Mormons - Jehova Witnesses

[hagen]

Hi!

I read an interesting article from David about the Mormons and Jehova Witnesses (http://www.cephas-library.com/jw/jw_jw_lds_same_origin.html).

A lot of this information in this article is clear and I know about it. But there are some open questions and I am wondering if somebody from you can help me out? I am looking for sources for the following quotes from this article:

"Joseph Smith, along with Hiram Smith and Brigham Young...They were of the elite of the elite Illuminati bloodline, the Merovingian or "Holy Grail" line..."

"They were also Satanists and formed their "church" as a front for Satanic activity which very much still goes on today."

"The Mormon empire was funded into existence by the Rothschilds through their Kuhn, Loeb, bank.."

"Joseph Smith carried a dove medallion given to him by an English masonic lodge."

"...the bee symbol, a classic symbol of the Merovingian bloodine..."


Thank you very much!

Nice greetings

Hagen

P.S.: Can somebody please let me know where this article was originally published?

[eternal_spirit]

(Solomon's Temple built in honour of Yahweh aka Jehovah take away the vowels from Jehovah (also spelt Yehova) and your left with YHVH or YHWH which is Yahweh (it's a code of the priesthood and wasn't understood by the people of the time) They removed or added vowels/constanants.

[dedicate]

Hi, hagan. Unfortunately Icke gets a lot of things wrong. He tends to paint with a broad brush, especially when it concerns religion. He seems to have a deep dislike for religion when it moves beyond the personal relationship to the universe.. That is, once people start to share their findings and organize to make those findings known, he tends to discount that as CONTROL.

So you have to do your own research when it comes to these issues. For example.. even if an organizer has the illuminati bloodline, would that really matter absolutely? Could not a person who champions for freedom have an Great Great Grand parent that was say a prince of some European nation, but remain uneffected by such relationship? The conection to royalty aspect, may make sense in that those people may have had some wealth when settling in America and thus the free time to explore religion.?

My own research into Joseph Smith is that he was searching in his youth. He attended every church known to exist at that time. HE was searching for the correct religion and found that they all said they were the right and only one (sound familiar?). He knew there was something wrong there. Point is, it wouldn't surprise me that he attended Masonic meetings, too. But that doesn't mean he was a Mason specifically. But then again, maybe, he found that the Masons were the ONLY ONE who did not say they had all the answers, so he liked to hang around with them more than the others? Could be. George Washington did the same thing.

My own research has also determined that you can not judge the founding and founders of an organization poorly just by the current currupt condition of said organiziation. What we know of as the Mormon church today may have little to do with what Joseph Smith ever wanted.-- except in form only.

Welcome.. and I hope you have some insights into these organizations JW and LDS to share with the group.

PS. I might add that I've found what is said in this essay about the JW is probably true. It was founded on shaky ground and got progressively worse... This Rutherford person, wrote a book in 1912 that was titled: WHY MILLIONS LIVING NOW WILL NEVER DIE.. indicating that the Church would be raptured in his lifetime. Failed Prophet, but got some to follow. He also said that the 144,000 in the Apocalypse were the JW.. then much later when their #'s grew to over a million they had to change that theory.. Another failed prophecy.

The JW like to skirt this issue by telling you about some lame analogy of a hand having 5 fingers and the 1 hand is indestinguisable from the fingers but the fingers are independent and 1.

[eternal_spirit]

Mormonism.

The law of health—the Word of Wisdom—contains the laws for proper eating and the rules of abstinence for tobacco, alcohol, coffee, tea, chocolate, and illegal drugs. Mormons must choose foods that build up the body, improve endurance, and enhance intellect. Products from the land, such as grains, fruits, vegetables, and nuts, are to take the place of meats; meats, sugar, cheeses, and spices are to be avoided. Reason and self-control in eating is expected in order to stay healthy.

[tracker]

i have noticed that mormons and witnesses hate knowledge .
when they knock on my door i usually allow them in .
i use the bible to quote how logic and knowledge is allowed to be used to back up religion and mostly the repplies i get is this .
"yes but if god thought it was relevent he would have put it in the bible . gods love is simple and the knowledge to all you need to know is also simple which is why all these sciences and knowledge systems are not needed because gods love is simple , like the bible is simple to understand"

i usually tell them that my mind can be easily manipulated if it was simplistic and if it was i would not be able to tell if i was being manipulated . not only that , technicly love is not enough to servive catastrophies and bad times , in those times you need knowledge , and i dont agree with keeping folks minds empty of vital knowledge .

they usually leave shortly after this comment .
to me this seems typical of a mind control cult .:cool:

[armoured_amazon]

they usually leave shortly after this comment .
to me this seems typical of a mind control cult .:cool:

I agree.

[hagen]

Hi, hagan. Unfortunately Icke gets a lot of things wrong. He tends to paint with a broad brush, especially when it concerns religion. He seems to have a deep dislike for religion when it moves beyond the personal relationship to the universe.. That is, once people start to share their findings and organize to make those findings known, he tends to discount that as CONTROL.

So you have to do your own research when it comes to these issues. For example.. even if an organizer has the illuminati bloodline, would that really matter absolutely? Could not a person who champions for freedom have an Great Great Grand parent that was say a prince of some European nation, but remain uneffected by such relationship? The conection to royalty aspect, may make sense in that those people may have had some wealth when settling in America and thus the free time to explore religion.?

My own research into Joseph Smith is that he was searching in his youth. He attended every church known to exist at that time. HE was searching for the correct religion and found that they all said they were the right and only one (sound familiar?). He knew there was something wrong there. Point is, it wouldn't surprise me that he attended Masonic meetings, too. But that doesn't mean he was a Mason specifically. But then again, maybe, he found that the Masons were the ONLY ONE who did not say they had all the answers, so he liked to hang around with them more than the others? Could be. George Washington did the same thing.

My own research has also determined that you can not judge the founding and founders of an organization poorly just by the current currupt condition of said organiziation. What we know of as the Mormon church today may have little to do with what Joseph Smith ever wanted.-- except in form only.



Hi dedicate!

Thank you very much for your message. I totally agree with a lot of your opinions! :)

[hagen]

Thank you very much also for the interesting postings from all from you!

[loderlive]

Unfortunately Icke gets a lot of things wrong. He tends to paint with a broad brush, especially when it concerns religion.

You come to put right what he gets wrong. I come to appreciate what he gets right.

[hagen]

My own research into Joseph Smith is that he was searching in his youth. He attended every church known to exist at that time. HE was searching for the correct religion and found that they all said they were the right and only one (sound familiar?). He knew there was something wrong there. Point is, it wouldn't surprise me that he attended Masonic meetings, too. But that doesn't mean he was a Mason specifically. But then again, maybe, he found that the Masons were the ONLY ONE who did not say they had all the answers, so he liked to hang around with them more than the others?

Do you have an idea why he copied the rituals?

My own research has also determined that you can not judge the founding and founders of an organization poorly just by the current currupt condition of said organiziation. What we know of as the Mormon church today may have little to do with what Joseph Smith ever wanted.-- except in form only.

What exactly do you mean?

[eternal_spirit]

Do you have an idea why he copied the rituals?



What exactly do you mean?

Jehova is Yahweh (Yahweh is a God Judaism) Freemasonry's rituals and passwords came out of Judaism.

Freemasonry has long praised the Cabala, and its top officials have admitted that the Lodge’s rituals and teachings are but the offspring of the Jewish tradition. Albert Pike, former Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, wrote: "One is filled with admiration, on penetrating into the Sanctuary of the Cabala."
In 1855, the renowned Rabbi Isaac Wise wrote: "Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."
The Jewish Tribune newspaper, in 1927, in an editorial, stated: "Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?"
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/web/Articles/Article%20Images/cabalistic_star_of_david_richardsons.jpg In Richardson’s Monitor of Freemasonry (p. 64), this symbol is used to illustrate the Royal Arch Degree. Masonic literature is replete with examples of the Jewish Star of David and other Cabalistic tokens, symbols, emblems, and signs.
Ray Novosel, writing from Australia in 2004, states: "Zionist world leaders, men in influential positions with the various Masonic organizations everywhere, have worked ‘hand in glove’ for a universal world revolution, which will bring in the One World Church and a One World Government. Many Masonic Lodges are exclusively Jewish, as are the controlling B’nai B’rith Lodges—the mother of the infamous and very dangerous Anti-Defamation League (ADL)."
Albert Pike maintained that, "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." Pike also asserted that the true meanings of the mysterious and arcane symbols of Freemasonry are found in the occult philosophy of the Jewish Cabala, that Freemasonry owes all its secrets to the Cabala, and that Freemasonry is a religion based on the Cabala.
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0126.htm

[lostinstrangeworld]

I think Joseph Smith was influenced by alien entities, most likely Reptilian, disguising themselves as the angel Moroni and as Jesus.

The LDS church does HUGE research into genealogy; their data base is the largest in the world, as far as I am aware.

Perhaps this was the whole agenda behind it.

It just makes me sick, sick. :(


And the more I read, the more I am convinced.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/D...leContents.htm

http://www.evilbible.com/


Who can blame David Icke for despising religion?

Although the original message of Buddhism, I feel, is a very good one.
It may even be that the person who later became known as Jesus, went to study Buddhism in India....either that or he was a part of the agenda.....who knows. :confused: :(

[dedicate]

Hagan: -- What I mean is something we find true today,, all over the place. Very many organizations got their start doing good work, working for the benefit of people and the world, only later to be infiltrated and taken over by malevolent forces. The list is endless.. Greenpeace, Red Cross, Sierra Club, Good Will, The United States of America, every major news outlet or news paper today, The UN,. All corruptions of what was originally built up. Vis a vis: One should not judge The Founding Fathers by the measure of Today's Congress. This most likely is true of the Mormon Church.

I happen to know personally that the group, The Rosicrucian Fellowship in Oceanside California has been totally taken over by Satanic followers. They do Satanic ceremonies, are editing some of the original teachings and publishing those. In no way was Max Heindel, the founder, an evil person, but now people can say he must have been.

This is called "co-opting", and it happens to every group that is not vigilant to prevent it. These forces infiltrating are very cleaver the way they take over to use to their ends.

Nearly every organization of any influence and power has been co-oped today.-- even if they are not infiltrated at the top, the orgainizion has to play to an evil system of laws and rules from the outside. So every major organization today is very suspect.

The Mormon church was probably co-opted a long time ago. Because I believe Joseph Smith was a true Prophet, and his Book is scripture. When and where the church was co-opted needs to be investigated. But most likey the LDS Church today was not what it was originally.

I'm not sure what ceremonies Joseph Smith initiated for the followers (other than Baptism, Communion, and Marriage etc.), and have little knowledge of Mormon ceremonies today and none of Masonic ceremonies. All I can say, is that just because they all use an altar, for example, this alone does not indicate something evil going on or collusion between the groups.

[dedicate]

You've got some really strange ideas there lostinastrangeworld. You know, who cares what may be true. Maybe it's all an illusion and nothing has ever happened. Maybe there is a Santa Clause. Maybe everybody is CIA on this board except me. Maybe we are all realy living in pods on a space ship and are only dreaming our lives. Maybe Baby took his lolly pop and wont give it back. You see what I'm saying about popping in on a thread with one or two sentences of no substance?


"Who can blame David Icke for despising religion?" -- really you can't blame D.I or anyone for being hateful about something or other. That is there perogative. Thing is, David is very influential and his ideas are repeated and taken as valid ideas by many people. I think he owes it to them to be accurate and truthful as possible.

Also, if he is found wrong about this one thing -- religion, then people will believe he is wrong about much or most of the other things he has to say.

[eternal_spirit]

I think Joseph Smith was influenced by alien entities, most likely Reptilian, disguising themselves as the angel Moroni and as Jesus.

The LDS church does HUGE research into genealogy; their data base is the largest in the world, as far as I am aware.

Perhaps this was the whole agenda behind it.



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40154

[loderlive]

really you can't blame D.I or anyone for being hateful about something or other.

I am love without something, is not hateful about something.

[eternal_spirit]

Strictly speaking, this ought to be rendered 'Yahweh,' which is familiar to modern readers in the erroneous form of 'Jehovah.' Were this a version intended for students of the original, there would be no hesitation whatever in printing 'Yahweh.'" (James Moffet's preface to his translation of the Bible)
http://www.truthseek.net/tp.gifThe Jehovah's Witnesses acknowledge that the name "Jehovah" is improper. Their book, "Let Your Name Be Sanctified" freely admits on pages 16 and 18 that Yahweh is the superior translation of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). This book has lately been withdrawn. However, in the preface of their "The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures," we find on page 23 the following admission:

Adonai Yahweh El Shaddai



Lord Yahweh God Almighty. For many years it was appropriate to say: "Well, we don't really know the correct and proper Name of God, as it has been lost, and we definitely don't know how to pronounce it." That is not true today, due to archeological finds, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a better concept of history, and understanding of scripture and the Hebrew language. The Jews, also, are more open in admitting why the Masoretes hid the Name of God, a Name too sacred -- they believed -- for even Jews to pronounce, let alone heathen dogs. When you combine the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of "Adonai," you get a name "that cannot be pronounced!" Not because it is too holy, but because it is literally impossible to pronounce (in English it has been transliterated as "Jehovah")
http://www.truthseek.net/Yahweh.html

[lostinstrangeworld]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40154

Indeed....I think the Mormons believe that "Elohim" is the name of God.

Interestingly, the author Wynn Free who co-authored "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce" with David Wilcock, believes he is the reincarnation of Joseph Smith, and that the Mormon Church was originally created by a group of beings known as the Elohim who had positive intentions....then later became infiltrated by the Illuminati.


However, when I have read the Bible or the Book of Mormon in the past, I don't feel spiritually uplifted by either of them. All of these types of scriptures seem to be imbued with hate, fear, wrath, judgment....which together spell MIND CONTROL. I think the worst thing of all is that one gets lured in, seduced by all the talk of love which if one thinks long enough about it (for themselves) they can see the bigger picture. Although I certainly don't claim to know it all....much to learn!
All the talk of love though, encoating so much evil....
seems to me like religion is used as a HONEY TRAP.
This is sick.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/D...leContents.htm

http://www.evilbible.com/

[hagen]

The Mormon church was probably co-opted a long time ago. Because I believe Joseph Smith was a true Prophet, and his Book is scripture. When and where the church was co-opted needs to be investigated.

Do you have some ideas on which criterias it is possible to indicate the co-opting? I could do then some investigation.

[hagen]

Has somebody any information who of the actual leaders of "The Church of Latter Day Saints" is part of the illuminati?

[lostinstrangeworld]

You've got some really strange ideas there lostinastrangeworld. You know, who cares what may be true. Maybe it's all an illusion and nothing has ever happened. Maybe there is a Santa Clause. Maybe everybody is CIA on this board except me. Maybe we are all realy living in pods on a space ship and are only dreaming our lives. Maybe Baby took his lolly pop and wont give it back. You see what I'm saying about popping in on a thread with one or two sentences of no substance?


"Who can blame David Icke for despising religion?" -- really you can't blame D.I or anyone for being hateful about something or other. That is there perogative. Thing is, David is very influential and his ideas are repeated and taken as valid ideas by many people. I think he owes it to them to be accurate and truthful as possible.

Also, if he is found wrong about this one thing -- religion, then people will believe he is wrong about much or most of the other things he has to say.

Strange ideas?

Well, they aren't my ideas, they are simply testimonies gathered from mind control victims and such. The reptilians apparently, are very interested in DNA and bloodlines because they view people simply as a resource for them.

Now, I don't personally know whether reptilians exist or how much of it is true, all anyone can do is keep an open mind and keep searching for answers.

Yeah, it does sound bloody weird the idea of shapeshifting reptilians. I'm not too sure about it myself; I lean more towards the idea that a person under demonic possession may have a reptilian form slightly superimposed over them (I think demons can take any form). I think most likely there are people who practice disgusting, ancient blood rituals. They may or may not be human. But just because something sounds weird, doesn't make it not possible. Is it possible? Of course!


Now, I don't hate all religions, only the ones that encourage fear, judgmentality and hatred.

The old testament was a depraved bloodbath for the most part (brought about by a depraved, false "god"); just read the links I gave earlier and this becomes as clear as daylight.

[hagen]

http://www.conspiracyworld.com/web/Articles/Article%20Images/cabalistic_star_of_david_richardsons.jpg In Richardson’s Monitor of Freemasonry (p. 64), this symbol is used to illustrate the Royal Arch Degree. Masonic literature is replete with examples of the Jewish Star of David and other Cabalistic tokens, symbols, emblems, and signs.



Thank you for the hint to this book. I have ordered it! :)

[hagen]

Do you have some ideas on which criterias it is possible to indicate the co-opting? I could do then some investigation.

Or maybe somebody else? :confused:

[hagen]

When Joseph Smith was a freemason, why he was persued by the government and at the end of his life murdered?

:confused:

[hagen]

Here I have found some interesting information:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Temple_endowment_and_Freemasonry

[eternal_spirit]

This is where Charles Taze Russell, 33rd Degree Freemason and founder of the Jehovah's (Yahweh) Witnesses cult is buried.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3777/russelltomb3vf1.jpg


Charles Russell even gave a sermon in which he stated that Jesus Christ was the "Grand Master" of this Order to which Russell and the rest of the Jehovah's Witnesses belonged! He stated:

"...the Lord Jesus, the grand and everlasting Head and Master of this Order...the Grand Master....We are not hindered from telling the ultimate purposes of this grand Secret Order which our Lord organized..."

But this tactic of trying to make Jesus Christ of Nazareth the head of a Secret Order devoted to the occult is nothing new. Adam Weishaupt states exactly the same thing about his Secret Order of the Illuminati, which is devoted to the occult:

"Jesus of Nazareth, the Grand Master of our Order, appeared at a time when the world was in the utmost disorder...he took in the aid of Religion...and, in a very clever manner, he combined his secret doctrines with the popular religion...and they have been handed down to us...by the Free Masons."

So there is very little difference seen between the "Order" or the Jehovah's Witnesses church that Russell founded, and the Order which Weishaupt founded for the purpose of bringing in and ruling a New Age. In fact Russell frequently talked about this New Age--calling it a "Golden Age" to come. He preached a sermon on it entitled "Must We Abandon Hope of a Golden Age." He even established a paper called The Golden Age which is now called Awake.

But is this teaching of the "Golden Age to come" exclusively Charles Russell's and the Jehovah's Witnesses? No!

"...the 17,500 [Masonic] lodges of the U.S. and Canada...are to act as harbingers of that 'New Order of the Ages,' that Great Golden Age that is to come...May the Masonic Order become reoriented to make its peculiar contribution to that Glorious Objective."

But this hope of a "Golden Age to come" does not originate with the Masons either. It is an ancient Egyptian and Babylonian term specifying the time which "men and gods could live together happily." Hence we see that this great push towards a New World Order for the Ages, is nothing more than the ancient Plan for a One World System.

But these occultic and spiritualistic teachings of Russell's did not pass away when he died, but continue within the church of Jehovah's Witnesses. The church teaches the New Age belief that "Now we are in the end of this gospel age, and the kingdom [of Christ] is being established or set up." That this kingdom "will obtain full, universal control...in the earth, [and that] He whose right it is thus to take dominion will then be present as earth's new Ruler" who will reign over "the new order of things on earth" in "His millennial kingdom."

They even teach that:

"...our minds [must be made] over so as to transform our lives in expectation of the approaching new world.... "Let us keep our minds new...[and then if] we live through this old world's complete end, we shall enter the new world with a mind made over...in tune with the glorious new world."

In fact they claim that the Society of Jehovah's Witnesses is "the New World society"! This society, ever since the days of Russell, is also involved in Pyramidology or the study of its geometric shape and measurements in order to predict future events. They even claim that it was the God of heaven that designed the pyramid!

"In the passages of the Great Pyramid [Cheops] of Giza...[when the measurements are combined with chronology] proves that the same God designed both pyramid and plan..."

But did God have anything to do with the plan or design of the Great Pyramids? No. Masonic leader Manly P. Hall writes:

"[To] the Egyptians the Great Pyramid was associated with Hermes, the god of wisdom and letters and the Divine Illuminator...the pyramid...was in reality the supreme temple of the Invisible and Supreme Deity....the first temple of the Mysteries, the first structure erected as a repository for those secret truths... "Through the mystic passageways and chambers of the Great Pyramid passed the illumined of antiquity. They entered its portals as men; they came forth as gods. It was the place of the 'second birth,' the 'womb of the Mysteries,' and ...Somewhere in the depths of its recesses there resided an unknown being who was called 'The Initiator,' or 'The Illustrious One..."

This "Initiator" into the Mysteries we know to be Lucifer, or Satan. So you can see that Jehovah's Witnesses are clearly involved with the teachings of Masonry, and hence the spiritualistic Luciferic doctrines of ancient Babylon.


What of our time? On Friday morning, October 2, 1914, Charles Taze Russell, who took the lead at that time among the Bible Students, strode into the dining room at Bethel in Brooklyn, New York. "Good morning, all," he said cheerily. Then, before taking his seat, he joyfully announced: "The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day." Once again, the time had come for Jehovah, the Sovereign of the universe, to act in behalf of his people. And act he did!

[eternal_spirit]

When Joseph Smith was a freemason, why he was persued by the government and at the end of his life murdered?

:confused:

Don't know never heard that story

[lostinstrangeworld]

I thought he was shot by a mob...fanatics maybe.

[hagen]

I thought he was shot by a mob...fanatics maybe.

Yes, right. He was murdered by a mob. I thought that maybe this negative attidude of the mob was encouraged of the pursuit from the government.

(please excuse my imperfect English).

[hagen]

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But did God have anything to do with the plan or design of the Great Pyramids? No. Masonic leader Manly P. Hall writes:

"[To] the Egyptians the Great Pyramid was associated with Hermes, the god of wisdom and letters and the Divine Illuminator...the pyramid...was in reality the supreme temple of the Invisible and Supreme Deity....the first temple of the Mysteries, the first structure erected as a repository for those secret truths... "Through the mystic passageways and chambers of the Great Pyramid passed the illumined of antiquity. They entered its portals as men; they came forth as gods. It was the place of the 'second birth,' the 'womb of the Mysteries,' and ...Somewhere in the depths of its recesses there resided an unknown being who was called 'The Initiator,' or 'The Illustrious One..."

This "Initiator" into the Mysteries we know to be Lucifer, or Satan. So you can see that Jehovah's Witnesses are clearly involved with the teachings of Masonry, and hence the spiritualistic Luciferic doctrines of ancient Babylon.





Thank you very much for this interesting article. Can you recommend some books about this topic to deepen my understanding about it?

[eternal_spirit]

Thank you very much for this interesting article. Can you recommend some books about this topic to deepen my understanding about it?

Some of those quotes are from

here take your pick

I know it says google but it's actually scroogle search engine gives you the same results as google but doen's store as many details if any about your searchers
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

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www.eaec.org/expose/FritzSpringmeier1.htm

10. Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science and Freemasonry (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/jws_christian_science.htm)

"... by Fritz Springmeier. What about the Church of Jehovah's Witnesses? ... Masonic Symbolism within the Cults of Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Science ..."
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/jws_christian_science.htm

11. Charles Taze Russell - Jehovah's Witnesses not "begun" by Russell (http://clearblogs.com/ctr/92574/)

"17 Jan 2008 ... Although they were not called Jehovah’s Witnesses until 1931, ... Fritz Springmeier · Jehovah's Witnesses · Jesus and His God Blog ..."
clearblogs.com/ctr/92574/

12. Jehovah's Witness Online - Jehovah's Witness Discussion • View ... (http://www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/%7Ejwonline/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=23759)

"This is where topics regarding Jehovah's Witness news should go. ... But the claim made by Fritz Springmeier is not easily dismissed because of the DATE ..."
www.jehovahswitnessonline.com/~jwonline/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=23759

13. Jehovah's Witnesses: Watchtower Society Official Web Site (http://www.watchtower.cc/binkyclowner.html)

"The Jewish Masonic Financing of the Jehovah’s Witnesses JEHOVAH Exposed - A Kabbalist Creation · Fritz Springmeier Names Jews as Top of the Illuminati Power ..."
www.watchtower.cc/binkyclowner.html

14. Tomfolio.com Category: Religion: Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses (http://www.tomfolio.com/bookssub.asp?subid=776)

"Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah's Witnesses Publisher: Eugene 1993. ... Springmeier, Fritz The Watchtower & The Masons · Picture ..."
www.tomfolio.com/bookssub.asp?subid=776

15. Facts You Should Know About the Jehovah's Witnesses (http://www.cephas-library.com/jw_facts.html)

"Jehovah's Witnesses, however deny or twist many of the Bible's basic teachings, .... Fritz Springmeier, The Watchtower & The Masons, (1990) p.11. 3. Rev. ..."
www.cephas-library.com/jw_facts.html

16. Does anyone have solid facts that the founder of Jehovah's ... (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080215235146AALv2Wy)

"Fritz Springmeier in his book The Watchtower and the Masons presents a ..... Not Jehovah's Witness - but Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormons was a failed ..."
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080215235146AALv2Wy

17. Fritz Springmeier (deleted 09 Mar 2008 at 00:58) - Deletionpedia (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Fritz_Springmeier)

"Fritz Springmeier is an American religious author and lecturer. ... the Masons focuses on the relationship between Jehovah's Witnesses and Freemasonry. ..."
deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Fritz_Springmeier

18. Fritz Springmeier - Bloodlines Of The Illuminati ... (http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/Fritz-Springmeier-Bloodlines-Of-The-Illuminati-t16247.html)

"Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler - Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula ... who secretly founded false religions such as the Jehovah's Witnesses; ..."
www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/Fritz-Springmeier-Bloodlines-Of-The-Illuminati-t16247.html

19. Obedient Slaves - Jehovah's Witnesses (http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/pitcairn/1421/slaves-eng.htm)

"Instead, the average Jehovah's Witness believes that (s)he must "come to Jehovah's ...... 6) The Watchtower and the Masons, by Fritz Springmeier ..."
www.fortunecity.com/marina/pitcairn/1421/slaves-eng.htm

20. Fritz Springmeier - WikiProtest ~ The Wiki of the Revolution (http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php?title=Fritz_Springmeier)

"Fritz Springmeier is a Conspiracy Theorist. He has written at least 13 books. His early work focused on the relationship between Jehovah's Witnesses and ..."
www.wikiprotest.com/index.php?title=Fritz_Springmeier

[hagen]

What do the Illuminati belief? Is this then the "true" religion?

[hagen]

What do the Illuminati belief? Is this then the "true" religion?

Anybody an idea?