the troops that have died in Iraq are making a sacrifice. The people who died on 9/11 and 7/7 were sacrifices.
A new spirit of service and a new spirit of sacrifice? Think long and hard about what this man is actually saying.
When he, or any world leader, uses the word sacrifice in a speech such as this, they mean actually human sacrifice. Just like the troops that have died in Iraq are making a sacrifice. The people who died on 9/11 and 7/7 were sacrifices.
A new spirit of service and a new spirit of sacrifice? Think long and hard about what this man is actually saying.
I sadly suspect that you are correct DE :(
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 02:10 PM
When he, or any world leader, uses the word sacrifice in a speech such as this, they mean actually human sacrifice. Just like the troops that have died in Iraq are making a sacrifice. The people who died on 9/11 and 7/7 were sacrifices.
A new spirit of service and a new spirit of sacrifice? Think long and hard about what this man is actually saying.
:eek: Yikes! I hope Obama is not totally in the hands of the military industrial complex. This reminds me of something Benjamin Fulford said: at some point all leaders, like Obama, are given an ultimatum: cooperate or die. Nasty stuff. Let's hope that Obama is protected by some good powers.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 02:40 PM
One reason why Obama may not be totally in the hands of the war-mongering Orcs is that he seems to have been selected to do business with Muslim and Christian nations, not for weapon deals, but for securing natural resources for the U.S. in competition with China and other large resource-hungry countries.
That is a huge shift compared to the bullying Orc mentality involving the CIA and the military, false flag events, staged rebellions and all that nasty stuff carried out in order to overthrow governments in developing nations.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 03:04 PM
I hope Obama is the Messiah and not the Anti-Christ. :confused:
Then we can tell George W. Bush: But fear not. Since I have seen how good you are at following orders, I will tell you what to do next: run back to your master Dick Cheney and give him this message: his time is almost up! Now I must say adieu and goodbye. I have some real business to do.
armoured_amazon
05-11-2008, 03:11 PM
I hope Obama is the Messiah and not the Anti-Christ. :confused:
JESUS is the Messiah. It would be nice if Obama was on our side, but highly unlikely.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 04:09 PM
JESUS is the Messiah. It would be nice if Obama was on our side, but highly unlikely.
Ron Paul is THE Messiah. :D But seriously, I hope Obama can bring a new kind of leadership to America. That would have a great impact on the rest of the world.
planetsadhana
05-11-2008, 04:19 PM
investigate and expose 911, put bush and his friends in jail., expose the nwo, stop all American wars,expose the banking fraud, declare himself not a democrat and abolish the two party fraud,redistribute Rothchild wealth to stop poverty,
If he does this he might be on our side...;)
lizzy
05-11-2008, 04:30 PM
I sadly suspect that you are correct DE :(
hi jojo...yes, I agree......Obama also means financial sacrifice (higher taxes) and 'freedoms' ....the African Americans might be the first to wake up and realise they were sold 'a bill of goods'.............
damagedbrainn
05-11-2008, 04:35 PM
investigate and expose 911, put bush and his friends in jail., expose the nwo, stop all American wars,expose the banking fraud, declare himself not a democrat and abolish the two party fraud,redistribute Rothchild wealth to stop poverty,
If he does this he might be on our side...;)
I think you have a highly exaggerated sense of what powers the Presidency has. The only doable thing on that list would be stopping all American Wars, since the President is Commander in Chief....though it's not very likely that he will. The least doable thing on the list is "redistributing" Rothschild wealth, since the U.S. President can't really seize and control the currency of other nations....I think the international community might object to that a little.
planetsadhana
05-11-2008, 04:37 PM
exactly....I was saying it tongue in cheek as a response to Anders post,
the presidency is a puppet position
damagedbrainn
05-11-2008, 04:55 PM
exactly....I was saying it tongue in cheek as a response to Anders post,
the presidency is a puppet position
No, it's not a puppet position either. It has real power and influence, just not as much as people seem to imagine. The president is just one branch of a larger government. He's not a dictator or a king, nor should he be.
A President, like any other politician, can serve as a puppet if they so choose, but it's always a matter of choice, not inherent obligation.
zen_fox
05-11-2008, 05:10 PM
JESUS is the Messiah. It would be nice if Obama was on our side, but highly unlikely.
No, he's not.
plonker
05-11-2008, 05:21 PM
~~
I am a USA voting machine
my agenda is hidden, my software unclean...
controlled by turds with lies to maintain
...1 for Obama means 2 for McCain
xpleet
05-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Obama's says in his acceptance speech:
"It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.
So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other."
plain evil.
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 05:32 PM
No, it's not a puppet position either. It has real power and influence, just not as much as people seem to imagine. The president is just one branch of a larger government. He's not a dictator or a king, nor should he be.
A President, like any other politician, can serve as a puppet if they so choose, but it's always a matter of choice, not inherent obligation.
I guess it also depends a lot on what kind of powers are supporting the president. George W. Bush has probably been controlled by nasty powers. He maybe even tried to tell us that with his weird comments about watching the first plane hitting WTC on television when no public television channel showed that. He said this on at least TWO separate press conferences so it was hardly just a slip up.
devotional soul
05-11-2008, 05:47 PM
USA is on the sacrifice alter of the NWO.
Freedom dies with a roaring applause. :(
kesdin
05-11-2008, 06:01 PM
It's a set-up. GWB was a set-up. Because American's are too proud to admit it... Isn't it kind of over exaggerated of how stupid GWB was? He was a set-up for the minds of Americans (especially white) to ease up some of their views of black ppl. The average white suburban has a quick stereotype view of black ppl. Even if they don't admit it, I can tell because I read body language very well.
Problem - reaction - solution. GWB was the problem, Obama is the solution? The reaction from GWB was fear, uncertainty and ripe for "change".
Well, the reason I'm saying this is because, I was given what I call a rare dream. I cannot say what it was but basically, hold fast soldiers. Here come the fight. It feels like the end of the world (or the decisive moment) is near.
zen_fox
05-11-2008, 06:05 PM
When I heard the sacrifice and patriotism part I became curious about what that truly meant.
london_lad_84
05-11-2008, 07:17 PM
I sadly suspect that you are correct DE :(
No surprises that Obama is not a saint, predictable.
simplify
05-11-2008, 07:24 PM
Yes, exactly.
What, exactly, can't happen without us? "Change"?? define this Change I keep hearing about!
What are we sacrificing? And who benefits from these sacrifices? What are we to work harder at, and for whom, and to what end?
Patriotism, lol.. what a joke.
all very good questions that Obama has not yet answered, but used to inspire the voters. That the voters elected him on such words, without explaination is very scary. To me, it means that the people are now firmly in the control of THPB. It scares me to think of what the next part of the agenda will bring:eek:
fromthatshow
05-11-2008, 07:24 PM
Sacrifice is never needed. That I don't like. But everything else about his speech about change and unity I did. I can't help but see Obama as a genuinely good guy. I don't know.
:eek: Yikes! I hope Obama is not totally in the hands of the military industrial complex. This reminds me of something Benjamin Fulford said: at some point all leaders, like Obama, are given an ultimatum: cooperate or die. Nasty stuff. Let's hope that Obama is protected by some good powers.
Unlikely , i mean if you even get news coverage about running for president i would bet 9/10 they are in the banks etc pocket.
thethirdeye
05-11-2008, 07:35 PM
yea, obama like the others is comanded by iluminates, there isn't any oposition between Bush and Obama, it is ilusion for us to thing that there are opositions, I quess they are frends, here in Macedonia the government of USA builts ambasady long 1 km, and deep 500m. They will take our hood to make it biger, I quess they dig some underground tunels, God or Matrix help us, what ever
quelyn
05-11-2008, 07:57 PM
Hi everyone,
I feel the need to share my recent experience involving the election. First, let me preface this with the knowledge that I am a very private person. I truly believe that usually it is counter productive to discuss religion/politics/this site with a known disinterested audience. And I don't!
My exercise group has been openly very Obama crazy supportive! This is being pushed my one very assertive black gal. So, I was staying out of this mentality until the promoter of the frenzy insisted I take an Obama button to wear. She wouldn't take a polite no and smile for an answer. That was truly all that happened. This lady has told everyone that will listen of my Obama rejection and appears to be doing a nice job of blackballing me. I notice how uncomfortable everyone has become with this issue. So, I am staying out of this mess and so forth. BUT, if this can happen to my locked lips in a fairly educated liberal environment what about on the grand scale? This "feels" bigger and possibly a black/white issue!:confused::confused:
Any thoughts??????????????
Anders Lindman
05-11-2008, 08:07 PM
Unlikely , i mean if you even get news coverage about running for president i would bet 9/10 they are in the banks etc pocket.
What I'm hoping for is that there are several different 'teams' of power. Some good and some evil. Even powers that go across boundaries, such as some powers in the defense departments are likely good while others are evil.
The problem is that the top of the power pyramid, the capstone, seems to be controlled by a nasty Illuminati group or something. My hope is that the good powers have become strong enough to be able to fight the evil forces.
sukyspook
05-11-2008, 09:49 PM
Along with the word 'sacrifice' which all deaths in war are and are dedicated to 'their' god Baal/saturn/satan as in obelisks, Obama also spoke those two most important little words in his speech:
COMMON PURPOSE
At 11:00 on the 11th day of the 11th month, "the queen", once more, will lay a wreath of poppies (symbol of pope and opium which is probably symbolic of we the people being drugged not to notice the evil ongoing agenda) at yet another obelisk, called the 'cenotaph'.....note the male and female symbols - the wreath = female and the obelisk is the symbol for the male penis.......
This is the latest 'abomination of desolation' - or should that be an 'obamanation of desolation' ie the male/femal sexual organs as worshipped by the global elite - the babylonian talmudist witches/satanists who "worship the Creation more than the Creator":
http://www.thenma.org.uk/uploads/images/AFM_below.jpg
When I first saw this abomination, I couldn't work out what it all meant. Then I realised that the two straight lines that cross the circle represent the female labia....yes, sadly, it's true.
http://www.thenma.org.uk/uploads/images/AFM_opening.jpg
seeker1111
05-11-2008, 09:55 PM
Funny how he never mentions what sort of change we can expect. All I hear is change change change!!!
I want to know what kind of change. But, America, has now fully given their consent. Kind of like the people who raise their hand when somebody says "Who wants to volunteer?" before you know anything about what you're consenting to.
And when and if shit starts to hit the fan America has already been neatly divided. The half who voted for Mcain will say "I told you so" and the other half will be devastated.
blueyonder2012
05-11-2008, 10:03 PM
investigate and expose 911, put bush and his friends in jail., expose the nwo, stop all American wars,expose the banking fraud, declare himself not a democrat and abolish the two party fraud,redistribute Rothchild wealth to stop poverty,
If he does this he might be on our side...;)
Well Said;)
.
breezinreezin
05-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Hi everyone,
I feel the need to share my recent experience involving the election. First, let me preface this with the knowledge that I am a very private person. I truly believe that usually it is counter productive to discuss religion/politics/this site with a known disinterested audience. And I don't!
My exercise group has been openly very Obama crazy supportive! This is being pushed my one very assertive black gal. So, I was staying out of this mentality until the promoter of the frenzy insisted I take an Obama button to wear. She wouldn't take a polite no and smile for an answer. That was truly all that happened. This lady has told everyone that will listen of my Obama rejection and appears to be doing a nice job of blackballing me. I notice how uncomfortable everyone has become with this issue. So, I am staying out of this mess and so forth. BUT, if this can happen to my locked lips in a fairly educated liberal environment what about on the grand scale? This "feels" bigger and possibly a black/white issue!:confused::confused:
Any thoughts??????????????
Yes. These are the actions of fanatics. I can well imagine, as it happens on this forum all the time, that it did become a white/black thing in many places--'if you don't support Obama, you must be racist', sort of deal. It's the crude reasoning of a zealot. Left wing bigotry is ok though, apparently.
frankanne
05-11-2008, 10:48 PM
Hi everyone,
I feel the need to share my recent experience involving the election. First, let me preface this with the knowledge that I am a very private person. I truly believe that usually it is counter productive to discuss religion/politics/this site with a known disinterested audience. And I don't!
My exercise group has been openly very Obama crazy supportive! This is being pushed my one very assertive black gal. So, I was staying out of this mentality until the promoter of the frenzy insisted I take an Obama button to wear. She wouldn't take a polite no and smile for an answer. That was truly all that happened. This lady has told everyone that will listen of my Obama rejection and appears to be doing a nice job of blackballing me. I notice how uncomfortable everyone has become with this issue. So, I am staying out of this mess and so forth. BUT, if this can happen to my locked lips in a fairly educated liberal environment what about on the grand scale? This "feels" bigger and possibly a black/white issue!:confused::confused:
Any thoughts??????????????
Yep. Just had a similar thing with my son's black friend, who is all 'Yea, a black president!!!'. He has absolutely no idea about Obama's policies or what he stands for, except that he's black and that means that anyone who thinks that Obama might not be a good thing for humanity must be racist.
netta
05-11-2008, 10:55 PM
Here are some quotes about Barack Obama from an article that is from yahoo news.
"Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place," South Africa's first black president, Nelson Mandela, said in a letter of congratulations to Obama.
"This is the fall of the Berlin Wall times ten," Rama Yade, France's black junior minister for human rights, told French radio. "America is rebecoming a New World.
"What an inspiration. He is the first truly global U.S. president the world has ever had," said Pracha Kanjananont, a 29-year-old Thai sitting at a Starbuck's in Bangkok. "He had an Asian childhood, African parentage and has a Middle Eastern name. He is a truly global president."
hmmm...
source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_elections_world_view
simplify
05-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Yep. Just had a similar thing with my son's black friend, who is all 'Yea, a black president!!!'. He has absolutely no idea about Obama's policies or what he stands for, except that he's black and that means that anyone who thinks that Obama might not be a good thing for humanity must be racist.
Funny how the racism goes the other way.......its ok for the blacks to vote for a black president, simply because of his color, but its racist if the whites don't vote for him. Yet Obama has not answered their questions....what does he mean by change. Somehow this question does not seem important to them.......its all ok......he is black and he is automatically their savior. Scary.
Michelle LaVaughn Obama (née Robinson, born January 17, 1964)parents: Fraser Robinson and Marian Shields
Robinson = SON OF ROBIN
ROBIN (Robin Hood, Robin Goodfellow) = DEMON / DEVIL
Robin Goodfellow is a nick for a FAIRY, a HOBBIT. HOB is short for Robin (northern engish DEVIL).
Robin Goodfellow = SHAPESHIFTER (Trickster/ Demon). He wouldnt only change his looks, he would do you favors. When you didnt pay him, he'd get back at you (Trick or Treat = HALLOWEEN, demonic SACRIFICE festival).
Robin Hood shouted HO HO HO = SANTA = SATAN. Santa is another hooded dwarfish, dark thing that comes in the night and brings a bag to carry away the children (BOOGEYMAN, BOGLE, BOGIE; BUG).
As stated in the first source (1500) Robin Hood was a murderer (highwayman). His action reminded to goblins and dwarfs. DEMONS.
Possible, the first Robin Hood was an ELF (eleven), fairy, a PUCK, POOCA, who hides in the forest in order to attack people, especially TRAVELERS.
People that have said to have been kidnapped by ALIENS are either on the way / en-route in a car, or en-route in dreamland while sleeping.
BOOGEYMAN who is a Robin is the SCHWARZE MANN (german name for black man).
see:
http://www.ufos-co.de/news_artikel/h...hp?storyid=401
vladmir
06-11-2008, 04:21 AM
yeah, well service and sacrifice to whome?
why Lucifer of course!
http://i34.tinypic.com/2uivh2x.jpg
Change is so awesome hahahahaha...yeah right!
baeinu
06-11-2008, 05:54 AM
Yes, exactly.
What, exactly, can't happen without us? "Change"?? define this Change I keep hearing about!
What are we sacrificing? And who benefits from these sacrifices? What are we to work harder at, and for whom, and to what end?
Patriotism, lol.. what a joke.
I am sure beyond reason that "change" is a blanket statement for "look what Bush did, I am going to be a welcome change from him," which makes people elated. For some reason people in the United States are woefully ignorant of the election process, what the various parts of the government are supposed to do under the constitution, and could care less about being informed about what is happening in the world and have someone else do the "hard stuff" for them. It is literally chilling, it is like people WANT a dictator to do everything for them. If one was to look at the various candidates web pages, they say "Barack Obama will do ____," or "John McCain will do ____." If EITHER had anything that was truly worthwhile they would have proposed it to the Congress already and it would be passed through. Alas, people forget about the Congress being supposed to have more power than the president.
Honestly, I find this entire election heart-breaking. People immediately "changed" their view of Obama from an inexperienced senator into a messiah-like figure with an impression legislative record. At my university, they have had a group of rabid Obama supporters literally harassing people with their message of "hope" and "change" near every building. They even purchased a bi-plane to fly around campus for a week with an Obama symbol flying off the back. Apparently they were able to get their message across well enough as after Obama was declared winner of the election, an impromptu parade was mounted on the main drag and people ran out of buildings, apartments, homes, and dorms yelling with joy. I also noticed that the US election was front page news on most every international and national news source with all of the commentators giving panegyrics for Obama. Was Bush literally that bad? Why are you not blaming the Congress? Why are you not lambasting the democrats who *REFUSED* to impeach Bush? I think the answer lies in the down right stupidity of the American public..
I think the answer lies in the down right stupidity of the American public..
Unfortunately it's not just the Americans who are stupid, it's a worldwide problem.
devotional soul
06-11-2008, 07:16 AM
I posted this same thread on a mommy sheeple board, and almost all of them thought it was great! They think it means everyone uniting to make America better, to do more service for fellow Americans.
I couldn't even tell them how this coming 'change' could be the end of freedom, greeted with a roar of applause. I couldn't go into the satanic aspects of the ceremony.
People are going to get a rude awakening.
jhado
06-11-2008, 08:12 AM
Obama reminds me a lot of Blair, all his talk of change makes me think of Blair's third-way, and what a joy that turned out to be.
As for this,
Obama's says in his acceptance speech:
"It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.
So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other."
My first thought was uh-oh, more war, and the draught, or National service.
As an afterthought, we know that headlines and press coverage about things
usually are to hide something else. So while the media has got most everyone
dwelling on Obama........what's really going on?
pali_gap
06-11-2008, 09:17 AM
he is black and he is automatically their savior. Scary.
Im sure not all black people think like that(I hope)
romas
06-11-2008, 07:06 PM
Well if you're unaware of the conspiracy-detailed history of true events etc then yeah I can see why everyone is so horny about Obama, people lack information.