When will World War lll Begin, if Ever?

[cafetimes1991]

Everyone, when do you think World War lll will begin? I doubt at the moment if it will even occur. Rather, I think that Codex Alimentarius will be used to kill off us ''useless eaters''.

[lordzoma]

World War 3 was the cold war.

You mean World War IV.

And it will begin next year.

[extrasolar]

world war 2 isnt over yet

and i dont think world war 3 will ever happen, as much as people love trilogies

i think the next war will be multiversal

this world needs peace

[devotional soul]

According to astrology, there isn't really a big war in the stars until next year.

[green]

I thought we were on the 5638th one?

[gordysmit]

There is only one war ! and one war only? the war on your mind all the time love and fear :rolleyes:

[disorder2k8]

there is never really peace, just modified forms of warfare

[dedicate]

A lot of different answers and they are all correct.

Astrology may provide some clues.

When a nuclear bomb explodes in a major city, look for the stuff to hit the fan. That will be the sign for me to take to super survival mode.

[rossus]

there's only one safe place to rest

and that is deep in the love of the world's soul

[helpus]

half three on a Tuesday i reckon, hopefully after a bit of dinner.

[rossus]

most of western europe's and northern america's household families have been spared for a long time,
i am not sure when (if ever) the people in these regions will again suffer from the results off physical warfare,

but for a long time the killing, rape, torture has been going on continuously...
many innocent souls have already, and will burn in the fires of hell.

[whatistruth]

most of western europe's and northern america's household families have been spared for a long time,
i am not sure when (if ever) the people in these regions will again suffer from the results off physical warfare,

but for a long time the killing, rape, torture has been going on continuously...
many innocent souls have already, and will burn in the fires of hell.


We're going to go to hell if we die? :(

This just gets worse and worse.

[rossus]

We're going to go to hell if we die? :(

This just gets worse and worse.
no.

i meant that the things humanoids sometimes go through while alive,
is like being tortured by demons from hell.

okaaay

[exclamatio]

half three on a Tuesday i reckon, hopefully after a bit of dinner.

before dinner would be a shame :(

[carlg1212]

before dinner would be a shame :(

Luckily, I'm a sound sleeper and may just sleep through the bombings.

[cheeney1]

WW3 Started on Sept 11th 2001 the Century long war has Started.

[nimlyn]

Everyone, when do you think World War lll will begin? I doubt at the moment if it will even occur. Rather, I think that Codex Alimentarius will be used to kill off us ''useless eaters''.

Um! Could be soon…I’ve just seen what looked like a military helicopter fly over my house…Something that one doesn’t normally see in my neck of the woods / bush…Plus the movie that I was gonna watch on TV tonight has been replaced with another movie “Terminator 2” …Darned it! Almost end of the world again…:rolleyes:

[entrangermercenary]

half three on a Tuesday i reckon, hopefully after a bit of dinner.

Dont want 2 b running on a full stomache indigestion and all that.:rolleyes:

[cafetimes1991]

According to Old Moore's, 2008 will be (and has been?) a relatively quiet year. Has anyone read the 2009 edition yet?

[oddblock]

Worrying stuff. My fiance isn't a british citizen yet, she is studying here (2nd Masters).

What do you think would happen to us if was broke out? Would she be deported?

I'm pretty concerned :(

[itsallundercontrol]

WW3 Started on Sept 11th 2001 the Century long war has Started.

i agree

[reversi]

Everyone, when do you think World War lll will begin? I doubt at the moment if it will even occur. Rather, I think that Codex Alimentarius will be used to kill off us ''useless eaters''.

According to ThreeWorldWars.com (http://threeworldwars.com/index.html) it started some years ago. Have a look here: http://threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm.

It´s just business as usual. Nothing to worry about:/

[father ted]

Yeah, I've been waiting for one for few years, and it seems to be being manipulated a lot slower than people have predicted. Is that good or bad news?

[cafetimes1991]

Has anyone read this, from the website?:

From now until the latter part of 2008, many prophecies are going to begin to be fulfilled, especially the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation, which the apostle John saw but was restricted from recording. Those thunders are revealed in this book, as well as detailed accounts of the final three and one-half years of man's self-rule on earth, which are recorded in the account of the Seventh Seal of Revelation.

Some of these prophecies concern the demise of the United States over the next year, which will be followed by man's final world war. This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway. Billions will die! This time will far exceed even the very worst times in all human history.

As these events unfold, the world will increasingly become aware of the authenticity of the words in this book and realize that Ronald Weinland has been sent by God as His end-time prophet.

This book is primarily directed to the people of the three major religions of the world (Islam, Judaism and Christianity), whose roots are in the God of Abraham. Ronald Weinland has been sent to all three.

www.the-end.com

[oddblock]

Has anyone read this, from the website?:

From now until the latter part of 2008, many prophecies are going to begin to be fulfilled, especially the Seven Thunders of the Book of Revelation, which the apostle John saw but was restricted from recording. Those thunders are revealed in this book, as well as detailed accounts of the final three and one-half years of man's self-rule on earth, which are recorded in the account of the Seventh Seal of Revelation.

Some of these prophecies concern the demise of the United States over the next year, which will be followed by man's final world war. This last war will be the result of clashing religions and the governments they sway. Billions will die! This time will far exceed even the very worst times in all human history.

As these events unfold, the world will increasingly become aware of the authenticity of the words in this book and realize that Ronald Weinland has been sent by God as His end-time prophet.

This book is primarily directed to the people of the three major religions of the world (Islam, Judaism and Christianity), whose roots are in the God of Abraham. Ronald Weinland has been sent to all three.

www.the-end.com

Do we really believe that this man was sent from "God"? I believe he's a device to keep fear instilled in peoples hearts. Think about it, has there ever been a year go by where we HAVEN'T worried about a new war happening? They keep us in constant fear. AIDS, SARS, BIRD FLU, NUCLEAR WAR. If you can name a year when there wasn't a panic about something I'll eat my shoes.

[cafetimes1991]

Paul Joseph Watson & Yihan Dai
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, October 30, 2008
According to reports out of top Chinese mainstream news outlets, the RAND Corporation recently presented a shocking proposal to the Pentagon in which it lobbied for a war to be started with a major foreign power in an attempt to stimulate the American economy and prevent a recession.
A fierce debate has now ensued in China about who that foreign power may be, with China itself as well as Russia and even Japan suspected to be the targets of aggression.
The reports cite French media news sources as having uncovered the proposal, in which RAND suggested that the $700 billion dollars that has been earmarked to bailout Wall Street and failing banks instead be used to finance a new war which would in turn re-invigorate the flagging stock markets.
The RAND Corporation is a notoriously powerful NGO with deep ties to the U.S. military-industrial complex as well as interlocking connections with the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie foundations.

[zen_fox]

There is no war coming, friend. :)

[checkmate]

It's the war on truth and it's already started.

[red_ram]

It pleases me to see that most voters realise that this so-called war isn't going to happen. Ever.

[pri01]

i agree

I agree too. This is an eternal war where there can be no end. Unless they can absolutely conclude that there are no more terrorists or that we are no longer at risk, then this new war can go on forever.

[cafetimes1991]

http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm

[cleopatraxxx]

Worrying stuff. My fiance isn't a british citizen yet, she is studying here (2nd Masters).

What do you think would happen to us if was broke out? Would she be deported?

I'm pretty concerned :(

does she want to be British?
is she aware of the Illuminati agenda?
are you aware that if YOU also remain here then both will have to have IDcards, and be the first ones to be microchipped as a British nation?

once i heard, whatever Britain passes as a law becomes immediately followed by other countries...

[extrasolar]

it depends if people like the world wars as a sequel or a trilogy

[cleft_asunder]

I messed up, I wanted to say that it will begin around 2009 but I said 2012, oh well.

[cafetimes1991]

AFP
Sunday, Nov 9, 2008
Iran’s parliament speaker Ali Larijani slammed US president-elect Barack Obama on Saturday for saying Tehran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons was “unacceptable,” the official IRNA news agency reported.
“This signifies a pursuit of the same erroneous policy as in the past,” Larijani said when asked about Obama’s comment on Friday.
“If the United States wants to change its standing in the region it should send good signals,” he said.
“Obama understands that change does not only mean a change of colour and superficial differences, change must also have a strategic basis,” the agency quoted Larijani as saying.
Obama told his first news conference since winning the US presidential election on Tuesday that Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons was unacceptable and also that he would “respond appropriately” to a congratulatory letter from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

[cafetimes1991]

I think now that World War lll may start in January,as warned (somewhat) by Joe Biden and Colin Powell. I think an embargo will be placed on Iran by the US, which will spark the war.

[simplify]

I agree too. This is an eternal war where there can be no end. Unless they can absolutely conclude that there are no more terrorists or that we are no longer at risk, then this new war can go on forever.

or that parents wake up and teach their children to never go to war against another country. If sons/daughters refused to go into the military, then THPB would have no one to fight their so called wars. When will people wake up, and see the gameplan.

[cafetimes1991]

A senior European Union diplomat says the perfect time for Israel to strike Iranian nuclear installations ‘is between now and January 20′.
“A possible Israeli strike against Iran is not completely off the radar,” Turkish paper Hurriyet quoted the diplomat as saying.
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said Friday that Tel Aviv is ‘convinced that Iran continues to try to build a nuclear weapon’.
“We don’t rule out any option. We recommend others don’t rule out any option either,” added Barak, in regards to Obama’s plans for Iran.Tehran, a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), denies the Israeli claim, insisting that its enrichment program is solely directed at the civilian applications of the technology.
Israel, meanwhile, argues that the use of military force is a legitimate option in halting Iran’s nuclear progress.
“Israelis would consider a move such as this before Bush and Cheney leave,” said the EU diplomat, adding that once Obama takes office, Israel’s chances of striking Iran would be off the agenda.
President-elect of the United States Barack Obama will replace George W. Bush on January 20. While campaigning for the White House, Obama vowed to engage Iran with direct diplomacy in order to resolve the disputed nuclear issue.
In his first post-election press conference on Friday, Senator Obama said the international community has to mount an effort to prevent ‘Iran’s development of a nuclear weapon’.
The UN nuclear watchdog, which has extensively monitored Iran’s nuclear activities since 2003, concedes that it is not in a position to fully clarify the nature of the Iranian nuclear program.
The agency, however, announced in its latest Iran report that its inspectors have not found any ‘components of a nuclear weapon’ or ‘related nuclear physics studies’ in the country.

[lordzoma]

As far as I'm concerned, the people who control and fight the wars, get the rights to name it.

The neocons call the cold war world war 3, so that's what I call it too.

So your world war 3 is really world war 4! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

[cheeney1]

As far as I'm concerned, the people who control and fight the wars, get the rights to name it.

The neocons call the cold war world war 3, so that's what I call it too.

So your world war 3 is really world war 4! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

But Over History theres Been Over seven World wars and Counting :cool:

[oddblock]

does she want to be British?
is she aware of the Illuminati agenda?
are you aware that if YOU also remain here then both will have to have IDcards, and be the first ones to be microchipped as a British nation?

once i heard, whatever Britain passes as a law becomes immediately followed by other countries...

Hi,

It's not that she WANTS to be British in particular, but she does want to work here so it goes hand in hand. She is becoming increasingly aware of the Illuminati as I have been gently showing her evidence of such and she's coming round to understanding. I am also aware of the increasing shit were all getting into.

[ownedtbh]

i dont think world war 3 will ever happen but i made this as a joke




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/MoThUg/Untitled-1.jpg

[tracker]

Everyone, when do you think World War lll will begin? I doubt at the moment if it will even occur. Rather, I think that Codex Alimentarius will be used to kill off us ''useless eaters''.



well WW3 will probarbly occure just shortly after many millions rebbell against our self proclaimed masters and when the truth gets out .

maybe it will go like this .


economy crash
truth gets out and people notice the crap
a new desease gets out
people find the truth
word gets out

people begin to rebel.
WW3 breaks out

but this is just a mask for the take over because too many people rebbelled and dont believe government ( IE To govern mente = mind IE mind control )
so they destroy millions and control the rest , thus establishing the control theyve always wanted .

will it happen in 2009 ?
doubtfull
2012 ?

why 2012 ?

2010 maybe
2011
or 2020 , but 2012 ? has nothing to do with it , its all rubish .however , i wouldnt put it past these ritualistic vampires to do something on that date which would be usuall mass murder in some sick way or another .:cool:

[cafetimes1991]

I'm now beginning to think that Iran will be attacked almost immediately after Brack Obama is inaugurated.

[cafetimes1991]

Could the Mumbai attacks be the start? I doubt it, but it does seem like another important move. Great poster, ownedtbh.

[whatistruth]

i dont think world war 3 will ever happen but i made this as a joke




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/MoThUg/Untitled-1.jpg



Hahahaha thats awesome, great stuff.

[tien an]

Worrying stuff. My fiance isn't a british citizen yet, she is studying here (2nd Masters).

What do you think would happen to us if was broke out? Would she be deported?

I'm pretty concerned :(

Depends where she's from / if we're at war with that country.
Pray she gets deported to somewhere she knows and not locked-up in some nissen hut in Aldershot.

I have the same problem.
If they deport her, I'm going too...and claiming political asylum.

[joy division]

It allready has begun. 9/11 was the beggining(<<<i hate spelling that word)

It is just in its early stages like when Germany invaded there first couple of countries.

USA are going for pakistan now.

[tien an]

I'm now beginning to think that Iran will be attacked almost immediately after Brack Obama is inaugurated.

If it does happen then, it will be with a legitimately elected president. (did I just write that?).

If Bush declares a state of emergency and war...Barack is left sitting and watching, because there's nothing he can do.

(Assuming that he's the good man I hope him to be).

I've been naive before now....

[cognizant]

How can 911 be the beginning of a world war? I highly doubt it was muslims from some cave who did it. My guess is it was the same who did Mumbai - British and Israeli forces and most likely with our consent.

[nimlyn]

Back in November 2005 I had two dreams regarding terrorist attacks…One dream was about an explosion at one of Queen Elizabeth’s Royal residences during a festive season the other dream was about a terrorist attack at the Monato Zoo...:confused:

Although they were just dreams…With the current events concerning terrorist attacks I do wonder if there was ever a successful attack on a major institution like the British Monarchy whether that would be a tipping point to all out war?

[anahata]

Worrying stuff. My fiance isn't a british citizen yet, she is studying here (2nd Masters).

What do you think would happen to us if was broke out? Would she be deported?

I'm pretty concerned :(

Find your solution at:

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[pali_gap]

i dont think world war 3 will ever happen but i made this as a joke




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/MoThUg/Untitled-1.jpg

nice:D

[joy division]

How can 911 be the beginning of a world war? I highly doubt it was muslims from some cave who did it. My guess is it was the same who did Mumbai - British and Israeli forces and most likely with our consent.

What do you mean how can it be the beginning of World War????????

Something has to instigate it.

3.2.1....... back to sleep

[cafetimes1991]

In my view, there have been two World Wars... note the capital 'W's, though.

[lightgiver]

i dont think world war 3 will ever happen but i made this as a joke




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/MoThUg/Untitled-1.jpg

That should be advertised on major billboards,you forget to mention props and costumes supplied by the freemasonic corp.;):D
and imho i feel ww3 as already begun,and that is the war on our minds and body's to bring us into the NWO elites design for their world plan.

[cafetimes1991]

Israel plans for solo attack on Iran
Press TV
Thursday, December 4, 2008
The Israeli Army is preparing plans for a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities without any assistance from the US, an Israeli daily claims.
“While its preference is to coordinate with the US, defense officials have said Israel is preparing a wide range of options for such an operation,” The Jerusalem Post claimed on Thursday.
“It is always better to coordinate, but we are also preparing options that do not include coordination,” the daily quoted an unnamed “top official” as saying last week.

"The daily added Israeli officials said although it is difficult to launch an air raid against Iran without receiving help from the US Air Force which controls Iraq’s air space, such an operation is not impossible.
The report came after news stories claiming that US President George W. Bush had refused to give the green light to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for a military attack on Iran.
Iran has warned that it would deal “a crushing response” to Israel if Tel Aviv launched an air raid against the country.
Israel and its allies have been accusing Iran of developing nuclear weapons. Iran, however, says its nuclear activities are solely aimed at peaceful purposes."

[ubiquitous]

Israel plans for solo attack on Iran
Press TV
Thursday, December 4, 2008
The Israeli Army is preparing plans for a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities without any assistance from the US, an Israeli daily claims.
“While its preference is to coordinate with the US, defense officials have said Israel is preparing a wide range of options for such an operation,” The Jerusalem Post claimed on Thursday.
“It is always better to coordinate, but we are also preparing options that do not include coordination,” the daily quoted an unnamed “top official” as saying last week.

"The daily added Israeli officials said although it is difficult to launch an air raid against Iran without receiving help from the US Air Force which controls Iraq’s air space, such an operation is not impossible.
The report came after news stories claiming that US President George W. Bush had refused to give the green light to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert for a military attack on Iran.
Iran has warned that it would deal “a crushing response” to Israel if Tel Aviv launched an air raid against the country.
Israel and its allies have been accusing Iran of developing nuclear weapons. Iran, however, says its nuclear activities are solely aimed at peaceful purposes."


If they go ahead with this the USA is bound under "homeland defense" :eek: to get involved
and then so will Russia and probably China step in to support the interests
of their allies.

[cafetimes1991]

Neo-cons still preparing for Iran attack
Robert Dreyfuss
Asia Times
Thursday, December 4, 2008
What, exactly, does president-elect Barack Obama’s mild-mannered choice to head the Department of Health and Human Services, former senator Tom Daschle, have to do with neo-conservatives who want to bomb Iran?
A familiar coalition of hawks, hardliners and neo-cons expects Obama’s proposed talks with Iran to fail - and they’re already proposing an escalating set of measures instead. Some are meant to occur alongside any future talks. These include steps to enhance coordination with Israel, tougher sanctions against Iran, and a region-wide military buildup of US strike forces, including the prepositioning of military supplies within striking distance of that country.
Once the future negotiations break down, as they are convinced will happen, they propose that Washington quickly escalate to war-like measures, including a US Navy-enforced embargo on Iranian fuel imports and a blockade of that country’s oil exports. Finally, of course, comes the strategic military attack against the Islamic Republic of Iran that so many of them have wanted for so long.
It’s tempting to dismiss the hawks now as twice-removed from power: first, figures like John Bolton, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith were purged from top posts in the George W Bush administration after 2004; then the election of Obama and the announcement on Monday of his centrist, realist-minded team of establishment foreign policy gurus seemed to nail the doors to power shut for the neo-cons, who have bitterly criticized the president-elect’s plans to talk with Iran, withdraw US forces from Iraq, and abandon the reckless “war on terror” rhetoric of the Bush era.
‘Kinetic action’ against Iran
When it comes to Iran, however, it’s far too early to dismiss the hawks. To be sure, they are now plying their trade from outside the corridors of power, but they have more friends inside the Obama camp than most people realize. Several top advisers to Obama - including Tony Lake, United Nations ambassador-designate Susan Rice, Tom Daschle and Dennis Ross, along with leading Democratic hawks like Richard Holbrooke, close to vice president-elect Joe Biden or secretary of state-designate Hillary Clinton - have made common cause with war-minded think-tank hawks at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), and other hardline institutes.
Last spring, Tony Lake and Susan Rice, for example, took part in a WINEP “2008 Presidential Task Force” study which resulted in a report entitled, “Strengthening the Partnership: How to Deepen US-Israel Cooperation on the Iranian Nuclear Challenge”. The Institute, part of the Washington-based Israel lobby, was founded in coordination with the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and has been vigorously supporting a confrontation with Iran. The task force report, issued in June, was overseen by four WINEP heavyweights: Robert Satloff, WINEP’s executive director, Patrick Clawson, its chief Iran analyst, David Makovsky, a senior fellow, and Dennis Ross, an adviser to Obama who is also a WINEP fellow.
Endorsed by both Lake and Rice, the report opted for an alarmist view of Iran’s nuclear program and proposed that the next president set up a formal US-Israeli mechanism for coordinating policy toward Iran (including any future need for “preventive military action”). It drew attention to Israeli fears that “the United States may be reconciling itself to the idea of ‘living with an Iranian nuclear bomb’,” and it raised the spurious fear that Iran plans to arm terrorist groups with nuclear weapons.
There is, of course, nothing wrong with consultations between the United States and Israel. But the WINEP report is clearly predisposed to the idea that the US ought to give undue weight to Israel’s inflated concerns about Iran. And it ignores or dismisses a number of facts: that Iran has no nuclear weapon, that Iran has not enriched uranium to weapons grade, that Iran may not have the know-how to actually construct a weapon even if, at some time in the future, it does manage to acquire bomb-grade material, and that Iran has no known mechanism for delivering such a weapon.
WINEP is correct that the US must communicate closely with Israel about Iran. Practically speaking, however, a US-Israeli dialogue over Iran’s “nuclear challenge” will have to focus on matters entirely different from those in WINEP’s agenda. First, the US must make it crystal clear to Israel that under no circumstances will it tolerate or support a unilateral Israeli attack against Iran.
Second, Washington must make it clear that if Israel were indeed to carry out such an attack, the US would condemn it, refuse to widen the war by coming to Israel’s aid, and suspend all military aid to the Jewish state. And third, Israel must get the message that, even given the extreme and unlikely possibility that the US deems it necessary to go to war with Iran, there would be no role for Israel.
Just as in the wars against Iraq in 1990-1991 and 2003-2008, the US hardly needs Israeli aid, which would be both superfluous and inflammatory. Dennis Ross and others at WINEP, however, would strongly disagree that Israel is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Ross, who served as Middle East envoy for president George H W Bush and then Bill Clinton, was also a key participant in a September 2008 task force chaired by two former senators, Republican Daniel Coats and Democrat Chuck Robb, and led by Michael Makovsky, brother of WINEP’s David Makovsky, who served in the Office of the Secretary of Defense in the heyday of the Pentagon neo-cons from 2002-2006. Robb, incidentally, had already served as the neo-cons’ channel into the 2006 Iraq Study Group, chaired by former secretary of state James Baker and former Representative Lee Hamilton. According to Bob Woodward’s latest book, The War Within: A Secret White House History 2006-2008, it was Robb who insisted that the Baker-Hamilton task force include an option for a “surge” in Iraq.
The report of the Coats-Robb task force - “Meeting the Challenge: US Policy Toward Iranian Nuclear Development” - went far beyond the WINEP task force report that Lake and Rice signed off on. It concluded that any negotiations with Iran were unlikely to succeed and should, in any case, be short-lived. As the report put the matter, “It must be clear that any US-Iranian talks will not be open-ended, but will be limited to a pre-determined time period so that Tehran does not try to ‘run out the clock’.”
Anticipating the failure of the talks, the task force (including Ross) urged “prepositioning military assets” coupled with a “show of force” in the region. This would be followed almost immediately by a blockade of Iranian gasoline imports and oil exports, meant to paralyze Iran’s economy, followed by what they call, vaguely, “kinetic action”.
That “kinetic action” - a US assault on Iran - should, in fact, be massive, suggested the Coats-Robb report. Besides hitting dozens of sites alleged to be part of Iran’s nuclear research program, the attacks would target Iranian air defense and missile sites, communications systems, Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps facilities, key parts of Iran’s military-industrial complex, munitions storage facilities, airfields, aircraft facilities, and all of Iran’s naval facilities. Eventually, they say, the US would also have to attack Iran’s ground forces, electric power plants and electrical grids, bridges, and “manufacturing plants, including steel, autos, buses, etc”.
This is, of course, a hair-raising scenario. Such an attack on a country that had committed no act of war against the United States or any of its allies would cause countless casualties, virtually destroy Iran’s economy and infrastructure, and cause havoc throughout the region. That such a high-level group of luminaries should even propose steps like these - and mean it - can only be described as lunacy. That an important adviser to Obama would sign on to such a report should be shocking, though it has received next to no attention.

[cafetimes1991]

Iran deploys 60-ship armada for massive war readiness maneuver
DEBKAfile
Friday, Dec 05, 2008
Wednesday, Dec. 3, the Iranian navy and air force began a six-day maneuver of marine and air might which Tehran radio said would cover an area of 50,000 square miles of the Persian Gulf, the Sea of Oman and the Strait of Hormuz. Tehran has threatened to block the narrow strait if attacked. Admiral Qasem Rostamabadi said its aim is to “increase the level of readiness of Iran’s naval forces and test domestically-made naval weaponry.”
This is stage two of a larger exercise dubbed Unity-87, DEBKAfile’s military sources report.
Air strikes against “which sank big enemy vessels” were said to be part of the war game, a clear reference to American air carriers, three of which are now present in waters opposite Iran. Iranian Navy chief Adm. Habibollah Sayyari boasted Wednesday: “Iran has pushed back the frontiers of naval capabilities to become the decisive maritime force in the region.”
DEBKAfile’s Iranian sources report that the exercise is part of Tehran’s preparations for a US and/or Israeli attack on its nuclear installations and Revolutionary Guards bases which its political, military and intelligence strategists are convinced is on the way ahead of Barak Obama’s January 21 inauguration as US president.
Tuesday, Chairman of Iran’s Expediency Council Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani called the United States “the main enemy of the Islamic Republic of Iran.” He was speaking on the thirtieth anniversary of Iran’s post-revolutionary parliament (Majlis).
A senior Iranian official visiting Abu Dhabi at the end of November said that Obama’s decision to retain Robert Gates at the Pentagon was taken in Tehran as further confirmation of the coming attack in view of which he had resolved not to change war horses. Naming Hillary Clinton as secretary of state and Gen. James Jones as national security adviser was also interpreted as the harnessing of backers for an open military option. Every effort made to persuade the Iranians that Washington was not about to exercise this option has fallen on deaf ears.

[notthisshitagain]

Whoa, that's insane...

[cafetimes1991]

Hoax India call put Pakistan on high alert: report
AFP
Saturday, Dec 06, 2008
A hoax phone call from someone claiming to be India’s foreign minister put Pakistan on high alert last weekend as relations between the two nuclear powers deteriorated, a report said Saturday.
The caller told Pakistan’s President Asif Ali Zardari that India would take military action if Islamabad did not hand over the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks, the Dawn newspaper said, quoting diplomatic and security sources.
Pakistan responded by putting its air force on high alert and the incident triggered a flurry of intense diplomatic activity, as some world leaders feared the row over the attacks could lead to war.
New Delhi has increasingly pointed the finger at Islamabad over last week’s devastating Mumbai siege by Islamic militants in which 163 people died.
The violence, sometimes referred to as ‘India’s 9/11,’ has enraged public opinion and threatened a slow-moving peace process.
Dawn said the caller managed to bypass the standard procedures and was transferred directly to Zardari after introducing himself as Pranab Mukherjee, India’s foreign minister.

[cafetimes1991]

Pakistan ‘ready to repulse Indian attack’
PRESS TV
Tuesday, December 09, 2008
Pakistan says it is fully prepared to defend itself should India engage in a military action against the country over the Mumbai attacks.
Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said Tuesday that while Islamabad seeks peace with its neighbor, it is “fully prepared in case it (war) is imposed on us.”
“We are not oblivious to our responsibilities to defend our homeland. But it is our desire that there should be no war,” Qureshi said.

The warning comes as tension between New Delhi and Islamabad has been high over Indian claims that Pakistan was behind the three-day assault on India’s financial and cultural capital, where 172 people were killed and more than 300 wounded.
Similar finger-pointing after an attack on the Indian Parliament had brought South Asia’s two nuclear-armed governments to the brink of war in 2001.
Qureishi’s remarks come after India’s ruling Congress party spokeswoman Jayanti Natarajan warned of “stern action” against Pakistan, in response to alleged involvement of Pakistani militants in Mumbai terror attacks.

[cafetimes1991]

Personally, I thought that this World War lll would begin quite a while ago, like August 2008 or very soon after the Mumbai attacks. I guess the chess pieces are just being moved into position before the major assault…

[kingmob]

I just don't understand how people in command of India and Pakistan can be manipulated like this.

They have secret agencies, they most likely know the truth, they most likely also know that they are being manipulated and the war between them will serve a purpose for an outside party. Why can't they get their hostilities in order? Indians and Pakistanis should be friendly allies, not foes.

India, I'm afraid, has sold out a long time ago, and is no longer owned by Indians.

[joy division]

I just don't understand how people in command of India and Pakistan can be manipulated like this.

They have secret agencies, they most likely know the truth, they most likely also know that they are being manipulated and the war between them will serve a purpose for an outside party. Why can't they get their hostilities in order? Indians and Pakistanis should be friendly allies, not foes.

India, I'm afraid, has sold out a long time ago, and is no longer owned by Indians.

India was and is still controlled the the anglo/american empire.

please.

[cafetimes1991]

Bump http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/Bump/bump.jpg

[devotional soul]

Srila Prabhupada, a respected teacher from India said back in 1973 that WWIII would start with Pakistan and India. Much of India would suffer. But the war is really between the US and Russia. The war will end with the US dropping a nuclear bomb on Russia.

He also said there would be a comet before the big disaster. There are some comets coming in 2009 visible to the naked eye in February and later in fall.

http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/encyclopedia/worldwar.htm

[devotional soul]

Some astrology:

http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2008-12.html

I mentioned another elevated risk for extreme storm and seismic activity later in the month, which happens to coincide with a simultaneous Mars-Pluto alignment on the 28th (in effect throughout the last week of the month, and into early January). What to watch for? A rash of fires, explosions and crashes, of criminal attacks, terrorist strikes, military clashes and the like. For any of a number of reasons, a good time to avoid mass transportation and its infrastructure as much as possible. Adrenaline and blood tend to flow freely at such times, so stay alert and safe. Infectious diseases and other biohazards may pose an especially high risk during this late December Mars phase.

As catastrophic as the Mumbai massacre was, it pales in comparison to scenarios such as another war between India and Pakistan, another Middle East war (precipitated by a preemptive strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities), etc. I’m not seeing any of these things this month, mind you. But late 2009 into early 2010 is another calculation entirely. For now, it’s smaller scale stuff – horribly tragic if you’re anywhere in the immediate vicinity, merely terrorizing if you’re out of range.

[druggalo]

it started 8 yearsago

[bulgariaole]

"I just don't understand how people in command of India and Pakistan can be manipulated like this"

manupulated? they are as controlled as the US and Brittan. I personally dont think anything will happen between pakistan and india, simply because its not logical to start a war over this, but you know how the public is, stupid and easily tricked to believe anything, and thats the sadest part of all...

[multiversal]

world war 2 isnt over yet

and i dont think world war 3 will ever happen, as much as people love trilogies

i think the next war will be multiversal

this world needs peace

:eek:

[devotional soul]

http://www.daily.pk/local/other-local/8706-india-threatens-pakistan-with-deadline-for-war.html

India threatens Pakistan with deadline for WAR
WRITTEN BY WWW.DAILY.PK
WEDNESDAY, 24 DECEMBER 2008 01:11

New Delhi has told Islamabad that time is running out for Pakistan with the deadline of Dec 26th given by for a crackdown on so called terror groups which are charities for Hindu & Christians.
A leading publisher of geopolitical intelligence, Stratfor, has said that after the Nov 26th Mumbai attacks, India relayed a message to Pakistan via the US that they would be given thirty days to carry out significant actions in cracking down on Islamist militant proxies operating on Pakistani soil.

Islamabad has continued to deny that the terrorists who attacked Mumbai were from Pakistan.

The Stratfor report said: 'Pakistan's deadline, as far as we know, is Dec 26th, making Indian military action against Pakistan a very real and near possibility. The Indians have had a month to prepare their military operations against Pakistan, and Indian defence sources have revealed that these plans are ready to go into effect.'

Over the past month, the US has come down hard on Pakistan behind the scenes, making it clear that Islamabad will have to deliver on India's demands or else Washington will not be able to stand in New Delhi's way if and when India decides to act.

However, the report said that it is still unclear how far India will take this military campaign and to what extent the US operations in Afghanistan will be affected.

Discussions are taking place inside Indian defence circles over an escalatory military campaign, beginning with largely symbolic strikes in Pakistan's Kashmir against local offices.

Depending on Pakistan's ability to respond, Indian pressure could then be ratcheted up with precision air strikes in Pakistan's urban areas, including intelligence facilities and militant leadership hideouts.

[cafetimes1991]

NKorea says South seeking war, threatens "sea of fire"
19 hours ago
SEOUL (AFP) — North Korea accused South Korea Tuesday of trying to provoke another war and threatened to turn its neighbour into "a sea of fire" in response to any attack.
A senior military official, echoing threats made in late October, said the "slightest moves" by US and South Korean forces towards a pre-emptive strike would be countered with a "more rapid and powerful advanced pre-emptive strike."
The comments came from Vice-Marshal Kim Il-Chol, the armed forces minister and a member of the communist state's powerful National Defence Commission.
Kim, quoted by the official Korean Central News Agency, said such a counterstrike by the North would employ means "unimaginably more powerful than nuclear weapons."
It would "not merely turn everything into a sea of fire but reduce everything treacherous and anti-reunification to debris and build an independent reunified country on it."
He was speaking at a ceremony marking the 17th anniversary of leader Kim Jong-Il's takeover as armed forces' supreme commander.
The language was similar to that in a military statement on October 28, issued in response to the launch by Seoul-based groups of anti-Pyongyang leaflets across the heavily fortified border.
Relations have worsened further since then. On December 1 the North expelled hundreds of South Korean workers from the Kaesong joint industrial estate and imposed strict border controls.
The latest round of international nuclear disarmament talks ended without agreement this month.

[cafetimes1991]

Fear, Fear Fear
The United States has urged India and Pakistan to avoid unnecessarily raising tension amid reports of troop movements to the border.
Some Pakistani troops have been redeployed from the north-west and some leave cancelled, army officials said.
India earlier advised its citizens against travelling to Pakistan amid the continuing tension in the wake of last month's deadly attacks in Mumbai.
The attacks on several targets in the city left more than 170 people dead.
'Close contact'
A Pakistani military spokesman called its movements a minimum defensive measure.
And a senior security official said a limited number of soldiers had been pulled out from non-essential positions on the Afghan border and areas where there were no military operations.

[pinkfreud]

India was and is still controlled the the anglo/american empire.

yeah i think so too. the brits never really left india if you know what i mean.

and for that matter, they never really left pakistan either.


if india and pakistan are where they are right now, it is only because of the former british empire, and nothing else. divide and rule at its best.


edit: OP, WWIII was the cold war. the war in 2009 will be WWIV.

[cafetimes1991]

I'm not taking the Cold War as World War III, for popular reference. If the US etc goes to war with China etc, people would call it World War 3, not World War 4. The Cold War may well have been global, but calling it World War Three just never really caught on...
I know, it's confusing.:(

[cafetimes1991]

Pakistan says no war with India, US leads diplomatic efforts
Susan Stumme
AFP
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008
Pakistan again said on Saturday that it does not want war with India, as the international community tries to defuse tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours after Islamabad moved troops to the border.
The White House called for calm amid a flurry of diplomatic activity in both Islamabad and New Delhi aimed at easing already badly strained ties, one month after the Mumbai attacks, which India has blamed on Pakistan-based militants.
“We don’t want to have aggression with our neighbours. We want to have friendly relations with our neighbours,” Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said at his official residence in remarks broadcast on state television.

[arthas6014]

The Indian-Pakistani and Israel-Iran opposition gets me a little bit nervous. If in Pakistan-India war there would be any nuclear activities, then Israel won't hesitate to step into the party, with same things.

[cafetimes1991]

Conflict Between Pakistan and India: Realizing RAND’s Plan for World War Three
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
Saturday, Dec 27, 2008
According to the New York Times, Pakistan has moved troops away from its western border with Afghanistan while India has issued a warning to travelers to avoid Pakistan. “The redeployment came as Indian authorities warned their citizens not to travel to Pakistan given the heightened tensions between the two nations, news agencies reported, particularly since Indian citizens had been arrested there in connection with a bombing in the Pakistani city of Lahore,” the newspaper reports. The Associated Press quoted two Pakistani intelligence officials as saying that the Pakistani Army’s 14th division was being sent to Kasur and Sialkot, near the Indian border, and that around 20,000 troops were being redeployed.

[cafetimes1991]

I found this good quote from Prison Planet, a response to an article...
Providence Divine, ha ha. Russia and China are pretty smart these days. You know how america won the 2nd world war (the real version)? germany was the strongest military wise, no doubt. And japan was the best military strategic wise without a doubt, what america forgets with its continued arrogance is that asia and europe fought the japanese and germans many for many years before america decided to play. when you enter the game in the last quarter, while everyone else is broke and exhausted from war, victory comes a hell of a lot easier. notice russia and china dont do shit military wise lately, while america is entering the last quarter broke and exhausted from war? like i said, Russia and China a re pretty smart these days, they know how to achieve hemogony with the support of the world
- by Caleb

[cafetimes1991]

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Wednesday, December 31, 2008
Top Neo-Con John Bolton told Fox News yesterday that the conflict in Gaza could lead to a U.S. attack on Iran as the former U.S. ambassador to the UN exploited the crisis to propagandize for a new war.
“So while our focus obviously is on Gaza right now, this could turn out to be a much larger conflict,” said Bolton, adding that “we’re looking at potentially a multi-front war here.”
“I don’t think there’s anything at this point standing between Iran and nuclear weapons other than the possibility of the use of military force possibly by the United States, possibly by Israel,” added the former ambassador, suggesting that a strike on Iran’s facilities by Israel alone would be risky but could push Iran back by three or four years.

[jesta_g]

the conflict in Gaza could lead to a U.S. attack on Iran




lmao that sounds sooooo stoopid, its basically like saying "your pal from high school killed my pet hamster so im gonna kill your family, waaahhh!"

gawd I hate the nwo.

[devotional soul]

Iran has a ship of medical and food supplies for Gaza. If Israel attacks it like they did the last boat, they will not be happy.

Bible prophecy (Ezekiel 38) says that Russia, Iran, Libya, Sudan, and Turkey troops will unite for a surprise attack on Israel, and Israel will drop some kind of radioactive bomb weapon.

These Gaza attacks are opposed by all of these nations, so this is very possible.

[cafetimes1991]

A very interesting thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61114

[apekteina lordosis]

well this is the world wide web aka the www and if you rotate the last "w" 90 degrees to the left you get a 3 aka ww3. in other words prehaps the elite factions are being benevolent (or wise, after all they probably realise some of the killing technology they've developed might be a bit too efficient) thus allowed the www to flourish in order so that they could "fight" in a new way. and frankly despite the fact innocent people are still being killed it's a lot less than the carnage that went on with ww1 and ww2.

[gilly]

Do we really believe that this man was sent from "God"? I believe he's a device to keep fear instilled in peoples hearts. Think about it, has there ever been a year go by where we HAVEN'T worried about a new war happening? They keep us in constant fear. AIDS, SARS, BIRD FLU, NUCLEAR WAR. If you can name a year when there wasn't a panic about something I'll eat my shoes.

NO!!!

I started a thread about this book on the General Forum, but nobody seemed to get the point I was making!

Weinland IS NOT, as he claims, a prophet communicating God's word at all!

The reason this book is of interest, and imo SHOULD be taken seriously, is specifically because he's working and communicating on behalf of the NWO puppet-masters!!!!

[ladypagan]

I was wondering when they will finish WWII

why everybody is so anxious to getting started with WWIII?

[disorder2k8]

its already happening, derrr

it doesnt have to be a physical war with bombs

[cafetimes1991]

its already happening, derrr

it doesnt have to be a physical war with bombs

See my earlier posts. :)

From Press TV:

South Korean and US troops go on higher alert amid Pyongyang's threats of 'a powerful strike' and growing fears of a full-scale war in the peninsula.

"As of 7:15 am Thursday (2215 GMT Wednesday), the US-South Korea Combined Forces Command upgraded Watch Conditions by a notch to Stage Two," Seoul's Defense Ministry said in a statement released on Thursday.

"Surveillance over the North will be stepped up, with more aircraft and personnel mobilized," AFP quoted spokesman Won Tae-Jae as saying.

The remarks come in response to North Korea's Wednesday announcement, saying it was withdrawing from the armistice that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.

The North also warned that it could launch a military offensive on the South as it faced further pressure over test-firing an atomic bomb for the second time on Monday.

Following the test fire, Seoul said it planned to join the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), which is aimed at halting shipments of weapons technology.

The decision enraged the North which said it would respond to "any tiny hostile acts…, including the stopping and searching of our peaceful vessels," with a strong military strike.

Responding to the threats, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned North Korea against "provocative and belligerent" and highlighted the US firm commitment to the armistice and defending South Korea and Japan -- both in easy range of North Korean missiles.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Pyongyang's angry rhetoric will only aggravate its isolation, and that the peace has held despite the North's repeated threats to end the truce.

Nearly 28,500 US troops remain stationed in South Korea in what Washington calls a deterrent force against Pyongyang.

Won said the surveillance step-up -- the fourth since 1982 -- to stage two would be focused along the borderline Demilitarized Zone, the Joint Security Area at Panmunjom village and the disputed Yellow Sea border of Northern Limit Line.

He added the tight defense measure was aimed at preventing the North's military provocations, vowing "the military will deal sternly with provocative acts."

[octopusrex]

WWI began when Chris Columbus discovered America. WWII was the Keiser's.. WWIII was Hitler. WWIV is Osama.

Wait.. I forgot Napoleon. That means WWII was Napoleon, WIII was the Keiser, WWIV Hitler, WWV Osama..

Yeah, we're on the 5th world war.

[cafetimes1991]

Again, see my earlier posts. :) We don't call most of those "world wars" though we probably should.

[lizzy]

NO.it's already started......( with 9-11)....

[dreamweaver]

Again, see my earlier posts. :) We don't call most of those "world wars" though we probably should.

All depends on how you define "world war", of course.

This site has a definition and is quite an interesting read (takes the conspiratorial view of history, including the Albert Pike predictions): http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-3/ww3.htm

[1337]

stupid world war 3 site wont let me see cause my computer clock is wrong.

the david icke site used to do that to . stupid script kiddies

[dude111]

NO.it's already started......( with 9-11)....Very good lizzy!

I think that may have been the small start of it!!

[dreamweaver]

Very good lizzy!

I think that may have been the small start of it!!

I'd say the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was the proper start. The 9/11 attacks were a prelude, rather like the incidents prior to the invasion of Poland were a prelude to WWII.

I think most people here would agree that the 9/11 attacks were more directly analogous to the burning down of the Reichstag building.

[arty2000]

We're going to go to hell if we die? :(

This just gets worse and worse.

wow..you need a hug:D:D

[arty2000]

it depends if people like the world wars as a sequel or a trilogy

Lord of the Rings hands down best trilogy,,Matrix a close second:)

[spiraltrance]

I don't think there will be another world war.

[arty2000]

or that parents wake up and teach their children to never go to war against another country. If sons/daughters refused to go into the military, then THPB would have no one to fight their so called wars. When will people wake up, and see the gameplan.

pioneers of a warless world are the young men and women who refuse military service...Albert Einstein:)

[arty2000]

As far as I'm concerned, the people who control and fight the wars, get the rights to name it.

The neocons call the cold war world war 3, so that's what I call it too.

So your world war 3 is really world war 4! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

umm arent you forgetting bout the Alexanders,romans,persians, egyptians,mongols and all the rest of those lovely people who either conquered the known world or tried awfully darn hard;)...so based on my count we are...lets see carry the 1 subtract 2 multiply by 3 and I come up w/bout ww642.5 plus or minus 1..who said HS algebra would never come in handy:D and of course this is based solely on linear time;)

[ex_anser_ovo]

WWIII will start when the servers can handle the required load.
I hear the draw distance is supposed to be amazing.
You'll be able to see a mushroom cloud rendered from up to 100 miles away. :eek:

[arty2000]

In my view, there have been two World Wars... note the capital 'W's, though.

those are upside down mm's:)

[arty2000]

I was wondering when they will finish WWII

why everybody is so anxious to getting started with WWIII?

somethin to do I guess:confused:

[dreamweaver]

those are upside down mm's:)

I knew MaccyD had a hand in it somewhere....

[reversi]

umm arent you forgetting bout the Alexanders,romans,persians, egyptians,mongols and all the rest of those lovely people who either conquered the known world or tried awfully darn hard;)...so based on my count we are...lets see carry the 1 subtract 2 multiply by 3 and I come up w/bout ww642.5 plus or minus 1..who said HS algebra would never come in handy:D and of course this is based solely on linear time;)

It´s called 'world war' because aliens are taking charge :eek:

[reversi]

The page you were looking for doesn't exist (404)

The page you were looking for doesn't exist (404)

[lase]

World War 3 started shortly after World War 2 ended.

http://www.whale.to/b/silentweapon.html

It's a War against your mind.

__

[axomoxa]

It's a War against your mind.

__

Exactly!

the war on terror, the war on terra? the war on the consciousness of man on planet earth?

Thinking about it is a waist of the present. Even preparing for it has less to do with knowing how its gona go down...as it does with centering yourself to be ready for anything.

[adbasque]

world war 2 isnt over yet

and i dont think world war 3 will ever happen, as much as people love trilogies

i think the next war will be multiversal

this world needs peace

They will offer 2 choices

World government, if they see that people are resisting it
they will start WWIII, with that they can reduce the population
they can force people to submit to their will, which is the One world government
which they wanted in the first place.

They can also scare people to accept the one world order to avoid world war III.
But I believe the WWIII will start soon if not this summer, or towards the end of this year

It will be very naive to think that it won't occur
It will, it's a question of when

Just listen what is the EU is calling for, in the last two weeks alone, one world order, EUF, European Federation

[dreamweaver]

They will offer 2 choices

World government, if they see that people are resisting it
they will start WWIII, with that they can reduce the population
they can force people to submit to their will, which is the One world government
which they wanted in the first place.

They can also scare people to accept the one world order to avoid world war III.
But I believe the WWIII will start soon if not this summer, or towards the end of this year

It will be very naive to think that it won't occur
It will, it's a question of when

Just listen what is the EU is calling for, in the last two weeks alone, one world order, EUF, European Federation

And still there are idiots who think a one world government would be a good thing. You know the sort - what South Park calls the "know-it-all college hippies"...

[axomoxa]

there are more false fear mongering going on about ww3, mainstream or non, than anything else. its not population control, its all about evolution control...as it was in the beginning...it is the same now.

sure they contain the numbers at a manageable count, thru toxic food and modern medicine etc, but they have no reason to get rid of their "children" or slaves. they need us like the sheeple need them. they will just make us more "fit" at their disposal....in a ultra slow slippery slope down a technological, medicated, sensation based "life" depended on big brother... happily going about thinking they are free and safe.... sure free to choose beef or chicken and safe from make belief enemies.... and when chipped no one can live outside of it with out with out food. to me that is way worse than ww3 and they are capable of delivering the worse.

sure there is a powerfull fraction that would love to whip alot of us out right now, but they play it out in the political theatre cause EVERYBODY is buying into it...meanwhile the big 3 enemies, russia, china and iran are all working togehter with the west. double headed eagle at work. the other fraction just wants to "guide" us stopid slaves for our own good and take us thru the scenic way to a living hell.

so if you think ww3 is coming, then ask yourself do you fit into the evolution controled category?.... or are you too afraid to live fully and have the nihilistic attitude? beware of the gatekeepers filling minds with "truth" and filling hearts with fear in the name of "service"....and some just simply catering to the morbid side of man living in a world of problems with no solution in sight.

eventhou the problems seem so complex, the answers are embarssingly simple.

[adbasque]

And still there are idiots who think a one world government would be a good thing. You know the sort - what South Park calls the "know-it-all college hippies"...

Because they heartedly, blindly believe their government, it's inconceivable for them, that the government "they've elected" could be corrupt.

People are dumbed down big time, they are mesmerised by the state.
it is going to be very difficult to break the spell.

Some are afraid to face the truth, they sticking their heads in the sand
you have all sorts of people out there.

But the enemy is coming at us, even if we bury our heads in the sand the wave is still coming forward if we don't stop it, it will kill us

don't be fooled by people's ages, they still immature, like kids, without the government they are lost, without the system they've been brought up in they are lost, like a herd without a sheperd.

it's crazy I know, but that's the truth
people are even thinking on going to the mouth of the beats, voting BNP lol
it's madness, cand chaos

[sloughi]

Lebanon on 'full alert' ahead of IDF Home Front Command drill

By Haaretz Service and DPA

Lebanese army sources said on Saturday that the country's military had been placed "on full alert," ahead of Israel's large-scale Home Front Command drill expected to begin on Sunday.

"Despite [the fact that] the Lebanese government has received assurances from various sides including UNIFIL that the maneuvers were defensive in nature, the Lebanese army was placed in a state of full alert along the border with Israel," an army source who did not wish to be identified said.

The drill, called "Turning Point 3," is scheduled to run from [U]Sunday to Thursday.

Government offices and 252 local councils and municipalities will open
"crisis rooms" that will respond to various emergency scenarios.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1089003.html

[margaretr]

It is due in 2010 but will last only 6 months
according to the Mayan calendar - which incidentally has been right in forecasting for several billion years

[dreamweaver]

It is due in 2010 but will last only 6 months
according to the Mayan calendar - which incidentally has been right in forecasting for several billion years

How? Thousands, yes, but not billions. Humans haven't existed that long.
I appreciate there may be a teensy weensy bit of hyperbole in there, but that's going a bit far. ;)

The Mayan civilisation is thought to have existed from 2000BC up until the Spanish conquistadors destroyed it in the 17th century.

The calendar does predate the Mayans - but by a couple of thousand years, not several billion. ;)

[adbasque]

How? Thousands, yes, but not billions. Humans haven't existed that long.
I appreciate there may be a teensy weensy bit of hyperbole in there, but that's going a bit far. ;)

The Mayan civilisation is thought to have existed from 2000BC up until the Spanish conquistadors destroyed it in the 17th century.

The calendar does predate the Mayans - but by a couple of thousand years, not several billion. ;)

Humans have been on this earth no longer than 12 000 years max.
sometimes you hear those bleeding scientists trying to prove that we've existed in hundreds of 1000s of years.

Bull

[margaretr]

How? Thousands, yes, but not billions. Humans haven't existed that long.
I appreciate there may be a teensy weensy bit of hyperbole in there, but that's going a bit far. ;)

The Mayan civilisation is thought to have existed from 2000BC up until the Spanish conquistadors destroyed it in the 17th century.

The calendar does predate the Mayans - but by a couple of thousand years, not several billion. ;)
The technology for the calendar was allegedly provided by an ET
For a greater insight into the Mayan calendar there are several videos on this site
http://mayanmajix.com/lab_F1.html
(Videos accessible by scrolling the left side)
Well worth watching

[adbasque]

It is due in 2010 but will last only 6 months
according to the Mayan calendar - which incidentally has been right in forecasting for several billion years

The mayan calendar did not predict anything, absolutely nothing, it simply stops at 2012, that doesn't mean the world will stop in 2012.

If anything the NWO are trying to use it, against us ;)

they want their plan to be completed by 2012, latest 2014.

[geezer661]

we had a stock market crash in 1904 10 years later we had the first world war. We then had a crash in 1929 ten years later we had WW2. We have now had a stock market crash in 2008 so look towards 2018

[dreamweaver]

we had a stock market crash in 1904 10 years later we had the first world war. We then had a crash in 1929 ten years later we had WW2. We have now had a stock market crash in 2008 so look towards 2018

It'll probably come sooner than that, dude. Arguably we're already in the opening stages of it - it just needs something to kick off again in the Middle East (e.g. an Israeli attack on Iran's nuke facilities) or China invading Taiwan and then the shit will really hit the fan.

[adbasque]

I believe it will start sooner than we think, I hope I am wrong
They need to provide the solution

in order to provide the solution first they have to create a chaos, a big problem, where people will be scared to death, and will accept their solution of world government.

I am certain the III world war will start either this year or net year 2010

However I sincerely hope I am wrong, because a lot of innocent will perish