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logic bomb
28-10-2008, 10:57 PM
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article5006025.ece?Submitted=true

From The Sunday Times
October 26, 2008

The problem with the internet, as we all know, is that it gives free rein to loonies. Once upon a time, green inkers would rant away on writing paper, seal their 30-page global conspiracy theory into a recycled envelope and post it to a newspaper, which would drop it harmlessly into a wastepaper basket. Now they infiltrate chat rooms, scrawl anonymous abuse in web discussions and even have their own video blogs.

Sometimes this is entertaining; sometimes it can be offensive. So Microsoft has just been awarded a patent for technology designed to automatically detect and remove “undesired words or phrases” from all manner of digital communications, ranging from YouTube broadcasts to internet chat and songs.

The patent describes a system that listens out for phonemes (word fragments) likely to be part of a swearword. If it thinks it hears a forbidden phrase, the software either fades out the offending syllables or simply replaces the rude word with a similar-sounding but clean alternative lifted from earlier speech without a second’s delay.

With Microsoft’s software put in place by parents, children could listen to the most explicit rap music and hear nothing stronger than “gosh darn mother flippers”. Theoretically, the software could monitor thousands of digital TV broadcasts, radio stations and web chats simultaneously.

That’s all to the good, as long as the targets are “trolls” (internet slang for people whose aim is to disrupt the web community). There’s a danger, though, that it could go too far. Who’s to say that an overzealous Microsoft employee might not accidentally on purpose blacklist the names of rivals such as Apple and Linux?

Worse, there are governments around the world that would probably go further still, suppressing dissent not with guns and clubs but by preventing people from even discussing concepts such as “protest” or “freedom”. And that, I’m sure you’ll agree, is a freaking scary idea.

krakhead
28-10-2008, 11:04 PM
:eek:

logic bomb
28-10-2008, 11:05 PM
:eek:

Looks like we're out of a job.

krakhead
28-10-2008, 11:06 PM
Looks like we're out of a job.

LMAO! Shit!! :(

strt
28-10-2008, 11:07 PM
LMAO! Shit!! :(

... and robot will edit your post to 'LMAO! Fit!!' :D

tylerstoast
28-10-2008, 11:20 PM
Imho, used properly its a great tool - used badly (or for the forces of evil :D) and imposed everywhere, it would be atrocious.

Imagine if someone said lets create some filtering software to analyse email content and help a user filter spam.. That would be a good idea but subject to the same possible negative reaction.

I bet no-one here wants to give up their spam filter, or anti virus, or firewall.

Technology isnt good or evil (unless its a decepticon :D) its how its used

And there will always be a way to flirt around it - as you are all aware of

How many times have you cursed your spam filter, anti virus or firewall :D

And you mods wont lose your jobs, the software is never gonna replace a good ban-hammer weilder ;)

But in all seriousness, toys like that when abused would not make the net the fun and imaginative place it can be and will hopefully continue to be.

and justice for all
28-10-2008, 11:21 PM
...The problem with the internet, as we all know, is that it gives free rein to loonies. Once upon a time, green inkers would rant away on writing paper, seal their 30-page global conspiracy theory into a recycled envelope and post it to a newspaper, which would drop it harmlessly into a wastepaper basket. [...]

If is not printed/aired/reported... it never happened.
In the words of Harold Pinter: "Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening, it wasn't happening. It didn't matter. It was of no interest."

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dangermouse
29-10-2008, 01:39 AM
not happy about robot moderators :eek: oops .. off to the rant room

graflok
29-10-2008, 03:40 AM
What happens when the robot mods meet the robot trolls?

jennf
29-10-2008, 04:08 AM
Lol!, not :D:eek:

On a website i'm on i've sometimes wondered how someone could answer so quick, or leave it just long enough to watch and answer a vid and give a response so quick! I have been thinking that whoever it is, is not a person:eek:

wazaaap
29-10-2008, 08:11 AM
We will just then take to the streets, lets see them deal with that.

All of these people whom sit behind the keyboard getting there daly fix if anti NWO stuff will go cold turkey.

They will then have to go out of the house and actually see this is not just a game. they will then revolt.

It is the way of the world.

Plug a hole and it will find another place to escape!

jojo
29-10-2008, 08:24 AM
OMFG!

i thought it was only a matter of time before this happened. seems like we may not have much time left....

meet-ups will become more and more important!

Anders Lindman
29-10-2008, 08:31 AM
I think I will file for a patent that does the opposite: adding nasty words and phrases to lame and boring information. :D

raptorialis
29-10-2008, 12:53 PM
fear not, for when the oppressor bots come...................

WE SHALL MOVE TO ANOTHER PLACE
WE SHALL DEVELOP NEW LANGUAGES
WE SHALL OVERCOME OPPRESSION
AS A HERD OF BUFFALOS WOULD OVERCOME A RAT

http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/northamerica/after1500/environment/pictures/buffaloherd.jpg

duckingdafta
29-10-2008, 01:16 PM
this forum actually proves what is written isn't necessarily the post makers intentions. these bots might clever technology, but only a fellow human can feel what someone's intentions in text mean based on what they already know of that poster....and possibly their agenda, be it positive or negative. A few that actually think they are good at NLP aren't the same as those who give out disinformation though they have the same agendas IMO, they're just the watchers of a certain type of poster...more collectors of info. researchers.

should these bots have the powers to close sites down, then one decent attack on sites like this one from certain extremist religious groups or orders or opposing disinfo sites like unhived or even political/government parties all could cause it to be shut down.

raptorialis
29-10-2008, 01:42 PM
yes this all true Duck.

I think Microsoft must be losing their grip. Especially as they are patenting something that was being worked on the early 80's.

Beyond a certain range of thought, I'd put a human brain up against artificial intelligence any day.

I hope this isn't the level of intellect that MS have sunk too - thinking that they can produce bots to control human freedoms.

Computers might be able to play chess better than humans, but the human spirit is far more complex than a board game which is only built to process logical threads of movement.

Human beings are pathological creatures averse to manipulation, disease and mood swings. Try and moderate that - without a human moderator!!!

Why there would be a war on moderator robots that would render them obsolete in the first week of their introduction. It would probably take out most of the forums that implemented moderator bots.

:D

this forum actually proves what is written isn't necessarily the post makers intentions. these bots might clever technology, but only a fellow human can feel what someone's intentions in text mean based on what they already know of that poster....and possibly their agenda, be it positive or negative. A few that actually think they are good at NLP aren't the same as those who give out disinformation though they have the same agendas IMO, they're just the watchers of a certain type of poster...more collectors of info. researchers.

should these bots have the powers to close sites down, then one decent attack on sites like this one from certain extremist religious groups or orders or opposing disinfo sites like unhived or even political/government parties all could cause it to be shut down.