Obama the Messiah-Dictator more dangerous than Bus

[timezone]

Obama the Messiah-Dictator is more dangerous than Bush

The More Things “Change” The More They Stay The Same

http://freespeech.vo.llnwd.net/o25/pub/pp/images/november2008/041108top2.jpg

The messianic fervor which has preceded Barack Obama’s expected ascension to the White House has alarming implications for freedom and is a painful reminder that most Americans have once again been suckered into believing that the two-party monopoly offers any kind of solution to the crisis that we face.

For eight years during the term of Bill Clinton, Alex Jones was labeled a right-wing fascist for opposing him and for the past near-eight years Jones has been derided as a communist and even an Al-Qaeda member for railing against the Bush administration.

Now even regular readers of our own websites are calling Alex a right-wing racist once again merely for questioning the ascension of the new great leader - Barack Obama.

The messianic complex that has been attached to Obama is truly frightening. Bishops like Cornal Garnett Henning are calling Obama the new “Moses” while his supporters refer to him as “the black Jesus”.

In one You Tube clip, a woman hails Obama’s Godly powers by proclaiming that as soon as he is elected, all her problems will simply disappear, saying that Obama will help her personally almost like Jesus healed the sick and wounded.

The election of a new president should not be a mindless act of idolatry and fanfare, it should be a solemn commitment to find a leader who will follow the Constitution.

But Barack Obama will ride into office with a gigantic approval rating to rival that of Bush after 9/11, along with a complete power monopoly over the executive, the legislative, the judicial as well as widespread media support.

This makes Obama more dangerous than Bush and certainly a damn site more dangerous than a McCain administration, because his policies for at least a year or two will enjoy universal acclaim and voices of dissent will be drowned out by a wave of droning acquiescence.

Obama has all the political capital he needs to implement the terrifying policies that he has already announced and beef the architecture of the police state crafted by Bush.

- The creation of a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military to enforce Obama’s carbon tax scheme and the total regulation and control of the American middle class.

- Obama has talked openly about his intention to bomb Pakistan under the guise of pursuing terrorists, continuing a Bush administration policy of violating the sovereignty of foreign nations.

- The guarantee to “bankrupt” coal power plants, costing millions of American jobs and skyrocketing energy prices.

- Unbridled implementation and expansion of the banker bailout that is hated by the majority of American citizens yet was vigorously promoted by both Obama and McCain. Doling out taxpayer’s money to Wall Street, causing rampant inflation, a lowering in living standards and the destruction of the dollar.

- Obama has rhetorically supported the second amendment and an individual’s right to bear arms, but his actions tell a different story. Obama supports local gun ban laws, including his endorsement of a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois.

- Obama grandstands on the notion that he supports environmentalism with his climate change rhetoric, but his intention to extend biofuel subsidies will only accelerate price food costs that have already risen 75 per cent since 2002, causing economic distress and rioting in such countries as Haiti, Egypt, and Somalia, as well as deforestation on a massive scale.

Mark our words - the causes that the liberal left has been fighting for over the last eight years will simply be forgotten just like conservatives were put to sleep when Bush came to power. Obama is the pacifier that the establishment needs to quiet the simmering anger amongst Americans that has been threatening to boil over.

It will no longer be “fashionable” to fight the police state amongst the political left.

Mark our words - there will be no repeal of the Patriot Act, there will be no repeal of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, there will be no repeal of warrantless secret surveillance of American citizens.

Democratic control of Congress and the Senate since the 2006 elections has achieved nothing in the way of reversing the Bush administration’s assaults on the Constitution, so why should we expect Obama to do anything different?

Obama may eventually withdraw a portion of troops from Iraq but mark our words, they won’t be home long before they are sent off to bomb another broken-backed third world country, this time in the name of a United Nations-backed “humanitarian” war, just as Bill Clinton presided over in Somalia and Serbia with the full support of the establishment political left.

Indeed, Obama’s running mate Joe Biden has already “promised” and “guaranteed” that Obama will be faced with an international crisis that will mandate him to take “unpopular” and “tough” decisions in the context of foreign policy.

Don’t think for a second that our warnings about Obama are an endorsement for John McCain. We have tirelessly attempted to educate Americans about the two party monopoly and the fact that Democrats and Republicans serve the interests of the elite, not the people, and have for at least five decades since Kennedy was killed.

Obama is Coca-Cola and McCain is Pepsi - at the end of the day you’re still drinking the same beverage.

The two-party monopoly offers no solutions for the problems we face, in fact the two-party monopoly that you will be helping to maintain should you vote for either Obama or McCain - is the problem.

Stop falling for the same bait and switch trick again and again every eight years.

When George W. Bush was elected, conservatives were in adulation and awe, confident that after eight years of federal government expansion under Clinton, Bush - complete with slick conservative rhetoric and promises of change - would shrink the size of government and restore dignity to the office of President.

Nearly eight years later and what have we witnessed, a record expansion in the size of government and an almost universal contempt for America around the world.

When Tony Blair swept into power with a landslide in the British general election in 1997, the country breathed a collective sigh of relief that this new young dynamo would put right years of Tory malfeasance and provide the “change” that everyone was crying out for.

When Blair left office in 2007 he had created a Socialist surveillance police state and eliminated a huge popular approval lead the Labour Party had enjoyed over the Tories, leaving most of the public once again to demand Conservative rule.

When are we going to wake up to the fact that voting in the lesser of two evils is not a solution?

When are we going to realize that participating in a rigged system, where our vote means virtually nothing anyway because it is counted by a completely compromised and hackable voting machine, not only fails to address any of our problems, but actually compounds them because of our passive obedience in participating in the phony virtual reality presented to us as “democracy”?

When are we going to realize that by continually electing Democrats and Republicans, we are voting away our own freedom as the march towards a new world order and an American police state proceeds no matter who takes office?

[sickofslavery]

Hmmm, probably never.

[Anders Lindman]

- Obama has rhetorically supported the second amendment and an individual’s right to bear arms, but his actions tell a different story. Obama supports local gun ban laws, including his endorsement of a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois.


Let's hope that we will not see a lot of crazy shooting sprees in America created as a Problem-Reaction-Solution for banning owning guns for ordinary citizens. :eek:

[knightbk]

They should add a IQ test to the signup here so stupid posts like this don't get created.

[Anders Lindman]

crazy shooting sprees

The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody’s gonna go to school today
She’s gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn’t understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be show-ow-ow-ow-own?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er5uuCYi7q4

What reason? Answer: Problem-Reaction-Solution

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er5uuCYi7q4


The Telex machine is kept so clean
And it types to a waiting world
And mother feels so shocked
Father’s world is rocked
And their thoughts turn to their own little girl
Sweet 16 ain’t that peachy keen
Now that ain’t so neat to admit defeat
They can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reasons do you need?
Oh Oh Oh Oh

Problem-Reaction-Solution

[freedomnonfighter]

Good article.

[cognizant]

Obama's supporters remind me of Hitler's supporters. Yes, Obama is much scarier than Bush. Obama is a puppet-at least Bush had some control.

[i_am]

They should add a IQ test to the signup here so stupid posts like this don't get created.


Would you like to give your views on the subject?

There is no need to insult others for their views. Debate by all means :)

[cheesedanish]

What are David Icke's thoughts on Obama? Wonder if it will be in this
weeks newsletter?

[illuminatiman]

Obama the Messiah-Dictator is more dangerous than Bush

The More Things “Change” The More They Stay The Same

http://freespeech.vo.llnwd.net/o25/pub/pp/images/november2008/041108top2.jpg

The messianic fervor which has preceded Barack Obama’s expected ascension to the White House has alarming implications for freedom and is a painful reminder that most Americans have once again been suckered into believing that the two-party monopoly offers any kind of solution to the crisis that we face.

For eight years during the term of Bill Clinton, Alex Jones was labeled a right-wing fascist for opposing him and for the past near-eight years Jones has been derided as a communist and even an Al-Qaeda member for railing against the Bush administration.

Now even regular readers of our own websites are calling Alex a right-wing racist once again merely for questioning the ascension of the new great leader - Barack Obama.

The messianic complex that has been attached to Obama is truly frightening. Bishops like Cornal Garnett Henning are calling Obama the new “Moses” while his supporters refer to him as “the black Jesus”.

In one You Tube clip, a woman hails Obama’s Godly powers by proclaiming that as soon as he is elected, all her problems will simply disappear, saying that Obama will help her personally almost like Jesus healed the sick and wounded.

The election of a new president should not be a mindless act of idolatry and fanfare, it should be a solemn commitment to find a leader who will follow the Constitution.

But Barack Obama will ride into office with a gigantic approval rating to rival that of Bush after 9/11, along with a complete power monopoly over the executive, the legislative, the judicial as well as widespread media support.

This makes Obama more dangerous than Bush and certainly a damn site more dangerous than a McCain administration, because his policies for at least a year or two will enjoy universal acclaim and voices of dissent will be drowned out by a wave of droning acquiescence.

Obama has all the political capital he needs to implement the terrifying policies that he has already announced and beef the architecture of the police state crafted by Bush.

- The creation of a “civilian national security force” that is “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the U.S. military to enforce Obama’s carbon tax scheme and the total regulation and control of the American middle class.

- Obama has talked openly about his intention to bomb Pakistan under the guise of pursuing terrorists, continuing a Bush administration policy of violating the sovereignty of foreign nations.

- The guarantee to “bankrupt” coal power plants, costing millions of American jobs and skyrocketing energy prices.

- Unbridled implementation and expansion of the banker bailout that is hated by the majority of American citizens yet was vigorously promoted by both Obama and McCain. Doling out taxpayer’s money to Wall Street, causing rampant inflation, a lowering in living standards and the destruction of the dollar.

- Obama has rhetorically supported the second amendment and an individual’s right to bear arms, but his actions tell a different story. Obama supports local gun ban laws, including his endorsement of a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois.

- Obama grandstands on the notion that he supports environmentalism with his climate change rhetoric, but his intention to extend biofuel subsidies will only accelerate price food costs that have already risen 75 per cent since 2002, causing economic distress and rioting in such countries as Haiti, Egypt, and Somalia, as well as deforestation on a massive scale.

Mark our words - the causes that the liberal left has been fighting for over the last eight years will simply be forgotten just like conservatives were put to sleep when Bush came to power. Obama is the pacifier that the establishment needs to quiet the simmering anger amongst Americans that has been threatening to boil over.

It will no longer be “fashionable” to fight the police state amongst the political left.

Mark our words - there will be no repeal of the Patriot Act, there will be no repeal of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, there will be no repeal of warrantless secret surveillance of American citizens.

Democratic control of Congress and the Senate since the 2006 elections has achieved nothing in the way of reversing the Bush administration’s assaults on the Constitution, so why should we expect Obama to do anything different?

Obama may eventually withdraw a portion of troops from Iraq but mark our words, they won’t be home long before they are sent off to bomb another broken-backed third world country, this time in the name of a United Nations-backed “humanitarian” war, just as Bill Clinton presided over in Somalia and Serbia with the full support of the establishment political left.

Indeed, Obama’s running mate Joe Biden has already “promised” and “guaranteed” that Obama will be faced with an international crisis that will mandate him to take “unpopular” and “tough” decisions in the context of foreign policy.

Don’t think for a second that our warnings about Obama are an endorsement for John McCain. We have tirelessly attempted to educate Americans about the two party monopoly and the fact that Democrats and Republicans serve the interests of the elite, not the people, and have for at least five decades since Kennedy was killed.

Obama is Coca-Cola and McCain is Pepsi - at the end of the day you’re still drinking the same beverage.

The two-party monopoly offers no solutions for the problems we face, in fact the two-party monopoly that you will be helping to maintain should you vote for either Obama or McCain - is the problem.

Stop falling for the same bait and switch trick again and again every eight years.

When George W. Bush was elected, conservatives were in adulation and awe, confident that after eight years of federal government expansion under Clinton, Bush - complete with slick conservative rhetoric and promises of change - would shrink the size of government and restore dignity to the office of President.

Nearly eight years later and what have we witnessed, a record expansion in the size of government and an almost universal contempt for America around the world.

When Tony Blair swept into power with a landslide in the British general election in 1997, the country breathed a collective sigh of relief that this new young dynamo would put right years of Tory malfeasance and provide the “change” that everyone was crying out for.

When Blair left office in 2007 he had created a Socialist surveillance police state and eliminated a huge popular approval lead the Labour Party had enjoyed over the Tories, leaving most of the public once again to demand Conservative rule.

When are we going to wake up to the fact that voting in the lesser of two evils is not a solution?

When are we going to realize that participating in a rigged system, where our vote means virtually nothing anyway because it is counted by a completely compromised and hackable voting machine, not only fails to address any of our problems, but actually compounds them because of our passive obedience in participating in the phony virtual reality presented to us as “democracy”?

When are we going to realize that by continually electing Democrats and Republicans, we are voting away our own freedom as the march towards a new world order and an American police state proceeds no matter who takes office?

Thats right the rope a dope strikes again, people are so gulible! This is another brilliant post there have been a couple of good ones this morning. Glad not everyone is dupped by the hype!

[skyline]

omg this whole election crap has been as big as the diana murder.People crying FFS.Well free thinking friends there you have it,a prime example of how manipulated the sheep,yes I will openly use that term,are.Like I have said before the majority dont want to wake up,they love this crap


Did anyone notice his wife and daughters were wearing red and black???? mmmmmm

I have had to listen to mind spew crap from work colleages about this being a great thing

Alex Jones will no doubt be accused of racism now as will anyone who dares to critisize the new head.The black man in the white house the masonic duality

[helloperator]

Does anyone else get a feeling of smarminess from Obama, or is it just me?

[i_am]

omg this whole election crap has been as big as the diana murder.People crying FFS.Well free thinking friends there you have it,a prime example of how manipulated the sheep,yes I will openly use that term,are.Like I have said before the majority dont want to wake up,they love this crap


Did anyone notice his wife and daughters were wearing red and black???? mmmmmm

I have had to listen to mind spew crap from work colleages about this being a great thing

Alex Jones will no doubt be accused of racism now as will anyone who dares to critisize the new head.The black man in the white house the masonic duality

I was just talking to someone on the phone who brought that to my attention ( I don't watch TV)

What is the significance?

[astro zombie]

Does anyone else get a feeling of smarminess from Obama, or is it just me?

Oh totally. He's a fake piece of shit, i see right through him. He's a total stereotypical politician with his fake smile and by saying all the right things that people want to hear. Everybody should be able to see this. *sigh*

And i can't stand his fucking voice either for some reason.

[haukipesukone]

I'm pretty sure Obama is a real monster. Bush was a funny little monkey who did bad things. Obama is pure badness.

I'm glad for McCain he didn't "win". Maybe they let him rest now.

[1971]

Did anyone notice his wife and daughters were wearing red and black???? mmmmmm


what does this mean?

[boots]

I was just talking to someone on the phone who brought that to my attention ( I don't watch TV)

What is the significance?

G'Day i_am,

I think the significance of red and black are related to the Church of Satan.


???


.

[planetsadhana]

excellent post timezone , I believe this to be the worst choice for our freedom , people have got to wake up and see this man is just working for the cooperation

expect something major early in his term which will set the tone for his time in office...

a problem, reaction, solution...oh please obhama save us from these terrorists

americans have bought into the media hype.....he is just a puppet

[i_am]

or does it mean this minus the green?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_flag

red: the blood that unites all people of African ancestry, and shed for liberation;
black: black people whose existence as a nation, though not a nation-state, is affirmed by the existence of the flag; and
green: the abundant natural wealth of Africa.

[cheesedanish]

He is always seen as a Family man - good and wholesome!
I think the general public have no idea.
Do you think he took part in a Fest last night after all his
speeches? I wonder? .... man to be a fly on the wall!

[astro zombie]

Is that Russel Brand with David Icke in your avatar cheesedanish? If so holy shit that's awesome!

[skyline]

I was just talking to someone on the phone who brought that to my attention ( I don't watch TV)

What is the significance?

Masonic plan and simple

Red signifies regeneration dating back to egyptian times.black signifies grief.So with his wife you have the two regenerate and grief and with the children one wore black and one wore red.Its important

In a nutshell I think the message is grief from regeneration,ie Obama and his mainstream persona is positive for change but underlying the shits gona hit the fan

Just my take on it

[helloperator]

Obama says we need chains...I mean change

[skyline]

just to add his words are change...think red regenerate,a new America.Whats he means is new world order.The public will accept him and whatever he suggests throughout the honeymoon period

I also think its important to mention the colours Michelle I think thats her name wears.The dress shows a red blending into black.It may be a sign of her importance in the illuminati.She maybe the driving force behind the man

[tusme]

Dunno if anyone else heard it...while, briefly, listening to Obama's speech this am, he said something about..."there's new energy to harvest"...!? :eek:

[damagedbrainn]

Cutting to the chase:

Obama won the election, so he has to be part of the Conspiracy. The dogma of Conspirianity demands this. And that is all that it is: Dogma. It's not like you all sat down, reviewed a bunch of evidence, had an insightful discussion, and then came to the sober and rational conclusion that Obama is "one of them". He won the election, therefore he is one of "them"....you've reached this conclusion first and are now grasping for whatever half-assed "evidence" you can find. It would've been exactly the same regardless of who became President...even if it were Ron Paul.

Bottom line:

You were wrong. All of the "gurus" were wrong as well. Not a single prediction made by them about the outcome of this election, or the various disastrous things that were supposed to occur (possibly to keep Bush in power) came true. It was supposed to be Hillary Clinton....No, McCain....No, Bush was supposed to become el presidente for life! None of them were able to predict this outcome, despite all their enlightened truthseeking capabilities, and all the scrambling in the world isn't going to change that.

Is he a Mason? Is he Skull and Bones? Is he more closely related to european royalty than McCain? Has he been to Bohemian Grove? Is he a Bildeberger? Council on Foreign Relations? Who knows....but what we are definitely certain of is that his daughters were wearing black and red dresses. And he used the word "sacrifice" in his speech. That just says it all right there....what's wrong with all the "sheeple" that they would deny such blatantly obvious evidence.

You predict all these horrible things, and you get angry and defensive when they don't come true. There's something really sick about that.

[skyline]

Cutting to the chase:

Obama won the election, so he has to be part of the Conspiracy. The dogma of Conspirianity demands this. And that is all that it is: Dogma. It's not like you all sat down, reviewed a bunch of evidence, had an insightful discussion, and then came to the sober and rational conclusion that Obama is "one of them". He won the election, therefore he is one of "them"....you've reached this conclusion first and are now grasping for whatever half-assed "evidence" you can find. It would've been exactly the same regardless of who became President...even if it were Ron Paul.

Bottom line:

You were wrong. All of the "gurus" were wrong as well. Not a single prediction made by them about the outcome of this election, or the various disastrous things that were supposed to occur (possibly to keep Bush in power) came true. It was supposed to be Hillary Clinton....No, McCain....No, Bush was supposed to become el presidente for life! None of them were able to predict this outcome, despite all their enlightened truthseeking capabilities, and all the scrambling in the world isn't going to change that.

Is he a Mason? Is he Skull and Bones? Is he more closely related to european royalty than McCain? Has he been to Bohemian Grove? Is he a Bildeberger? Council on Foreign Relations? Who knows....but what we are definitely certain of is that his daughters were wearing black and red dresses. And he used the word "sacrifice" in his speech. That just says it all right there....what's wrong with all the "sheeple" that they would deny such blatantly obvious evidence.

You predict all these horrible things, and you get angry and defensive when they don't come true. There's something really sick about that.

Every aspect of everyones life in this reality is controlled.The elite use symbolism and be it CFR,Masons,Round Table,Skull and bones it matters not.There is not one outcome set on stone for them and dont forget they also infight for power.Its really obvious to anyone free thinking just connect the dots and for anyone who cannot see it then your fast asleep or in denial.There is no argument.Understand the power of symbolism and what it means to them

I am just glad I have learnt some aspects of the language they use

[shodan]

I'm over the moon nothing bad has happened yet, and I believed something would. I think its obvious Obama is one of them, endorsed by the clintons who have been researched extensively, the way he arrived on the scene from out of nowhere via the mainstream media which is controlled by the same people etc. Its not conspiracy, its common sense. The symbolism is used by them not us, and its everywhere, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the red and black is significant, but it would be foolish to take it as verbatim without more evidence.
Fantastic news that nothing bad happened and Martial Law wasn't made official, but it would be very silly to sit back and get the champagne out. They love to build us up just to knock us down - remember 7/7? the UK was on a major high the day before after winning the righht to host the olympics, then that high was swept away in one morning. thats how it works and what makes them tick.

[hokhmah]

In the press / media Obama's election to office is being spun like some bad 'imminent end of the world disaster movie',
where, against all odds, the black guy saves the human race and the planet.

Many of Obama's supporters are already calling him "the Messiah"
and "the Black Jesus"... Kenya is declaring the Thursday presidential election date
as a state national hoilday; and they want to build and name a new airport and a brand of beer after him.
European leaders are all singing his praises and the stock markets are going up, up , up...

Hey, is anyone else getting this from the Obama campaign statement logo

"CHANGE We can believe in"?

"CHANGE" = A R C H A N G E L

i.e. an Archangel we can believe in...

[celtic isis]

fuck i posted on wrong thread!

this is what i was looking for:

http://www.gaywired.com/Article.cfm?ID=18571

Obama Related to George Bush

A research study conducted by the New England Historic Genealogical Society has turned up a variety of interesting relations to the current Democratic & Republican presidential candidates. According to the study, Barack Obama is distantly related to such luminaries as George W. Bush and Brad Pitt, while Hillary Clinton has familial ties to Angelina Jolie and Madonna. John McCain turns out to be a cousin of First Lady Laura Bush.

[cheesedanish]

Yes it is!!

[itsallundercontrol]

Time to get ready for the worst episode of 24 youve ever seen
your not only a terrorist anymore if you disagree with the us govt youre now a racist as well
tick tock.......tick tock
Dont get me wrong id love to believe in this bullcrap but just looking at that photo of obama with the carefully engineered tear running down his cheek after the death of his granny made me want to hurl
And to those who say give him a chance well im ashamed to admit i fell for the blair bullshit all those years ago and actually voted for the first and last time and to me this is the usa,s blair moment
"hello jack its obama the terrorists are planning what! i dont want to do this but i guess im gonna have to"
tick tock...........tick tock

[skyline]

More on the significance of the Obamas victory clothing



Black from the remotest antiquity has been the symbol of grief and such is its significance to the Mason

Red is the color of fire, and fire was to the Egyptians the symbol of the regeneration and the purification of souls. Hence, in the Masonic system, red is the symbol of regeneration. Thus red is the color assigned to the Royal Arch Degree since that degree teaches the regeneration of life.



http://www.masonicdictionary.com/colors.html

[thelyran]

or does it mean this minus the green?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_flag

...It might be as simple as grieving for his dead grand-mother...and since no
nuclear strike,earth-quake or martial law happened,like so many on this forum predicted...maybe its time to see if Obama betrays his puppet-masters just
like JFK did...and if Obama does,hope his brains are'nt splattered by some
conspiracy...I hope something positive happens for the USA,despite how they
have treated the rest of the world with contempt for since the cessation of WW2...if not,they will fall....they have alot to answer for.

[gusan]

Sure it is part of the plan. Obama has his instruccions and will "deliever" as any other president.
Before Obama: wars, invation, "terrorists" for many years untill "people" just would not take so much more.

After Obama: "people" think the agenda has changed, people thinks things are going to change, some will of course..but the part where people are enslaved by fear will not..and that is the most important, because they want the chip ON us. Its all about the chip.

I just wonder how and when they are going to start talking about the solution to the economic crysis that is going on..how can we avoid this in the future? Well somehow the solution will involve banks-chips. And Obama is well informed and knows exactly what to make this to happen. They will do WHATEVER it is necessary, inkluding nuklear "deffence" and so on.
Just whait and see.

Sorry for my english, it is not my nativ languish.. ;-)

[tusme]

I'm over the moon nothing bad has happened yet, and I believed something would. I think its obvious Obama is one of them, endorsed by the clintons who have been researched extensively, the way he arrived on the scene from out of nowhere via the mainstream media which is controlled by the same people etc. Its not conspiracy, its common sense. The symbolism is used by them not us, and its everywhere, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the red and black is significant, but it would be foolish to take it as verbatim without more evidence.
Fantastic news that nothing bad happened and Martial Law wasn't made official, but it would be very silly to sit back and get the champagne out. They love to build us up just to knock us down - remember 7/7? the UK was on a major high the day before after winning the righht to host the olympics, then that high was swept away in one morning. thats how it works and what makes them tick.
Hi Shodan,

Actually, there is ample time for "martial law" to be implemented...remember, Bush is still president until Jan 20th 2009...when Obama is officially installed as president...

And I've heard some "vibrations" that something "big" is in the offing on the 19th/20th Jan...Colin Powell said so himself, strangely though, couldn't say what it was that was going to happen...!? :eek:

Cheers!

[skyline]

McCain wears yellow along with his wife when he accepted defeat

Masonic again

Yellow was to the ancients the symbol of light. Though unemphasized and seemingly almost unrecognised in Masonry yellow is, nevertheless, a true Masonic symbolic color since it symbolizes to the Mason that Great Thing to the finding of which his Masonic Search is devoted and to the source of which his Masonic pathway leads the Light of Truth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7710108.stm

[armoured_amazon]

At least 5 days out of 7 I wear red and black. My hair is red and black and I drive a red and black car. Sometimes, it's just a colour that someone likes. Obviously I can't speak for the presidential family, but I think it's more important to monitor their activities than their outfits. Whether the clothes are significant or not, what are they really telling us? Nothing we didn't already know!
:)

[damagedbrainn]

McCain wears yellow along with his wife when he accepted defeat

Masonic again

Yellow was to the ancients the symbol of light. Though unemphasized and seemingly almost unrecognised in Masonry yellow is, nevertheless, a true Masonic symbolic color since it symbolizes to the Mason that Great Thing to the finding of which his Masonic Search is devoted and to the source of which his Masonic pathway leads the Light of Truth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7710108.stm

Masons just own the whole rainbow, huh? No matter what color you wear, there's a masonic explanation for it.

[duckingdafta]

so, is it OK to talk about his coke taking blow jobs to old men in back of limo's now he has his own and let his kids know too... as the US seem to like voting in perverts and nonces (bush senior) it says a lot about the people and sheeple.. how many Americans on this bored know about voting scams and the fact it's a all selected, yet you still vote and still claim to believe David Icke.

All I can say is pfft.. the hypocrisy of the US.


People seem to forget what smack heads with power are like once the novelty sets in...

[astro zombie]

Yes it is!!

haha awesome, had no idea that guy was open-minded about Icke and all that stuff.

[cheesedanish]

haha awesome, had no idea that guy knew who David is.

For shizzle - he has David Icke on his radio show twice! And from the sounds
of it - He has read his books! Pretty awesome! If you search threads back
there are some of it.

[skyline]

Masons just own the whole rainbow, huh? No matter what color you wear, there's a masonic explanation for it.

All I am saying is that what they wear and when is significant.Logic would state if you were the new president for the democrats and your party colour is blue then wear blue but they wore the red and black,the whole family

I am not saying it bad to wear the colour as I do,but its important for what it represents to them?The hidden message

This is old stuff,and there is so much info in the biggest secret on symbolism

Its about connecting dots

[skyline]

At least 5 days out of 7 I wear red and black. My hair is red and black and I drive a red and black car. Sometimes, it's just a colour that someone likes. Obviously I can't speak for the presidential family, but I think it's more important to monitor their activities than their outfits. Whether the clothes are significant or not, what are they really telling us? Nothing we didn't already know!
:)

I think the dress code indicates their future activities amazon.I also wear red and black sometimes.I think what they are wearing says a lot

[damagedbrainn]

All I am saying is that what they wear and when is significant.Logic would state if you were the new president for the democrats and your party colour is blue then wear blue but they wore the red and black,the whole family

I am not saying it bad to wear the colour as I do,but its important for what it represents to them?The hidden message

This is old stuff,and there is so much info in the biggest secret on symbolism

Its about connecting dots

I've read The Biggest Secret, and I do not recall David Icke going on and on about the color of the clothes that politicians and celebrities wear.

[skyline]

I've read The Biggest Secret, and I do not recall David Icke going on and on about the color of the clothes that politicians and celebrities wear.

I ment the power of symbolism and how it is used as a language

[astro zombie]

Obama will be another JFK? Are you fucking kidding me!?

Even people in the truth movement are being fooled by this, i can't believe it. I recommend anybody that thinks Obama will bring change need to listen to Webster Tarpley's take on Obama, or better yet read his book on him - Obama: The Postmordern Coup.

I'm not saying i don't wish that Obama would actually bring change like a new JFK, i would just think that after researching this stuff for so long people would be a little more cynical and little more wise to this.

[eclecticspirit]

I ment the power of symbolism and how it is used as a language

Check out this page. You might find it informative.

http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/color2.htm

From the above:
Use caution when teaching about color symbolism. Symbolism of colors vary from culture to culture.

[armoured_amazon]

All I am saying is that what they wear and when is significant.Logic would state if you were the new president for the democrats and your party colour is blue then wear blue but they wore the red and black,the whole family

I am not saying it bad to wear the colour as I do,but its important for what it represents to them?The hidden message

This is old stuff,and there is so much info in the biggest secret on symbolism

Its about connecting dots

Blue is NOT flattering to the African complexion :D

Masons just own the whole rainbow, huh? No matter what color you wear, there's a masonic explanation for it.

LOL

[eclecticspirit]

blue is not flattering to the african complexion :d

lol :D

[armoured_amazon]

lol :D

True dat. Makes us look yellow. :D

[americana]

Interesting that people here are talking about the red and black color scheme of the Obamas' Election Night outfits.

Michelle's unusual red and black dress was by Narciso Rodriguez.

He is a designer who was first championed by Caroline Bessette Kennedy!

He designed Caroline's wedding gown.

Intriguing link, methinks.

[Anders Lindman]

The silicon chip inside her head
Gets switched to overload
And nobody’s gonna go to school today
She’s gonna make them stay at home
And daddy doesn’t understand it
He always said she was good as gold
And he can see no reasons
'Cos there are no reasons
What reason do you need to be show-ow-ow-ow-own?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er5uuCYi7q4

What reason? Answer: Problem-Reaction-Solution

I told you so!!! Check out the latest news about a shootout including AK-47 assault rifle:

"Nov. 6, 2008 -- Seven Austin school district campuses have been shut down this morning as police search a northeast-side neighborhood for two men involved in a shootout in which police killed another man, the Austin American-Statesman is reporting.

The shooting occurred early today. Police said the man who was killed had fired an AK-47 assault rifle at officers and was wearing body armor, according to the newspaper's Web site."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6098264.html

And what did Obama talk about in his victory speech? He talked about criminals armed with AK-47s!!! :eek:

[godspeed]

harvester of energy is the message ..

[xpleet]

Did anyone notice that "Yes we can" actually sounds like "Jesuits can" ? :D just came to my mind randomly.

[mynameis]

And what did Obama talk about in his victory speech? He talked about criminals armed with AK-47s!!! :eek:

If he did I missed it. I'll have to look for a transcript.

Well it's not in the NY Times transcript....It's not in the Chicago Tribune either...I think you have the dates confused?


NPR.org, August 28, 2008 · In these prepared remarks provided by the Obama campaign, Barack Obama accepted the Democratic Party's nomination as president "with profound gratitude and great humility." He laid out his economic, foreign and domestic policies before a roaring crowd at Invesco Field. The November election is the party's "chance to keep, in the 21st century, the American promise alive," said Obama. The speech as delivered may vary from the following text.

We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country. The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals. I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination. Passions fly on immigration, but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers. This too is part of America's promise — the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94087570

[tootrue]

They should add a IQ test to the signup here so stupid posts like this don't get created.

maybe there should be a test - checking some peoples agendas, here on the forum
Why dont you give an example of a good thread, then? :)

[Anders Lindman]

If he did I missed it. I'll have to look for a transcript.

Well it's not in the NY Times transcript....It's not in the Chicago Tribune either...I think you have the dates confused?



http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94087570

But it's right there in the quote you posted: "but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals"

Obama talks about banning automatic weapons for ordinary citizens as I see it. All that is needed are a few horrible shooting sprees involving AK-47, like (but worse) what happened today in Austin. That will create a problem that the media can trumpet all over America causing a reaction followed by a demand for a solution.

[mynameis]

But it's right there in the quote you posted: "but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals"

Obama talks about banning automatic weapons for ordinary citizens as I see it. All that is needed are a few horrible shooting sprees involving AK-47, like (but worse) what happened today in Austin. That will create a problem that the media can trumpet all over America causing a reaction followed by a demand for a solution.

Nope. Check the date.

[neville]

Seems like Mr Obama is already towing the Illuminati Line, Rahm Emmanuel as the Cheif of Staff!

His background and Parentage is clearly described on wikipaedia if you want a read, His dad was an Zionist! Maybe we should all just get in bed with Isreal.

You don't need a Crystal Ball to see how this is going to pan!

As a clue . keep looking to the appointments he makes and read up on the back grounds of these appointments.

It's not even a conspiracy theory any more. Its open and overt and in your face.

Neville

[Anders Lindman]

Nope. Check the date.

What ze fok! I must have listened to an old speech. It was the top featured video on Google Video yesterday that I watched. Darn! :o Still, what he said about AK-47s is still valid. That he plans to ban automatic weapons for ordinary U.S. citizens.

[tootrue]

Seems like Mr Obama is already towing the Illuminati Line, Rahm Emmanuel as the Cheif of Staff!

His background and Parentage is clearly described on wikipaedia if you want a read, His dad was an Zionist! Maybe we should all just get in bed with Isreal.

You don't need a Crystal Ball to see how this is going to pan!

As a clue . keep looking to the appointments he makes and read up on the back grounds of these appointments.

It's not even a conspiracy theory any more. Its open and overt and in your face.

Neville


also - the massive attack, launched on Israel, just as the election results were anounced

[auroral_iris]

They should add a IQ test to the signup here so stupid posts like this don't get created.


um do you READ ANYTHING that david has written about, every president is scum, obama was AT BOHEMIAN GROVE..all these people loving and putting all their faith in obama is going to make them that more susceptible to the inevitable doomsday that is upon us

PRESIDENTS ARENT ELECTED THEY ARE CHOSEN

Obama looks good on the surface, trust me he is more dangerous that way, the world will see change by the time in obamas years, were going to get fucked

[tattooverb]

[QUOTE=damagedbrainn;599980]Cutting to the chase:

Obama won the election, so he has to be part of the Conspiracy. The dogma of Conspirianity demands this. And that is all that it is: Dogma. It's not like you all sat down, reviewed a bunch of evidence, had an insightful discussion, and then came to the sober and rational conclusion that Obama is "one of them". He won the election, therefore he is one of "them"....you've reached this conclusion first and are now grasping for whatever half-assed "evidence" you can find. It would've been exactly the same regardless of who became President...even if it were Ron Paul.




unfortunately obama is related to bush which means he shares genes with the windsors or should i say saxe coburg gothe and you can follow it back quite a bit further if you wish

he is also cfr

shame really but that is what you get with a two party system

if one good thing comes of obama's election i hope it will be that more people feel they can peruse their dreams (too many people in america are stuck in a cycle of poverty and hopelessness)

[mynameis]

um do you READ ANYTHING that david has written about, every president is scum, obama was AT BOHEMIAN GROVE.

Bilderberg mate...Bilderberg....we are only guessing it was Bilderberg. He's never been to the grove to my knowledge. If you have proof I'd love to read it.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeN2K7UB-Gk

[bendelapidate]

It was very worrying to see how half a nation has been hypnotised into the sort of fervour and mass outpouring that one might have seen at the Nuremberg rallies with Hitler at the helm. Obama does give me the creeps - his smarmy, almost robotically animated posturing are like something out of a horror movie.

The elite were smart to field a black candidate on two counts. First off, they knew that it would be almost impossible for the neo-cons to pull any kind of stunt to steal the election, for if they had, it would have ignited a powder-keg of animosity in a significant proportion of the electorate. Secondly, they have divided the US into two distinct and dangerously polar extremes - just the kind of extremes necessary to foment the kind of unrest that ultimately leads to martial law.

I get a bad feeling about what lies ahead.

[damagedbrainn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeN2K7UB-Gk

....I particularly like the part where McCain supporters were building an ark because they believed the end of the world was coming. Reminds me of something.

[peachped]

I get....

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Viacom International Inc.

[damagedbrainn]

It was very worrying to see how half a nation has been hypnotised into the sort of fervour and mass outpouring that one might have seen at the Nuremberg rallies with Hitler at the helm. Obama does give me the creeps - his smarmy, almost robotically animated posturing are like something out of a horror movie.

The elite were smart to field a black candidate on two counts. First off, they knew that it would be almost impossible for the neo-cons to pull any kind of stunt to steal the election, for if they had, it would have ignited a powder-keg of animosity in a significant proportion of the electorate. Secondly, they have divided the US into two distinct and dangerously polar extremes - just the kind of extremes necessary to foment the kind of unrest that ultimately leads to martial law.

I get a bad feeling about what lies ahead.

The country's no more divided than it was in the last election....in fact, people were even angrier when Bush won a second term, but there was no unrest or martial law.

You probably already had these "bad feelings" before the election even occurred, and are just filtering and incorporating this event into what you already believed. If McCain had won, most of you would be here saying the exact same shit. It's all just predetermined dogma, with very little thought behind it all. You all may as well be reading from a script.

[tfx08]

Kids being brainwashed by Barack Obama supporters..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM

:mad::(

[bendelapidate]

The country's no more divided than it was in the last election....in fact, people were even angrier when Bush won a second term, but there was no unrest or martial law.

You probably already had these "bad feelings" before the election even occurred, and are just filtering and incorporating this event into what you already believed. If McCain had won, most of you would be here saying the exact same shit. It's all just predetermined dogma, with very little thought behind it all. You all may as well be reading from a script.

I think you've missed the point. I didn't incorporate anything into what I already believed - I am picking up on something that is profoundly disturbing.

We didn't see elated, tearful hordes running through the streets after the last election. This is different and it's very frightening to watch.

Captivating the hopes and fears of a huge section of the population to the extent that they appear zombie-like and hypnotised scares the shit out of a lot of outside observers watching it from afar.

As somebody has already commented, the last time we saw something like this was with the death of Diana. I've certainly never seen the sort of popular outpouring in the aftermath of any US election.

If McCain had "won" there would have been rioting, not elation. That's the point, Obama was placed in power by his Wall Street backers and now you are all going to see what he has planned for you. I hope you enjoy it.

[stemcg1983]

god damn people piss me off!

i am sick of reading people say 'obama is a dick etc etc ..... but its better than mcain'

fuck me, it was set up from the start who was gonna win, so whoever got picked it dont matter there still fukin puppets getting there strigs pulled.

i was nearly sick watching that shite the other night, fukin grown men & women crying like babies, pathetic .
in a way i feel sorry for them , i am just gladly i can see through the farce of it all, and i have been telling a lot of people my thoughts but it just goes straight over there heads.
when i have kids there getting schooled off me & being taught to have & open & free mind

[peachped]

Kids being brainwashed by Barack Obama supporters..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM

:mad::(

Sick bastards :mad:

[damagedbrainn]

I think you've missed the point. I didn't incorporate anything into what I already believed - I am picking up on something that is profoundly disturbing.

We didn't see elated, tearful hordes running through the streets after the last election. This is different and it's very frightening to watch.

Captivating the hopes and fears of a huge section of the population to the extent that they appear zombie-like and hypnotised scares the shit out of a lot of outside observers watching it from afar.

As somebody has already commented, the last time we saw something like this was with the death of Diana. I've certainly never seen the sort of popular outpouring in the aftermath of any US election.

If McCain had "won" there would have been rioting, not elation. That's the point, Obama was placed in power by his Wall Street backers and now you are all going to see what he has planned for you. I hope you enjoy it.

Yeah, instead everyone should be sitting around feeling sorry for themselves, crying out how we're all doomed. That would be so much better. I mean, we don't wanna become slaves to fear or anything.

[damagedbrainn]

god damn people piss me off!

i am sick of reading people say 'obama is a dick etc etc ..... but its better than mcain'

fuck me, it was set up from the start who was gonna win, so whoever got picked it dont matter there still fukin puppets getting there strigs pulled.

i was nearly sick watching that shite the other night, fukin grown men & women crying like babies, pathetic .
in a way i feel sorry for them , i am just gladly i can see through the farce of it all, and i have been telling a lot of people my thoughts but it just goes straight over there heads.
when i have kids there getting schooled off me & being taught to have & open & free mind

If it was all so obviously set up from the start, then why did conspiracy theorists do such a piss poor job of predicting the outcome?

[stemcg1983]

If it was all so obviously set up from the start, then why did conspiracy theorists do such a piss poor job of predicting the outcome?

what the fuck you on about, which 'conspiracy theorists' are you referring to?

are you saying most people thought mcain woruld win?

[655321]

Farrakhan on Obama: 'The Messiah is absolutely speaking'

... Oprah Calls Obama "The One".

[guuna]

If it was all so obviously set up from the start, then why did conspiracy theorists do such a piss poor job of predicting the outcome?

I suppose that depends which 'conspiracy' theorists you refer to. If i remember correctly there was an interview on The James Whale show with David Icke about 18 months ago, he then predicted that Hillary would likely be the next president. technically I suppose the right party won, and she could still ascend to office.

Alternative theories and viewpoints are what makes this site more interesting than those that just bang out the official version of events.

[damagedbrainn]

I suppose that depends which 'conspiracy' theorists you refer to. If i remember correctly there was an interview on The James Whale show with David Icke about 18 months ago, he then predicted that Hillary would likely be the next president. technically I suppose the right party won, and she could still ascend to office.

Alternative theories and viewpoints are what makes this site more interesting than those that just bang out the official version of events.

How could she "ascend" to office? Seriously, how?

[damagedbrainn]

I think you've missed the point. I didn't incorporate anything into what I already believed - I am picking up on something that is profoundly disturbing.

We didn't see elated, tearful hordes running through the streets after the last election. This is different and it's very frightening to watch.

Captivating the hopes and fears of a huge section of the population to the extent that they appear zombie-like and hypnotised scares the shit out of a lot of outside observers watching it from afar.

As somebody has already commented, the last time we saw something like this was with the death of Diana. I've certainly never seen the sort of popular outpouring in the aftermath of any US election.

If McCain had "won" there would have been rioting, not elation. That's the point, Obama was placed in power by his Wall Street backers and now you are all going to see what he has planned for you. I hope you enjoy it.

So if the goal is to declare nationwide Martial Law, and a McCain victory would have supposedly resulted in rioting (which it probably wouldn't have), then wouldn't have made more sense to push a McCain victory? Do they just like to take it slow or something?

Make up your minds already. Before most seemed to favor the above mentioned scenario....mass riots, martial law, NWO in full effect. Now that that outcome hasn't panned out....No, no, no; the real plan is to make everyone really happy so that they'll be complacent and stuff....that's like what we've been really saying all along for reals.

[guuna]

How could she "ascend" to office? Seriously, how?

I suppose that she is still highly placed in the upper ranks of the democratic party. it's still a possibility, albeit a remote one.

[damagedbrainn]

I suppose that she is still highly placed in the upper ranks of the democratic party. it's still a possibility, albeit a remote one.

It's not even a remote possibility anymore. She's neither the VP or the Speaker of the House. There's no path at all by which she could enter the Office of Presidency now.

[Anders Lindman]

I get....

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Viacom International Inc.

Darn! Silly Viacom. Here is another page which Viacom hasn't taken down.....yet:

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/11/obama-south-par.html?%3F