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onlycrazy
03-11-2008, 12:04 AM
Children in care drugged
If this isnt child abuse I dont know what is....


Caroline Overington | November 03, 2008

ONE in four children who have been removed from the care of their parents and placed in foster homes are being heavily medicated to control their emotions and behaviour.

Its called grieving for their lost families...

And 50 per cent of children under 12 who live in residential care - where children live in small groups under the supervision of social workers - are taking a psychotropic medication.

According to the annual report of the NSW Children's Guardian, 44 per cent of Aboriginal children in residential care are also medicated on drugs such as Ritalin, Strattera and Zoloft.

By comparison, the proportion of children nationwide on psychotropic medication is less than 2 per cent.

The president of the NSW Foster Care Association, Denise Crisp, said it was a nationwide problem.

"We call it the chemical straitjacket," she said. "The problem is if a foster carer has four kids and they have all got behavioural problems, how are you going to control them?

"The only way to do it is with drugs.

"A majority of foster carers, no matter where they are, want to do things another way but the cost involved for things like behavioural therapy, psychotherapy, music, arts and sport ... you'd have quite a few million-dollar kids."

Psychotropic drugs work on the central nervous system to alter emotion and behaviour.

Children's Guardian Kerryn Boland said yesterday that the figures were not surprising. "It's something we've been seeing for several years," she said.

But Freda Briggs, emeritus professor of child development at the University of South Australia, said: "It's horrendous. Children in foster care are that much more likely than children in the community to be medicated.

"The foster carers always say that it's so difficult to get therapy for the children in their care. They need counselling and support and the carers are told you have to wait a year to get an appointment, so it's not surprising they turn to medication.

"The foster children can be extremely disturbed, setting fire to the home, smashing the TV, knocking holes in walls."

National Foster Care Association president Bev Orr, based in Canberra, said the numbers of medicated children would be higher in foster care "and it may be that some were on medication before they went into care".

"Then you've got families that have disintegrated, or the parents haven't been coping, and the children have behavioural issues," she said. "I'm not surprised (by the high number of foster children on drugs), but I am saddened."

Ms Boland said medication was normally part of a "behaviour management plan" for NSW's 25,000 foster children.

She said many of the children in care had "significant behavioural problems, so they may have been on some kind of medication before they came into care, although that kind of detail was not included in the audit".

Ms Crisp believed the proportion could be higher, saying: "I'd say 40 per cent of them are on some kind of medication.

"Most are put on it when they come into care. They come into care damaged and distraught because of what might have happened to them in the home, and so they go on medication. Going into care is scary, so they act out even more."

Ms Crisp said the caseworkers often decided whether a child should be on, or stay on, medication.

"I'm dead set against (the use of drugs). I don't believe they work in a long term. They just sedate them. But they make it easier for the carers, and the caseworker.

"It makes their lives easier. What they (the children) need is intensive services and behavioural therapies, but that's not as cheap."

The high number of children being medicated would seem to be at odds with the guardian's own guidelines for "behaviour management" of children in state care, as set out in clause 30 of the Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Regulation 2000.

The policy bans any form of corporal punishment, or any punishment that takes the form of immobilisation, force-feeding or depriving of food, or any punishment that is intended to humiliate or frighten a child or young person.

It also places "restrictions on any medical treatment that involves the administration of a psychotropic drug for the purpose of controlling behaviour".

The annual report said proper consent had been given in the cases of only seven in 10 children who were receiving medication. "This did not reach the compliance threshold," the report said.

"More importantly, consent was significantly less likely for children under 12 in residential care (44 per cent) and Aboriginal children."

According to the report, children in residential care - that is, those who live in group homes - are three times more likely than those in foster care to have "current consents for psychotropic medication".

Under current legislation, those agencies that provide out-of-home care are required to have a "psychotropic drugs policy statement".

The use of psychotropic drugs by children is higher in NSW than in other states, with 15,466 boys and 3872 girls on medication for ADHD.

I cannot help but feel so desperate for these children, what chance do they have when as soon as they show a glimmer of humanity and emotion they are shoved on drugs to control their behaviour....

armoured_amazon
03-11-2008, 12:21 AM
And that's why more foster carers are needed so current ones aren't overstretched AND greedy ones don't take on more kids than they can handle.

lizzy
03-11-2008, 12:35 AM
Big Pharma is the most evil corruption....schools are used for peddling their brain deading shite, more and more kids diagnosed (the schools get more financial support , equal to be # diagnosed)...and handout the poisons,if the parent refuses , the child can be taken into 'care'.......

tracker
03-11-2008, 12:51 AM
Big Pharma is the most evil corruption....schools are used for peddling their brain deading shite, more and more kids diagnosed (the schools get more financial support , equal to be # diagnosed)...and handout the poisons,if the parent refuses , the child can be taken into 'care'.......

thats how it goes , create more names for natural greiving processes , create more names for different signs of depresion ( maybe because children are being traumatized by being at school or in care ) and wayhay , more drugs more drugs more drugs , more departments made on these concepts , more specialists and bla bla bla


why ?

because lets face it , they need to make children sick to justify why they have a job in the 1st place .
why do you think they never consentrate on things like bullies ay school ?
and always focus on a victim ?
because with out these bullies etc , how would these sickos have a job looking after a victim with out a victim in the 1st place ?

hence

to see all the truth in this just adopt 3 natural scientific truths .

we are what we do.
action speeks louder than words.
all truth is its own evidence !


:cool:

lizzy
03-11-2008, 02:06 AM
tracker...
why do you think they never consentrate on things like bullies ay school ?
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you are so right and that never crossed my mind....;)

onlycrazy
26-11-2008, 11:28 PM
points taken regarding pharma and bullies....

Also with regards 90,000 social workers who remove 40,000 children.
One wonders where they would be if they had to prove abuse had taken
place rather than have the child removed on hearsay, or their own crystal ball
mentality that states abuse is likely to occur sometime in the future.
Perhaps, if parents were not demonised by the care industry as dangerous
abusers in the secret courts their would be no need for such a high number
of social workers.
Dont read me wrong there are genuine instances of abuse out their, but they
are far fewer than the media would have people believe. After all the care industry and court officials alike still need their pockets lining by the taxpayers of this country.

griswald
27-11-2008, 01:34 AM
The measure of any rational, moral thinking society is surely how we treat our children, sick people, elderly people, and physically and emotionally challenged members of society.

And by any yard stick human beings have failed miserably. Its becoming more evident that each and every one of us is equally guilty by allowing this to happen with out protest.

Hopefully the balance will soon tip the other way

griswald

astrochicken
27-11-2008, 08:33 AM
And that's why more foster carers are needed so current ones aren't overstretched AND greedy ones don't take on more kids than they can handle.


True BUT- only those foster parents that sign on the dotted line and promise to promote homosexual promiscuity.

hagbard_celine
27-11-2008, 11:50 AM
That Brian Gerrish inteview shook me up!:mad::eek::(

I nearly had my own daughter taken into care two years ago!

onlycrazy
27-11-2008, 04:46 PM
That Brian Gerrish inteview shook me up!:mad::eek::(

I nearly had my own daughter taken into care two years ago!

me too hagbard , it was about two years ago that two social workers and 5 police officers banged on my door to remove my son from me...

Our crime ? Mine was to ask for help from the social services as my son 9 at the time had started school refusing (had special needs that the school didnt address) The LEA were threatening legal action if I didnt get him in school and the SS threatened to put him on the child protection register.

I tried my best but what no-one understood was that my son was refusing through fear not rebelion. We got to the point were my son was waking up feeling sick, he would sob his way through putting his uniform on, but was that upset he was having difficulty breathing, then he started to vomit.

I told all concerned of what had taken place, the SS said we dont care you must get him in school. At that point something clicked, I was shocked at their blahtent disregard for his emotional welbeing. I de-registered him from school with a view to teaching him myself. The SS claimed I was purposely isolating him from his peers...he was put on the register.

The judge granted an interim care order, were he had to go and live with foster parents, the day the foster carer came to pick him up he was frozen with fear. I had been told I must encourage my son to go with them or I would not see him again. He wouldnt go....
Hence the SS and police came for him, I screamed, cried, begged and pleaded for two long hours whilst my son ran upstairs in tears.....

I could see the police were uncomfortable with the whole set up and they made a retreat. They chose not to enforce the emergency protection order. :D:D:D

brighteyes
28-11-2008, 10:58 PM
That Brian Gerrish inteview shook me up!:mad::eek::(

I nearly had my own daughter taken into care two years ago!

I'm on tenterhooks at the moment due to yet another investigation. :(

5 months ago I was accused (anonymously) of neglecting my little boy. SS investigated but did not pursue it. I got a written report and even they described the person making the allegations as "malicious". Just this week they recieved a letter (again anonymous) with fresh allegations and I have just discovered that this person has been in contact with my ex (who has custody of our daughters) alleging that they too have been neglected in my care.:mad: At least now I have the confirmation of the identity of this psycho-bitch!!!

My ex has immediately stopped contact and informs me that solicitors will be involved.

hagbard_celine
29-11-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm on tenterhooks at the moment due to yet another investigation. :(

5 months ago I was accused (anonymously) of neglecting my little boy. SS investigated but did not pursue it. I got a written report and even they described the person making the allegations as "malicious". Just this week they recieved a letter (again anonymous) with fresh allegations and I have just discovered that this person has been in contact with my ex (who has custody of our daughters) alleging that they too have been neglected in my care.:mad: At least now I have the confirmation of the identity of this psycho-bitch!!!

My ex has immediately stopped contact and informs me that solicitors will be involved.

This is happening more and more to so many people!:mad::eek::(

Good luck with all that.

hagbard_celine
29-11-2008, 12:27 PM
me too hagbard , it was about two years ago that two social workers and 5 police officers banged on my door to remove my son from me...

Our crime ? Mine was to ask for help from the social services as my son 9 at the time had started school refusing (had special needs that the school didnt address) The LEA were threatening legal action if I didnt get him in school and the SS threatened to put him on the child protection register.

I tried my best but what no-one understood was that my son was refusing through fear not rebelion. We got to the point were my son was waking up feeling sick, he would sob his way through putting his uniform on, but was that upset he was having difficulty breathing, then he started to vomit.

I told all concerned of what had taken place, the SS said we dont care you must get him in school. At that point something clicked, I was shocked at their blahtent disregard for his emotional welbeing. I de-registered him from school with a view to teaching him myself. The SS claimed I was purposely isolating him from his peers...he was put on the register.

The judge granted an interim care order, were he had to go and live with foster parents, the day the foster carer came to pick him up he was frozen with fear. I had been told I must encourage my son to go with them or I would not see him again. He wouldnt go....
Hence the SS and police came for him, I screamed, cried, begged and pleaded for two long hours whilst my son ran upstairs in tears.....

I could see the police were uncomfortable with the whole set up and they made a retreat. They chose not to enforce the emergency protection order. :D:D:D

That's good to know because a time might come when I might have to barricade the front door!:eek:

This nightmare is becoming more and more common.

Funnily enough I've just had a call from the school social worker about my daughter's attendance record. She's recently come down with Bell's Palsy, a condition that paralyses one side of the face. It is very unsighlty and lasts for up to 6 weeks. My kid has been teased by the other kids at school and the other day she ran home from school and refued to go back. A few years ago they might have attempted to solve the problem environmentally, but now they get straight on the phone to the SS who come round spouting about care orders and foster homes! Brian Gerrish was right; it's a strategy:mad::eek:! This is happening more and more!

Hope you and your son have no more trouble from the SS.

badasscass
01-12-2008, 10:49 AM
my mom has several foster children, all girls. i find this to be true. most of the ones she has/had have been heavily medicated. especially the ones who came from the worst backgrounds...