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lewi
25-10-2008, 12:04 AM
Backmasked version of the song I Kissed Girl. Praise God Whores This Is God

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtav8RXytQ&feature=related
Strange this version sticks in your head more than the normal version what do you guys make of it ??

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKrqJDeuyY

Aleister Crowely created backmasking !!

red_ram
25-10-2008, 12:20 AM
It's...odd.

pinkgeranium
25-10-2008, 12:25 AM
I so hate this song

I am not a prude. I just think its another cynical ploy to mess with young girls minds.

I havent listened to the reversed version yet, but will do.

itsallundercontrol
25-10-2008, 12:36 AM
that made me feel a little ill in an exorcist kinda way

pinkgeranium
25-10-2008, 12:39 AM
OH MY GOD.....................Ive just listened to it.....




That is just so awfull. :mad:




I am speechless....

kblood
25-10-2008, 12:43 AM
I didnt know words would be so clear in reverse. I know at least one member of this forum who is reversing audio all the time to find hidden messages. Seems interesting.

lightworks
25-10-2008, 12:45 AM
that is very very sick and evil...sheds new light on the lenghts they go to....cant spell lenghts+

bluestar
25-10-2008, 12:46 AM
Disturbing!!!

darketernal
25-10-2008, 12:52 AM
Not all the text was exactally what I heard, but yeah much of it was pretty clear. The music industry is a powerful weapon of mind control, and it is heavily exploited for this purpose.

bluestar
25-10-2008, 12:56 AM
how does one send this video to others? Would like to send it on to some friends.

krakhead
25-10-2008, 12:58 AM
how does one send this video to others? Would like to send it on to some friends.

When you play the vid, click on the bottom right arrow, a little box pops up, click this and it'll show you the original youtube url to follow or cut and paste into an e-mail to send to others :)

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 01:01 AM
even if u where to show this to someone who aint aware of it. they would just think ur mad because they dont understand how it works.


it is pretty shocking tho.

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 01:03 AM
i also heard this girl was raised by priests is this true?

_invisibleplane_
25-10-2008, 01:05 AM
not a supporter of everything stated on this site..but if you guys are interested in interpretations of reverse speech in songs and speeches from the elite/various figures in the media...

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/blog/

intriguing to say the least...and a lot of the content should be familiar

itsallundercontrol
25-10-2008, 01:40 AM
http://www.reversespeech.com/words_of_creation.htm

bluestar
25-10-2008, 01:44 AM
Thanks K,
-for the info for sending the vid on. I'm sending it to a friend who can perhaps verify it. I like to check such things before passing them on. If anyone else can verify the reverse speech it would be great.

itsallundercontrol
25-10-2008, 01:50 AM
i also heard this girl was raised by priests is this true?

Katy Perry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a couple of pastors according to this

comawhite015
25-10-2008, 01:51 AM
What a bunch of arse.

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 01:53 AM
Thanks K,
-for the info for sending the vid on. I'm sending it to a friend who can perhaps verify it. I like to check such things before passing them on. If anyone else can verify the reverse speech it would be great.

yep ive just checked it out myself. thats what it says

hw spartan
25-10-2008, 02:10 AM
now you know how i feel, when i 1st heard it in normal mode.

this is just part of the problem.

Anyway...takecare.

oh nice find of vid mate :)

friendsinthesky
25-10-2008, 02:55 AM
Backmasked version of the song I Kissed Girl. Praise God Whores This Is God

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtav8RXytQ&feature=related

Strange this version sticks in your head more than the normal version what do you guys make of it ??

Yeah well, whatever. What does this reverse speach actually mean? Why does it say "whores will be damned"? Doesn't make any sense. And we don't hear this music reversed, we don't sing along to it reversed, maybe some freaky bloodline can hear it, maybe it's pop trash created for them to enjoy. The normal version is obvious mind fucking shit for the teenager's right?!

lewi
25-10-2008, 04:53 AM
An adept should train himself to think backwards *Magick (book4)*Just as in the black mass the lords prayer is played and chanted backwards.

When is the backmask most effective you may ask well when someone in authority or in this case Role models use this technique.

crowd control
25-10-2008, 05:00 AM
Ink blot, see/hear what you like in it. Doing more stretching than Ron Jeremy's fluffer.

stelios
25-10-2008, 06:12 AM
I so hate this song

I am not a prude. I just think its another cynical ploy to mess with young girls minds.

I havent listened to the reversed version yet, but will do.

Actually the original song was quite catchy. But i agree it was created to promote an agenda. There must have been alot of girls who actually went out and did kiss other girls.
strange thing is the singer aparantly was a Christian choir singer so it was quite an odd song for her to launch with as it goes against her faith

Yes backwards it did sound wierd and those did seem to be the words.

cleft_asunder
25-10-2008, 06:29 AM
I so hate this song

We should B friends.

The reverse speak of the song is SO EERIE. It definitely speaks the truth, does't it? I don't much like reverse speech because of the interpretation factor, but this was excellent.

cleft_asunder
25-10-2008, 06:30 AM
OH MY GOD.....................Ive just listened to it.....




That is just so awfull. :mad:




I am speechless....

It's actually scary in a horror movie sort of way if you ask me. It's soooo weird.

cleft_asunder
25-10-2008, 06:37 AM
Can somebody PLEASE agree with me that this is one of the most shameless pieces of music ever contrived? I'm talking about the original. I just can't emphasis my hatred for it, and this is coming from a guy who liked it the first 3 times (is shamed), but then I thought "wait a second, this is so bad that it's not even good." In other words it's just bad. What a slut!

hw spartan
25-10-2008, 06:44 AM
in the reverse vid, she is depicted as sacrificeing a man and eating him, in the forward vid, its a group doing it.
its all the way occult stuff here.
also, in the scene where she is tied to a chair in the reverse vid, you dont want to know what that means, lol..... take a look at it, and look at here lips and think(sodom) ,
she is bad, and all that evil occult stuff....lol
they pump this shit on TV, i utubed around and found that nearly all vids these days of many singers or groups are occult activety.
:cool:



haha shit, i was supposed to post this on other thread, haha sorry folks, wrong thread, damn wine.

madman
25-10-2008, 07:30 AM
I have a really slow dial-up connection and not a lot of time.

Could someone please paste the lyrics of the reverse version.

I am not a big fan of the song but I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. Anything that promotes girl on girl action is ok with me, just as long as I can join in or watch ;)

Giggity Giggity , alright! :D

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 08:29 AM
I have a really slow dial-up connection and not a lot of time.

Could someone please paste the lyrics of the reverse version.

I am not a big fan of the song but I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. Anything that promotes girl on girl action is ok with me, just as long as I can join in or watch ;)

Giggity Giggity , alright! :D

well the reversed song dont quite promote girl on girl....


Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

At Least He's Born Again, Ya Aren't Listenin, Whores Dont Listen, Of This Teak Wood, Builld Them Make God, Hope It And Forged A Evil Star.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Wee Know What They Did. He Is No Sinner, ...And I'm Whore For A Day. Now I'm Bitch, Were At The End Of The World, And The Age Never Knows It. Me Amo...Heard I'm God. In The End Your Lettin Me Ignore That Omen.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Carpe Diem! tart, Whore, You'll Fuck. Whores Dream Of.... Hell I'm Bitch. Whores Shall Be Damned. Nice Requiem, Girls Now Found Clit.


it could be a whole new song in reserve its quite catchy lol.

forza nascosta
25-10-2008, 08:33 AM
I find the reverse thing quite scary, glad I listened to it even though it made me :eek:

madman
25-10-2008, 08:39 AM
well the reversed song dont quite promote girl on girl....


Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

At Least He's Born Again, Ya Aren't Listenin, Whores Dont Listen, Of This Teak Wood, Builld Them Make God, Hope It And Forged A Evil Star.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Wee Know What They Did. He Is No Sinner, ...And I'm Whore For A Day. Now I'm Bitch, Were At The End Of The World, And The Age Never Knows It. Me Amo...Heard I'm God. In The End Your Lettin Me Ignore That Omen.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Carpe Diem! tart, Whore, You'll Fuck. Whores Dream Of.... Hell I'm Bitch. Whores Shall Be Damned. Nice Requiem, Girls Now Found Clit.


it could be a whole new song in reserve its quite catchy lol.

FUCK ME SIDEWAYS!!!

I can't believe it, whoa!

I have played some Beatles and Led Zeppelin backwards to friends over the years, yet they refuse to believe what they hear. The average response I get is it must be a coincidence or an accident or even a practical harmless joke. If this is the response I get with the older tunes I am pretty certain most people will ignore the info on this song in the same way, mainly because most people are happy to live in ignorance, no matter what evidence that you present them. :(

monkfish
25-10-2008, 08:54 AM
Yeah well, whatever. What does this reverse speach actually mean? Why does it say "whores will be damned"? Doesn't make any sense. And we don't hear this music reversed, we don't sing along to it reversed, maybe some freaky bloodline can hear it, maybe it's pop trash created for them to enjoy. The normal version is obvious mind fucking shit for the teenager's right?!

Maybe it's done in a way similar to us subconciously understanding a muddled word, ees tahw i naem?

dane
25-10-2008, 09:04 AM
"and the truth shall set you free" talks abit about how they penetrate through yu and get it into yur sub concious, only for it to seep out into yur concious mind later on, thinking it is your own thoughts and ideas, because yu wernt aware of the fact yu were told..get it? it makes girls believe they are whores and its ok to be whorish etc..

knightofthegrail
25-10-2008, 09:05 AM
This song is indeed just another part of a lost society trying to make lostness a standard in itself.

monkfish
25-10-2008, 09:06 AM
"and the truth shall set you free" talks abit about how they penetrate through yu and get it into yur sub concious, only for it to seep out into yur concious mind later on, thinking it is your own thoughts and ideas, because yu wernt aware of the fact yu were told..get it? it makes girls believe they are whores and its ok to be whorish etc..

See,i even understood what that said subcontiously.
Only kidding;)

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 09:21 AM
"and the truth shall set you free" talks abit about how they penetrate through yu and get it into yur sub concious, only for it to seep out into yur concious mind later on, thinking it is your own thoughts and ideas, because yu wernt aware of the fact yu were told..get it? it makes girls believe they are whores and its ok to be whorish etc..

this is exactly what it is.

lewi
25-10-2008, 02:51 PM
How about some justin sexyback reverse ??

Not as clear as the other but there it is there.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QPunxJCp7cE&feature=related
Singing about whores in reverse it is strange indeed.

Didnt anyone ever wonder why so many short pointless repetitive garbage songs spouting the same line over and over hit the charts ??

Well backmasking is the reason.

So keep buying One line garbage the music companys need you for testing.

danster82
25-10-2008, 03:27 PM
people would probably be more shocked if the normal lyrics where the result of reversing those backwards lyrics :) Its been playing on the radio constant for months now.

1694
25-10-2008, 03:34 PM
The sentances don't make sense. The sounds only sound like you think they do because you are reading the words on the screen.

If we all listend to that song in reverse and wrote down the sounds we heard we would all get totally different meaningless garbage.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 03:45 PM
I so hate this song

I am not a prude. I just think its another cynical ploy to mess with young girls minds.

I havent listened to the reversed version yet, but will do.

I agree with you 100%

can;t stand it. the song creeps the shit out of me. It is so aimed at kids its vile. The vid makes me sick. I actually havnt been able to watch it all the way though because I hate the song that much.

Anyway, the wierd this is that i said to my sister a few weeks back " It sounds like he voice is being played backwards"!!

Creepy.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 03:49 PM
I have a really slow dial-up connection and not a lot of time.

Could someone please paste the lyrics of the reverse version.

I am not a big fan of the song but I personally can't see what all the fuss is about. Anything that promotes girl on girl action is ok with me, just as long as I can join in or watch ;)

Giggity Giggity , alright! :D

lol, i know what you are saying, but, the point is that they are promoting Girl on Girl action, not woman on woman.

Its aimed at kids. Its creepy.

i'm sure one or two of you have sen me rant abot this song on here before.

i have no problem with bi or lesbian women, bt all the shit designed to confuse kinds, uurgh. Its just sick

lewi
25-10-2008, 04:05 PM
Ive posted this before but this is messed up also take a listen .......

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TMOpw3GY0Rk
Hail Satan Hail Satan Can be heard clear as day its slowed down

And Now The Full Backmask

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQxqmOgSFQ&feature=related
Satan Satan Satan Satan !! Shame on you !!

middleway00
25-10-2008, 04:11 PM
this is a waste of time.:o

lewi
25-10-2008, 04:20 PM
People becoming aware of what there really pumping into there minds is not pointless or a waste of time, its a chance for them to wake up and maybe expose much more of this reverse poison so that something can be done about it.

Children listen to this garbage and become infected by subliminal Messages parents should have the right to have this information for there own wellbeing and the wellbeing of there offspring.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 04:30 PM
when I was 14 I was singing this song all the time, yes, I sucked:D.

its wierd. Listen .

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RPOd_GaJ-m0

darketernal
25-10-2008, 04:37 PM
In all the other links put up I can't make out a single word...the Marylin Manson, Obama etc... that is what is unique about the one the OP posted. You can actually hear about half of what they claim she is saying in the text in the video. Which is virtually unheard of with reverse speech for me at least.

schaff
25-10-2008, 04:41 PM
Its time for people to realize that the music, film and entertainment industry are the biggest forms of mind control .These are the images sounds and emotions that are the basis of everyones lives we all listen to music,most people on this forum still watch hollywood movies great programming illuminati style the thing is now they are really creating a non caring unsensative emotionless youth so infatuated by possessions and material things and genreally living their lives at 100mph whilst not looking deeper into the real world we live in. Its all part of the elites plan to keep you from finding your spiritual side where all your love ,compassion and empathy is.Im not saying all musics bad its not its once you get to a certain stage in this industry a lot of musicians and actors are introduced and indoctrinated into the occult some refuse (they either commit suicide,have an accident or lose everthing)most go along cause they will do anything for fame and couldnt care less and then finallly youve got your mind control puppets eg (brittney,maddona)theirs a long list:eek:Also im not saying dont listen to music dont watch films but be aware of what the real message their trying to get across to you concously amd subliminally.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 04:50 PM
In all the other links put up I can't make out a single word...the Marylin Manson, Obama etc... that is what is unique about the one the OP posted. You can actually hear about half of what they claim she is saying in the text in the video. Which is virtually unheard of with reverse speech for me at least.

First one was best:). but there are other versions of it on youtube , eg, one translated the chorus as " I'm a worthless pig". lol.

I cant believe you cant hear " I'm evil believe it " in mansons song. I could without looking at the screen.

Its time for people to realize that the music, film and entertainment industry are the biggest forms of mind control .These are the images sounds and emotions that are the basis of everyones lives we all listen to music,most people on this forum still watch hollywood movies great programming illuminati style the thing is now they are really creating a non caring unsensative emotionless youth so infatuated by possessions and material things and genreally living their lives at 100mph whilst not looking deeper into the real world we live in. Its all part of the elites plan to keep you from finding your spiritual side where all your love ,compassion and empathy is.Im not saying all musics bad its not its once you get to a certain stage in this industry a lot of musicians and actors are introduced and indoctrinated into the occult some refuse (they either commit suicide,have an accident or lose everthing)most go along cause they will do anything for fame and couldnt care less and then finallly youve got your mind control puppets eg (brittney,maddona)theirs a long list:eek:Also im not saying dont listen to music dont watch films but be aware of what the real message their trying to get across to you concously amd subliminally.

Excellently put. :)

ownedtbh
25-10-2008, 05:01 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40364

^^^ best video around showing you about all this. amazing its a must watch if your interested in this stuff

jackflap1980
25-10-2008, 05:22 PM
I found this quite funny. Karma perhaps :D YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

armoured_amazon
25-10-2008, 05:33 PM
I find the reverse thing quite scary, glad I listened to it even though it made me :eek:

I agree with you 100%

can;t stand it. the song creeps the shit out of me. It is so aimed at kids its vile. The vid makes me sick. I actually havnt been able to watch it all the way though because I hate the song that much.

Anyway, the wierd this is that i said to my sister a few weeks back " It sounds like he voice is being played backwards"!!

Creepy.

That song has never sat well with me; in fact I have to turn it off as soon as her voice starts; now I know why. Plus I hate pop lol. Shall I watch the video? I'll have to work myself up to it, reverse speech freaks me out.

:eek:

dondaz
25-10-2008, 05:52 PM
That song is banned in our house. Brain washing little girls. F*****g nonces. As for the idiot singing, I pity her kids if she ever has any! I just showed my missus this and she was like, WTF? She's coming round to this stuff now, especially when it's against kids!

One of the better reverse speech samples out there!

armoured_amazon
25-10-2008, 05:59 PM
How does one go about reversing an audio track?

red_ram
25-10-2008, 06:03 PM
I so hate this song

I am not a prude. I just think its another cynical ploy to mess with young girls minds.



As above.

As much as I like girl-on-girlism.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 06:03 PM
That song has never sat well with me; in fact I have to turn it off as soon as her voice starts; now I know why. Plus I hate pop lol. Shall I watch the video? I'll have to work myself up to it, reverse speech freaks me out.

:eek:

well, I just watched the vid. Oddly enough, th official vid is " not available in your country", but i managed to find a one with bad quality.

It is worse than I thought. I have never really paid full attention to ALL the lyrics either, and they are so bad.

She is hosting the MTV awards here in Liverpool!

How can anyone like her get to host the awards? She#s been around for less than a year.

I am so tempted to go down there and egg her :D, lol. But I'll get called anti-gay or something, even though she isn't gay. Besides, she probably dosn;t even know how evil her messege is. She has probably been programmed or something :rolleyes:

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 06:06 PM
How does one go about reversing an audio track?

this site lets you do it, without even downloading soft ware,

Havnt used it myself though

http://www.talkbackwards.com/

middleway00
25-10-2008, 06:07 PM
well, I just watched the vid. Oddly enough, th official vid is " not available in your country", but i managed to find a one with bad quality.

It is worse than I thought. I have never really paid full attention to ALL the lyrics either, and they are so bad.

She is hosting the MTV awards here in Liverpool!

How can anyone like her get to host the awards? She#s been around for less than a year.

I am so tempted to go down there and egg her :D, lol. But I'll get called anti-gay or something, even though she isn't gay. Besides, she probably dosn;t even know how evil her messege is. She has probably been programmed or something :rolleyes:

Programmed? Flesh bots are real?

UhOH.:eek:

red_ram
25-10-2008, 06:08 PM
My understanding is that the subconscious mind loves a puzzle, and when it hears these words backwards (while the conscious mind enjoys it in frontal), it works out the meaning, kind of like decoding a sigil.

It won't stop me enjoying music, but I do make sure my subconscious's defences are up.

armoured_amazon
25-10-2008, 06:09 PM
I am so tempted to go down there and egg her :D, lol. But I'll get called anti-gay or something, even though she isn't gay. Besides, she probably dosn;t even know how evil her messege is. She has probably been programmed or something :rolleyes:

I'll come with ya! :D

this site lets you do it, without even downloading soft ware,

Havnt used it myself though

http://www.talkbackwards.com/

Excellent. I'm going to see if I say anything backwards in my songs. :eek:

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 06:28 PM
How about some justin sexyback reverse ??

Not as clear as the other but there it is there.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QPunxJCp7cE&feature=related
Singing about whores in reverse it is strange indeed.

Didnt anyone ever wonder why so many short pointless repetitive garbage songs spouting the same line over and over hit the charts ??

Well backmasking is the reason.

So keep buying One line garbage the music companys need you for testing.

Justin Timberlake should be manacled and marched naked into a town square, placed in stocks and ceremonially shot with a ball of his own shit.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. Thanks.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 07:03 PM
Programmed? Flesh bots are real?

UhOH.:eek:

lol, ok, I shoulda said brain washed. :rolleyes:

I'll come with ya! :D



Woo!:D wouldn't it be funny though! hehe. just imagine it. I mean, not very grown up, kinda pointless, but fun!

Justin Timberlake should be manacled and marched naked into a town square, placed in stocks and ceremonially shot with a ball of his own shit.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. Thanks.

I am with you. What an annoying fart.

anonymousoneuk
25-10-2008, 08:26 PM
Backmasked version of the song I Kissed Girl. Praise God Whores This Is God

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtav8RXytQ&feature=related
Strange this version sticks in your head more than the normal version what do you guys make of it ??

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKrqJDeuyY

Aleister Crowely created backmasking !!

Hahhahahahahahahahaha!

Am i the only one how found that hilarious?

I don't think these types of things are designed on a conscious level by anyone.

I think it's arouses from subconscious inspiration given to the artist by the hyperdimensional manipulators/hierarchy.

Peace

:)

anonymousoneuk
25-10-2008, 08:45 PM
You know... I just watched the video for the original song and... You Know..

First thing i want to say your looking at a politicians and people with lots of financial power and thinking they know what's going on.

You are giving them way too much credit.

Even the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, you are giving way too much credit.

If you want to know who are really running the whole show on the physical plane, you should be looking into the CIA, MI5, now they are "secret societies".

Most of who we consider to be Illuminati, are simply pawns, they do nothing important they are figureheads, like the Queen.

The real controllers are mostly unknown and most of their power i'm sure is exercised through "intelligence agencies".

The hyperdimensionals interact with our minds constantly, both the positive ones and the negative ones, they are always making suggestions to our subconscious mind and our etheric psychologies.

Occasionally the negatives slip some suggestion into an artists subconscious that the artists subconscious accepts and gives the conscious mind for expression.

Ofcourse they used to be alot more subtle, like micheal jacksons "beat it", or of you watched the music video with a discerning eye "get together with some of your male friends and masturbate each other".

Now of course there's no need to hide all the sexual suggestion anymore, go kiss your boy friends and have sex with them, ladies girls go do the same with your girlfriends.

Well... It works for girls at this point, wonder how much of a success that song would have been if it was I kissed a boy and i liked it, with a suggestively homo-erotic video? That might even work nowadays no idea.

Peace

:)

armchair philosopher
25-10-2008, 09:00 PM
I don't believe this stuff at all I'm afraid. Come on guys... you could reverse any song and you could loosely hear a vast range of words. It seems 'whore' is a commonly heard word... why isn't it 'horse'? 'Horn'? 'Hoard'? These people are hearing what they want to hear.

This place has taught me a lot, but there are cases in which people almost WANT it to be a big conspiracy, and this is one of those instances.

It doesn't even begin to make sense. How would backwards speech even begin to affect people on a subconscious level? Why do we need subtitles to be 'sure' what these words are? I just tried listening to it without watching the video and it was impossible.

You guys might know something I don't, so feel free to educate me.

infin8_possibility
25-10-2008, 09:30 PM
Kate Perry is signed to Capitol Records part of the EMI group which VIRGIN Records is also intergrated.

Check this pic below of her wielding a knife. Look where the knife is pointing to.

http://www.eyebrowmagazine.com/__data/assets/image/0017/8531/Lives_not_knives_Katy,_lives_not_knives.jpg

I think we know who this girl knowingly or unknowingly answers to. Im guessing the latter... If so poor girl, just like britney and christina and others.

Mo0n5tar
25-10-2008, 09:33 PM
I wondered why this "artist" sprang out of no-where straight to the top of the charts!

Tavistock Institute lyric book no doubt.

itsallundercontrol
25-10-2008, 10:07 PM
anyone know who actually wrote the lyrics?

infin8_possibility
25-10-2008, 10:26 PM
anyone know who actually wrote the lyrics?

Co-written by herself and Dr. Luke (Luke Gottwald) who has written for Leona Lewis and others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Luke

chipstyxx
25-10-2008, 10:27 PM
Sorry I'm not convinced that there is anything sinister or planned in this. I closed my eyes so I wasn't reading the supposed backward lyrics on the youtube vid whilst I listened to the song. That's being impartial right? Unless most people pronounce the word whore as 'whoooooooo er' I really don't see how you can find any of those words in the reversed song.

How would the whole backwards listening thing work anyway, what kind of ability does the brain have to decode backwards speak if at all?

For some reason I thought of the art work from 'a clockwork orange' when I saw her posing with the knife. Probably just an attempted reference at some iconic pop culture. I am not sure she has come from no-where either, alot of musicians /pop tarts have been plugging away for years, it's just that you haven't been exposed to them yet.

I am fully open to the possibility that this is naive bint who has sold her soul to the music industry but that is all, for now.

itsallundercontrol
25-10-2008, 10:29 PM
thanks its interesting that he produced it as well

im off to have a dig around on some other stuff hes produced and co written

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 10:32 PM
It took three minds to make this heap of shit song. lol

Cathy Dennis

http://www.internetwritingjournal.com/cgi-bin/iwjblog.pl?id=825081

Max Martian

Max Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr Luke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Luke

just thought I'd show you this too guys. Her parents aint happy.

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00017712.html

anyone know who actually wrote the lyrics?

Anyone hear of this lesser known "kissed a girl"?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SclQZ4W2VZ0

This one sounds less evil to me.lol. Although the lyrics are kinda the same, this girl is deffo a lesbian and is tellin a tale of her life. katy perry is talking about using a girl and not even knowing her name!!

krakhead
25-10-2008, 10:41 PM
This reminds me of the Judas Priest trial back in the 80's. They were supposed to have put suicide messages in backwards form in their songs.

Here's a clip of singer Rob Halford showing how messages such as 'I asked her for a peppermint' are also found!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bNp3yIsFyiI

size_of_light
25-10-2008, 10:50 PM
It doesn't even begin to make sense. How would backwards speech even begin to affect people on a subconscious level? Why do we need subtitles to be 'sure' what these words are? I just tried listening to it without watching the video and it was impossible.

You guys might know something I don't, so feel free to educate me.

I think there's a theory that the subconscious mind not only processes information the way the conscious mind does, but also upside down, back-to-front and in reverse.

serenevasaline
25-10-2008, 10:52 PM
This reminds me of the Judas Priest trial back in the 80's. They were supposed to have put suicide messages in backwards form in their songs.

Here's a clip of singer Rob Halford showing how messages such as 'I asked her for a peppermint' are also found!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bNp3yIsFyiI

haha, funny =) I've seen this before. Makes me lol

peachped
25-10-2008, 11:05 PM
This reminds me of the Judas Priest trial back in the 80's. They were supposed to have put suicide messages in backwards form in their songs.

Here's a clip of singer Rob Halford showing how messages such as 'I asked her for a peppermint' are also found!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bNp3yIsFyiI

I remember a programme about this trial it showed a bit where Judas Preist were accused of putting "Do it!Do it! Do it!" subliminally into one of their songs.

It was very funny when RH replied in a broad deadpan Brummie accent " Well, do what?" :D

romas
26-10-2008, 12:02 AM
I don't believe this stuff at all I'm afraid. Come on guys... you could reverse any song and you could loosely hear a vast range of words. It seems 'whore' is a commonly heard word... why isn't it 'horse'? 'Horn'? 'Hoard'? These people are hearing what they want to hear.

This place has taught me a lot, but there are cases in which people almost WANT it to be a big conspiracy, and this is one of those instances.

It doesn't even begin to make sense. How would backwards speech even begin to affect people on a subconscious level? Why do we need subtitles to be 'sure' what these words are? I just tried listening to it without watching the video and it was impossible.

You guys might know something I don't, so feel free to educate me.



Same here, whole thing just doesn't add up and I've listene to it w/o reading and it's all gibberish, though english is not my native language...

hw spartan
26-10-2008, 12:29 AM
I found this quite funny. Karma perhaps :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35dx3H9_bjA

hahaha on your belly snake.......haha

armchair philosopher
26-10-2008, 12:30 AM
I think there's a theory that the subconscious mind not only processes information the way the conscious mind does, but also upside down, back-to-front and in reverse.

That may be so, but a) the words are barely audible - the subtitles are rough approximations of the sounds - therefore I think the subconscious mind would be essentially 'deaf' to it, and b) I think it would be far too much of a coincidence for lyrics that make sense played normally to ALSO make sense played backwards. That would require a conspiracy at the very basis of our language.

It is simply a coincidence based on the nature of the sounds we make when we speak. The subtitles barely match the sounds 95% of the time. I agree that mainstream pop is dumbing down the masses but I don't think it's a deliberate effort by the Illuminati in any respect whatsoever. It's just way too far-fetched, not to mention ineffective.

comawhite015
26-10-2008, 01:12 AM
That may be so, but a) the words are barely audible - the subtitles are rough approximations of the sounds - therefore I think the subconscious mind would be essentially 'deaf' to it, and b) I think it would be far too much of a coincidence for lyrics that make sense played normally to ALSO make sense played backwards. That would require a conspiracy at the very basis of our language.

It is simply a coincidence based on the nature of the sounds we make when we speak. The subtitles barely match the sounds 95% of the time. I agree that mainstream pop is dumbing down the masses but I don't think it's a deliberate effort by the Illuminati in any respect whatsoever. It's just way too far-fetched, not to mention ineffective.

Well said. *applause*.

red_ram
26-10-2008, 01:52 AM
I remember a programme about this trial it showed a bit where Judas Preist were accused of putting "Do it!Do it! Do it!" subliminally into one of their songs.

It was very funny when RH replied in a broad deadpan Brummie accent " Well, do what?" :D

Also when he said "If we'd have put a message in, it'd have said "'Buy ten copies of this album!'" :D

It makes me wonder if there are backwards messages hailing Satan in songs that consciously hail Satan, such as in the works of Venom and others.

doryl_roy
26-10-2008, 01:08 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_69yvFZH9U

serenevasaline
26-10-2008, 01:10 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_69yvFZH9U

::D

I was waiting for someone to post this

Gotta love him aintcha

lewi
26-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Heres more information on Backmasking you may all find intresting its apart of the illuminati project featured on youtube it also features the backmasking of G.W.Bush Also Ron Paul heres the link.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx39oi23gMQ

Seems backmasking is also aimed at destroying the lives of the people who use it as well as aimed at there audiences.

armchair philosopher
26-10-2008, 07:42 PM
Heres more information on Backmasking you may all find intresting its apart of the illuminati project featured on youtube it also features the backmasking of G.W.Bush Also Ron Paul heres the link.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx39oi23gMQ

Seems backmasking is also aimed at destroying the lives of the people who use it as well as aimed at there audiences.

That video is ludicrous!

Guys, I am not trying to be negative here. But one of the most dangerous things about being a conspiracy theorist is that it can go too far. I have noticed this a hell of a lot here. Simple and perfectly explainable things can begin to look like a conspiracy and this is one of those things.

I agree that some of that Britney stuff did sound like the subtitles. But I still maintain that reversing speech is bound to bring up some similarities with words spoken in a regular manner.

And come on, that George Bush stuff is just ridiculous. None of what he said made sense ("we need a scientist"!!?), and it sounded very, very loosely like the subtitles at that. Not to mention this stuff was spoken live... you guys think a guy who can barely string a sentence together can orchestrate his speech so that it reads out subliminal messages backwards? If that is the case, there really is no hope for solving the REAL problems.

lewi
01-11-2008, 02:18 AM
Since the song vanished from the first page iam reposting the song just incase people missed out on hearing it.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XZXDOYICeFU

lewi
04-11-2008, 07:03 PM
That video is ludicrous!

Guys, I am not trying to be negative here. But one of the most dangerous things about being a conspiracy theorist is that it can go too far. I have noticed this a hell of a lot here. Simple and perfectly explainable things can begin to look like a conspiracy and this is one of those things.

I agree that some of that Britney stuff did sound like the subtitles. But I still maintain that reversing speech is bound to bring up some similarities with words spoken in a regular manner.

And come on, that George Bush stuff is just ridiculous. None of what he said made sense ("we need a scientist"!!?), and it sounded very, very loosely like the subtitles at that. Not to mention this stuff was spoken live... you guys think a guy who can barely string a sentence together can orchestrate his speech so that it reads out subliminal messages backwards? If that is the case, there really is no hope for solving the REAL problems.


I see your not convinced of the true power these messages have on young minds and how they can affect the thinking of the young here ill show you an example of how this poison spreads.....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7eE3dhys7J8





Its sick and it is spreading ! Young people are easily influenced through these messages carnt you see ?

Mo0n5tar
05-11-2008, 02:33 PM
Actually the original song was quite catchy. But i agree it was created to promote an agenda. There must have been alot of girls who actually went out and did kiss other girls.
strange thing is the singer aparantly was a Christian choir singer so it was quite an odd song for her to launch with as it goes against her faith

Yes backwards it did sound wierd and those did seem to be the words.

I prefer the lyrics of the backwards version lol.

You shouldn't be surprised by that, what would happen if you were brought up in a Patriarchal religion, where you have to please men but also sex is forbidden, suppressing the urges makes em stronger.

Also the whole Catholic religion is based on Sex, Phallic worship, etc, amongst other things.

Meet Mary Vagina:

http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://blifalood.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/maryvag.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHAb8g9MLLN_qVNTWAEyuSp_vrs4g

Mo0n5tar
05-11-2008, 02:35 PM
Check out this Phallic with Kelly Clarkson performing to it!
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/VATICANPENIS.jpg
She was Micky Mouse club fodder like JT and Britney I believe?
source (http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=62582)

pleasuredome
05-11-2008, 02:52 PM
i think it has a great melody. :o

lewi
05-11-2008, 05:18 PM
Music soothes even the most savage of beasts ay !!

Man that a huge penis wish i knew what the rest of the picture was like who was the owner of that giant member !?! :eek:

Mo0n5tar
05-11-2008, 05:51 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/20/svPOPE_narrowweb__300x402,0.jpg
From another occasion i believe, it's Jebus' robe,,,,, ok!

lewi
05-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Why do all the links vanish ??? every video that has been posted has all but vanished and its a making me sad why has it happend anyone know why ??



http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XZXDOYICeFU&feature=related





:confused: :confused:

armoured_amazon
06-11-2008, 02:55 AM
Just saw that sneaky preacher's daughter at the pre-MTV bash. I wanted to tell her off but I had to behave tonight. :D

wideawake
07-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Katie Perry was astride a giant lipstip in the shape of a knob at the awards, she was even standin on cherries and saying that they might pop. Someting not right. Anyways, I have been looking at reversed songs and its strange how i found this thread as i was just reading about it in my paranormal magazine (december issue). Anyone heard Britney in reverse? Gimme more:eek: A very clear orgasm is there.

armoured_amazon
07-11-2008, 08:18 PM
Forgot to add: the pre-MTV business meeting (the night before) was at a skyscraper restaurant at the tallest peak in Liverpool, overlooking the city (34th and 35th floors); Panoramic, Eye in the sky. People I noticed - Killers, Katie Perry, Kid Rock. Is there something about Ks? No, I wasn't meant to be there lmao.

xdnax
08-11-2008, 02:39 AM
SUPRISINGLY FLUENT AND PREVAILENT....damn....thats a bit fucked up. that song practically made sense backwards too...madddddddnesss.

lewi
09-11-2008, 07:23 PM
SUPRISINGLY FLUENT AND PREVAILENT....damn....thats a bit fucked up. that song practically made sense backwards too...madddddddnesss.

Everyones reaction to it so far well except a few who dont think its real.;)

Wish i could of gone to the MTV award;s just to see the subliminal messages would of been fun.

will have to find some backmasking of the bands that showed up like the killers see if there is anything strange going on :)

lewi
10-11-2008, 02:30 AM
Anyone think its strange that this one song evil backwards as it maybe catapulted this young woman into the top of the charts and made her the Host of the MTV Music awards 2008.

One song and your Hosting such a massive major event if that aint suspect i dont know what is ........ :eek:

humito
10-11-2008, 03:53 AM
what a load of bollocks.............listen to it without the suggestion of reading the words as well and you will hear nothing but drivel.
so what if she kissed a girl and liked it....?? I dont think its a corrupting song at all forwards. its just crap either way you listen to it however .........whats wrong with celebrating sexuality? whats better ,freedom of expression (sexual or otherwise) and exploring who you are or conforming to sterotypical reality models....i suppose young girls should all grow up to be doting wives to their husbands and not have an opinion or choice..........lets face it if you have not got any bisexual or lesbian tendancies hearing a song about someone who does is not going to make you rush out and start snogging other women is it?..............also why is everyone so scared of the occult anyway...........Yes it can be and is used for sinister motives and is used in the advertising and music industries a lot......take the powerfull sigil of the mc donalds arches for example..........but anyone can use it too as long as you harm no one its fine...........we should all learn how to use magick,
for our spirtual uplift and to manifest the infinite abundance of the universe for ourselves the planet and the greater good of all........perhaps then we can see how the TPTB subvert it and use it unethically...............:

jackflap1980
10-11-2008, 07:59 AM
This link (http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm) has some quite interesting examples of more backward messages in popular tunes.

Another One Bites The Dust by Queen apparently contains "Its fun to smoke marijuana." ...I don't doubt it!

Popeye Theme Song - "Give me a f**k. Give me a f**k now." ...not too sure about that one.

armoured_amazon
10-11-2008, 08:34 AM
what a load of bollocks.............listen to it without the suggestion of reading the words as well and you will hear nothing but drivel.
so what if she kissed a girl and liked it....?? I dont think its a corrupting song at all forwards. its just crap either way you listen to it however .........whats wrong with celebrating sexuality? whats better ,freedom of expression (sexual or otherwise) and exploring who you are or conforming to sterotypical reality models....i suppose young girls should all grow up to be doting wives to their husbands and not have an opinion or choice..........lets face it if you have not got any bisexual or lesbian tendancies hearing a song about someone who does is not going to make you rush out and start snogging other women is it?..............also why is everyone so scared of the occult anyway...........Yes it can be and is used for sinister motives and is used in the advertising and music industries a lot......take the powerfull sigil of the mc donalds arches for example..........but anyone can use it too as long as you harm no one its fine...........we should all learn how to use magick,
for our spirtual uplift and to manifest the infinite abundance of the universe for ourselves the planet and the greater good of all........perhaps then we can see how the TPTB subvert it and use it unethically...............:

I came back to it and heard every word clearly - some I heard differently but the message was the same.

humito
10-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Since most people do not listen to their music backward, the belief in such messages seems to be predicated upon one or two false notions. Either [1] the brain can be influenced subliminally by garbled words whose meaning is directly grasped by the subconscious or [2] the conscious mind translates clear speech into reverse speech where the "true" meaning is understood by the subconscious mind. In either case, the subconscious mind allegedly then directs the conscious mind to believe bad things or do bad deeds. There is no evidence that such mechanisms exist.

The belief in the existence and efficacy of backward satanic messages probably derives from the ancient practice of mocking Christianity by saying prayers backward at the witch's Sabbath. The belief is mainly popular among certain fundamentalist preachers who cannot look at anything without wondering how Satan is involved. Perception is heavily influenced by one's belief system. We not only see what we want to see and hear what we want to hear, we see what we expect to see.

The Beatles used tapes played backward for musical effect in some of their recordings, though they allegedly put in backward or subliminal messages announcing Paul McCartney's death when he was much alive. Jimmy Page, guitarist and occultist, is said to have inserted the backward message "here's to my sweet Satan" into his "Stairway to Heaven" song. The former was clearly intentional; the latter is said to be accidental by many of those who have listened before being told what to listen for.

One practical problem emerged with using this backhanded way to communicate: the only way to hear the messages is to destroy your record. Fortunately, the digital age arrived and eliminated that problem while creating another: now it is first-grade simple to find hidden messages in every kind of speech.

humito
10-11-2008, 02:51 PM
http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm here is a link to a backmasking site that has a few of the more well known ones......you can listen to the songs forward and backwards listen backwards without the lyrics shown first to see if you can hear them yourself then with the alledged lyrics added......on first listen they are mostly gibberish then when you see the lyrics on screen as if by magic you can make it out and that is what you will hear every other time.........except the hilarious message from pink floyd in empty spaces..............lol have fun

humito
10-11-2008, 03:08 PM
Pareidolia is a type of illusion ,obscure stimulus being perceived as something clear and distinct. For example, in the discolorations of a burnt tortilla one sees the face of Jesus Christ. Or one sees the image of Mother Teresa or Ronald Reagan in a cinnamon bun or a man in the moon.

Under ordinary circumstances, pareidolia provides a psychological explanation for many delusions based upon sense perception. For example, it explains many UFO sightings, as well as the THE HEARING OF SINISTER MESSAGES ON RECORDS played backwards. Pareidolia explains Elvis, Bigfoot, and Loch Ness Monster sightings. It explains numerous religious apparitions and visions. And it explains why some people see a face or a building in a photograph of the Cydonia region of Mars.

Under clinical circumstances, some psychologists encourage pareidolia as a means to understanding a patient, e.g., the Rorschach ink blot test.

Astronomer Carl Sagan claimed that the human tendency to see faces in tortillas, clouds, cinnamon buns, and the like is an evolutionary trait. He writes:

As soon as the infant can see, it recognizes faces, and we now know that this skill is hardwired in our brains. Those infants who a million years ago were unable to recognize a face smiled back less, were less likely to win the hearts of their parents, and less likely to prosper. These days, nearly every infant is quick to identify a human face, and to respond with a goony grin (Sagan 1995: 45).

I think Sagan is right about the tendency to recognize faces, but I don't see any reason to think there is an evolutionary advantage in seeing replicas of paintings, ghosts, demons, and the like, in inanimate objects. There is, of course, an evolutionary advantage in seeing images of dinner or predators against a varied environmental background. There would be no advantage for, say, a hawk to be dive-bombing shadows on rocks, however. It seems likely that the modern mind is making associations with shapes, lines, shadows, and the like that are connected to current desires, interests, hopes
r misperception involving a vague or obsessions, and the like. Most people recognize illusions for what they are, but some become fixated on the reality of their perception and turn an illusion into a delusion. A little bit of critical thinking, however, should convince most reasonable people that a potato that looks like the Hindu god Ganesh, a cinnamon bun that looks like mother Teresa, or a burnt area on a tortilla that looks like Jesus are accidents and without significance. It is more likely that the Virgin Mary one sees in the reflection of a mirror or on the floor of an apartment complex or in the clouds has been generated from one's own imagination than that a person who has been dead for 2,000 years should manifest herself in such a mundane and useless fashion.

humito
10-11-2008, 07:08 PM
Oh, I'm completely shameless!' laughs Katy Perry, agreeing with the idea I've just voiced that pop music only works if the performer is genuine about it, without a trace of shame or sheepishness. 'I love pop music. I've been around kids that hate selling records and enjoy being the starving artist. But I want to play stadiums. I want to sell records. I want to be a pop girl!'

Perry has just done a morning photo session for OMM in a gloriously kitsch house in Philadelphia that we borrowed for the occasion. She had arrived in her pyjamas looking bleary after yet another night on the tour bus, but quickly perked up when she saw her surroundings, posing in the circus-themed kitchen with the owner's cockatiel perched on her shoulder and swivelling round so the camera could see the big strawberry-shaped pockets on the back of her cute new shorts - 'I want to show off my berries!'

The look is sexy, yet sweet; both girly and powerful; a beguiling mix of bubblegum and burlesque. She can pout and part those scarlet lips like a pro, but then she'll suddenly undermine the vamp image by opening her blue eyes wide and giving the camera a kooky look that is pure I Love Lucy. Or rather it would be, if Lucille Ball had dyed her hair raven black, had 'Jesus' tattooed on her wrist and a single at the top of the US charts declaring, 'I kissed a girl'.

A smart, perky 23-year-old with a cheeky sense of humour, a strong, throaty voice and an ear for anthemic hooks, Perry looks likely to fulfil her pop ambitions this year. Her single was in its fourth week at the top of the Billboard charts when we met at the end of last month, and even though it isn't due to drop here for another three weeks, it's already getting so much radio play that workmen and cabbies across the UK can be caught singing that they kissed a girl, they liked it - and that they hope their boyfriend don't mind it.

Inevitably, the song has caused controversy, outraging the self-appointed guardians of American morality who say it encourages impressionable young girls to experiment with same-sex snogging. More depressingly, the small but vocal section of the gay community that seems to search for things to be offended by has accused her of exploiting lesbianism for straight titillation. Both sides have missed the point, says Perry: the song is about drunken curiosity, not a call to change sexual orientation.

'I'm talking about the way girls are really touchy-feely and sisterly. Especially when we're growing up. We're holding hands, we're having sleepovers, we're doing choreographed dance moves in our pyjamas, we're painting each other's nails and practising kissing on our arms - or maybe practising kissing on one another. It wasn't something that we were doing for the sake of anybody else because we were scared of boys. I know I was scared of boys! My first kiss was with a boy, and he almost swallowed me alive. I wish I had kissed that girl I had the girl-crush on when I was growing up. I would have been much more prepared for my dating life, I think.'

Female musicians, she says, are expected to become poster girls for good living. 'What happened to being rock'n'roll?' she muses. 'I play music, I'm not running for President. If only the world would stop walking on eggshells and get a sense of humour. Everyone has their shield up and they're just like: "Offend me! I'm ready to be offended!"'

There is also a certain double standard at play here. Lil Wayne's 'Lollipop', is just a couple of places below her in the US chart, yet his ode to oral sex is not attracting the same attention. Perhaps the guardians of Christian morality think the kind of kids who listen to rap are already beyond saving or they just can't decode the language. 'Lil Wayne's not talking about a real lollipop,' Perry says indignantly. 'He's talking about his dick! All I'm talking about is a simple kiss.'

Katy Hudson grew up in Santa Barbara, California (Perry is her mother's maiden name, adopted to avoid confusion with the actress Kate Hudson). The middle child of two travelling Methodist ministers, she lived a sheltered life, with the radio tuned to Christian stations and secular music channels blocked from the household TV. She began performing in church.

'I was singing standards like "Oh Happy Day". That was my only door into music. I didn't know that there was a New Kids on the Block out there because the people that I surrounded myself with had the same upbringing [as me] - all gospel and Christian music.'

In her early teens she began travelling to Nashville - the hub of America's thriving Christian music industry - to work with other songwriters. In 2001 she released her first album, Katy Hudson, a collection of devotional tunes. It wasn't a big deal, she shrugs, just one part of a busy adolescence. It sold only a few hundred copies.

'It was sold out of the back seat of someone's car, practically, and just after the record came out, the label went bankrupt. I'm not ashamed of it - everyone's looking for me to be, "Well, I'm so ashamed of it and that's why I kissed a girl!" No way! I still have "Jesus" tattooed on my wrist. And I still have a faith and a foundation of my own.'

Still, she was also starting discover that there was more to music - more to life - than gospel. She'd been sneaking secular music into her bedroom to play, stuffing her duvet into the crack under her door to muffle the sound. Then she had a revelation: she found a song and an artist who showed her a whole universe of new possibilities. 'It was a moment where everything kind of went in slow motion,' she enthuses. 'The clouds moved away, the sun started shining and I was like: 'I've found it! I've found an artist I want to be like.' Everybody has that one person they want to be, that poster on the wall: Elvis, Madonna. For me it was a song called "Killer Queen" - I wanted to be like Freddie Mercury.'

Later she had a love affair with the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds and began exploring female-fronted rock: Alanis Morissette, No Doubt, Garbage, the Cranberries as well as older acts like Heart, Joan Jett, Pat Benatar and Cyndi Lauper. 'I like women who are very strong, confident, fun,' she says. 'People who have their own stamp.'

But it has always come back to Freddie, which may explain her own well-developed sense of camp. A current favourite on the tour bus is the documentary Paris is Burning, which examines the 'voguing' dance craze in New York in the late 1980s and the drag queens and transvestites who led it. 'It just amazing!' she exclaims. 'The things they say, the way they live their lives with such a fierceness. It's very, very bold. Whenever anyone does my makeup, I say I want to be a couple of degrees away from being a drag queen. I want fun on my face! None of this natural stuff.'

Her parents may have been strict, but when Perry dropped out of school at 17 and moved to Los Angeles to further her pop career, she did so - if not quite with their blessing - with their permission. As a result they are still close, and she talks of them warmly. 'They're great. I mean, they still pray for me. They have their thoughts on who I will be and what they want me to be. But I have my own thoughts on that, too. I stopped trying to change them at 21, because I was like: "You're happy. You love what you do, and I respect that. You're living your life and I'm living mine."'

She says they weren't surprised by the content of her new album One of the Boys. 'They've always known I had a big mouth, and a kind of quirky outlook on life.' They were away preaching in Malaysia just before the album's release, so missed their daughter's meteoric rise. When they came to the launch party in LA, she laughs, what shocked them was not so much the lyrics as the amount of attention it was getting.

Like Alanis Morissette without the anger ('I have angst, but it's not my main message. It's a bit boring, I think.'), a Pink without the need to blame her parents ('I had a great upbringing, I'm fine with it.'), Perry's feisty, upbeat music is the kind that Lily Allen might have produced had she grown up in Christian California.

The songs are confessional slices from Perry's diary, served up with a healthy dose of self-mocking humour. 'I'm out on my own again,' she sings on her hangover song 'Lost', 'face down in the porcelain.' Elsewhere, she sings about waking up after a drunken trip to Vegas and wondering whether the ring on her finger means she's done a Britney and got married ('Waking up in Vegas'); and her doomed relationship with a metrosexual man who steals her accessories is lampooned with a jaunty chorus that runs 'you're so gay - and you don't even like boys' ('Ur So Gay').

Her overnight success has been a long time coming. After settling in LA, she signed a deal with Island and then another with Columbia before finally finding the right home on Virgin. '[My previous labels] had me doing the dog-and-pony show of "if you do this, we'll do your solo record". I wanted to do that record, so I sang with other people, I tried out all kinds of different bands, but it wasn't ever right like it is now.'

In her seven years in LA, she saw friends release three albums while she waited to complete her first; she watched careers ebb and flow. 'At the time I thought I was failing, but I'm glad I didn't put a record out when I was 17, 18, 19. I feel I have more of a point to my existence now, and I definitely didn't have the songs then like I do now. I'd just been like flexing the muscle of songwriting and there comes a point when you're ready, to run that race.'

Right now she is on a marathon: six weeks into the Warped tour, with four more weeks to go. A travelling circus of around 100 bands, skateboarders and market stalls, Warped is a US institution that has run every summer since 1995. It's a gruelling experience: the bands aren't given their time slot until the day and the stages always have two lots of gear set up - as one act plays, the previous one rapidly packs up their gear and the next one starts setting up.

'I was like "Holy shit! Am I going to survive this?"' says Perry, 'Because I know bands that come back and they're just exhausted afterwards. There's none of the props and production values I'll have in the future. There's no sound-check, you just set up, play your 35-minute set and get the hell off. I'm usually following the last screamo hardcore punk band, facing this sea of black hoodies, and I'm in this little dress and trying to jump off the monitors like the boys. See, I have a Les Paul [guitar] too - but it's fucking bubblegum pink!'

Perry has the added pressure of a hit single. Her mornings are mostly taken up with interviews, photo sessions and promotional meet-and-greets; her afternoons with performing; her evenings with travelling vast distances to the next venue. Sleep, she says wryly, has been the main casualty. 'I'm using a lot of under-eye cream.'

Many artists in her situation would have bailed out of the tour by now, but Perry is determined to see it through. While her boyfriend, Travis McCoy, is also on the tour with his band Gym Class Heroes (she makes a cameo appearance in the promo for their recent US hit 'Cupid's Chokehold'), her motivation to see the tour through isn't so much to stand by her man - 'I'm not a needy girl, we Hudsons are very independent' - but more to show she can stand equal to any of them. 'They're saying this is the worst tour I'll ever do,' she says with some relish. 'I may be a pop girl, but I'm surviving Warped. And I don't think many of them bitches could!'

A few hours later Perry struts on stage in Camden, just over the river from Philadelphia, waving a pink parasol in the air. The sound quality is terrible but her energy is contagious, and soon she has her pink guitar strapped on and is rocking out with the best of them. There is a moment when some boys start chanting the name of the next band but they are quickly shouted down by the rest of the crowd. 'My fans are better than your fans,' she says archly, before leading the whole audience in a singalong version of 'Ur So Gay'.

For many of the bands here, Warped will be a career highlight; for Perry, it's clearly just the start. She has plans, lots of plans. There will be an acoustic album at some point; more theatrical tours with real production values; and with the next album, she'll be able to work with some of the bigger producers she failed to snare this time, explore even bolder themes with the same humour and honesty. 'It doesn't have to be sexual,' she grins. 'Just bold.

It's been a long journey, she adds, 'But the reason I kept going was that void for me was never filled. There was never that girl that I wanted to see on stage.' And now there is. Freddie Mercury, I think, would have been proud.

lewi
10-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Its not the girl but the music company behind her she may have been the singer but its the writers at fault as always she isnt the one to blame here she just sang the song. The problem is the lyrics that are in the mix that brings her image down ..... she might not even know these words exist reversed to tell you the truth i was also shocked they were there as it seems where many others judging from the replys to this thread but it can be said that her raise to fame threw one song stands out and that alone makes you wonder what the hell is going on with this girl.

this is not the first time she has sang about being gay she has another song ill post about the subject but its the issue of what the hell are these creature behind her trying to put across to the general public !?

There hidden messages presented by such an innocent person as this girl makes it more saseptable to enter the minds of the young as she becomes a role model to millions of kids across the globe.

Heres that link i was saying about .....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kDN4jI5vDnY

humito
10-11-2008, 08:49 PM
See my post on this phenomenon above the interview...........the messages are just not there........youve been suckered by suggestion lol

humito
10-11-2008, 09:00 PM
you can find evidence of the phenomenon of paredolia in any song or spoken word speech .............experiment yourself and find out.

armoured_amazon
10-11-2008, 10:24 PM
you can find evidence of the phenomenon of paredolia in any song or spoken word speech .............experiment yourself and find out.
I want to reverse my songs but I'm scared! :D

humito
11-11-2008, 12:16 AM
I want to reverse my songs but I'm scared! :D lol..........found this, according to new research if really coherent messages appear in backwards speech etc not just the phenomena previously discussed , it could be a way our brains have of cummunicating our subconcious thoughts and desires .......perhaps this is why people ( not me by the way) can hear kate perry going on about satanic sluts or whatever lol............perhaps she is subconciously reacting to her strict upbringing by a religious family and rebelling against daddy subconciously..........I dont think its anything sinister however............do it to your own music and find your innermost thoughts desires lol :D :eek: lol

What is Reverse Speech?

It has been called the discovery of the 7th sense. The research into this phenomenon has been described as being of "Nobel calibre". It has been featured in numerous publications around the world, and in the United States it became a household name in the late 90s. It is called Reverse Speech, the phenomenon of hidden backward messages in speech. It initially gained worldwide fame in the early 80s as those strange backward messages in rock and roll. Since that time, research has progressed significantly and it is now known to exist in all forms of human speech.

If human speech is recorded and played backwards, mixed amongst the gibberish at regular intervals can be heard very clear statements. These statements usually appear in short sentence form and are nearly always related to the forward speech. It appears constantly throughout language, so much so in fact, that it is believed to be a natural part of our speech processes.

The pioneer and 20 year veteran of this field, Australian David John Oates, describes Reverse Speech as another form of human communication. He states that language is bi-level, forward and reverse. As the human brain constructs the sounds of speech, it forms those sounds in such a way that two messages are delivered simultaneously. One forwards, which is the conscious mind speaking, and the other in reverse, which is the unconscious mind speaking.

The applications of this discovery are exciting. On the surface level, it can act as a sort of Truth Detector as Reverse Speech will usually correct the inconsistencies of forward speech. If a lie is spoken forwards, the truth may be communicated in reverse. If pertinent facts are left out of forward speech these may also be spoken in reverse. It can reveal hidden motive and agenda and other conscious thought processes. At deeper levels, Reverse Speech can reveal thought patterns that are unconscious, including reasons behind behaviour and disease. This information can be used to greatly enhance the therapeutic and healing processes.

Although still a new and emerging field, Reverse Speech is already making its mark felt in many areas. It has been used successfully in business negotiations and corporate mergers as means of providing extra information. In the state of Oregon, it has been used in criminal investigation and its results independently verified by DNA testing in one case.

Reverse Speech has now come back to Australia, where it was initially discovered. If you are looking for a new and challenging career, you might want to consider training and becoming one of the pioneers of this field. If you have an important decision to make or behavioural issue you want address, Reverse Speech may be able to help you too.

The Theory of Reverse Speech and Speech Complementarity.

(1) Human speech has two disctinctive yet complementary functions and modes. The Overt mode is spoken forwards and is primarily under conscious control. The Covert mode is spoken backward and is not under conscious control. The backward mode of speech occurs simultaneously with the forward mode and is a reversal of the forward speech sounds.

(2) These two modes of speech, forward and backward, are dependent upon each other and form an integral part of human communication. One mode cannot be fully understood without the other mode. In the dynamics of interpersonal communication, both modes of speech combined communicate the total psyche of the person, conscious as well as unconscious.

(3) Covert speech develops before overt speech. Children speak backwards before they do forwards. Then, as forward speech commences, the two modes of speech gradually combine into one, forming an overall bi-level communication process.

armoured_amazon
11-11-2008, 12:23 AM
lol..........found this, according to new research if really coherent messages appear in backwards speech etc not just the phenomena previously discussed , it could be a way our brains have of cummunicating our subconcious thoughts and desires .......

That's why I'm skeered!!!! :D It will be freaky to hear my subconscious in an audible fashion lol.

re: The last part of your post, I was a lazy child. I didn't speak until I was three, lol!

humito
11-11-2008, 01:03 AM
oh dear............lol, best leave it be then x

adsy
11-11-2008, 08:22 PM
What i dont understand though, dont know if im just missing something, but are these song made purposely to have a reverse meaning? and if so, how do they know all the right things to say?!

netta
12-11-2008, 05:06 AM
What i dont understand though, dont know if im just missing something, but are these song made purposely to have a reverse meaning? and if so, how do they know all the right things to say?!
Yeah, that's what I was wondering too.
Also, does anyone know of any good free software that lets you listen to songs ETC in reverse?

haukipesukone
12-11-2008, 05:41 AM
Are you sure it is actually the song in reverse, and not the original song reversed and manipulated to sound like something?

I find it hard to believe it would affect people even if a song had alternative lyrics when played backwards. Most people don't listen to songs backwards, you know.

armoured_amazon
12-11-2008, 09:09 AM
Are you sure it is actually the song in reverse, and not the original song reversed and manipulated to sound like something?

I find it hard to believe it would affect people even if a song had alternative lyrics when played backwards. Most people don't listen to songs backwards, you know.

But the brain is capable of listening to it without you realising. Our thought patterns are not just linear. Lots of people used to reverse vinyl albums and hear the reversed messages on songs, without manipulating by software. :)

haukipesukone
12-11-2008, 09:35 AM
But the brain is capable of listening to it without you realising. Our thought patterns are not just linear. Lots of people used to reverse vinyl albums and hear the reversed messages on songs, without manipulating by software. :)

That's what I've heard. I've also heard the Americans landed on the moon in sixties. I've heard a lone gunman killed JFK...

armoured_amazon
12-11-2008, 09:53 AM
That's what I've heard. I've also heard the Americans landed on the moon in sixties. I've heard a lone gunman killed JFK...

So you don't believe messages can be hidden in music in reversed speech patterns. That's fine. I expect your speech patterns developed in antithesis to every other human's too...

lewi
12-11-2008, 02:42 PM
She was at the Serpentine Gallery Summer Party in 2007 is it just a name of a party or something more behind the scene. I know her music really took off afterwards.

For people to think that this reverse speech thing is all just mixed up BS then they havent even looked into the subject properly. kissed a girl is now a lyrically empty song according to the powers that be and there interviewer lackys but we know diffrent right folks. ;)

There was a link to a reverse site for wav files posted up back somewhere in the mists of the the start of this thread hope ya find it.

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 03:48 PM
IMO its not really that revealing, and im quite surprised at some of the "shocked" comments here.... I don't make all the words out and if you wanted to you could make what she says to be something else like the first part could be...

"He's got Old".... and it sounds every bit the same as "Praise God"...

and there is no way you would hear all those words if the text was not there for you to try and hear them...

I am not sure if there is anything in reversing sounds, there might be some relevance of it in terms of vibrations as there is with lots of sounds ...

But until I hear a real theory as to how its done and what it means then I just think its over analitical.

And why would playing it forward have the same effect as playing it backwards and scrutinising any word you can try to make out....

are the artist righting lyrics backwards first?

I dont really see what the whole deal is with this, what is being implied here?

humito
12-11-2008, 04:15 PM
most of it is pareidolia........some of it is just the subconcious of the artist at work as you can find reversed speech in most forward spoken word too............apparently its all part of how we communicate,we learn to speak backwardsfirst as kids before we speak forwards and eventually the 2 forms of speech combine.........in studies it can quiet often reveal the reverse of what is said forwards or reveal are real intentions and thoughts.Thats not to say that it is also put into music on purpose too or that the subconcious mind of some artists is being controlled by some evil agency lol.......probably,
In the case of Kate Perry i think pareidolia is involved and a bit of her subconcious at play ,judging the content of the lyrics forward and her strict upbringing by religious parents......shes just rebelling.IMO

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 06:17 PM
most of it is pareidolia........some of it is just the subconcious of the artist at work as you can find reversed speech in most forward spoken word too............apparently its all part of how we communicate,we learn to speak backwardsfirst as kids before we speak forwards and eventually the 2 forms of speech combine.........in studies it can quiet often reveal the reverse of what is said forwards or reveal are real intentions and thoughts.Thats not to say that it is also put into music on purpose too or that the subconcious mind of some artists is being controlled by some evil agency lol.......probably,
In the case of Kate Perry i think pareidolia is involved and a bit of her subconcious at play ,judging the content of the lyrics forward and her strict upbringing by religious parents......shes just rebelling.IMO

well that's fair enough but does not really explain it as if you were to take the words she is using and reverse them one by one and sink them up they are probably nothing like what has been heard here... its purely what has been made out by the mix there after being reversed.... also the rythum of what is being said...

I'm not ruling out that such a concept could be real within reason within subconscious, like you say... but there are some beautiful songs that have been in people subconscious for years that have been given bad messages reversed, again with very vague translations.....

also within the same way of looking at it you could say that the messages being reversed are indeed what they are ...reversed... such as the meaning as well...

for example the song in this case is about a women sticking up got her right to kiss another girl and does not see any wrong in it.... and the reverse meaning is ... she is whoring her self... and all that being against god bullshit...

i just need more incite before judging people through this..

I know if I saw people judging me through reversing my songs and working out what I was saying I would be a bit freaked out.

lewi
12-11-2008, 07:36 PM
They are not her songs tho she didn't write them and also the reverse is not for the public to listen too outright its a hidden poison for developing young minds and its for the adpets to enjoy and nobody else.

It can also be used to pass messages around the world to the other elites when you hear a presidents speech or ministers reading of a script they havent been wrote by them but for them so any idiot can pass on the hidden messages.

humito
12-11-2008, 08:02 PM
http://www.backwardmessages.com/home.php

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 09:12 PM
They are not her songs tho she didn't write them

well maybe so, but thats not the point..

and also the reverse is not for the public to listen too outright its a hidden poison for developing young minds and its for the adpets to enjoy and nobody else.

this is you view and fair enough, but there is nothing really to say this is in the slightest bit true... don't get me wrong im not saying things like this are just not possible, I am very open to such things, but just need to to go by than what i see, like i say if you asked two people to work out the words and then put both of them together i would bet you anything they would do different... yet both work as this one does.


It can also be used to pass messages around the world to the other elites when you hear a presidents speech or ministers reading of a script they havent been wrote by them but for them so any idiot can pass on the hidden messages.

but there is enough in the normal message to pass messages to... forward words than control peoples thoughts...

what are you implying people are "really" hearing when they hear this track out of interest?

lewi
12-11-2008, 09:28 PM
Reverse speech can describe unconscious subjects such as personality patterns and behavioral agenda, it can reveal hidden memory and experiences, and it can also describe the state of the physical body.Used in conjunction with hypnosis it can be used as an extremely powerful and pernament [sic] form of behavioral change. Throw the CD on Repeat anyone !

http://skepdic.com/reversespeech.html

Reverse speech is used at black masses you see your not dealing with normal people here your dealing with something alittle more out there if you get my meaning and they dont see the world the way you and i do or hear it for that matter.

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 09:40 PM
Reverse speech can describe unconscious subjects such as personality patterns and behavioral agenda, it can reveal hidden memory and experiences, and it can also describe the state of the physical body.Used in conjunction with hypnosis it can be used as an extremely powerful and pernament [sic] form of behavioral change. Throw the CD on Repeat anyone !

http://skepdic.com/reversespeech.html

Reverse speech is used at black masses you see your not dealing with normal people here your dealing with something alittle more out there if you get my meaning and they dont see the world the way you and i do or hear it for that matter.



some interesting info there...

but it does not really make sense of this situation... as you can make out words of what you want to hear.... there is no set words here.... and people can interpret them differently...


I mean does this mean that God subconsciously means Dog?

in order for the subconscious mind to create something surely it can take a subconscious mind to hear it in a particular way and there for, the message can be different for everyone...

there for, i could pick up on positive messages and you could pic up on negative from the same song, depending on what you are thinking about the material.

lewi
12-11-2008, 09:51 PM
some interesting info there...

but it does not really make sense of this situation... as you can make out words of what you want to hear.... there is no set words here.... and people can interpret them differently...


I mean does this mean that God subconsciously means Dog?

in order for the subconscious mind to create something surely it can take a subconscious mind to hear it in a particular way and there for, the message can be different for everyone...

there for, i could pick up on positive messages and you could pic up on negative from the same song, depending on what you are thinking about the material.

Your eyes see things upsidedown but your brain reverses the image so you see upright, take a book and turn it upsidedown and you will still be able to read that book perfectly all the way threw once your adjusted to the view try it and see.

It seems all the mesages have been negative so far that people have found hidden away in the reverse however not to the subconscious. Its the people who sing it that is the positive side they make you feel happy while there acting away in the videos and there nice voices but spin it back and see the negative side.

Once your aware you are less effected by the hidden influences well you can hope you are anyway.

humito
12-11-2008, 09:51 PM
In this particular instance i believe most of the song backwards is gibberish.........as you would expect and is the case wit most reversed speech.......amongst the gibberish however in most cases some words are made out .All i can here is' whores like me'.which is just her subconcious at work. I dont think its anything sinister in this particular case and not a proper example of backmasking .

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 09:55 PM
here

you can also translate it as this

He's got, He's got old, with his gun

that sounds just as accurate as what the other guy put probably more if you ask me..


and if I wanted to i could translate the rest different i could ..

lewi
12-11-2008, 10:10 PM
here

you can also translate it as this

He's got, He's got old, with his gun

that sounds just as accurate as what the other guy put probably more if you ask me..


and if I wanted to i could translate the rest different i could ..

This song is aimed at girls so i can see how the words of the reverse is so potent to there minds. If you hear something else then maybe thats because a mans brain is not the same as womens.

A mans mindset is more for the forward singing i kissed a girl grabs the males attention but the reverse for girls could be extreme conditioning.

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 10:20 PM
This song is aimed at girls so i can see how the words of the reverse is so potent to there minds. If you hear something else then maybe thats because a mans brain is not the same as womens.

exactly.. although I disagree about my words not being as potent... as men will no doubt be in women's subconscious..

Like I say im not scoffing at the idea, I just don't think people really get what's its about and lets face it its not something that would be easy to grasp..

lewi
12-11-2008, 10:36 PM
exactly.. although I disagree about my words not being as potent... as men will no doubt be in women's subconscious..

Like I say im not scoffing at the idea, I just don't think people really get what's its about and lets face it its not something that would be easy to grasp..

Humito has proved and disproved this theory ten times over :D

I know its hard to understand what this reverse singing is all about when your first faced with it I was just as confused as you are now when i came accross the concept of reverse speech.

But with a little help from others I gained insights into things I never knew where there before. No scoffing open mind approach is the always the best way to proceed

http://www.reversespeech.com/Children_Reversals.htm

Check this out it will help you and others awaken to the idea of what this truly is all about.

thirdwave
12-11-2008, 10:54 PM
Humito has proved and disproved this theory ten times over :D

I know its hard to understand what this reverse singing is all about when your first faced with it I was just as confused as you are now when i came accross the concept of reverse speech.

But with a little help from others I gained insights into things I never knew where there before. No scoffing open mind approach is the always the best way to proceed

http://www.reversespeech.com/Children_Reversals.htm

Check this out it will help you and others awaken to the idea of what this truly is all about.



ok, so in a nut shell, what do you think is revealed in reverse speech?

lewi
12-11-2008, 11:13 PM
ok, so in a nut shell, what do you think is revealed in reverse speech?

The creators programing technique for all to hear and it dont matter if you slow it down or speed it up it will be all there to hear and in this case i hear that the words match with the programing. ;)

thirdwave
13-11-2008, 12:05 AM
The creators programing technique for all to hear and it dont matter if you slow it down or speed it up it will be all there to hear and in this case i hear that the words match with the programing. ;)

so you mean who ever wrote the song deliberately put the programming in there?

lewi
13-11-2008, 12:11 AM
so you mean who ever wrote the song deliberately put the programming in there?

No doupt the guy is an adept in the black arts, she had little influence in the songs creation afterall she is no musician and live she isnt that great a singer either its seems to me they have a new puppet and the mass media like new puppets to play with..... So how is your band thirdwave working on backmasks yet ????

thirdwave
13-11-2008, 01:35 PM
No doupt the guy is an adept in the black arts, she had little influence in the songs creation afterall she is no musician and live she isnt that great a singer either its seems to me they have a new puppet and the mass media like new puppets to play with..... So how is your band thirdwave working on backmasks yet ????

So there goes the theory about it being her subconscious then... as it was not written by her as you say....

Im sorry, I am half open to the fact that maybe reversed speech can offer incite into what the song energy means or what the song opposes.... and even then I feel so much will be based on the listeners subconscious as well as the righters, as well as the singers AND the mixers for that matter, as they all contribute to how the voice will sound when reversed....

I just feel you are making HUGE guesses as to what is behind it and while it can be quite interesting sometimes I would not DREAM of making judgement on anyone or any song based in this study.

And like I say, If I was ever to catch somone making judgement on me by reversing one of my songs and telling me what messages I am putting out there, I would feel half freaked out and half pissed off.

emerald
13-11-2008, 02:24 PM
JILL SOBULE - I KISSED A GIRL

Jenny came over and told me about Brad
He's such a hairy behemoth she said
And dumb as a box of hammers
But he's such a handsome guy
And I opened up and I told her about Larry
And yesterday how he asked me to marry
I'm not giving him an answer yet
I think I can do better

CHORUS:
So we laughed, compared notes
We had a drink, we had a smoke
She took off her overcoat
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

So she called home to say she'd be late
He said, he worried but now he'd feel safe
I'm glad you're with your girlfriend,
Tell her "Hi" for me
then I looked at you, you had guilt in your eyes
But it only lasted a little while
And then I felt your hand above my knee

CHORUS:
And we laughed at the world
They can have their diamonds
And we'll have our pearls
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, her lips were sweet
She was just like kissing me
I kissed a girl, won't change the world
But I'm so glad
I kissed a girl

And we laughed at the world
They can have their diamonds
And we'll have our pearls
I kissed a girl (for the first time)
I kissed a girl (and I may do it again)
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, her lips were sweet
She was just like kissing me (but better)
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, won't change the world
But I'm so glad
I kissed a girl (for the first time)
I kissed a girl (won't be the last time)
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

Not a fuss back in 1995 about this song, as it happens now with KATE PERRY. Im more than certain she "inspired" from this song. Besides, JILL wasnt as marketed as this chick is now, plus her appearance:D

lewi
13-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Well whoever wants to be famous in this day and age must have to put up with scrutiny and ridicule and that wont change for anyone entering this line of business anytime soon.

It seems no matter what the evidence offered here on this thread there will be people who agree and those who dont and lets face it i also face the scrutiny also by people who disagree but like the famous iam not phased by it neither.

Now sit down with the girl who sings in a recording studio and ask her what do any of the some 100 controls all mean and i bet she would know only one and that would be the volume control. *thats cause its labeled*

Inside the recording room the singer sings and the rest is done unseen where they alter the pitch, reverb, filters, multi channel audio enhancements etc , to save getting into a rant i will just say this, the girl sings and leaves... the rest is done unseen anything could be added without her knowing.

Anyone entering the music industry should expect people to ridicule them that alone comes with the job and lets not forget she has help from the industry to keep them protected with there false interviewers reading from scripts and reporters limited and policed by there bosses.

lostwonderer
13-11-2008, 05:34 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKb6hC6RGA

Here's a clearer version, make of it what you will.

Strangely catchy reversed though.

lewi
13-11-2008, 05:42 PM
JILL SOBULE - I KISSED A GIRL

Jenny came over and told me about Brad
He's such a hairy behemoth she said
And dumb as a box of hammers
But he's such a handsome guy
And I opened up and I told her about Larry
And yesterday how he asked me to marry
I'm not giving him an answer yet
I think I can do better

CHORUS:
So we laughed, compared notes
We had a drink, we had a smoke
She took off her overcoat
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

So she called home to say she'd be late
He said, he worried but now he'd feel safe
I'm glad you're with your girlfriend,
Tell her "Hi" for me
then I looked at you, you had guilt in your eyes
But it only lasted a little while
And then I felt your hand above my knee

CHORUS:
And we laughed at the world
They can have their diamonds
And we'll have our pearls
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, her lips were sweet
She was just like kissing me
I kissed a girl, won't change the world
But I'm so glad
I kissed a girl

And we laughed at the world
They can have their diamonds
And we'll have our pearls
I kissed a girl (for the first time)
I kissed a girl (and I may do it again)
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, her lips were sweet
She was just like kissing me (but better)
I kissed a girl

I kissed a girl, won't change the world
But I'm so glad
I kissed a girl (for the first time)
I kissed a girl (won't be the last time)
I kissed a girl
I kissed a girl

Not a fuss back in 1995 about this song, as it happens now with KATE PERRY. Im more than certain she "inspired" from this song. Besides, JILL wasnt as marketed as this chick is now, plus her appearance:D


Not quite the same song but intresting !

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k4r41vPTF8k

thirdwave
13-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Well whoever wants to be famous in this day and age must have to put up with scrutiny and ridicule and that wont change for anyone entering this line of business anytime soon.

Very true, although you don't have to be famous to be judged by something so vague and random... if you are right then it would be the case of all peoples recorded voices not just famous people..


It seems no matter what the evidence offered here on this thread there is no evidence just thieopry and I have said I am open to the theiroy but for me its all a point of view, from making out what is said to how it got there.... If the words were not put on the screen no one would have heard them... its influenced by what it on the screen, play another song and let everyone guess what they hear and see what results you have.... Also should every single recorded not have a reverse message ? ..if not, why not?


there will be people who agree and those who dont and lets face it i also face the scrutiny also by people who disagree but like the famous iam not phased by it neither.

True ... its all opinion.

Inside the recording room the singer sings and the rest is done unseen where they alter the pitch, reverb, filters, multi channel audio enhancements etc , to save getting into a rant i will just say this, the girl sings and leaves... the rest is done unseen anything could be added without her knowing.

Totally, this is the same with much stuff like album art work and so on.. I have had a deal before and know how it works and saw how other bands worked...

But it does not really matter, I also do not believe people can create the reverse speech by studio tools...

Anyone entering the music industry should expect people to ridicule them
Well its true although it should not be, but regardless they would still have the right to be freaked out and angry at what ignorant things are hurled at them... that or laugh... which maybe they do after a while.

that alone comes with the job and lets not forget she has help from the industry to keep them protected with there false interviewers reading from scripts and reporters limited and policed by there bosses.

it works both way's as many of them are attacked by false interviewers... the media is never true really...

But never the less I would not ridicule another person (famous or not) using such vague and in the dark information, personally.... just as i would not swing my knife around the dinner table..

lewi
13-11-2008, 09:44 PM
"I also do not believe people can create the reverse speech by studio tools..."

Here are the studio tools used some are more simpled down versions of the true machines used for the more avarage user friendly types.. Might want to contact them see if they can get you a deal ....... ;)

http://www.cherryvalleyrecords.com/StudioEquipment/tabid/56/Default.aspx

armoured_amazon
13-11-2008, 10:01 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKb6hC6RGA

Here's a clearer version, make of it what you will.

Strangely catchy reversed though.

I KNOW. It was stuck in my head the other day. :mad:

Hey, I wonder if reverse-speech songs are copyrighted? :D

thirdwave
13-11-2008, 10:26 PM
"I also do not believe people can create the reverse speech by studio tools..."

Here are the studio tools used some are more simpled down versions of the true machines used for the more avarage user friendly types.. Might want to contact them see if they can get you a deal ....... ;)

http://www.cherryvalleyrecords.com/StudioEquipment/tabid/56/Default.aspx


no need to tell me what gear can be used I have my own studio... go listen to my stuff, Im not a grammy winner but know my gear, I recorded and mixed them all my self (those ones all on my home PC using nothing but software)... I have also worked with grammy award winning enginers (2) and I have recorded an Album with Dave Jurden (alive in chains), (janes addiciton), (off spring) (rolling stones).... and could go on... Yes Im blowing my own trumpet because I know my shit when it comes to producers and so on..

I am telling you there is no calculating way that you can arrange reverse speech without blatantly effecting how it sounds when played forward.

here is some of the software I use, its all state of the art stuff.

Cubase4 (http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/musicproduction/cubase4_product.html)
BFD2 (http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=53)
Kontact 3 (http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=kontakt3)
UAD1 (http://www.uaudio.com/)

you can EASILY reverse vocals ..no problem... but if you manipulate that audio then it will still effect the forward audio....

and although you could maybe alter how words sound in reverse with a vocoder...distortion... pitch shift.... so on... you would not be able to do it to what ever desired effect... you would fuck with it until something jumps out at you and works for the track...

the only thing on her voice is on the verse she is useing loads of compression with no or very little verb
then in the chorus its loads of compression with some reverb/delay

then a harmony comes in with auto tune on it.... "just human nature" and the hooked frazes on the second verse there is a volca behind it that has been prosessed through auto tune and also either a subtle vocoder of a bit of fuzz distortion...

in the second chorus on "it felt so wrong, it felt so right" there is defo a vocoder there doing a lower harmony... quite subtle to the un knowing ear....

i would be happy to talk to anyone in the know how they think they could create such consistent backward messages using studio technology but not weirding out the front side.

I think backward speech might have something to it but i think it is alot to do with vibration and also personal interaction with the sound.

sweheretic
17-11-2008, 11:29 PM
well the reversed song dont quite promote girl on girl....


Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

At Least He's Born Again, Ya Aren't Listenin, Whores Dont Listen, Of This Teak Wood, Builld Them Make God, Hope It And Forged A Evil Star.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Wee Know What They Did. He Is No Sinner, ...And I'm Whore For A Day. Now I'm Bitch, Were At The End Of The World, And The Age Never Knows It. Me Amo...Heard I'm God. In The End Your Lettin Me Ignore That Omen.

Praise God, Praise God Whores, This Is God.
Yeah, Your A Star, Anymore, You Are Whores Like Me, You Are Whores Like Me, Maybe I'm A Whore Yeah, Cuz I'm Poor. Yeahh, You Are Whore, This Is God, Yeahh I See Right Through His Heart, Praise God, Whores, This Is God

Carpe Diem! tart, Whore, You'll Fuck. Whores Dream Of.... Hell I'm Bitch. Whores Shall Be Damned. Nice Requiem, Girls Now Found Clit.


it could be a whole new song in reserve its quite catchy lol.

can't find the clip with this lyrics in the video anymore, wanted to show a friend :( seems it got changed on youtube or something

serenevasaline
17-11-2008, 11:41 PM
If you want more evidence that this girl is evil check it out.

this was the opening song at the MTV europe awards.

Notes:


The chap stick that she squats over is a phallic (If you want evidence, watch at the end of the song when she says " I've seen bigger" to her man in the crowd. Conformation that she thinks of the cock when she is squating over it. lol)
She is dressed in a football outfit. i may be over thinking this but I'm sure that the media is trying to confuse kids sexuality and gender.
If it's all so innocent, why are there girls dressed as devils dancing around underneath.
All of the childish references to sex stuff on the screens in the back ground. eg, cherries and bananas. When I was in school when I was little there was a rhyme where kids would reference the cherry as the vagina and the banana as the penis. And then there's the saying " pop the cherry" for losing your virginity.

This girl is wierd and her eyes...I dunno. She looks manic and exstatic all of the time. lol.


EDIT: here's the video I meant to post. sorry guys.
[meda]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CL9xIfP7Nds&feature=related[media]

eternal_spirit
18-11-2008, 02:40 AM
i also heard this girl was raised by priests is this true?

I don't know but she sure raises my Bishop! :D

lewi
18-11-2008, 02:55 AM
can't find the clip with this lyrics in the video anymore, wanted to show a friend :( seems it got changed on youtube or something

Heres the link for you dude it keeps vanishing from the posts it seems ;)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XZXDOYICeFU&feature=related

eternal_spirit
18-11-2008, 02:57 AM
How about doing some reverse songs by Marilyn Manson or some other know Satanic bands (you know the ones with pictures of demons and pentagrams and shit on their album covers)

lewi
18-11-2008, 02:59 AM
If you want more evidence that this girl is evil check it out.

this was the opening song at the MTV europe awards.

Notes:


The chap stick that she squats over is a phallic (If you want evidence, watch at the end of the song when she says " I've seen bigger" to her man in the crowd. Conformation that she thinks of the cock when she is squating over it. lol)
She is dressed in a football outfit. i may be over thinking this but I'm sure that the media is trying to confuse kids sexuality and gender.
If it's all so innocent, why are there girls dressed as devils dancing around underneath.
All of the childish references to sex stuff on the screens in the back ground. eg, cherries and bananas. When I was in school when I was little there was a rhyme where kids would reference the cherry as the vagina and the banana as the penis. And then there's the saying " pop the cherry" for losing your virginity.

This girl is wierd and her eyes...I dunno. She looks manic and exstatic all of the time. lol.


EDIT: here's the video I meant to post. sorry guys.
[meda]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CL9xIfP7Nds&feature=related[media]

Excellent i was hoping someone would post this up thanks serenevasaline your points are valid how can people see nothing when they watch this proformance iam not talking about people on this forum iam talking about the people in the crowd ??

I liked the way the dancers done handstands and spread open there legs as she sang i kissed a girl and i liked it ! Also what was with telling her adoring fans to "SHUT UP" or i carnt host all about i mean them people adore her and buy her albums i mean she could show some respect and say thankyou or something, and she did have a crazed look in her eyes - mesmerizing !!

I guess they just dont know and i doupt they would want to know or even be intrested there so conditioned its unreal :(

lewi
18-11-2008, 03:06 AM
How about doing some reverse songs by Marilyn Manson or some other know Satanic bands (you know the ones with pictures of demons and pentagrams and shit on their album covers)

Excellent idea but that would maybe mean starting a whole new thread off and i dont know if i can handle a new reversed thread just at the moment as this thread is still going strong but i would welcome someone else to have ago at creating one.

I think it is required for all to know whats being played into there subconscious that way they can learn how to protect there minds from these evil subliminals, that is if there is a way !?........is there a way :confused:

drael
18-11-2008, 04:35 AM
Can anyone tell me how/why the brain would reverse speech?

What a pointless function, requiring massive memory stores and such. (It would require more brain space than short term memory itself....all for something with no practical use).

lol, show me proof that reverse speech has a subliminal effect!

(BTW there isnt any, and there is for all other forms of subliminal cueing).

lewi
18-11-2008, 04:51 AM
There is lots of evidence throughout the thread just go back a few pages and see iam sure some of your questions will be answerd and if you already have seen the evidence and disagree with posts all i can say at the moment is ....

Ill get back too you ;)

drael
18-11-2008, 05:06 AM
I dont really much feel like searching through the whole thread, but ill have a look.

Makes absolutely no sense to me. Ive studied subliminals, and the brain. For this to work, the brain would have to have evolved a system more complex than short term memory - with no natural function. Normal subliminal cueing has a survival benefit. Speech does not naturally reverse.

If you can post any of those proofs, ill check them out.

Went a few pages back and didnt see anything resembling a proof. A proof would be, playing a reversed speech message to a person, and then asking them questions to see if cueing is occuring. (Cuing is when u get something sumbiminal, and that makes a word pop up in answer to question. If cuing, or behaviour is not effected by reverse speech, it has no measurable effect.

Im not interested in pages full of reversed songs, or vague talk about the subconcious, i want a) proof that it has an effect on people and b) a model of how that is supposed to work in the brain.

(for speech to reverse in the brain, it would require a whole seperate memory store _just_ for that purpose. Being there is no natural reverse speech, and its completely non-useful for survival....thats a pretty damn big ask)

armoured_amazon
18-11-2008, 09:20 AM
If you want more evidence that this girl is evil check it out.

this was the opening song at the MTV europe awards.

Notes:


The chap stick that she squats over is a phallic (If you want evidence, watch at the end of the song when she says " I've seen bigger" to her man in the crowd. Conformation that she thinks of the cock when she is squating over it. lol)
She is dressed in a football outfit. i may be over thinking this but I'm sure that the media is trying to confuse kids sexuality and gender.
If it's all so innocent, why are there girls dressed as devils dancing around underneath.
All of the childish references to sex stuff on the screens in the back ground. eg, cherries and bananas. When I was in school when I was little there was a rhyme where kids would reference the cherry as the vagina and the banana as the penis. And then there's the saying " pop the cherry" for losing your virginity.

This girl is wierd and her eyes...I dunno. She looks manic and exstatic all of the time. lol.


EDIT: here's the video I meant to post. sorry guys.
[meda]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CL9xIfP7Nds&feature=related[media]

Crap live singing by someone who looks like a lunatic. :eek:

serenevasaline
18-11-2008, 11:39 AM
Excellent i was hoping someone would post this up thanks serenevasaline your points are valid how can people see nothing when they watch this proformance iam not talking about people on this forum iam talking about the people in the crowd ??

I liked the way the dancers done handstands and spread open there legs as she sang i kissed a girl and i liked it ! Also what was with telling her adoring fans to "SHUT UP" or i carnt host all about i mean them people adore her and buy her albums i mean she could show some respect and say thankyou or something, and she did have a crazed look in her eyes - mesmerizing !!

I guess they just dont know and i doupt they would want to know or even be intrested there so conditioned its unreal :(

Well, it's cool to be an arse these days I guess. Which is why she is acting like one to her fans.:D

I feel physically sick when I see what is goin on behind the scenes with all of this stuff. My sister said that since the song came out loads of girls in her school have started holding hands and stuff , girls who never would of done this before.

I have no prob with lesbians at all . I used to live with lesbian married couple before I moved out, but bending childrens sexuality is sick.

eternal_spirit
18-11-2008, 11:53 AM
but bending childrens sexuality is sick.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/electrokinetic/twigson_1-1.jpg

serenevasaline
18-11-2008, 12:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/electrokinetic/twigson_1-1.jpg

haha, I know. I get your point. (when I was 14 I was a fan. oh god the shame. lol)

Anyway, katy Perry is sneaky. It's put forwrd as innocent. Do you get me:confused: It creeps me out more than manson. he is pure cheese,,lol

eternal_spirit
18-11-2008, 12:33 PM
Maybe she is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I don't think she's aware of it but who knows. I think Manson has a good idea what he's about which makes him much worse IMO. (although maybe they are both mind controlled)

serenevasaline
18-11-2008, 01:08 PM
Maybe she is a wolf in sheeps clothing. I don't think she's aware of it but who knows. I think Manson has a good idea what he's about which makes him much worse IMO. (although maybe they are both mind controlled)

I agree. Totally. She is probably just caught up in the glitz and glomour of it all. She is a year younger than me thoiugh , and you would never catch me siging songs to girls telling them to make out. lol.

Manson knows it though yeah. He was ordained in to the Church of satan by Lavay. What a twat. he cheated on his gorgeous Mrs, Dita Von Teese because he didn't like how he had changed when he was with her. (meaning he may of been in love). She has said that he smashed her house up and stuff in the past. But anyway, the point is, he is a satanist.

Although, his parents are jewish I think. Wtf is all that about. You woulda thought that he had been the total opposite to what he is.

sweheretic
18-11-2008, 01:35 PM
I dont really much feel like searching through the whole thread, but ill have a look.

Makes absolutely no sense to me. Ive studied subliminals, and the brain. For this to work, the brain would have to have evolved a system more complex than short term memory - with no natural function. Normal subliminal cueing has a survival benefit. Speech does not naturally reverse.

If you can post any of those proofs, ill check them out.

Went a few pages back and didnt see anything resembling a proof. A proof would be, playing a reversed speech message to a person, and then asking them questions to see if cueing is occuring. (Cuing is when u get something sumbiminal, and that makes a word pop up in answer to question. If cuing, or behaviour is not effected by reverse speech, it has no measurable effect.

Im not interested in pages full of reversed songs, or vague talk about the subconcious, i want a) proof that it has an effect on people and b) a model of how that is supposed to work in the brain.

(for speech to reverse in the brain, it would require a whole seperate memory store _just_ for that purpose. Being there is no natural reverse speech, and its completely non-useful for survival....thats a pretty damn big ask)

first of all you should get your facts straight,
evolution is not a fact so your whole argument why it is useless is therefore not based on fact and should be revised.

if it didn't have any impact, why would they bother to make sure it's in our lives? in our commercials, in our movies, in the so called music etc.

for me it makes perfect sense, I wonder why it doesn't for you.

eternal_spirit
18-11-2008, 01:39 PM
I agree. Totally. She is probably just caught up in the glitz and glomour of it all. She is a year younger than me thoiugh , and you would never catch me siging songs to girls telling them to make out. lol.

Manson knows it though yeah. He was ordained in to the Church of satan by Lavay. What a twat. he cheated on his gorgeous Mrs, Dita Von Teese because he didn't like how he had changed when he was with her. (meaning he may of been in love). She has said that he smashed her house up and stuff in the past. But anyway, the point is, he is a satanist.

Although, his parents are jewish I think. Wtf is all that about. You woulda thought that he had been the total opposite to what he is.


Think most people know which way they bend by that age lol.

La Vey is Jewish too there's a number of Jews who are Satanists, which some may think odd Jesus (Jewsus being a jew so some say) If you haven't read any of the Talmud (not many have) and how it is similar in some ways to a satanic Mass.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10703

drael
18-11-2008, 10:02 PM
for me it makes perfect sense, I wonder why it doesn't for you.

Because subliminals can be proven or falsified. If you flash the a word up on a screen that cant be recognised by the concious mind, the effect can still be measured, apon the person.

What gets into the brain, or doesnt, can be measured.

So.......wheres the experiments proving reverse speech has an effect on behaviour or thought?

lewi
04-12-2008, 05:04 PM
;)

http://www.reversespeech.com/metaphors-examples.htm

;):)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fU952GPKe2M