The Appreciation Thread

[synergy777]

I THOUGHT WE SHOULD GIVE THANKS TO ALL PEOPLE PAST, AND PRESENT WHO HAVE HELPED HUMANITY TO FIND TRUTH. I SUGGEST PEOPLE POST NAMES/LINKS/PDFS/MULTIMEDIA ON PEOPLE WHO THEY HAVE FOUND TO BE HELPFUL. NOT ONLY WILL THIS GIVE THESE PEOPLE THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE BUT ALSO LET OTHER PEOPLE SEE NEW LINKS ETC THAT THEY CAN LEARN FROM.

David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

Goro Adachi
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/

Stephen Knapp
http://www.stephen-knapp.com/

Godfrey Higgins
Godfrey Higgins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://members.tripod.com/~pc93/anacv1b8.htm

Gerald Massey
http://www.theosophical.ca/GnosticChristianity.htm

Flavius Josephus
Josephus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Alexander Hislop - The 2 Babylons
http://www.nisbett.com/comparative/catholic/2babylons/default.htm

Piers Compton - The Broken Cross
http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/brokencross/

Michael Bradley - The Iceman Inheritance
http://www.michaelbradley.info/

Giordano Bruno
http://www.phys.uu.nl/~huygens/cosmotheoros_en.htm

John Marco Allegro
http://www.johnallegro.org/main/

John Todd
http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/john_todd_and_the_illuminati.htm

Alan Watt
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

[december]

And why Jim Marrs is not listed?

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http://www.jimmarrs.com

[baron von lotsov]

And why Jim Marrs is not listed?

http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/rulebysecrecy.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Rule-Secrecy-Trilateral-Commission-Freemasons/dp/0060931841

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmarrsP.jpg

http://www.jimmarrs.com



Because he is not with the NWO agenda like one of the others I clicked on.

Synergy- you should be a little more discerning by now.

[eternal_spirit]

Because he is not with the NWO agenda like one of the others I clicked on.

Synergy- you should be a little more discerning by now.

Come on spill the beans who do you reckons with the New World Order Oh knowledgable one lol??

[winstonsmith]

Bill Hicks. 1961-1994.

Bill Hicks - Positive Drug Story - YouTube

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m69/harveylester84/BillHicksLight.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Bill_Hicks_image.jpg

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/writing/bill.jpg

[emma royds]

What about Bill Donahue?

www.hiddenmeanings.com

[winstonsmith]

Phil Schneider. 1947-1996.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9042499324182317197&q=phil+schneider (Very interesting)

"Phil Schneider was a geologist, structural engineer, and underground tunneling expert who participated in the construction of many deep underground cities and bases in North America and abroad for the government. In May of 1995, suffering from terminal cancer, he began giving talks in Las Vegas describing in detail the underground cities, the government's secret deal with negative aliens, high alien technology being employed by the government-including "corbamite" (element 140), mining on the moon, FEMA and martial law, the coming New World Order takeover, the Alien/NWO genocide agenda to reduce the earth's population by 85% before 2029, and a host of other stunning revelations.

Phil Schneider was an extraordinarily brave man who knew that he was going to be killed because of the information he was revealing to the American public."

http://www.ufodigest.com/images/phil1.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

John Sweeney Scientology Interviews

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[baron von lotsov]

Because he is not with the NWO agenda like one of the others I clicked on.

Synergy- you should be a little more discerning by now.

Come on spill the beans who do you reckons with the New World Order Oh knowledgable one lol??

It's time you used your head.

[eternal_spirit]

I do baron I've done lot's of research. How about you save me sometime and say which link you think is disinfo???

[limelady]

Wes Penn started this website some years ago....

http://www.illuminati-news.com

and it is now one of the most comprehensive data-base websites
for all things related to the NWO/Illuminati agenda.

[baron von lotsov]

I do baron I've done lot's of research. How about you save me sometime and say which link you think is disinfo???



Gnostic Christianity, that was it. Another great British Oxymoron if ever there was one and a bullshitter by the looks of things. Certainly it will do you zero good in understanding the nwo, reading a load of dribble like that. It reminds me of Tsarion, the creep amongst creeps. These kinds of people have been sent out to counter the quality stuff which is out there and confuse and brainwash you.

Dr john Coleman is about the best I can recommend but there are a few others, none of which appear on the list.

[king]

Gnostic Christianity, that was it. Another great British Oxymoron if ever there was one and a bullshitter by the looks of things. Certainly it will do you zero good in understanding the nwo, reading a load of dribble like that. It reminds me of Tsarion, the creep amongst creeps. These kinds of people have been sent out to counter the quality stuff which is out there and confuse and brainwash you.

Dr john Coleman is about the best I can recommend but there are a few others, none of which appear on the list.

that is right Baron,

Yes, Dr. Coleman, Jim Marrs, Alan Watt and few others are definitely trying very hard to share the most important information for today.

on other side, just look as who is promoted heavily,
pay attention who is pushing hinduism, mayan calendar/2012, U.F.O.s, Masonic New Age crap, who tries to prove/disprove what happened thousands of years ago that should not be our major concern now.

then look who is attacking monotheistic religions, making them responsible for all ills while promoting New Age/Hinduism/Gaia worship.

pay attention who is having trouble publishing the information (books, DVDs) and who seem to have enormous backing and resources.

then, follow the rats to their nest, because those who had sold out are simply dirty rats and there is always a nest where the mastermind rat(s) reside.
And, those mastermind rats are very clever, they mix the "obsolete" truth (information that will be disclosed anyways because old system has to go) and because that gives lots of credibility to the rest that they have to say -- they insert clever lies that all lead towards same agenda.

for example; "exposing" Federal Reserve scam, Fiat Money System and such is really not a secret anymore, because PTBs want to get rid of that system and introduce cashless society. That is also why Masons and Illuminati and Money System and all the rest systems that are no longer needed are being "exposed" on MSM like Discovery and Fox (propaganda) channels.

and, if you want to know if someone is true and honest researcher with a soul -- listen to your intuition, that link with something lot greater, something that knows all.

and, if you have not developed that ability -- then pay attention who talks about real threats (chemtrails, food poisons, vaccines, HAARP, ELF, mid numbing drugs, forms of brainwashing) and who is giving you fascination (bread and circuses)

in addition, pay attention to offered solutions, do they empower you, or do they send you on while geese chase, or do those solutions even apply to NOW or are those just a "FASCINATING" distraction and ESCAPE from reality.


because, the truth is seldom FASCINATING, the truth is more often than not very BRUTAL. It takes lots of guts to look the truth in the eyes, because she will give you an incredible workout. You will not be the same, but chances are you will be more courageous and you will grow a backbone.

yes, pay attention to who pushes certain subjects like tarot, Crowley, occult, drugs and rest that are either leading you to spin your wheels in place indefinitely, to arrest your spiritual and mental development by fascination and/or escapism.


main point is -- do not chase Space Aliens while your freedoms are being taken away and while your food, air and water is being poisoned, your children injected with deadly viruses and your future being changed permanently. Because you chased space aliens.

Space Aliens do not matter, what matters is for you to become
a trully awakened being, to learn not to fall for dirty tricks, to grow up spiritually, to do the right thing, and do it while you can.


it is only logical that many (most?) major players in alternative media
are simply put there to immobilize you by fucking with your mind.
just like they do on Fox or BBC or other MSM channels, they do the same to conspiracy researchers, only on a different level.
that is why same methods, from breads and circuses to control by fear
are used in "Alternative Media" as much as in MSM.
Unfortunately, overwhelming majority of conspiracy researchers fall for this trick. I must admit -- I was one of them, but i learned from my own mistakes.


do not think for a moment that those who ruled the world for many millenia would overlook such a powerful tool as Internet, that they would just somehow totally overlook that one.

"oppps.. darn...shit... we did not see how they can use internet against us!"
:lol:
yeah, right

http://www.meaus.com/DARPA-logo.JPEG

the reason why they gave us internet should be obvious by now.

but, just like with any tool -- we can use it for our for benefit of for our demise.
we can always say "no" to Total Information Network
http://www.aubreyturner.org/imgs/hell_no_tia_small.jpg

but only if we concentrate on things that matter

someone said" "be wise as serpent"
I think that if we are to trully become free -- we need to learn some wisdom.
we need to concentrate on things that matter, on NOW, things that affect our near and our far future.

we had enough of bread and circuses and nothing changed because of that

[synergy777]

baron thanks for your links, very helpful. i did not post every link i could think of, as i wanted to give other people a chance to post/share.as for discernemnt, discernment is relative i have found. its often controlled by eurocentric memes. for example, yashuah being brown and not white(cesare borgia). the complete ignornace of the vedic heritage, when ironically europes greatest minds all praised it, saw its relevance to them, and yet others from europe don't. you can't exalt these great minds and use them as evidence of europes intellectual superiority and yet not not heed what they say, thats hypocritical, and funny. einstein, voltaire, oppenheimer all spoke of the vedic heritage, but hey you are gods, you know better, lol. see i realise the brutal truth, so i realise their can be no unity with cowards, judas's, wolves in sheeps clothing. i am not here to get popularity votes, i am here for the truth, opinions are worthless, facts matter. facts such as numbers, science, spiritual knowledge, mathematics, lingusitics, and the dreaded genetics. so keep waving your italian templar falg, keep propping up your german queen and keep serving the nwo. from a people who are ignorant of their own history, hate their french/german ancestors, time to smell the coffee brother. all people have done evil all organised religions have been corrupted, let he who is free from sin, cast the first stone.

however to the people who have posted and been constructive, thank you, at least you see beyond the illusion. 1 love, peace,

Henry Makow
http://www.savethemales.ca/

Kronia group
http://www.kronia.com/home.html

Phillip Taylor kramer
philip taylor kramer - Google Search

British Isarel
british israel - Google Search

[synergy777]

PNAC
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

CFR
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/

[synergy777]

No Offence To This New Age Stuff, Buts It Old Indian Stuff, Just Remarketed For You Birkenstock Crowds, Religion Is Business, India's Number 1 Export. But Have Any Of You Objectively Researched The Three A-braham-ic Religions. If You Did This Truthfully, You Would Find Judaism Was Corrupted By The Talmud. This Was Corrected By Yashuah (how Dare You Call Him Jesus, Change His Appearence And Message), Keep Following Your Mystery School, Sol Invictus Abomination. After Yashuah's Message Was Corrupted By The Church, Mohammed Came. Churchanity Was What, Written How Long After Yahsuah, What Language, How Many Translations, How Many Councils, Are You Really Kjv Freaks, Ignorance To Corruption Is Deadly. Islam Is The Last Chapter Of The Faith You Falsly Profess To Follow, The People Of The Book Are Jews, Christians, Muslims. You Three Are So Arrogant, You Fail To Realise You Are The Same. Islam Was Then Corrupted By Hadiths, Sunnahs, Sunni/wahabbis.

Hinduism Was The Worlds Frist Religion, This Has Been Corrupted. But If You Analyse And Realise The Corruptions, These Corruptions Are The Same Used By The Three A-braham-ic Religions. Trimurti =trinity, Solar God/halo, Rosary Beads, Caste/class/colour System, Rituals.all These Years In This Area, And What Have People Really Done. You Have Followed Doctrines That Support Your Beliefs And Papered Over The Cracks. A House Built On Sand, Will Fall.

The Only Religion Is Truth. The Only Message Is Love.

Buddha, Krishna, Yashuah Mohammed All Said This, They Were From The Creator. You, Have Been Pompous Pathetic Fools, Who Corrupted The Message For Imperial Gains. The Sword That You Expect Yashuah To Carry, Is The Sword Of Truth, Words, To Smite The Nations.

How do like those apples, lol
One Love, Peace

[eternal_spirit]

Quote Synergy777 Buddha, Krishna, Yashuah Mohammed All Said This, They Were From The Creator. You, Have Been Pompous Pathetic Fools, Who Corrupted The Message For Imperial Gains. The Sword That You Expect Yashuah To Carry, Is The Sword Of Truth, Words, To Smite The Nations.

Look most of us westerners don't fall for this crappy religion bullshit ok! You can bang on about how the Hindu relgion is the truth but I Don't believe this.

The Hindu caste system is sick. racist and prejudice and based on faith not facts about reincarnation and karma. The priesthood at the top preach and live off the people below them. Krishna became the Hare Krishna movement to mention one sick cult of lies they pretend they are poor but at the top as usual they are living lives of luxury like many Eastern Gurus...... at the expense of those below just as the illuminati(Iluminated means enlightened as taught in Hinduism Buddhism etc) You can keep you're Eastern mystics in India we've had enough if their false spirituality and lies.

Besides that, you made some good valid points in you're post much of what I believe myself to be true.

We don't need books of God(written by men) to show us how to love one another or to connect to some outside force.

[tru3]

The Only Religion Is Truth. The Only Message Is Love.

Buddha, Krishna, Yashuah Mohammed All Said This, They Were From The Creator. You, Have Been Pompous Pathetic Fools, Who Corrupted The Message For Imperial Gains. The Sword That You Expect Yashuah To Carry, Is The Sword Of Truth, Words, To Smite The Nations.

How do like those apples, lol

pretty tasty, synergy. nice thread, thanks! :)

joseph campbell and the power of myth:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6312400129079706710&q=joseph+campbell+and+the+power+of+myth&hl=en

lay aside the american jingoism in the intro and the ode to cathedreals at the end, and feel into what he's saying.

part 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3507614538091642471&q=joseph+campbell+and+the+power+of+myth&hl=en

The Hindu caste system is sick. racist and prejudice and based on faith not facts about reincarnation and karma. The priesthood at the top preach and live off the people below them. Krishna became the Hare Krishna movement to mention one sick cult of lies they pretend they are poor but at the top as usual they are living lives of luxury like many Eastern Gurus...... at the expense of those below just as the illuminati(Iluminated means enlightened as taught in Hinduism Buddhism etc) You can keep you're Eastern mystics in India we've had enough if their false spirituality and lies.

i think he said that, e.s.

Hinduism Was The Worlds Frist Religion, This Has Been Corrupted. But If You Analyse And Realise The Corruptions, These Corruptions Are The Same Used By The Three A-braham-ic Religions. Trimurti =trinity, Solar God/halo, Rosary Beads, Caste/class/colour System, Rituals.all These Years In This Area, And What Have People Really Done. You Have Followed Doctrines That Support Your Beliefs And Papered Over The Cracks. A House Built On Sand, Will Fall.

[synergy777]

i don't believe in modern day corrupt hinduism, if i did i wouldn't detest the caste system. a system which i am a good level, a levrl where i could easily enjoy the benefits of it. a system which is satanic,elitest, self exalting like lucifer. as the creator created us all, we are all equal. its man own invention for power that created this, caste/colour/class are all linked and spawned from this.

i wouldn't expose its corruptions eg rituals, halos, trimurti etc, what i am doing is showing the corruptions in hindusim were the first set of corruptions. they later moved this virus into all other religions. patterns, correlations, critical thought. has tavistock moulded you? you see its the cultural aspect of hinduism which prevents your programming from seeing the truth. westerner, i am a westerner, a brown westerner. you base things on colour, industrial might, empire false doctrines from rome, greece/rome civilised you, gave you civilisation/religion. when did christianity start in europe, tell me? who gave knowledge to the greeks/romans, where did they get their knowledge from, egypt, persia, india. translating don't make you the author, neither does copy and pasting, lol


see argue with me on vedic hsitory, linguistics, correlations in religions, genetics, lets see how far you get? even in 325 ad, you were still editing, renaissance was re-marketing/rebranding.

what spiritual knowledge do you use, wheres it from?

[synergy777]

tru3, nice 1 bro, glad you underlined the point, lol

es, "we don't need eastern," no but you took our religions, lands and are still at it. bugger off, leave australia, america, palestine, africa etc my avatar had the right idea, lol.

this ourtside force, lol it in you, its your soul.

http://www.thedyinggod.com/

History as propaganda

It is commonly understood that Propaganda is usually employed to garner citzens' support for current political objectives. But, these need to be placed in the proper context, in order to make them appear justified within the greater scheme of things. This fact has long been recognized, and therefore, since the eighteenth century, there has been a concerted effort to consolidate the media, in order to ensure a perception of reality, that was comensurate with the objectives of the powers that be.

Part of this agenda has been the re-writing of history, to nuture patriotic devotion to the collective consisting of the nations of Europe and America as "Western Civilization", to be pitted in opposition with some specific "other". In our case, the "East".


The wholesale reorganization of history was undertaken at the beginning of the nineteenth century by the leading Robber Barrons. After the Civil War, the US government handed over huge tracks of land to specific individuals, who then used that land as colateral to build the railroads. The leading Robber Barrons were John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnigie, who in turn were acting on behalf of the powerful Rothischilds in London.

Apparently, there is some controversy as to whether or not these capitalists should be referred to instead as "captains of industry", which excuses their exploitive methods, by claiming that they built up the industry of the US, and that towards the end of their careers, committed their funds increasingly to charitable foundations. What is not explained, however, is that these "charitable" foundations were founded to advance their objectives, and forge the nation in the direction they chose.

With the collosal wealth they amassed in the decades prior to World War I, two boards of trustees were created, the General Education Fund (GEB), by Rockefeller, and the Carnigie Endownment for Advanced Education (CFAT). Through a massive infusion of funds, they entirely reorganized the American university system, dismissing undesirable professors, and erecting facilities to concentrate on research into the physical and social sciences. Scientific research has been largely exploited to build up the military-industrial-complex, while social science has served to study human behavior, with the aim of discovering methods of coercion, and to discern and address subversive tendencies.


As noted by McIlhanny, in The Tax-Exempt Foundations, as discovered in minutes from their meetings, these foundations asked themselves the following: "is there any means known to man more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people?" They could not find one, and so helped to precipitate WWI. Following the Great War, however, recognizing the need to maintain the control they had achieved over the "diplomatic machinery" of the US , the foundations recognized "they must control education".

Together, as William McIlhany described, the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations "decided the key to it is the teaching of American history and they must change that. So they then approached the most prominent of what we might call American historians at that time with the idea of getting them to alter the manner in which they presented the subject." they recognized the success of their efforts, in not only consolidating their control over higher education, but over the government as well, and decided that if they were to maintain such control, that it would be necessary to re-write history.

Primarily, the foundations strategy was to use the guise of the US Board of Education, by fronting as "advisers". These produced several teacher's leaflefts, which were distributed to educators during WWI. The first of these leaflets carefully recommended that outright lies or false information was a "mistaken view of patriotic duty", that was likely to be counterproductive in the long run. The recommendations went on to provide detailed suggestions on what to teach, and how to teach history "properly". Because,

...history, properly studied or taught, is constantly reminding the individual of the larger life of the community... This common life and the ideals which guide it have been built up through the sacrifice of individuals in the past, and it is only by such sacrifices in the present that this generation can do its part in the continuing life of the local community, the State, and the Nation.

The Myth of Western Civilization

And as such, the myth of "Western Civilization" was born. Through their influence, the entire American educational system was coordinated to serve a centralized command, to further specific areas of scientific research, and to inculcate a proper "interpretation" of history. In Universities and the Capitalist State, Clyde Barrow commented that:

The full-scale rewriting of history under state supervision not only facilitated a short-term justification of American participation in the war, but also helped to institutionalize a much broader and more permanent ideological conception of the United States in the social sciences and humanities.

Initially, the notion of "Western Civilization" was created to foster a sense of identity among the Allied Powers, as members of a single civilization, pitted against the East, in the case of World War I, Germany. However, the development of this idea can be dated back to the early nineteenth century, with Hegel. As demonstrated by Glenn Magee, in Hegel and the Hermetic tradition, Hegel's ideas were based on the occult. Borrowing from the Jewish Kabbalah, he developed the idea of history as progress of God coming to know himself through the intellectual evolution of man. In Hegel's terms, this mean man's evolution towards what he called "freedom". This "freedom" was when man discovered that he is God.


This idea was in the service of secret societies, most notably the Illuminati, whose goal was the eradication of Christianity, and its replacement with secular rule. Therefore, "liberty", represented "freedom" from religion. A traditional interpretation of history according to the Bible was replaced by a version that proposed that humanity has been evolving towards secularism. Prior to Hegel, it was common for European historians to acknowledge the persistent influnce of the East, but Hegel de-emphasized its contribution, in favour of celebrating the exclusive "genius" of the Greeks. As such, to foster sympathy for their objectives among the common citizenry, it was argued that secularism began among the Greeks, who were the first to question the validity of myth, and that the West steadily progressed away from "superstition". The first great advances were with the Renaissance, which developed the philosophy of "Humanism", which culminated in the triumph of the American and French revolutions, and the creation of "democracy".

Powered by groups.yahoo.com However, when we make a closer examination of the so-called history of "Western civilization", we discover that the modern myth that has been created is an attempt to show the advancement of the occult philosophy of these secret socities. Though its origin is placed far back in time, on the lost continent of Atlantis, and prior to the Flood, in reality, this tradition begins in Babylon, in the sixth century BC. In ancient times with the worship of a dying-god, whose death and resurrection were celebrated annually, but in the sixth century, his worship was combined with Jewish mystical ideas, and Babylonian astrology and magic, to create what is known today as the Kabbalah. It is by following the development of the Kabbalah through history that we arrive as the ...

...hidden history of Western Civilization

"He who controls the past, controls the future" George Orwell.


see we should celebrate our differences and share our common heritage. we are one race, with many different varieties, we should celebrate our diversity.whetehr you like your asiatic heritage, let your ego deal with it. genetics do they lie, linguistics do they lie, ask yourself, who benefits from this false divide and rule?

as i am eager to learn, please es, tell me of your beliefs/views, their origins etc, i am intrigued. is it aryan race from mars, atlantis, what? anything than being related to those darkies, lol when you tan, do you become sub human, lol see this retarded level of thinking has to be taught, when you are born, a child, you see everyone as people.all this crap they indoctrinate you with starts at school, family etc. don't let arrogance/ignorance give you the same fate as dinosaurs, evolve, grow, .

[baron von lotsov]

that is right Baron,

Yes, Dr. Coleman, Jim Marrs, Alan Watt and few others are definitely trying very hard to share the most important information for today.

on other side, just look as who is promoted heavily,
pay attention who is pushing hinduism, mayan calendar/2012, U.F.O.s, Masonic New Age crap, who tries to prove/disprove what happened thousands of years ago that should not be our major concern now.

then look who is attacking monotheistic religions, making them responsible for all ills while promoting New Age/Hinduism/Gaia worship.

pay attention who is having trouble publishing the information (books, DVDs) and who seem to have enormous backing and resources.

then, follow the rats to their nest, because those who had sold out are simply dirty rats and there is always a nest where the mastermind rat(s) reside.
And, those mastermind rats are very clever, they mix the "obsolete" truth (information that will be disclosed anyways because old system has to go) and because that gives lots of credibility to the rest that they have to say -- they insert clever lies that all lead towards same agenda.

for example; "exposing" Federal Reserve scam, Fiat Money System and such is really not a secret anymore, because PTBs want to get rid of that system and introduce cashless society. That is also why Masons and Illuminati and Money System and all the rest systems that are no longer needed are being "exposed" on MSM like Discovery and Fox (propaganda) channels.

and, if you want to know if someone is true and honest researcher with a soul -- listen to your intuition, that link with something lot greater, something that knows all.

and, if you have not developed that ability -- then pay attention who talks about real threats (chemtrails, food poisons, vaccines, HAARP, ELF, mid numbing drugs, forms of brainwashing) and who is giving you fascination (bread and circuses)

in addition, pay attention to offered solutions, do they empower you, or do they send you on while geese chase, or do those solutions even apply to NOW or are those just a "FASCINATING" distraction and ESCAPE from reality.


because, the truth is seldom FASCINATING, the truth is more often than not very BRUTAL. It takes lots of guts to look the truth in the eyes, because she will give you an incredible workout. You will not be the same, but chances are you will be more courageous and you will grow a backbone.

yes, pay attention to who pushes certain subjects like tarot, Crowley, occult, drugs and rest that are either leading you to spin your wheels in place indefinitely, to arrest your spiritual and mental development by fascination and/or escapism.


main point is -- do not chase Space Aliens while your freedoms are being taken away and while your food, air and water is being poisoned, your children injected with deadly viruses and your future being changed permanently. Because you chased space aliens.

Space Aliens do not matter, what matters is for you to become
a trully awakened being, to learn not to fall for dirty tricks, to grow up spiritually, to do the right thing, and do it while you can.


it is only logical that many (most?) major players in alternative media
are simply put there to immobilize you by fucking with your mind.
just like they do on Fox or BBC or other MSM channels, they do the same to conspiracy researchers, only on a different level.
that is why same methods, from breads and circuses to control by fear
are used in "Alternative Media" as much as in MSM.
Unfortunately, overwhelming majority of conspiracy researchers fall for this trick. I must admit -- I was one of them, but i learned from my own mistakes.


do not think for a moment that those who ruled the world for many millenia would overlook such a powerful tool as Internet, that they would just somehow totally overlook that one.

"oppps.. darn...shit... we did not see how they can use internet against us!"
:lol:
yeah, right

http://www.meaus.com/DARPA-logo.JPEG

the reason why they gave us internet should be obvious by now.

but, just like with any tool -- we can use it for our for benefit of for our demise.
we can always say "no" to Total Information Network
http://www.aubreyturner.org/imgs/hell_no_tia_small.jpg

but only if we concentrate on things that matter

someone said" "be wise as serpent"
I think that if we are to trully become free -- we need to learn some wisdom.
we need to concentrate on things that matter, on NOW, things that affect our near and our far future.

we had enough of bread and circuses and nothing changed because of that

Ah sanity at last!

I was really beginning to worry about this forum but its nice to see not everyone has fallen for it. Good luck in your research.

[synergy777]

oh they can manipulate weather, health, intelligence, cook up reports, etc but religous texts are immune, baron, are you a tavistock shareholder, lol

[king]

You can bang on about how the Hindu relgion is the truth but I Don't believe this.
neither do i
and what about snake worshiping?
c-mon people, get real!
http://www.haddonfield.k12.nj.us/hmhs/academics/english/shiva.2.jpg
oh my... she looks so.... dead!

and people worship that, a dead snake charmer that they consider goddess?
"true religion" ... or "original religion"

where did i hear that before?


The Hindu caste system is sick. racist and prejudice and based on faith not facts about reincarnation and karma.

absolutely.
there are people who are considered "untouchables" that is
your caste/religion tells you that you should not touch them, even if they are dying.
some religion, huh?

The priesthood at the top preach and live off the people below them. Krishna became the Hare Krishna movement to mention one sick cult of lies they pretend they are poor but at the top as usual they are living lives of luxury like many Eastern Gurus...... at the expense of those below just as the illuminati(Iluminated means enlightened as taught in Hinduism Buddhism etc) You can keep you're Eastern mystics in India we've had enough if their false spirituality and lies.

exactly!
and that is why illuminati love that caste system, because
what is better religion for them than that religion that will make them "gods" in human form?!
I cannot believe how many westerners are falling for that one and accepting NA crap that is all based on hinduism
with its caste system.



We don't need books of God(written by men) to show us how to love one another or to connect to some outside force.


exactly, because that "outside force" that many are chasing is already within each of us.
it is just matter of shinning some light on it, and love is that light.

[eternal_spirit]

Quote the Baron Ah sanity at last!

I was really beginning to worry about this forum but its nice to see not everyone has fallen for it. Good luck in your research.


There are more of us lol, takes endurance and being true to yourself to see through all the charades. Appreciation to king for summing up what I've believed for sometime now.

[john white]

If its Religion its part of "The Matrix": I can't see what's hard about that, this creation is Void given Form and to do that, there must be structure

That doesnt make Religion Evil, and it doesnt mean Religion must be feared: even if it does have Snakes: Religion is not the problem: its man's use of Religion. That doesnt make Religion the solution either: it just is, and it means what we invest in it

I had a discussion with an Anglican Priest recently, and he told me a very wise thing:

There is the little book and the big book to guide us into harmony with the creator

The little book is scripture (all scripture, any scripture): the big book is the world.

I understood that to mean:

We can use one, the other, both or neither

Its the journey that's important, the journey to close the gap between ourselves and our maker

And I'd say its not a journey of moving: its a journey of expanding

[oceanwave]

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7002/p60a1bs3.jpg

[tru3]

tru3, nice 1 bro, glad you underlined the point, lol

es, "we don't need eastern," no but you took our religions, lands and are still at it. bugger off, leave australia, america, palestine, africa etc my avatar had the right idea, lol.

this ourtside force, lol it in you, its your soul.

clarity is important. :)

by 'you', i assume you mean promulgators of western religion (which, in my mind, the jesuits are the source of this control meme). ever notice that in all the thousands of years of religious persecution, i can't seem to recall one time when there were pogroms against catholics, or ethnic cleansing against catholics. eastern orthodox, yes, but catholic? somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm drawing a blank. :o

so, yes, it's true, some hard rain's gonna fall for those of us born and bred in the western wilderness.

this is a land of peace, love, justice, but no mercy.
-bruce springsteen

"Ozymandias"
by: Percy Bysshe Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear --
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.'

the east has remnants of tribal beliefs to deal with, patriarchial issues as well. what matters the source, when the results are poisoning us today, when nearly every nation, every ethnic group, finds itself in ideological and political and economic conflict with another? what do we do about it, today?

each of us, regardless of background and origin, have more in common with each other than with all the tycoons, managers, supervisors, grand viziers, prophets, poobahs, pols, pedants, presidents, pundits, gurus, rishis, sages, saints, experts, celebs that join the cfr, and other general riff-raff authority figures people look up to. this cult of personality that the human race is prone to simply must end.

let's work from common ground. :)

as for the soul, the soul has its own glamour that is groomed, most likely even harvested, just as the rest of the human energy field. but that's another thread entirely. ;)