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mynameis
23-05-2007, 02:51 AM
The Man Who Would Be King

“One of the men opens a black hair bag and I slips the crown on. It was too small and too heavy, but I wore it for the glory. Hammered gold it was — five pound weight, like a hoop of a barrel.

“‘Peachey,’ says Dravot, ‘we don’t want to fight no more. The Craft’s the trick so help me!’ and he brings forward that same Chief that I left at Bashkai — Billy Fish we called him afterwards, because he was so like Billy Fish that drove the big tank-engine at Mach on the Bolan in the old days. ‘Shake hands with him,’ says Dravot, and I shook hands and nearly dropped, for Billy Fish gave me the Grip. I said nothing, but tried him with the Fellow Craft Grip. He answers, all right, and I tried the Master’s Grip, but that was a slip. ‘A Fellow Craft he is!’ I says to Dan. ‘Does he know the word?’ ‘He does,’ says Dan, ‘and all the priests know. It’s a miracle! The Chiefs and the priest can work a Fellow Craft Lodge in a way that’s very like ours, and they’ve cut the marks on the rocks, but they don’t know the Third Degree, and they’ve come to find out. It’s Gord’s Truth. I’ve known these long years that the Afghans knew up to the Fellow Craft Degree, but this is a miracle. A god and a Grand-Master of the Craft am I, and a Lodge in the Third Degree I will open, and we’ll raise the head priests and the Chiefs of the villages.’

“‘It’s against all the law,’ I says, ‘holding a Lodge without warrant from any one; and we never held office in any Lodge.’

“‘It’s a master-stroke of policy,’ says Dravot. ‘It means running the country as easy as a four-wheeled bogy on a down grade. We can’t stop to inquire now, or they’ll turn against us. I’ve forty Chiefs at my heel, and passed and raised according to their merit they shall be. Billet these men on the villages and see that we run up a Lodge of some kind. The temple of Imbra will do for the Lodge-room. The women must make aprons as you show them. I’ll hold a levee of Chiefs tonight and Lodge to-morrow.’

“I was fair rim off my legs, but I wasn’t such a fool as not to see what a pull this Craft business gave us. I showed the priests’ families how to make aprons of the degrees, but for Dravot’s apron the blue border and marks was made of turquoise lumps on white hide, not cloth. We took a great square stone in the temple for the Master’s chair, and little stones for the officers’ chairs, and painted the black pavement with white squares, and did what we could to make things regular.

“At the levee which was held that night on the hillside with big bonfires, Dravot gives out that him and me were gods and sons of Alexander, and Past Grand-Masters in the Craft, and was come to make Kafiristan a country where every man should eat in peace and drink in quiet, and specially obey us. Then the Chiefs come round to shake hands, and they was so hairy and white and fair it was just shaking hands with old friends. We gave them names according as they was like men we had known in India — Billy Fish, Holly Dilworth, Pikky Kergan that was Bazar-master when I was at Mhow, and so on, and so on.

“The most amazing miracle was at Lodge next night. One of the old priests was watching us continuous, and I felt uneasy, for I knew we’d have to fudge the Ritual, and I didn’t know what the men knew. The old priest was a stranger come in from beyond the village of Bashkai. The minute Dravot puts on the Master’s apron that the girls had made for him, the priest fetches a whoop and a howl, and tries to overturn the stone that Dravot was sitting on. ‘It’s all up now,’ I says. ‘That comes of meddling with the Craft without warrant!’ Dravot never winked an eye, not when ten priests took and tilted over the Grand-Master’s chair — which was to say the stone of Imbra. The priest begins rubbing the bottom end of it to clear away the black dirt, and presently he shows all the other priests the Master’s Mark, same as was on Dravot’s apron, cut into the stone. Not even the priests of the temple of Imbra knew it was there. The old chap falls flat on his face at Dravot’s feet and kisses ’em. ‘Luck again,’ says Dravot, across the Lodge to me, ‘they say it’s the missing Mark that no one could understand the why of. We’re more than safe now.’ Then he bangs the butt of his gun for a gavel and says:— ‘By virtue of the authority vested in me by my own right hand and the help of Peachey, I declare myself Grand-Master of all Freemasonry in Kafiristan in this the Mother Lodge o’ the country, and King of Kafiristan equally with Peachey!’ At that he puts on his crown and I puts on mine — I was doing Senior Warden — and we opens the Lodge in most ample form. It was a amazing miracle! The priests moved in Lodge through the first two degrees almost without telling, as if the memory was coming back to them. After that, Peachey and Dravot raised such as was worthy — high priests and Chiefs of far-off villages. Billy Fish was the first, and I can tell you we scared the soul out of him. It was not in any way according to Ritual, but it served our turn. We didn’t raise more than ten of the biggest men because we didn’t want to make the Degree common. And they was clamoring to be raised.

“‘In another six months,’ says Dravot, ‘we’ll hold another Communication and see how you are working.’ Then he asks them about their villages, and learns that they was fighting one against the other and were fair sick and tired of it. And when they wasn’t doing that they was fighting with the Mohammedans. ‘You can fight those when they come into our country,’ says Dravot. ‘Tell off every tenth man of your tribes for a Frontier guard, and send two hundred at a time to this valley to be drilled. Nobody is going to be shot or speared any more so long as he does well, and I know that you won’t cheat me because you’re white people — sons of Alexander — and not like common, black Mohammedans. You are my people and by God,’ says he, running off into English at the end — ‘I’ll make a damned fine Nation of you, or I’ll die in the making!’

“I can’t tell all we did for the next six months because Dravot did a lot I couldn’t see the hang of, and he learned their lingo in a way I never could. My work was to help the people plough, and now and again to go out with some of the Army and see what the other villages were doing, and make ’em throw rope-bridges across the ravines which cut up the country horrid. Dravot was very kind to me, but when he walked up and down in the pine wood pulling that bloody red beard of his with both fists I knew he was thinking plans I could not advise him about, and I just waited for orders.

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“But getting a wife was not as easy as Dan thought. He put it before the Council, and there was no answer till Billy Fish said that he’d better ask the girls. Dravot damned them all round. ‘What’s wrong with me?’ he shouts, standing by the idol Imbra. ‘Am I a dog or am I not enough of a man for your wenches? Haven’t I put the shadow of my hand over this country? Who stopped the last Afghan raid?’ It was me really, but Dravot was too angry to remember. ‘Who bought your guns? Who repaired the bridges? Who’s the Grand-Master of the sign cut in the stone?’ and he thumped his hand on the block that he used to sit on in Lodge, and at Council, which opened like Lodge always. Billy Fish said nothing and no more did the others. ‘Keep your hair on, Dan,’ said I; ‘and ask the girls. That’s how it’s done at home, and these people are quite English.’

“‘The marriage of a King is a matter of State,’ says Dan, in a white-hot rage, for he could feel, I hope, that he was going against his better mind. He walked out of the Council-room, and the others sat still, looking at the ground.

“‘Billy Fish,’ says I to the Chief of Bashkai, ‘what’s the difficulty here? A straight answer to a true friend.’ ‘You know,’ says Billy Fish. ‘How should a man tell you who know everything? How can daughters of men marry gods or devils? It’s not proper.’

“I remembered something like that in the Bible; but if, after seeing us as long as they had, they still believed we were gods it wasn’t for me to undeceive them.

“‘A god can do anything,’ says I. ‘If the King is fond of a girl he’ll not let her die.’ ‘She’ll have to,’ said Billy Fish. ‘There are all sorts of gods and devils in these mountains, and now and again a girl marries one of them and isn’t seen any more. Besides, you two know the Mark cut in the stone. Only the gods know that. We thought you were men till you showed the sign of the Master.’

“‘I wished then that we had explained about the loss of the genuine secrets of a Master-Mason at the first go-off; but I said nothing. All that night there was a blowing of horns in a little dark temple half-way down the hill, and I heard a girl crying fit to die. One of the priests told us that she was being prepared to marry the King.

“‘I’ll have no nonsense of that kind,’ says Dan. ‘I don’t want to interfere with your customs, but I’ll take my own wife. ‘The girl’s a little bit afraid,’ says the priest. ‘She thinks she’s going to die, and they are a-heartening of her up down in the temple.’

Addenum: From John Houston's Filmmaking by Lesley Brill Pg. 37.

"For Danny and Preachy, Freemasonry provides social placement comparable to what religion, trade, and art give indigenous people or British culture gives colonial bureaucrats. When Peachy steals Kipling's watch at the train station, he identifies as little with his own countryman as with the natives. But having discovered that he has robbed a fellow Mason, he takes great pains to undo th theft. As he restores the watch, he claims a bond with his fellow in "the craft." Kipling, in turn, agrees to set aside his own plans in order to deliver Peachy's message, "For the sake of the widow's son." To a skeptical official later, Kipling will explain that Freemasonry is "an ancient order dedicated to the brotherhood of man under the all-seeing eye of God...Once a Mason, always a Mason.""


“‘I’ll have no nonsense of that kind,’ says Dan. ‘I don’t want to interfere with your customs, but I’ll take my own wife. ‘The girl’s a little bit afraid,’ says the priest. ‘She thinks she’s going to die, and they are a-heartening of her up down in the temple.’

Addenum: From John Houston's Filmmaking by Lesley Brill Pg. 37.

"For Danny and Preachy, Freemasonry provides social placement comparable to what religion, trade, and art give indigenous people or British culture gives colonial bureaucrats. When Peachy steals Kipling's watch at the train station, he identifies as little with his own countryman as with the natives. But having discovered that he has robbed a fellow Mason, he takes great pains to undo th theft. As he restores the watch, he claims a bond with his fellow in "the craft." Kipling, in turn, agrees to set aside his own plans in order to deliver Peachy's message, "For the sake of the widow's son." To a skeptical official later, Kipling will explain that Freemasonry is "an ancient order dedicated to the brotherhood of man under the all-seeing eye of God...Once a Mason, always a Mason."

Fraternal connections figure heavily in the success that Danny and Peachy find in Kafiristan. "Wish us luck," says Peachy in response to Kipling's entreaties to give up their suicidal mission, "We met upon the level..." "...and we're passing on the square (Square: Miter Board Cap). Good Luck, indeed," replies Kipling. Reminded of their brotherhood, Kipling gives Danny his Masonic watch-chain token, which will save his life. When the high priest of Sikandergul opens Danny's tunic and prepares to stab him to test his godhead, he exposes Kipling's Masonic talisman, which duplicates the emblem left by Alexander (Alexander, The Great). Danny is thus confirmed as "Sikander's son," and accepted as ruler of the Kafirs and as immortal. "The craft, Danny, the craft - that's what saved us," exults Peachy.

Their salvation will be temporary, because Freemasonry is failed by Danny and Peachy. "Calm yourself, Brother Kipling," Danny says, "we've never taken advantage of a fellow in the craft." But they do take advantage of the priests of Sikandergul, whom they do not meet "on the the level" nor deal with "on the square (unequal in status)." They deceive and exploit their distant relations in Kafiristan, and fail to recognize them as part of the fellowship of man. As a result, they crash beneath the all-seeing eye of the highest of the local gods, Imbra - name that vaguely suggests the brotherhood that Danny and Peachy have betrayed.

As the iconography at the holy city of Sikandergul makes evident Freemasonry merges smoothly with religion. The incorporation of the Masonic "all-seeing eye" into the statues of Imbra emphasizes the connections. A man feigning divinity, Danny's robing is shown from a striking angle that at first dignifies him but that subsequent cinematography suggests to be an "Imbra's-eye view" of the proceedings. As Billy Fish difidently proposes later, "Imbra angry because son of man pretend to be a god." At the beginning of their masquerade, Danny prophetically voices doubts about his imposture: "The idea's a bit blasphemous, like.""

snoopsnuffleopagus
24-05-2007, 03:05 AM
Just a missive of gratitude for an excellent post. R Kipling was a wonderful writer. I am now motivated to read this novel, it has been a hole in my
'Not Read' list for far too long.

Thank you again!

mynameis
24-05-2007, 10:11 AM
I soon am going to watch TMWWBK, Gunga Din, and Zulu.

Also on this note:

This version of events could also be Masonic Propaganda.

synergy777
01-06-2007, 04:17 AM
http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm

IF.....


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

mynameis
06-11-2008, 04:30 PM
Bump...would any of the new chaps please weigh in on Kipling's observations of masons?

slartibartfast
06-11-2008, 04:42 PM
Try "The Mother Lodge" an excellent poem that demonstrates the brotherhood.

banoyes
06-11-2008, 04:43 PM
Bump...would any of the new chaps please weigh in on Kipling's observations of masons?

a post about a Freemason ( Rudyard Kipling )
by a guy who agrees with Freemasons 100% of the time and he asks for
Thoughts on Kipling
well
Gather round the fire boys
Let the BS start

mike martin
06-11-2008, 05:55 PM
Just because you don't want to admit that there have been normal generally positive people who have been Freemasons.

All you want is the people here to believe that it's Pike Pike Pike!

Mike

eastbeast
07-11-2008, 03:03 PM
Whether Kipling was or was not a Freemason is immaterial, he is generally acknowledged to have been an excellent writer.
His Poem 'IF' has inspired and does inspire so many.

It was prominantly displayed in large letters at Shotley where my step-father trained for the Royal Navy when he and his 'Ship-mates' were aged 14 and up. Now in his 60s he still remembers it word perfect.

Any time you need inspiration read the Poem and think about the words.

Anyway according to that fount of all knowledge banoyes the important thing here is to point out Kipling was a Freemason.

He also makes exceedingly good cakes.......

eastbeast
07-11-2008, 03:06 PM
Just because you don't want to admit that there have been normal generally positive people who have been Freemasons.

All you want is the people here to believe that it's Pike Pike Pike!

Mike

Not forgetting the usual diatribe 'Freemason bad'.

banoyes
07-11-2008, 03:14 PM
Whether Kipling was or was not a Freemason is immaterial, he is generally acknowledged to have been an excellent writer.
His Poem 'IF' has inspired and does inspire so many.

It was prominantly displayed in large letters at Shotley where my step-father trained for the Royal Navy when he and his 'Ship-mates' were aged 14 and up. Now in his 60s he still remembers it word perfect.

Any time you need inspiration read the Poem and think about the words.

Anyway according to that fount of all knowledge banoyes the important thing here is to point out Kipling was a Freemason.

He also makes exceedingly good cakes.......
"How could such a tiny small island hold so much of the world/" paraphrase D Icke
Being a Freemason is never "immaterial" just more of the "coincidence"
theory
Oh matters not ,it's immaterial chum
yah right

eastbeast
07-11-2008, 03:21 PM
"How could such a tiny small island hold so much of the world/" paraphrase D Icke

Easy. We killed a lot of people and stole their lands. 'We' were undoubtably all Freemasons, right down to the Ship's Cat.


Being a Freemason is never "immaterial" just more of the "coincidence"
theory
Oh matters not ,it's immaterial chum
yah right

Silly me, forgetting once again that to achieve anything in this World one has to be a Freemason.
Even more glad I joined now.

hirschfelder
07-11-2008, 03:23 PM
Now we're copy and pasting huge chunks of stories?

I suppose it is a great story, and a great film for that matter

It's not a novel, by the way

slartibartfast
07-11-2008, 03:34 PM
It's not a novel, by the way

You learn something everyday, thanks :)

banoyes
07-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Easy. We killed a lot of people and stole their lands. 'We' were undoubtably all Freemasons, right down to the Ship's Cat.
That's true,except the cat part,cats have more soul then Freemasons



Silly me, forgetting once again that to achieve anything in this World one has to be a Freemason.
Even more glad I joined now.

Must never had a look a who is in Freemasonry
How many Kings
How many Prime Ministers
how many high military
how many well placed politicans
and you confirm that the low ranked do know about the Agenda and fully agree with it
contrary to those who say the lower rank know nothing about the evils of the high plotters

slartibartfast
07-11-2008, 03:44 PM
How many Kings
How many Prime Ministers
how many high military
how many well placed politicans


How many of those people played golf?

eastbeast
07-11-2008, 03:46 PM
That's true,except the cat part,cats have more soul then Freemasons

Damn right, Cats have more soul than anyone or anything. They are the Uberanimals. Worship them for they are your Gods.



Must never had a look a who is in Freemasonry
How many Kings
How many Prime Ministers
how many high military
how many well placed politicans
and you confirm that the low ranked do know about the Agenda and fully agree with it
contrary to those who say the lower rank know nothing about the evils of the high plotters

WOW there IS an echo in here.........

eastbeast
07-11-2008, 03:47 PM
How many of those people played golf?

Only the Freemasons, Because non Masons can't get the time off work, and wouldn't be allowed on the course anyway because every Golf course owner is a Freemason.

banoyes
07-11-2008, 03:50 PM
How many of those people played golf?
It's all a coincidence
Thats all they have
There is no Agenda
There is only coincidence

mynameis
07-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Now we're copy and pasting huge chunks of stories?

I suppose it is a great story, and a great film for that matter

It's not a novel, by the way

Of course not. Kipling's fiction from this account is a short story.

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/8147

You find the material discussed in Kipling's fiction immaterial? I would have to disagree.

1977
10-11-2008, 04:14 AM
I was reading some of Kipling's travel writings and was caught rather off guard to find this account of Bohemian Grove! http://telelib.com/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose/FromSeaToSea/seatosea_XXIII.html

Next morning I had entered upon the Deferred Inheritance. There are no princes in America,—at least with crowns on their heads,—but a generous-minded member of some royal family received my letter of introduction. Ere the day closed I was a member of the two clubs and booked for many engagements to dinner and party. Now this prince, upon whose financial operations be continual increase, had no reason, nor had the others, his friends, to put himself out for the sake of one Briton more or less; but he rested not till he had accomplished all in my behalf that a mother could think of for her débutante daughter. Do you know the Bohemian Club of San Francisco? They say its fame extends over the world. It was created somewhat on the lines of the Savage by men who wrote or drew things, and it has blossomed into most unrepublican luxury. The ruler of the place is an owl—an owl standing upon a skull and crossbones, showing forth grimly the wisdom of the man of letters and the end of his hopes for immortality. The owl stands on the staircase, a statue four feet high, is carved in the woodwork, flutters on the frescoed ceilings, is stamped on the note-paper, and hangs on the walls. He is an Ancient and Honourable Bird. Under his wing ’twas my privilege to meet with white men whose lives were not chained down to routine of toil, who wrote magazine articles instead of reading them hurriedly in the pauses of office-work, who painted pictures instead of contenting themselves with cheap etchings picked up at a sale of another man’s effects. Mine were all the rights of social intercourse that India, stony-hearted stepmother of Collectors, has swindled us out of. Treading soft carpets and breathing the incense of superior cigars, I wandered from room to room studying the paintings in which the members of the club had caricatured themselves, their associates, and their aims. There was a slick French audacity about the workmanship of these men of toil unbending that went straight to the heart of the beholder. And yet it was not altogether French. A dry grimness of treatment, almost Dutch, marked the difference. The men painted as they spoke—with certainty. The club indulges in revelries which it calls ‘Jinks’—high and low,—at intervals,—and each of these gatherings is faithfully portrayed in oils by hands that know their business. In this club were no amateurs spoiling canvas because they fancied they could handle oils without knowledge of shadows or anatomy—no gentlemen of leisure ruining the temper of publishers and an already ruined market with attempts to write ‘because everybody writes something these days.’ My hosts were working, or had worked, for their daily bread with pen or paint, and their talk for the most part was of the shop shoppy—that is to say, delightful. They extended a large hand of welcome and were as brethren, and I did homage to the Owl and listened to their talk. An Indian Club about Christmas-time will yield, if properly worked, an abundant harvest of queer tales; but at a gathering of Americans from the uttermost ends of their own continent the tales are larger, thicker, more spinous, anal even more azure than any Indian variety. Tales of the War I heard told by an ex-officer of the South over his evening drink to a Colonel of the Northern army; my introducer, who had served as a trooper in the Northern Horse, throwing in emendations from time to time.

banoyes
10-11-2008, 06:19 AM
I was reading some of Kipling's travel writings and was caught rather off guard to find this account of Bohemian Grove! http://telelib.com/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose/FromSeaToSea/seatosea_XXIII.html
Missed one

and I did homage to the Owl
Homage to the owl .. Bohiemen Grove anyone???

slartibartfast
10-11-2008, 10:21 AM
Missed one

and I did homage to the Owl
Homage to the owl .. Bohiemen Grove anyone???

That is what 1977 said?