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jesuitsdidit
25-10-2008, 12:48 AM
btw i reckon the disinfo agents outnumber the innocent about 4 : 1 on this site IMO

kblood
25-10-2008, 12:53 AM
Hehe... I guess you think all who doesnt believe Jesuits are behind every plot in the world and own everything are disinfo?

The whole NWO thing is backed by a few people manipulating the many, so only a few know what is going on. If we had 4:1 disinfo agents, then the NWO or whoever certainly is wasting alot of money.

Do you seriously not believe Eric Phelps is not disinfo? I can understand your point of view though if you believe he isnt disinfo. Would be like someone believing in David Icke and everything he says going to a Freemasonry site. Well, almost anyway :)

xpleet
25-10-2008, 01:10 AM
Something has invaded this forum the last month, big time wether that be stupidity, negativity and/or agents, i think all of it.

I find it ridiculous how there are Masons desperately trying to defend themselves and argue with the people.

duckingdafta
25-10-2008, 01:12 AM
btw i reckon the disinfo agents outnumber the innocent about 4 : 1 on this site IMO

I would be careful not to mix the disinfo agents with those who think they know due to an opposing view. some may seem like disinfo 'agents' but you'll find the intellect level isn't enough to be a detergent agent..even when it is, it's copied from a wiki page or similar rather than a humans own words. I try speak for myself only then get corrected when wrong (too much in my bloody opinion! :eek:) this way I learn more. but I am also weary of those with definite answers as to me truthseeking and conspiracy research leads to questions not answers. we find the truth to define our own place in this life in a weird energy kind of way (sorry my beliefs are weird)

devanshoom
25-10-2008, 01:17 AM
I would be careful not to mix the disinfo agents with those who think they know due to an opposing view. some may seem like disinfo 'agents' but you'll find the intellect level isn't enough to be a detergent agent..even when it is, it's copied from a wiki page or similar rather than a humans own words. I try speak for myself only then get corrected when wrong (too much in my bloody opinion! :eek:) this way I learn more. but I am also weary of those with definite answers as to me truthseeking and conspiracy research leads to questions not answers. we find the truth to define our own place in this life in a weird energy kind of way (sorry my beliefs are weird)

i reckon duckingdafta is an agent....... Anyone that knows that "make a wheel into a flower pot" trick simply HAS to be more than they are letting on :D

duckingdafta
25-10-2008, 01:19 AM
i reckon duckingdafta is an agent....... Anyone that knows that "make a wheel into a flower pot" trick simply HAS to be more than they are letting on :D

I KNOW I am ... the trick is finding my agenda...which indecently I do have ;)
If it kills me, I will wake up the masses that you DO NOT NEED MONEY!

godspeed
25-10-2008, 01:23 AM
i'll nominate kblood as one lol :eek:im not an easy target so i dont care ha fuk the nwo....

helloperator
25-10-2008, 01:23 AM
btw i reckon the disinfo agents outnumber the innocent about 4 : 1 on this site IMO

Do you think they are actually paid disinfo agents...or do they just spread disinfo unwittingly?

duckingdafta
25-10-2008, 01:27 AM
Do you think they are actually paid disinfo agents...or do they just spread disinfo unwittingly?

very good point... if I might say so.
I think it is a good point as I have witnessed people on this site who work for something like the benefits agencies, at first i suspected they might be gathering info on those unemployed dossers online all day but later have seen the rules given out as to how unemployed SHOULD act...they don't know any different than their job training until here a while to work out there are other ways.

neville
25-10-2008, 01:51 AM
Hi xpleet,

Something has invaded this forum the last month, big time wether that be stupidity, negativity and/or agents, i think all of it.

I find it ridiculous how there are Masons desperately trying to defend themselves and argue with the people.

I havent had a terribly long History in these forums, I am however quiet experienced in forum participation in other arenas, even being now an Administrator on one,

One of the major factors I encounter is how it seems necessary to some to demonstrate that their thinking or view is correct at the expense of anothers view, This demonstrates clearly that some of the truths people cling to are on shakey ground to bigin with and need bolstering ... Then ofcourse there is the pre conditioned enslavement to ego(Which plays right into the hands of who we percieve to be pulling the strings in the human experience as it automatically prevents any great degree of unity establishing a half decent cohesiveness into anything like an opposition)...

Then ofcourse there is the deliberate sabateur or troll who simply wants to disrupt a decent forum, and in my experience some trolls are adept at playing the long game and slowly pick away at the fabric of a discussion group, all too often simply opposing what is being said for the sake of it. Dressing it up as reasoned counter argument..The only clue to this is that the individual in question will disagree with everything ,

I have had experience of discordian invasions my self in the past, I am sure that the staff here know their business and will presumably seek to keep this forum a safe and accessible site for discussion.

Kind regards Neville:)

london_lad_84
25-10-2008, 01:53 AM
btw i reckon the disinfo agents outnumber the innocent about 4 : 1 on this site IMO

Maybe your are a disinfo agent and the information you just posted is disinfo?

kblood
25-10-2008, 02:04 AM
Do you think they are actually paid disinfo agents...or do they just spread disinfo unwittingly?

To be a disinfo agent you would have to at least be doing it on purpose? Otherwise disinfo agent could be used about anything you dont believe in yourself. Kind of makes the meaning of disinfo agent rather meaningless. Would have to be an agent for someone. Which is why the 4:1 is ridiculous. Isnt more than 4:1 of the posters subscribed to this forum? I guess they dont mind donating lots of money to Icke then.

The fact that jesuitsdidit believes a guy like Phelps really makes me question his intelligence, but that he believes 4:1 is disinfo agents seems to prove that he is likely to fall for lies and disinfo himself. I have fallen for lots of disinfo and have probably spread some unwittingly myself, since there seems to be lots of it in this mix, but people doing it for money or at least knowingly, I think those are far in between. At most 1 in 10 on the forum could be disinfo agents, and I even think there is much less than that.

i'll nominate kblood as one lol :eek:im not an easy target so i dont care ha fuk the nwo....

:eek: *hides* :cool:

*sneakely logs into the many other accounts used to spread other kinds of disinfo*

hw spartan
25-10-2008, 02:13 AM
Something has invaded this forum the last month, big time wether that be stupidity, negativity and/or agents, i think all of it.

I find it ridiculous how there are Masons desperately trying to defend themselves and argue with the people.

to true , i find it funny also :)

amethyst
25-10-2008, 02:13 AM
You're definitely one of them with a name like yours.

damagedbrainn
25-10-2008, 02:18 AM
I may have brought this up before in the past (since there's a thread like this at least once a month), but there's a certain type of "situation" known in chat rooms, whereby chat rooms devoted to "lesbians" or "bi-curious women" end up becoming comprised mostly of men who are pretending to be a lesbian or a bi-woman just so that they can cyber with other women. It frequently turns out that these men only end up cybering with other men who are also pretending to be women.

I imagine that a forum being comprised mostly of "disinfo agents" would result in a similar outcome. One where you have disinfo agents attempting to dispense disinformation to other disinfo agents.

The absurdity of such a thing deserved a mention.

amethyst
25-10-2008, 02:24 AM
I may have brought this up before in the past (since there's a thread like this at least once a month), but there's a certain type of "situation" known in chat rooms, whereby chat rooms devoted to "lesbians" or "bi-curious women" end up becoming comprised mostly of men who are pretending to be a lesbian or a bi-woman just so that they can cyber with other women. It frequently turns out that these men only end up cybering with other men who are also pretending to be women.

I imagine that a forum being comprised mostly of "disinfo agents" would result in a similar outcome. One where you have disinfo agents attempting to dispense disinformation to other disinfo agents.

The absurdity of such a thing deserved a mention.

That's ironic....and funny too

checkmate
25-10-2008, 02:29 AM
I see so much paranoia on this site. Who cares if there are disinfo agents here. Use your brain and discern everything you read. If they instill that much fear then maybe you shouldn't be on a forum.

carlg1212
25-10-2008, 06:36 AM
Of course this site is infiltrated. Every institution eventually is.

It's somewhat dangerous being a Brit, though, isn't it? Aren't there laws against "thought crime"? Straight out of "1984"?

I think, though, that the feds would much rather us futilely type away on internet forums than actually stand up and fight.

carlg1212
25-10-2008, 06:42 AM
I may have brought this up before in the past (since there's a thread like this at least once a month), but there's a certain type of "situation" known in chat rooms, whereby chat rooms devoted to "lesbians" or "bi-curious women" end up becoming comprised mostly of men who are pretending to be a lesbian or a bi-woman just so that they can cyber with other women. It frequently turns out that these men only end up cybering with other men who are also pretending to be women.

I imagine that a forum being comprised mostly of "disinfo agents" would result in a similar outcome. One where you have disinfo agents attempting to dispense disinformation to other disinfo agents.

The absurdity of such a thing deserved a mention.

Most people know what a "double agent" is...it's a disinfo agent. Same thing.

It can be categorized as follows:

An agent is someone who pretends.
A double agent is someone who pretends while pretending.

Think about this: what if someone was pretending to pretend, while pretending? This would be a "triple agent", eh? Someone that, basically, spreads disinfo to the disinfo agents.

There may be those here, too.

lessgov2007
25-10-2008, 08:56 AM
I don't know about dis-info agents, but in my opinion paranoia has invaded the minds of many.

kblood
25-10-2008, 12:01 PM
I may have brought this up before in the past (since there's a thread like this at least once a month), but there's a certain type of "situation" known in chat rooms, whereby chat rooms devoted to "lesbians" or "bi-curious women" end up becoming comprised mostly of men who are pretending to be a lesbian or a bi-woman just so that they can cyber with other women. It frequently turns out that these men only end up cybering with other men who are also pretending to be women.

I imagine that a forum being comprised mostly of "disinfo agents" would result in a similar outcome. One where you have disinfo agents attempting to dispense disinformation to other disinfo agents.

The absurdity of such a thing deserved a mention.

Hehe, good point :)

helloperator
25-10-2008, 12:15 PM
Ok well if it is actual working paid disinfo agents then I would say there are zero on this site.

sidlittle
25-10-2008, 12:21 PM
Ok well if it is actual working paid disinfo agents then I would say there are zero on this site.


your naivety is wonderfully sweet. May I give you a little cuddle?

danster82
25-10-2008, 12:25 PM
Ive never been able to identify someone as disinfo I just see difference of opinion im not saying they dont exist but just give specifics if you think so, name, names.

for example I could say all the people posting about disinfo agents are disinfo agents because they create an atmosphere of separation and paranoia...

It just goes on and on and on..

If people dont have discernment then theres nothing you can do about it just evaluate yourself the same way you have to in all areas of life.

eternal_spirit
25-10-2008, 12:33 PM
Some good replys :) and LOL

Types of agents members get labeled as

Zionist, Jesuit, Mason, CIA, MI6, Police, Nazi, Government, Satanist, Fundamental religionist, Clergy, and probably more.

Only a few off the list I've not been accused of yet.

kblood
25-10-2008, 12:54 PM
I guess quite a few on this forum is Icke agents :)

And quite a few of the other agents might think Icke agents to be disinfo agents.

whatistruth
25-10-2008, 12:57 PM
all this infighting and the sole purpose of the agents, if there are any.


so even by me posting on this thread im falling for it/feeding into it. :mad:


:p

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 01:00 PM
Very hard to say what motivates disinfo agents on here, and it's not necessarily money.

Everyone has their own 'favourites' who hang around, and there's a lot of suspicious characters who come and go very quickly posting some pointedly anti-Icke material ('sex' subliminals on every image of David Icke and Alex Jones', anyone?).

The most effective disinfo/disrupters would be the ones who stick around, and aren't glaringly obvious.

Who knows if some people here have been programmed at some level to do this sort of work (unpaid and unaffiliated), but themselves think they're acting completely freely and just expressing their own opinions?

tracker
25-10-2008, 01:19 PM
I would be careful not to mix the disinfo agents with those who think they know due to an opposing view. some may seem like disinfo 'agents' but you'll find the intellect level isn't enough to be a detergent agent..even when it is, it's copied from a wiki page or similar rather than a humans own words. I try speak for myself only then get corrected when wrong (too much in my bloody opinion! :eek:) this way I learn more. but I am also weary of those with definite answers as to me truthseeking and conspiracy research leads to questions not answers. we find the truth to define our own place in this life in a weird energy kind of way (sorry my beliefs are weird)

this is true .
also , because beginners on research and many of the masses have been fead disinfo , from the disinfo world , it is natural that they will apply them self like disinfo agents but not mean to be like that .
this is because of the constant mind programming that is self evident in every day life .
it does take time to disconnect form the program .

but really ?
every one !
stickem up and dont move .
stand still and dont say a word .
this is a stick up .

( whilst i make a shifty shimmy to the exit behind me :D)

kblood
25-10-2008, 01:58 PM
I agree that they wouldnt have to be paid. Lets take all the masons on this forum. Im not really sure if they are disinfo agents, or they end up being it by saying something they believe is true although they have been lied to themselves or maybe its only partly true. Thats what I meant about many people on here being Icke agents. People who believe what he writes about, and I believe a good deal of it, becomes an Icke agent.

Still I would define a true "disinfo agent" as someone who is knowingly lying to others. Just telling your own perspective on the truth does not make a person a disinfo agent. Like jesuitsdidit who started this post, but is probably just wanting to see where it goes, he might believe Eric Phelps and repeat what Phelps say to others. It might be disinfo but it isnt to jesuitsdidit. Also it might be disinfo when I claim that Phelps is wrong about all his claims, but since I dont truly know wether he is wrong or wether he is knowingly lying about it I am not a disinfo agent in my view. Just confused by all the opposing stuff about it all.

The disinfo agents in my oppinion is therefore the sources of the disinfo, at least if these sources are truly doing it to manipulate and spread lies.

baron von lotsov
25-10-2008, 03:37 PM
i reckon duckingdafta is an agent....... Anyone that knows that "make a wheel into a flower pot" trick simply HAS to be more than they are letting on :D

He never learns from my posts.

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:01 PM
This thread is pure comedy genius!


The very idea that the ones we oppose would stoop as low as trying to talk us out of our way of thinking!!! For fuck sake, did you not read the bit that underlines just how sophisticated their methods of control are. Anybody that thinks they need to place 'disinfo agents' on this forum are nothing more than an example of just how fucking stupid we are next to the masterminds that are supposedly bending us over.

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 04:05 PM
This thread is pure comedy genius!


The very idea that the ones we oppose would stoop as low as trying to talk us out of our way of thinking!!! For fuck sake, did you not read the bit that underlines just how sophisticated their methods of control are. Anybody that thinks they need to place 'disinfo agents' on this forum are nothing more than an example of just how fucking stupid we are next to the masterminds that are supposedly bending us over.

Why wouldn't they use both 'sophisticated' methods and also more conventional methods like getting a few goons to fuck with people's heads and waste their energy arguing with them?

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:08 PM
Why wouldn't they use both 'sophisticated' methods and also more conventional methods like getting a few goons to fuck with people's heads and waste their energy arguing with them?

Because they don't need to put goons on the site to fuck with eachothers heads. They can see there are enough goons fucking with eachothers minds WITHOUT them!!!

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Because they don't need to put goons on the site to fuck with eachothers heads. They can see there are enough goons fucking with eachothers minds WITHOUT them!!!

lol

drael
25-10-2008, 04:10 PM
This info is disinfo.

Signed, disinfo agent.

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:13 PM
This info is disinfo.

Signed, disinfo agent.

:D

lizzy
25-10-2008, 04:14 PM
Why wouldn't they use both 'sophisticated' methods and also more conventional methods like getting a few goons to fuck with people's heads and waste their energy arguing with them?

They do do this. of that I am certain.

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:18 PM
They do do this. of that I am certain.

And what is your certainty based on?

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 04:23 PM
And what is your certainty based on?

...the fact that you just started an argument about it :eek: :p

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:25 PM
...the fact that you just started an argument about it :eek: :p


Makes no sense but I'll accept it for the sake of it.

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 04:34 PM
Makes no sense but I'll accept it for the sake of it.

Lizzy agreed agents come here to argue, and you replied saying 'and what makes you think that' as in, you were starting an argument about it, meaning you were a disinfo agent, and your question proved her point.

Something like that.

And I was joking, by the way.

lizzy
25-10-2008, 04:38 PM
And what is your certainty based on?

THINK. why don't cha;).this place is a ready made pen for the aware and the becoming aware of the vast, malicious evil that has controlled us for thousands of years....more plebs understand this than ever before, it was once onlt the domain of the elite to have this knowledge......both exoteric, esoteric, and the 3d agenda , which is the most fucked up evil UN-imaginable...

WHERE ELSE TO BETTER BASH THEM LIKE SEALS IN A CULLING , CLUBING AND HOUNDING...ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE FINALLY BCOME AWARE THAT ALL FORUMS ARE EITHER CONTROLLED BY THE ELITE OR HEAVILY INFILTRATED.

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Lizzy agreed agents come here to argue, and you replied saying 'and what makes you think that' as in, you were starting an argument about it, meaning you were a disinfo agent, and your question proved her point.

Something like that.

And I was joking, by the way.

Ha ha wow I was slow catching that one :rolleyes: good though :D

emanuel
25-10-2008, 04:46 PM
THINK. why don't cha;).this place is a ready made pen for the aware and the becoming aware of the vast, malicious evil that has controlled us for thousands of years....more plebs understand this than ever before, it was once onlt the domain of the elite to have this knowledge......both exoteric, esoteric, and the 3d agenda , which is the most fucked up evil UN-imaginable...

WHERE ELSE TO BETTER BASH THEM LIKE SEALS IN A CULLING , CLUBING AND HOUNDING...ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE FINALLY BCOME AWARE THAT ALL FORUMS ARE EITHER CONTROLLED BY THE ELITE OR HEAVILY INFILTRATED.

I'm sure you believe yourself to be 'aware' or something of some sort of threat to the elite, we all do at the end of the day, but if YOU think (instead of reading others thoughts) then you may see we are no more than what we were when we started. This shit is not something we figured out. The info of the 'elite' was dangled infront of us. Understand this, we are still no smarter than your average garden slug (no offense to the slug)

lizzy
25-10-2008, 05:05 PM
I'm sure you believe yourself to be 'aware' or something of some sort of threat to the elite, we all do at the end of the day, but if YOU think (instead of reading others thoughts) then you may see we are no more than what we were when we started. This shit is not something we figured out. The info of the 'elite' was dangled infront of us. Understand this, we are still no smarter than your average garden slug (no offense to the slug)

I agree......I'm certainly not PhD material, I was always in trouble at school, LOL

But disagree that anyone here is any threat to the elite....I think hold ALL the cards........

All one can do is get there own internal and to their own ability , external life in in order , be as kind and understanding as is possible...

BUT..........

Yes, some has been dangled like bait.....bait which smells like a really big rat.

So what's your point? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with my last post?

WHERE ELSE TO BETTER BASH THEM LIKE SEALS IN A CULLING , CLUBING AND HOUNDING...ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE FINALLY BCOME AWARE THAT ALL FORUMS ARE EITHER CONTROLLED BY THE ELITE OR HEAVILY INFILTRATED.........

extrasolar
25-10-2008, 05:09 PM
what is a Disinfo agent?

krakhead
25-10-2008, 05:20 PM
what is a Disinfo agent?

They do stuff like this apparently -

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Although, having been labelled with the disinfo tag myself on more than one occasion (;)), I have to say that the people labelling me as disinfo regularly, nay always, followed these rules! :rolleyes:

Go figure! :D

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 05:35 PM
Being labelled a disinfo agent is a rite of passage on this forum.

emanuel
25-10-2008, 10:48 PM
I agree......I'm certainly not PhD material, I was always in trouble at school, LOL

But disagree that anyone here is any threat to the elite....I think hold ALL the cards........

All one can do is get there own internal and to their own ability , external life in in order , be as kind and understanding as is possible...

BUT..........

Yes, some has been dangled like bait.....bait which smells like a really big rat.

So what's your point? Are you agreeing or disagreeing with my last post?

WHERE ELSE TO BETTER BASH THEM LIKE SEALS IN A CULLING , CLUBING AND HOUNDING...ALL BECAUSE THEY HAVE FINALLY BCOME AWARE THAT ALL FORUMS ARE EITHER CONTROLLED BY THE ELITE OR HEAVILY INFILTRATED.........

Hmm, we are a threat to the elite I suppose. But, holding all the cards means very little if we don't know what card game we are playing! We may have a full house.....but we are playing 'Russian Bank'!

You can take a bunch of people and teach them how to play football, but if you enter them into the rugby league they are not going to be of much use.........

duckingdafta
25-10-2008, 11:07 PM
He never learns from my posts.

why would I?.. for one, you never teach anything of any use to anyone and for two, you're an amateur...:rolleyes:

emanuel
25-10-2008, 11:15 PM
why would I?.. for one, you never teach anything of any use to anyone and for two, you're an amateur...:rolleyes:

You're like a ninja ;)

carlg1212
26-10-2008, 03:15 AM
This thread is pure comedy genius!


The very idea that the ones we oppose would stoop as low as trying to talk us out of our way of thinking!!! For fuck sake, did you not read the bit that underlines just how sophisticated their methods of control are. Anybody that thinks they need to place 'disinfo agents' on this forum are nothing more than an example of just how fucking stupid we are next to the masterminds that are supposedly bending us over.

Ever hear of COINTELPRO?

tyler
26-10-2008, 05:06 AM
This is what brings them here and on to other sites.......

http://giyus.org/

lizzy
26-10-2008, 05:18 AM
This is what brings them here and on to other sites.......

http://giyus.org/
yep, and this.http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=7652891847477492406&ei=tlDySOAVkrDZAveghPcO&q=the+emissaries+of+jahbulon+lightbringers&hl=fr

and their evil knows no bounds........

mikethepunk
26-10-2008, 07:23 AM
Yes it gets harder and harder to stay positive in this sick world. I, even though I am self realized am not anywhere near the goal of being complete with the oneness--hence my negative crap sometimes. this world has been so rough with me, and it gets harder and harder every day to stay positive.

emanuel
26-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Ever hear of COINTELPRO?

Right, but that was developed and used the most back in a time when they did not have such sophisticated technologies that they do today, Professor!!!

They don't NEED to waste that kind of time with over-the-hill techniques.

romas
26-10-2008, 09:20 AM
I don't know about dis-info agents, but in my opinion paranoia has invaded the minds of many.


Haha so true :)


PS: I think OP is making a move, preemptive strike, to try and take down true sources of information, haha j/k :D

branjo
26-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Fear is a disease and its all over this forum and good people are fighting it and good people are absorbing it. Whether people know that they are spreading a lot of it is not for me to say but the fact that it is spreading it is still the problem at hand.

I don't know about anyone else but i'm getting pretty sick of the defeatism being passed around here. Threads where people are saying there is nothing we can do and we are powerless are springing up all over the place. The people that start these threads are genuine people who have been gripped by fear. They don't know where to turn and they need the backing up from friends giving them a promise that we won't leave their side no matter how scary things get, not more people passing around ghost stories and freaking out the kids even more.

Although, there are a few threads out there that are rock solid in direction and purpose and they rarely speak of the things like the fema coffins or the fema camps because of one very important reason, they know about them and they do not fear them.

If you come into this forum with the attitude of "we need to get off our asses and kick the shit out of these people" then your on the right road..lol not for the violence factor but for the enthusiasm and the will do do something. However if your main action is to peddle fear and promote a directionless hysteria then you really need to look at your actions whether purposefully or not you are having a very bad effect on the people you are trying to inspire to save a country or planet of people.

We will not be killed on a mass scale because we are not alone in our fight, the reason this will not happen today is because we have very powerful people on our side, even people that we think are evil have to wear the mask of evil in order to gain the powerful positions, you have to choose the moment to strike back and you may have to take a few blows before you can deliver the lethal blow that will free yourself.

There are more secret societies than the banking, oil and drug cartels that have remained secret for hundreds if not thousands of years that keep this scum at bay and prevent them from getting in complete control.

Sooner or later everyone takes a stand against the people they fear, it is the whole nature of humans to revolt against tyranny, you can only push so hard before you receive friction and then you get the same amount of pressure pushing back.

I would think the shitstorm we find ourselves in has been a well laid plan in all but one aspect. That one aspect is the good old internet, I don't think they placed enough importance on people being able to instantly communicate from one side of the planet to the other.

So instead of using it to spread fear we should use it to spread strength, and stop this useless bullshit of trying to have the most effect on other people with your little conspiracy theories because thats all they are without proof. Of course there are conspiracy's and mind control going on but you are still here and you who are part of this forum have already proved you are immune to mind control or else you wouldn't be here.

So lets stop this utter crap of pointing out every injustice ever made in the world because you know what? there are too many and there are too many for a reason, to keep your mind busy on one thing while another goes on behind your back, misdirection.

Love, Friendship and Honor are universal strengths and they are all we need to fix any problem or defeat any enemy of the people. We have forgotten the very purpose of life and that is to keep moving forward.

I dunno lol maybe im full of it, but you know what I couldn't care less about how many guns are in my face, you can only kill me once but my middle finger will be in your face for all eternity. :)

emanuel
26-10-2008, 10:20 AM
Fear is a disease and its all over this forum and good people are fighting it and good people are absorbing it. Whether people know that they are spreading a lot of it is not for me to say but the fact that it is spreading it is still the problem at hand.

I don't know about anyone else but i'm getting pretty sick of the defeatism being passed around here. Threads where people are saying there is nothing we can do and we are powerless are springing up all over the place. The people that start these threads are genuine people who have been gripped by fear. They don't know where to turn and they need the backing up from friends giving them a promise that we won't leave their side no matter how scary things get, not more people passing around ghost stories and freaking out the kids even more.

Although, there are a few threads out there that are rock solid in direction and purpose and they rarely speak of the things like the fema coffins or the fema camps because of one very important reason, they know about them and they do not fear them.

If you come into this forum with the attitude of "we need to get off our asses and kick the shit out of these people" then your on the right road..lol not for the violence factor but for the enthusiasm and the will do do something. However if your main action is to peddle fear and promote a directionless hysteria then you really need to look at your actions whether purposefully or not you are having a very bad effect on the people you are trying to inspire to save a country or planet of people.

We will not be killed on a mass scale because we are not alone in our fight, the reason this will not happen today is because we have very powerful people on our side, even people that we think are evil have to wear the mask of evil in order to gain the powerful positions, you have to choose the moment to strike back and you may have to take a few blows before you can deliver the lethal blow that will free yourself.

There are more secret societies than the banking, oil and drug cartels that have remained secret for hundreds if not thousands of years that keep this scum at bay and prevent them from getting in complete control.

Sooner or later everyone takes a stand against the people they fear, it is the whole nature of humans to revolt against tyranny, you can only push so hard before you receive friction and then you get the same amount of pressure pushing back.

I would think the shitstorm we find ourselves in has been a well laid plan in all but one aspect. That one aspect is the good old internet, I don't think they placed enough importance on people being able to instantly communicate from one side of the planet to the other.

So instead of using it to spread fear we should use it to spread strength, and stop this useless bullshit of trying to have the most effect on other people with your little conspiracy theories because thats all they are without proof. Of course there are conspiracy's and mind control going on but you are still here and you who are part of this forum have already proved you are immune to mind control or else you wouldn't be here.

So lets stop this utter crap of pointing out every injustice ever made in the world because you know what? there are too many and there are too many for a reason, to keep your mind busy on one thing while another goes on behind your back, misdirection.

Love, Friendship and Honor are universal strengths and they are all we need to fix any problem or defeat any enemy of the people. We have forgotten the very purpose of life and that is to keep moving forward.

I dunno lol maybe im full of it, but you know what I couldn't care less about how many guns are in my face, you can only kill me once but my middle finger will be in your face for all eternity. :)

Fear is part of your defense mechanism.................!

runciter
26-10-2008, 10:20 AM
I'm sure you believe yourself to be 'aware' or something of some sort of threat to the elite, we all do at the end of the day, but if YOU think (instead of reading others thoughts) then you may see we are no more than what we were when we started. This shit is not something we figured out. The info of the 'elite' was dangled infront of us. Understand this, we are still no smarter than your average garden slug (no offense to the slug)

speak for yourself, i'm going to defeat those sabbatean frankist psychopaths :cool:

alone, if necessary.. but we are many, and we have more power than we think.

emanuel
26-10-2008, 10:26 AM
speak for yourself, i'm going to defeat those sabbatean frankist psychopaths :cool:

alone, if necessary.. but we are many, and we have more power than we think.

We have MASSIVE potential, but that is yet to be converted into power. But saying that, the desire of power is what put 'them' in their position and drives them ever more. Do you wanna be a part of that?

tracker
26-10-2008, 10:30 AM
speak for yourself, i'm going to defeat those sabbatean frankist psychopaths :cool:

alone, if necessary.. but we are many, and we have more power than we think.

now that remark is the mark of a truly strong person , one that has no fear , and if you have no fear , no one can harm you .

hence
you cannot kill a person if they have no fear .
runiter --- respect to you there .:cool:

runciter
26-10-2008, 10:32 AM
We have MASSIVE potential, but that is yet to be converted into power. But saying that, the desire of power is what put 'them' in their position and drives them ever more. Do you wanna be a part of that?

spiritual power, self confidence, empathy and compassion, will to share..

yes i'm a rothschild, a descendant of the true messiah sabbetai zevi 666.

http://www.otrnow.com/store/dvd/Alpha/ItsAJokeSon.jpg

runciter
26-10-2008, 10:41 AM
now that remark is the mark of a truly strong person , one that has no fear , and if you have no fear , no one can harm you .

hence
you cannot kill a person if they have no fear .
runiter --- respect to you there .:cool:

thanks tracker..

http://www.austinprobe.com/images/cobra-mongoose.jpg

we've already defeated them :cool:

tracker
26-10-2008, 10:42 AM
spiritual power, self confidence, empathy and compassion, will to share..

yes i'm a rothschild, a descendant of the true messiah sabbetai zevi 666.

thi intregues me because i have always had a notion that the elite and illuminate and the reptilian races , eswell as the legion have had a rogue group within their bloodlines that they have worked very hard to keep down .

some of these lines have been forgotten by them , and one can tell their bloodlines by their strength of charactor .
similar in line like the bloodlines , but in complete oposite , these people an be recognised by a few traits .

1 ) No fear to stand alone and take on the beast .
2 ) No fear to face staggering odds which can often lead to loosing some freinds or family ties along the way
3 ) often stand up for what right and wrong regardless of place and time .
4 ) destest liers , and rearly trust them after a betrail
5 ) super intense sibling instinct , could go as far as killing some one if they threaten a siblings well being ( depends on the situation )
6 ) is not afraid to say what they need to say
7 ) have predictive powers ( small ones but none the less )
8 ) can predeict intentions ( not thoughts ) of others
9 ) some have said to be in a state of expecting to wake up most of the time
10 ) have had countless battles in their sleep with life forms not generally known to the public .


how do i know this ?

their are alot of people out there like this , its finding them thats tricky , and gaining their trust even more so .:cool:
thats not to say they dont trust any one , im just saying , it has to be earned and respected .:cool:

branjo
26-10-2008, 10:42 AM
Fear is part of your defense mechanism.................!

There is a difference between fear for your life and fear of what might happen. One is justified and the other is cowardice.

tracker
26-10-2008, 10:49 AM
There is a difference between fear for your life and fear of what might happen. One is justified and the other is cowardice.


the post above this one that i made is also connected to this subject of fear .
i agree that fear of ones own life is a bit cowardice , but for those who truly know fear , are usually the ones that recognise it for what it truly is .
fear is just an energy frequency and it can be used in so many ways to benifit the individual .
fear for ones own life sometimes happens because of survival instinct , so it can be used to survive , but it can also be used to save others too .

fear is just an energy frequency , those who know it , understand it , those who understand it , can control it , and those who control it ,do not fear , but they do use the frequency .
like all energy , fear cannot be made or destroyed , it is just an energy and like all forms of energy , it can be transposed into another form of energy .

hence , coal can be turned into heat .
heat can be turned into motion .
motion can be turned into electricity .
electricity can be turned into light and so on .

fear is nothing but an energy .:cool:

it is how we use it that counts .

runciter
26-10-2008, 10:57 AM
thi intregues me because i have always had a notion that the elite and illuminate and the reptilian races , eswell as the legion have had a rogue group within their bloodlines that they have worked very hard to keep down .

some of these lines have been forgotten by them , and one can tell their bloodlines by their strength of charactor .
similar in line like the bloodlines , but in complete oposite , these people an be recognised by a few traits .

1 ) No fear to stand alone and take on the beast .
2 ) No fear to face staggering odds which can often lead to loosing some freinds or family ties along the way
3 ) often stand up for what right and wrong regardless of place and time .
4 ) destest liers , and rearly trust them after a betrail
5 ) super intense sibling instinct , could go as far as killing some one if they threaten a siblings well being ( depends on the situation )
6 ) is not afraid to say what they need to say
7 ) have predictive powers ( small ones but none the less )
8 ) can predeict intentions ( not thoughts ) of others
9 ) some have said to be in a state of expecting to wake up most of the time
10 ) have had countless battles in their sleep with life forms not generally known to the public .


how do i know this ?

their are alot of people out there like this , its finding them thats tricky , and gaining their trust even more so .:cool:
thats not to say they dont trust any one , im just saying , it has to be earned and respected .:cool:

mmmh.. interesting post tracker, i was obviously joking about being a rothschild, but i often wonder about my true origins, and not always thinking about blood and ancestry.. where our "souls" came from? are we all part of the same "picture", or there are different levels and our coexistence "here and now" is a mere illusion? what kind of game are we playing? are we all real? yes we are.. but what's the meaning of it all? and will it ever end?

http://coralitosh.nomadlife.org/uploaded_images/Matrix%20System%20Failure-716519.jpg

tracker
26-10-2008, 11:09 AM
mmmh.. interesting post tracker, i was obviously joking about being a rothschild, but i often wonder about my true origins, and not always thinking about blood and ancestry.. where our "souls" came from? are we all part of the same "picture", or there are different levels and our coexistence "here and now" is a mere illusion? what kind of game are we playing? are we all real? yes we are.. but what's the meaning of it all? and will it ever end?

http://coralitosh.nomadlife.org/uploaded_images/Matrix%20System%20Failure-716519.jpg

i know this sounds so right up my own ass but its not , most people are mind controlled and are unable to wake up and thats a fact that stays true .
sometimes , some people will not wake up no matter what one does .

some how , some times , i have thought tht when we all die , we all meet in a vast room and party for some unknown silly reason .

its like , we are all in together , and we keep coming back for more .
do i think there is different types of consciousness ?
yes i do !

but consciousness is consciousness whether its human or alien .

so we are all one , no matter what one we think we are , and bye the way , yes i did think it was a joke you said , but the facts remain , normal people , including "some" that are awake , seldom say

if i have to stand alone i will .


this is the mark of someone , who isnt quite normally classed as human ( inside ) because most normal humans , go with the flow , and most dead fish go with the flow too which is why fish that swim up stream are the ones that carry on .

my findings do not come from an opinion by the way , you only have to watch and understand these bloodlines activities and beleifs , to know exactly how the oposites act .

after all , in some wild way we are all related anyway , its just now that every now and then , and anomily apears , long distance relations of lines forgotten pop up , and they can be so obviosu to some one that knows what they are looking at .:cool:

your joke , just may have had more turth in it than you might care to face or admit , but so what , like me , blood lines means nothing .
we are either rightouse in our actions , or we are not .
those are the true ties to spirituality , for me anyway .:cool:

asi ihave said before on other threads .

it is not our names that is important , or our jobs or our words
it is our actions that define us !

alfrmo
26-10-2008, 12:23 PM
Fear is a disease and its all over this forum and good people are fighting it and good people are absorbing it. Whether people know that they are spreading a lot of it is not for me to say but the fact that it is spreading it is still the problem at hand.

I don't know about anyone else but i'm getting pretty sick of the defeatism being passed around here. Threads where people are saying there is nothing we can do and we are powerless are springing up all over the place. The people that start these threads are genuine people who have been gripped by fear. They don't know where to turn and they need the backing up from friends giving them a promise that we won't leave their side no matter how scary things get, not more people passing around ghost stories and freaking out the kids even more.

Although, there are a few threads out there that are rock solid in direction and purpose and they rarely speak of the things like the fema coffins or the fema camps because of one very important reason, they know about them and they do not fear them.

If you come into this forum with the attitude of "we need to get off our asses and kick the shit out of these people" then your on the right road..lol not for the violence factor but for the enthusiasm and the will do do something. However if your main action is to peddle fear and promote a directionless hysteria then you really need to look at your actions whether purposefully or not you are having a very bad effect on the people you are trying to inspire to save a country or planet of people.

We will not be killed on a mass scale because we are not alone in our fight, the reason this will not happen today is because we have very powerful people on our side, even people that we think are evil have to wear the mask of evil in order to gain the powerful positions, you have to choose the moment to strike back and you may have to take a few blows before you can deliver the lethal blow that will free yourself.

There are more secret societies than the banking, oil and drug cartels that have remained secret for hundreds if not thousands of years that keep this scum at bay and prevent them from getting in complete control.

Sooner or later everyone takes a stand against the people they fear, it is the whole nature of humans to revolt against tyranny, you can only push so hard before you receive friction and then you get the same amount of pressure pushing back.

I would think the shitstorm we find ourselves in has been a well laid plan in all but one aspect. That one aspect is the good old internet, I don't think they placed enough importance on people being able to instantly communicate from one side of the planet to the other.

So instead of using it to spread fear we should use it to spread strength, and stop this useless bullshit of trying to have the most effect on other people with your little conspiracy theories because thats all they are without proof. Of course there are conspiracy's and mind control going on but you are still here and you who are part of this forum have already proved you are immune to mind control or else you wouldn't be here.

So lets stop this utter crap of pointing out every injustice ever made in the world because you know what? there are too many and there are too many for a reason, to keep your mind busy on one thing while another goes on behind your back, misdirection.

Love, Friendship and Honor are universal strengths and they are all we need to fix any problem or defeat any enemy of the people. We have forgotten the very purpose of life and that is to keep moving forward.

I dunno lol maybe im full of it, but you know what I couldn't care less about how many guns are in my face, you can only kill me once but my middle finger will be in your face for all eternity. :)
I certainly agree! the only thing to fear is fear itself, we must never underestimate how strong we are, paranoia and the subsequent paralysis perpetuated by fear-peddling can only benefit the PTB, and this is why it is so important for them to tell us "there is nothing we can do" etc, they are scared shitless by peoples awakening conciousness and rejection of their fear-based controlled society, ignorance and fear are what they rely on, knowledge and love are what we need to spread.

branjo
26-10-2008, 12:35 PM
the post above this one that i made is also connected to this subject of fear .
i agree that fear of ones own life is a bit cowardice , but for those who truly know fear , are usually the ones that recognise it for what it truly is .
fear is just an energy frequency and it can be used in so many ways to benifit the individual .
fear for ones own life sometimes happens because of survival instinct , so it can be used to survive , but it can also be used to save others too .

fear is just an energy frequency , those who know it , understand it , those who understand it , can control it , and those who control it ,do not fear , but they do use the frequency .
like all energy , fear cannot be made or destroyed , it is just an energy and like all forms of energy , it can be transposed into another form of energy .

hence , coal can be turned into heat .
heat can be turned into motion .
motion can be turned into electricity .
electricity can be turned into light and so on .

fear is nothing but an energy .:cool:

it is how we use it that counts .

I actually couldn't disagree more with that statement, Fear can be eradicated completely through courage and belief. Of course it can be made, its being manufactured just like an automated factory pumps out a car every few minutes. The media breeds it and pumps out via your TV and radio. Your government shout it over the airwaves to keep a nation afraid and paralyzed.

Knowledge kills fear dead in its tracks. People have a fear of water until they overcome the fear and jump and then they swim, no more fear. Its nothing more than a hurdle to be overcome with strength and courage.

Now when I said there is fear for your life and fear for what might happen, i actually meant that fearing what "Might" happen is the cowardice, not the other way around.

Now, no one is going to give a Bengal Tiger the middle finger and tell it to piss off home, cause it will eat you with a smile on its face, so by all means run your ass off in as much fear as you want.

But, someone who you have no respect for at all is trying to force you to do something that is not only against your will but against the very fiber of your existence deserves to be told to shove it up their ass without fear of consequence. For example someone puts a gun in your face and tells you to give them your kid, it isn't fear that will force you to beat them to death, its insane amounts of anger and the sheer will to protect your young. The will to survive is not driven by fear, it is the refusal to let fear consume you.

Fear is nothing more than a loss of perceived control, it is not a frequency or a useful emotional response in the slightest form. It is counter productive to progress and courage. It is a learned response to something that has not yet happened, a literal fear of the unknown, self preservation can't be explained with just fear.

It doesn't make you do anything else but decide whether to overcome it or let it consume you. It may be a first response but its hardly the driving force that leads to protection of oneself or others. I think you are confusing Fear with the Fight or Flight response, which is an instant decision based purely on consequences of acting on your instincts. Of course there are as many views on fear as there are people on the planet so I can only give my feelings on it, which I suppose will either be understood or not.

But I do dig where you are coming from but what you call fear I would call pressure.

branjo
26-10-2008, 12:37 PM
I certainly agree! the only thing to fear is fear itself, we must never underestimate how strong we are, paranoia and the subsequent paralysis perpetuated by fear-peddling can only benefit the PTB, and this is why it is so important for them to tell us "there is nothing we can do" etc, they are scared shitless by peoples awakening conciousness and rejection of their fear-based controlled society, ignorance and fear are what they rely on, knowledge and love are what we need to spread.

Rock On !!!

deca
26-10-2008, 12:39 PM
I would not worry about the disinfo agents or the pysops , when the shite hits the fan there job is over, they like alot of anthers want be needed.
so laugh now dick heads, have you a safe seat?

emanuel
26-10-2008, 03:50 PM
spiritual power, self confidence, empathy and compassion, will to share..

yes i'm a rothschild, a descendant of the true messiah sabbetai zevi 666.

http://www.otrnow.com/store/dvd/Alpha/ItsAJokeSon.jpg

Whatever you say ace!

runciter
26-10-2008, 04:13 PM
Whatever you say ace!

we know who our enemies aaaaaaaaaare http://bravellir.com/gallery/d/6892-1/whistling.gif


http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/shabbetai1.gif http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/freres.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/cliff_shack/shabbetai_rothschild.html

runciter
26-10-2008, 04:21 PM
What Every Jew (and Non-Jew) Should Know

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

A Chicago-area scholar, Christopher Jon Bjerknes, 42, thinks he knows what plagues mankind and believes his knowledge is necessary to stop Armageddon.

He says a heretical cult, the "Shabataian Frankists," controls organized Jewry, including Zionism and Freemasonry. They began as followers of Shabatai Zvi (1626-1676) and later Jacob Frank (1726-1791.) They believe Shabatai was the Messiah (God) and his soul has transmigrated down to the Rothschild dynasty, who are now the "king of the Jews."

According to their messianic system, Redemption requires that the Rothschilds become God, i.e. king of the world.

http://www.savethemales.ca/002089.html

bob_jones
26-10-2008, 04:23 PM
It is an old trick to creat your own opposition and so have arranged the defeat to unfold infront of the audience.
Just listen to Michael Portillo, Claire Fox and Melanie Phillips trying to flog GMO, psychiatric drugs etc, On the Moral Maze on Radio 4.
They think they are all it.
That much at least they do not try to camoflage too much.
Then you get the planted allegation to come from your group and it gets trashed by a pre-arranged plan. Very hard to re-gain credibility.
Take my VX-nerve gas surival for instance.
Why the Hell would that be a good trolling exercise?
So you can say you believe it and then it gets denyed?
But I have done some serious time in the nut house for protesting about it and can name names.
They would deny it if it was true or not.
The science of it has been debated and I being a qualified chemical engineer think I have done a good job.
Anyone could invent a statement that 1 drop the size of a pin head would kill a 100 people.
But do you believe the establishment "fact" that "disproves" my claim?
You can sit back and consider the Sarin attack in Tokyo.
All dead? No.
And George Bush's WMD scare of posting US weapons grade Anthrax around the postal system to scare people about WMDs. Two fatalities.
If you ever got the professional standard police report mad after I made a complaint of false imprisonment and assault after I was detained under section 156 the day after the words VX-GAS were painted two foot high on the windows of Grove Kitchens in West End Llanelli.
The bent cops that made the arrest painted a picture of a confused retart with Downs syndrome that could not understand he was being lead away for his own safety.
Their deformation was so overdone to justify their assault and false imprisonment it proves beyond all reasonable doubt to any objectve person their guilt of corruption and involvement in a conspiract to tell these standard establishment lies.
The only credibel motive for making such blatanty dishonest statements.
You get money and you make thes false accusations.
That is how the Royal Hosehold operates and always has done.
The police report refres to it as criminal damage but dose not even mention the term VX-GAS.
Read my albums.
The Gardi in court the day after the London bombings falsely claimed the words XT-GAS were wrttten on the ruck sack I dumped into the grounds of the German Embassy on 7/7/05.
But given the nature of what I am able to prove.
9/11 inside job, Lady Diana Murdered, 7/7 inside job, Failed False flag attempt on my life with VX-nerve gas!!!
Then you would expect Trolls to be here to try and counter me.
However the word prove is not their possesion.
You do not put a criminal in court and let them reject the prosecution evidence as wrong ect and let them decide if you have proved their guilt or not.
A jury dose that.
YOU DECIDE IF MY EVIDENCE PERSUADES YOU OF MY CASE.
NOT THE TROLLS!!!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35668

drhemp
26-10-2008, 05:38 PM
You're all paranoid!

emanuel
26-10-2008, 06:21 PM
You're all paranoid!

Except me!








Or am I??? I'm sure there are a bunch of suits following me......though from here they look like very cheap suits......................................!

tracker
26-10-2008, 06:41 PM
I actually couldn't disagree more with that statement, Fear can be eradicated completely through courage and belief. Of course it can be made, its being manufactured just like an automated factory pumps out a car every few minutes. The media breeds it and pumps out via your TV and radio. Your government shout it over the airwaves to keep a nation afraid and paralyzed.

Knowledge kills fear dead in its tracks. People have a fear of water until they overcome the fear and jump and then they swim, no more fear. Its nothing more than a hurdle to be overcome with strength and courage.

Now when I said there is fear for your life and fear for what might happen, i actually meant that fearing what "Might" happen is the cowardice, not the other way around.

Now, no one is going to give a Bengal Tiger the middle finger and tell it to piss off home, cause it will eat you with a smile on its face, so by all means run your ass off in as much fear as you want.

But, someone who you have no respect for at all is trying to force you to do something that is not only against your will but against the very fiber of your existence deserves to be told to shove it up their ass without fear of consequence. For example someone puts a gun in your face and tells you to give them your kid, it isn't fear that will force you to beat them to death, its insane amounts of anger and the sheer will to protect your young. The will to survive is not driven by fear, it is the refusal to let fear consume you.

Fear is nothing more than a loss of perceived control, it is not a frequency or a useful emotional response in the slightest form. It is counter productive to progress and courage. It is a learned response to something that has not yet happened, a literal fear of the unknown, self preservation can't be explained with just fear.

It doesn't make you do anything else but decide whether to overcome it or let it consume you. It may be a first response but its hardly the driving force that leads to protection of oneself or others. I think you are confusing Fear with the Fight or Flight response, which is an instant decision based purely on consequences of acting on your instincts. Of course there are as many views on fear as there are people on the planet so I can only give my feelings on it, which I suppose will either be understood or not.

But I do dig where you are coming from but what you call fear I would call pressure.

yeah ,

mynameis
26-10-2008, 06:53 PM
I actually couldn't disagree more with that statement, Fear can be eradicated completely through courage and belief. Of course it can be made, its being manufactured just like an automated factory pumps out a car every few minutes. The media breeds it and pumps out via your TV and radio. Your government shout it over the airwaves to keep a nation afraid and paralyzed.

Knowledge kills fear dead in its tracks. People have a fear of water until they overcome the fear and jump and then they swim, no more fear. Its nothing more than a hurdle to be overcome with strength and courage.

Now when I said there is fear for your life and fear for what might happen, i actually meant that fearing what "Might" happen is the cowardice, not the other way around.

Now, no one is going to give a Bengal Tiger the middle finger and tell it to piss off home, cause it will eat you with a smile on its face, so by all means run your ass off in as much fear as you want.

But, someone who you have no respect for at all is trying to force you to do something that is not only against your will but against the very fiber of your existence deserves to be told to shove it up their ass without fear of consequence. For example someone puts a gun in your face and tells you to give them your kid, it isn't fear that will force you to beat them to death, its insane amounts of anger and the sheer will to protect your young. The will to survive is not driven by fear, it is the refusal to let fear consume you.

Fear is nothing more than a loss of perceived control, it is not a frequency or a useful emotional response in the slightest form. It is counter productive to progress and courage. It is a learned response to something that has not yet happened, a literal fear of the unknown, self preservation can't be explained with just fear.

It doesn't make you do anything else but decide whether to overcome it or let it consume you. It may be a first response but its hardly the driving force that leads to protection of oneself or others. I think you are confusing Fear with the Fight or Flight response, which is an instant decision based purely on consequences of acting on your instincts. Of course there are as many views on fear as there are people on the planet so I can only give my feelings on it, which I suppose will either be understood or not.

But I do dig where you are coming from but what you call fear I would call pressure.

Also with your last post...Carry on.....
Meet a monster, you don't run: you ambush, set traps, or face it until it dies.

Now strategic withdrawal...that's a different matter.

drhemp
26-10-2008, 06:54 PM
Except me!








Or am I??? I'm sure there are a bunch of suits following me......though from here they look like very cheap suits......................................!

Don't be paranoid son, they are watching you and people do talk about you behind your back.

emanuel
26-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Don't be paranoid son, they are watching you and people do talk about you behind your back.

*smirking* I hope so!

keystone
26-10-2008, 07:03 PM
YOU DECIDE IF MY EVIDENCE PERSUADES YOU OF MY CASE. NOT THE TROLLS!!!

Well I for one ain't persuaded.

Don't shout please - I'm not deaf.

bob_jones
26-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Well I for one ain't persuaded.

Don't shout please - I'm not deaf.

Yes but I have proven that you are not objective. You are posing as a genuine opinion but you do not have one. You have motive to dispute the crime.
You invent facts and try and set a false frame work and say the truth don't fit into it.
You have gone out of your way to do this and still you think that the thruth will not exist as long as you reject it.
I am not worried due to your many mis-readings, cooky responses, awkward trap setting and general presentation of someone not fit to judge a serious matter.
The way to try and be seem nice while being nasty is an emotional dishoesty that will gives normal folks the creeps.
You don't grasp things well and that comes across loud and clear.
You didn't even understand the last rebuke was there to hold a mirror up to your emotional dishonesty for you to see yourself in it.
I know others that emerse themselves so deep in narsarcism they never allow critisism to penetrate too.
But I wasn't really trying to be friendly by teilling you to fuck off.
I know it is easy to imagine everyone loves you when you love yourself so much but bewhere reality is grim by comparison.

keystone
26-10-2008, 07:39 PM
But I wasn't really trying to be friendly by teilling you to fuck off.Yes - I know. Does it bother you that I seemed to take it so then?

And I'm very sorry but you haven't persuaded me that you were the subject of a VX attack. It's your prerogative to believe you may have been. It's mine not to believe you.

sirlozo
26-10-2008, 07:42 PM
btw i reckon the disinfo agents outnumber the innocent about 4 : 1 on this site IMO

Would not doubt it. Notice all the people getting defensive.

eternal_spirit
26-10-2008, 07:44 PM
Would not doubt it. Notice all the people getting defensive.

Don't listen to jesuitidiot he is disinfo.

carlg1212
29-10-2008, 03:05 AM
Right, but that was developed and used the most back in a time when they did not have such sophisticated technologies that they do today, Professor!!!

They don't NEED to waste that kind of time with over-the-hill techniques.

Over and over again, the simplest techniques are proven to work.

Infiltration.

jennf
29-10-2008, 03:45 AM
Over and over again, the simplest techniques are proven to work.

Infiltration.

Oh yes Infiltration lol!

get into a place or organisation gradually and without being noticed

I'm sorry but that hasn't worked on me or many others around here lol!! :D None of you are gradual or not noticed, maybe we are more awake (not being personal there just pointing out to others!) ;)

seeker1111
29-10-2008, 03:55 AM
Do you think they are actually paid disinfo agents...or do they just spread disinfo unwittingly?

dammit! You can get paid for this?? :eek:

and all this time i didn't know...

I figure I have some back pay coming! woo wee! :p

skyline
29-10-2008, 09:04 AM
disinfo agents are most welcome

Its a true measure of our quest,as their numbers grow so do we

jesuitsdidit
30-10-2008, 04:00 AM
reply 78
It is an old trick to creat your own opposition and so have arranged the defeat to unfold infront of the audience.


exactly..