How our mind works

[dorrax]

Them who know me Know my intrests.

I study NLP and I have 2 certificates from learning Stage Hypnosis at the royal national hotel in London. I would like to post random videos that Im sure many of the British have seen but Americans may not have.

My 1st video to show is how we can have our minds changed by someone else. It can be so well done that you feel it was your own Free Will

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg&feature=related

[keystone]

My 1st video to show is how we can have our minds changed by someone else. It can be so well done that you feel it was your own Free WillShit! Buggered if I'm going to watch it then. No offence.

BTW plase stop your avatar looking at me like that. :eek:

[augur]

Keystone, this video shows Derren Brown using NLP to 'program' Simon Pegg's thoughts - it's very interesting! It's good to be aware that these techniques can be used on you, and this video is a great example as Derren explains afterwards how it was done.

Dorrax - I've seen this before, but good post :)

[dorrax]

Keystone, this video shows Derren Brown using NLP to 'program' Simon Pegg's thoughts - it's very interesting! It's good to be aware that these techniques can be used on you, and this video is a great example as Derren explains afterwards how it was done.

Dorrax - I've seen this before, but good post :)

Yea. its a good one. the news does do it and there are MANY youtube videos showing.

Im gonna post a video of the news using NLP

[keystone]

Keystone, this video shows Derren Brown using NLP to 'program' Simon Pegg's thoughts - it's very interesting! It's good to be aware that these techniques can be used on you, and this video is a great example as Derren explains afterwards how it was done.Sorry - misunderstood. Thought it meant ................ well you know.

Perhaps I'll have a boo then.

[disorder2k8]

derren brown is really good at what he does, good psychological trickery indeed

[gremlin]

where do you get pictures of nerds so i can have an avatar of a nerd too:D

[dorrax]

where do you get pictures of nerds so i can have an avatar of a nerd too:D

nerdsrus.co.uk

[clozaril]

the man in action


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m7CKft4

[darketernal]

I think people who are unfamiliar with the basics of mind control and programing should really watch this clip. These techniques are used on us every single day by comerials, policians, religious leaders. This raises the question, are your thought processes your own? Is what you desire in life truely your own free will, or are you just picking up the subliminal programing of the PTB.

Stop and think about it. Why do we hold onto the values, beliefs and world views we have without any evidence for them at all? Yet when someone mentions something outside our world view... we automatically dismiss it at nonsense or demand evidence... but we do not demand evidence for the beliefs we already carry.

[clozaril]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg&feature=related



cool just watched this and thought he's doing way too much anchoring and when it played back he was anchoring the words b m x


just as an aside didn't derren brown say he doesn't actually like NLPers as all the are interested in is coming across as charismatic ?

[and justice for all]

cool just watched this and thought he's doing way too much anchoring and when it played back he was anchoring the words b m x

True about the anchoring words.

But he also always uses subtle intimidation and authoritative projection.
I do not like Brown.

[romas]

True about the anchoring words.

But he also always uses subtle intimidation and authoritative projection.
I do not like Brown.




Listen to what he says at the beginning, how much easier life would be if you could make other people like the stuff you want them to like

[and justice for all]

Listen to what he says at the beginning, how much easier life would be if you could make other people like the stuff you want them to like

oooh no baby, that's messing with other’s free will. it's a huge 'no-no'

See why I don't like him?

[romas]

oooh no baby, that's messing with other’s free will. it's a huge 'no-no'

See why I don't like him?



That's why I posted :D

[krakhead]

oooh no baby, that's messing with other’s free will. it's a huge 'no-no'

See why I don't like him?

I understand where you're coming from, but my take has always been that Derren Brown has set out to make people aware of these techniques. Once aware of them, they become obvious and thus lose their power.

I think Derren is an absolute gem of a guy who should be on tv more often :)

[and justice for all]

I understand where you're coming from, but my take has always been that Derren Brown has set out to make people aware of these techniques. Once aware of them, they become obvious and thus lose their power.

I think Derren is an absolute gem of a guy who should be on tv more often :)

Like wise I understand where you’re coming from. Problem is that I think Brown explains only a tiny portion of his techniques. In my book that’s lying by omission.

I absolutely don’t trust him. (Did anybody notice?)

lol

[jojo]

I think people who are unfamiliar with the basics of mind control and programing should really watch this clip. These techniques are used on us every single day by comerials, policians, religious leaders. This raises the question, are your thought processes your own? Is what you desire in life truely your own free will, or are you just picking up the subliminal programing of the PTB.

Stop and think about it. Why do we hold onto the values, beliefs and world views we have without any evidence for them at all? Yet when someone mentions something outside our world view... we automatically dismiss it at nonsense or demand evidence... but we do not demand evidence for the beliefs we already carry.

such a good post DE and so well put i just had to bump it up!

[raptorialis]

This guy Derren Brown must have a very fragile ego to get into this kind of stuff. I bet he was the boy everyone used to beat up in class.

In fact i'd like to do it now.

This NLP stuff is really just another word for evil.

So when you do NLP - you are really practicing evil.

Nothing a good baseball bat wouldn't fix.

DO US ALL A FAVOUR NEW WORLD NAZI
http://www.freewebs.com/scudge/71489.jpg

Them who know me Know my intrests.

I study NLP and I have 2 certificates from learning Stage Hypnosis at the royal national hotel in London. I would like to post random videos that Im sure many of the British have seen but Americans may not have.

My 1st video to show is how we can have our minds changed by someone else. It can be so well done that you feel it was your own Free Will

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg&feature=related

[krakhead]

Like wise I understand where you’re coming from. Problem is that I think Brown explains only a tiny portion of his techniques. In my book that’s lying by omission.

I absolutely don’t trust him. (Did anybody notice?)

lol

Lying? He's an entertainer! It'd be dull IMO if he gave ALL his techniques away fully - for me, part of the fun is trying to spot his techniques.

But hey, not everyone likes their coffee white either! ;)

[krakhead]

This guy Derren Brown must have a very fragile ego to get into this kind of stuff. I bet he was the boy everyone used to beat up in class.

In fact i'd like to do it now.

This NLP stuff is really just another word for evil.

So when you do NLP - you are really practicing evil.

Nothing a good baseball bat wouldn't fix.



Oh please! Grow up! I use NLP regularly in work to help people work through all sorts of problems - I'm evil am I?

The power of NLP techniques CAN be used for more nefarious purposes but it doesn't mean that, in and of itself, it IS evil.

That's like saying cars ARE evil because they can run people over and kill them - it's the user not the tool!

[dorrax]

This guy Derren Brown must have a very fragile ego to get into this kind of stuff. I bet he was the boy everyone used to beat up in class.

In fact i'd like to do it now.

This NLP stuff is really just another word for evil.

So when you do NLP - you are really practicing evil.

Nothing a good baseball bat wouldn't fix.

DO US ALL A FAVOUR NEW WORLD NAZI
http://www.freewebs.com/scudge/71489.jpg

Nazi? I point how he is gay?
Jeeze feel the love coming from you.

Well obviously you have a problem.

I use NLP to help people sleep or phobias or to just give them confidence.

I use Forums to talk about random stuff.

You use it to start abuse. With people like you in this world.... is it any real wonder why we are all in this mess?

Because of people who have NO respect for others.

Have a nice day.

[dorrax]

Oh please! Grow up! I use NLP regularly in work to help people work through all sorts of problems - I'm evil am I?

The power of NLP techniques CAN be used for more nefarious purposes but it doesn't mean that, in and of itself, it IS evil.

That's like saying cars ARE evil because they can run people over and kill them - it's the user not the tool!

just ignore him. he is one of them that wants attention.

Its true what I read... people who don't understand something fear that very something. the more weak minded they are the faster they hate it without even researching.

kind of like when people say "I hate david icke, he is a nut talking about lizards controlling us"

or

"9/11 couldent be an inside job. it was them muslims.. i knew i couldent trust that guy down the shop!"

Best thing to do is just ignore the ones that show no love for life or other peoples life.

[emanuel]

Nothing a good baseball bat wouldn't fix.

Big old slice of irony there....!

[emanuel]

I think people who are unfamiliar with the basics of mind control and programing should really watch this clip. These techniques are used on us every single day by comerials, policians, religious leaders. This raises the question, are your thought processes your own? Is what you desire in life truely your own free will, or are you just picking up the subliminal programing of the PTB.

Stop and think about it. Why do we hold onto the values, beliefs and world views we have without any evidence for them at all? Yet when someone mentions something outside our world view... we automatically dismiss it at nonsense or demand evidence... but we do not demand evidence for the beliefs we already carry.

I agree DE. Something many on this forum can't see.

[lottie]

Can we please keep the thread on track! Thankyou! :)

[dorrax]

The best thing about learning NLP is you spot it a mile off when you know it.

Let me try to re-phrase that.

the illuminati or NWO or whatever you wish to call them are our enemy at this moment. the most important point is ...

Know your enemy...

They know us they been watching us for 1000 years +

Your greatest weapon is your enemys mind...

Not a nice quote but this is there methods.

Learn about your enemy! because they allready know all about you.

Can NLP be used for bad?

my answer is
Can a Knife be used for bad?

or a gun,

heres a better one...

Can the internet be used for bad?

[steevo]

Them who know me Know my intrests.

I study NLP and I have 2 certificates from learning Stage Hypnosis at the royal national hotel in London. I would like to post random videos that Im sure many of the British have seen but Americans may not have.

My 1st video to show is how we can have our minds changed by someone else. It can be so well done that you feel it was your own Free Will

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg&feature=related

I find it very hard to believe that Pegg isnt part of the the whole set up cos NO WAY would I (personally) ever fall for that (or get hypnotised like that). If Pegg is being genuine, could it be that they are implanting thoughts into his mind in other ways (electronically for example) ? :confused:

[emanuel]

I find it very hard to believe that Pegg isnt part of the the whole set up cos NO WAY would I (personally) ever fall for that (or get hypnotised like that). If Pegg is being genuine, could it be that they are implanting thoughts into his mind in other ways (electronically for example) ? :confused:

How can you be so sure of that? You think you have the most secure and guarded mind on the planet??

[steevo]

How can you be so sure of that? You think you have the most secure and guarded mind on the planet??

Stop trying to bait me, youre wasting your time (and mine).

[dorrax]

I find it very hard to believe that Pegg isnt part of the the whole set up cos NO WAY would I (personally) ever fall for that (or get hypnotised like that). If Pegg is being genuine, could it be that they are implanting thoughts into his mind in other ways (electronically for example) ? :confused:

From what I have learned derren does put people under hypnosis before any event.

You can take from that what you wish.

to be honest I didnt know how he did it and i was amazed untill i watched the "how to" bit

but yes i believe it works. what he failed to say is when he touches him every few seconds, it is for a reason that im not going to go into. Download Richard Bandlers books.

if you wanna see if derren is real not a actor with other actors... watch him live. (i watched the live in liverpool 2007) I was AMAZED and theres stuff stuff from that show thats in my mind that i cant figure out.

People have asked me "why can derren put people into trance instantly?"

Well maybe he uses hypnosis on them before shooting and theres always the added factor that People know who he is. Expectations.

My teacher told me a story of when Paul Mckenna (a famous English hypnotist) was walking down the street and there was a woman walking near him. she was Mirroring everything he did. So he stopped and asked her is she ok? she said something like "yea im good your paul mckenna arnt you?" paul noticed she is not making eye contact so he asks her why. she said "Because I will be hypnotized" and indeed she would because of expectation.

its like negative thinking. you expect to fail.... you usually do. as i have seen, you always do.

[steevo]

From what I have learned derren does put people under hypnosis before any event.

You can take from that what you wish.

to be honest I didnt know how he did it and i was amazed untill i watched the "how to" bit

but yes i believe it works. what he failed to say is when he touches him every few seconds, it is for a reason that im not going to go into. Download Richard Bandlers books.

if you wanna see if derren is real not a actor with other actors... watch him live. (i watched the live in liverpool 2007) I was AMAZED and theres stuff stuff from that show thats in my mind that i cant figure out.

People have asked me "why can derren put people into trance instantly?"

Well maybe he uses hypnosis on them before shooting and theres always the added factor that People know who he is. Expectations.

My teacher told me a story of when Paul Mckenna (a famous English hypnotist) was walking down the street and there was a woman walking near him. she was Mirroring everything he did. So he stopped and asked her is she ok? she said something like "yea im good your paul mckenna arnt you?" paul noticed she is not making eye contact so he asks her why. she said "Because I will be hypnotized" and indeed she would because of expectation.

its like negative thinking. you expect to fail.... you usually do. as i have seen, you always do.

So you are not gonna give away any secrets then Dorrax ? Anyway, thanks for replying :)

[emanuel]

Stop trying to bait me, youre wasting your time (and mine).

You don't think we are all vulnerable to such techniques? I think it is likely we all have weak spots.

[dorrax]

So you are not gonna give away any secrets then Dorrax ? Anyway, thanks for replying :)

I am very honest.

You can learn how to do hypnosis with e-books same with NLP.

Dont be suckered in by paying.

[steevo]

You don't think we are all vulnerable to such techniques? I think it is likely we all have weak spots.

When I said "NO WAY would I (personally) ever fall for that (or get hypnotised like that)." I was trying to emphasise that I find it extremely hard to believe that it's even possible to do what Derren Brown APPEARED to do in that video. Hope that clears it up for you. And that's why i suggested that there MAY be other ways that the "hypnotists" are using to control people's minds.

[steevo]

I am very honest.

You can learn how to do hypnosis with e-books same with NLP.

Dont be suckered in by paying.

Dorrax, tell us a little of why Derren Brown touched Pegg's hand on occasions please. I suspect that he does it to make more of an emphasis on certain words.

[dorrax]

Dorrax, tell us a little of why Derren Brown touched Pegg's hand on occasions please. I suspect that he does it to make more of an emphasis on certain words.

You hit the nail on the head.

You can anchor things.

if everytime i met you i made you feel good and touched your head somewhere uncommon after a few times i wouldent have to make you feel good i could touch that exact spot.

Derren asks him to think about a time he felt good about whatever and then told him to enhance it. then touched his arm. I dunno if he did it again later in the video but thats basicly planting an anchor.

also by moving his hands to make him look somewhere to make it hard for him to concentrate on logic.

[steevo]

You hit the nail on the head.

You can anchor things.

if everytime i met you i made you feel good and touched your head somewhere uncommon after a few times i wouldent have to make you feel good i could touch that exact spot.

Derren asks him to think about a time he felt good about whatever and then told him to enhance it. then touched his arm. I dunno if he did it again later in the video but thats basicly planting an anchor.

Good explanation. Thanks dorrax :)

[raptorialis]

Just be basic krakhead.

Humanity doesn't need that shit.

Oh please! Grow up! I use NLP regularly in work to help people work through all sorts of problems - I'm evil am I?

The power of NLP techniques CAN be used for more nefarious purposes but it doesn't mean that, in and of itself, it IS evil.

That's like saying cars ARE evil because they can run people over and kill them - it's the user not the tool!

[raptorialis]

Forget NLP...........it is all witchcraft!

People like the power over others. This is what they truly desire.

Phobias can be dealt with in all sorts of non-intrusive ways.

You don't need drugs or to be cognitively hacked!

Black magic.... all this stuff. Beware!

WHY COME ON THIS FORUM WITH NLP WHEN PEOPLE HERE ARE AGAINST ILLUMINATI MIND ALTERING?

ITS ALL ABOUT POWER OVER PEOPLE............PERHAPS BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO NLP CANNOT HAVE NORMAL RELATIONSHIPS SO THEY HAVE TO INFILTRATE THE BRAIN BY OTHER MEANS. DERREN BROWN THINKS HE IS SMART AND SO DO MANY PEOPLE. I SAY EVIL.

http://www.glyphmedia.com/beatles/mind_games-vg-.jpg

THE WORD THERAPIST can be also thought of as "THE" "RAPIST"

BLACK MAGIC IS PROSTITION OF A SACRED FACULTY CALLED WISDOM!

Nazi? I point how he is gay?
Jeeze feel the love coming from you.

Well obviously you have a problem.

I use NLP to help people sleep or phobias or to just give them confidence.

I use Forums to talk about random stuff.

You use it to start abuse. With people like you in this world.... is it any real wonder why we are all in this mess?

Because of people who have NO respect for others.

Have a nice day.

[lightgiver]

this is a interesting link if you desire to learn more about the mind:)

Understanding the Mind: Lorig,

http://books.google.fr/books?hl=en&id=uoOZLj-ta0QC&dq=understanding+the+mind&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=xft6HrlaVq&sig=yFqd7hnR2ZRXdafi6blGo9tXHdk&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result#PPA13,M1

http://books.google.fr/books?id=K1wjdu7FFZkC&dq=understanding+the+mind&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=0zimxHvKFW&sig=gxMNpypjo3z_ls6I5nkyKomKjFY&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result

[duckingdafta]

Forget NLP...........it is all witchcraft!

not quite IMO... Pagan isn't witchcraft... if seen in a negative connotation

[romas]

This guy Derren Brown must have a very fragile ego to get into this kind of stuff. I bet he was the boy everyone used to beat up in class.

In fact i'd like to do it now.

This NLP stuff is really just another word for evil.

So when you do NLP - you are really practicing evil.

Nothing a good baseball bat wouldn't fix.

DO US ALL A FAVOUR NEW WORLD NAZI
http://www.freewebs.com/scudge/71489.jpg



Wow, you don't really strike me as saint saying that either :p

[raptorialis]

I know Romas. But these evil people need to understand that we are on to them big time.

These "Mind Manipulators" are so out of sorts with natural life that they seek to develop special powers over their fellow man.

They are conmen, scammers, black magicians.

We don't need these people in our society.

They are not helpful. They seek to amuse their ego and that of their friends by playing tricks on peoples minds.

We would not miss their jiggery pockery on our minds.





Wow, you don't really strike me as saint saying that either :p

[krakhead]

Dorrax, tell us a little of why Derren Brown touched Pegg's hand on occasions please. I suspect that he does it to make more of an emphasis on certain words.

THE most important thing he does for this to be successful is the initial 'handshake' - watch what he does when he goes to take Simon's hand and watch Simon's reaction closely.

THAT was the moment Derren was able to implant successfully, following this he doesn't let up with a very well scripted speech anchoring the important words as he goes along.

But without the 'handshake' none of it would have worked.

Have a watch - see what you think and I'll explain more if you need it

[dorrax]

THE most important thing he does for this to be successful is the initial 'handshake' - watch what he does when he goes to take Simon's hand and watch Simon's reaction closely.

THAT was the moment Derren was able to implant successfully, following this he doesn't let up with a very well scripted speech anchoring the important words as he goes along.

But without the 'handshake' none of it would have worked.

Have a watch - see what you think and I'll explain more if you need it

ur right. its the common handshake interupt you can google on youtube.

as for it being witchcraft as someone pointed out. I havent a clue i learned it for good. the only bad I have seen with it is in the media.

[raptorialis]

I know a lot of people who have been mucked up by this NLP.

People who are still trying to smoke things, but are distressed by nicotene.
People who were taken back to a traumatic childhood and lost their will to live because they were taken back.
People who doubt their own mind, because they allowed someone else is to get inside and fiddle around.

It is pure evil. Don't go near it.

Dump the books and CD's in the bin. Don't practice it.

Let nature, TIME and good medicine heal. NLP is SHORT-CUTTING quakery.


ur right. its the common handshake interupt you can google on youtube.

as for it being witchcraft as someone pointed out. I havent a clue i learned it for good. the only bad I have seen with it is in the media.