7th or 8th Black President?????

[burntright]

I came across this information tonight

See here:

http://jaymoinc.blogspot.com/2008/04...residents.html
http://www.thenorthstarnews.com/Full...d=N-presidents
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08036/854714-51.stm
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08036/854713-51.stm
http://www.afrochat.net/forums/black-history/18932-obama-wouldnt-first-black-president.html

I am unsure about the validity of these claims however if they are true Obama would be the 7th Black President or possibly the 8th if John Hanson was indeed black.

Does anyone know anything more about this?
Apparently some books have been written about this - has anyone read them?

[cognizant]

Could be true... never heard it before.

Bill Clinton, though, claimed to be the first Black President... And Obama really doesn't look like the average Black American.

[burntright]

I just thought it was interesting and if true this is a good example of how history has been hidden even today in the media with false claims of the 1st Black President.

I find it very sad that something like this has been kept from the public. It's like Chris Rock says white families don't need to tell their children that they can become president because they already know this but for African Americans there has been no black president for the children to look up to as a mentor.

I was also hoping someone would have an answer as to whether he is the 6th, 7th, or 8th Black President thinking that if he is the 8th a very powerful number and taking place in the year 2008 would show further evidence of the use of numerology

In visiting some other forums I see that many African Americans fear that racism could grow to bibilcal proportions once people realize that Obama is nothing more than a puppet for the NWO. I do hope this is not the case. Nothing creates more false hope than the idea that the next president will bring about positive change. The outcome would have been the same with McCain and I hope people are smart enough (thought I doubt it) to see this.

[chipstyxx]

There are lots of rumours about various presidents having black and/or native american ancestry, including Lincoln. Nothing has ever been proven (not many birth certificates or DNA evidence around at the time;)) and most of them looked 'white' enough to get away with it. From what I've read there were attempts to discredit these people by political rivals and claim that they may have been mixed race. If they were- then they were happy to keep quiet about it, which is understandable at the time. So in that respect I don't think it has been 'kept from the public'. It would be a hard thing to prove now unless lots of various descendents agreed to DNA testing.


A guy called Dr. Leroy Vaughn has written a book (not read it yet) claiming 5 presidents had some kind of African ancestry. Theres every reason for it to be possible considering a large proportion of the population at that time was made up of black slaves, of course the races must have mixed. Sounds very interesting and I think if any proof for these claims were presented it would change alot of peoples perspectives.

[cacadores]

I just thought it was interesting and if true this is a good example of how history has been hidden even today in the media with false claims of the 1st Black President.
If true. But none of this is difficult to research: photos exist of all Presidents after the 1850s and paintings of the rest: and they all show white people, with thin lips and noses.
Bear in mind that some Europeans with southern European or western Celtic connections have quite dark complections too, especially if they live an outdoor life.
Bear in mind also that when a president comes to power, it's like everyone and his dog claims to be related. And, sorry, but having a 16th strain of negro in you doesn't make you black.

What is 'black'?

Barrack Obama isn't black either.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3eUS7PF_6ygJ::www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/Dunham.jpg
Obama's parents.

He's half-black, half-white. If you want to talk about conspiracies, how about the PC conspiracy that got rid of the more descriptive term 'coloured' to denote mixed race (i.e. Obama), and then got rid of the term 'mixed race', so that it couldn't even be talked about at all! And then forced us, non-sensically, to describe anyone with even slightly negro colouring as 'black' even if they're genetically, culturally and dermatologically mainly 'white', thus lumping them together with true negros. And which then frowns upon the term 'negro' even, until we reach the crazy impasse whereby using the term 'nig**er' can result in a conviction, or not, depending on which race said it.

And in America, where ethnic solidarity is used as a rose-tinted crutch to identity (how many Irish-Americans even know where the Craik is?!), people are openly lumped together into spurious racial groups which can affect how they interact with mainstram culture. Ethnically homogenous radio stations, bars, clubs, music, housing, restautants and city 'quarters' feed a social pressure to conform to a steroetype and people of mixed ancestry have to fit in with these groups in order to be taken seriously. People from as diverse places as Guatamala, Portugal or Peru, with European or Mayan ancestry are lumped together as 'Hispanic' and treated as 'Hispanic' all their lives, even though the term is, at best, a language denomiation rather than anything else. And where Europeans with no Caucasion roots are described as 'Caucasian', but where northern Indians with real Caucasian ethnicity are described as 'Asian'.

http://www.tomcockrem.com/library/AFRICA/kenya/rift/images/Borana%20girl%20in%20Kalacha%20Oasis,%20Chalbi%20D esert_2.jpg
A Caucasion from Kenya

Where these same sub-continental 'Asians' are lumped together with racially mongoliod-featured peoples like the Japanese instead of with Europeans with whom they share more genes, history and culture.

This is the crazy twilight world where language manipulates our world and our relations to other human beings. And where the totally absurd happens, like when all Arctic-region native peoples and tribes must be called by the European imposed term 'Inuit', even those who are not Inuit, never have been Inuit and who were perfectly happy being called by the general term 'Eskimo'. Thus Yupik and Aleut-speaking peoples are given, what is to them, the name of an alien ethnic group. What could be more offensive?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Eskimo_Family_NGM-v31-p564-2.jpg
Eskimos, not 'Inuits'

But no matter: these absurd ethnic titles are simply a means whereby immoral western liberals get a rush of superior moral feeling by telling the rest of us what we can and can't say.

Obama 'black'?

I don't think so.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

If true. But none of this is difficult to research:..

That's a brilliant posting. I don't conform to any ethnic grouping stereotype- I am me, I am free. ;) :)

[cacadores]

Thanks