The Approach of the Anti-Christ

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9564

The Approach of the Anti-Christ
Rixon Stewart – October 23, 2008

Wall st, the earthly centre of the market meltdown

It’s an old story that has been repeated so many times, yet the greater part of humanity still hasn’t learned. But the lesson is a simple one and until we learn it we will carry on repeating the same old mistakes.

For the Illuminati have a history of creating problems, or allowing them to develop to the stage where people demand, “something must be done”! At which point the Illuminati then step forward with an answer. A solution that formerly might have been unacceptable had it not been needed to fix a problem requiring urgent remedy.

It’s the old Problem-reaction-solution ruse that has been used throughout history.

It was used as far back as ancient Rome, when Crassus used a slave’s revolt to do away with the old republic and its attendant freedoms.

Through the threat of rebellious slaves marching on Rome, Crassus tricked the Romans into trading their republic for imperial rule and that’s where a good idea went wrong.

For although Crassus never became emperor, in time some emperors became tyrants, as opposed to individuals who were temporarily appointed with dictatorial powers to deal with a crisis: as was originally intended.

Nonetheless nearly two thousand years later, President Roosevelt played a similar trick when he lured the Japanese into attacking the U.S. fleet at Pearl Harbour. As Michael Rivero and James Perloff have pointed out, U.S. naval intelligence was fully aware that the Japanese navy were steaming toward Pearl Harbour but failed to inform the U.S. fleet anchored there.

On November 29th the then U.S. Secretary of State Hull even showed a United Press reporter an intercepted message with the time and place of the attack – that’s more than a week before the Japanese actually struck on Sunday December 7, 1941!

Once the Japanese had attacked however, President Roosevelt had the pretext he needed to enter WWII with the Allies.

Still this old trick needn’t be confined to military matters. It can be used in the realm of economics, high finance and politics too. The essential ingredients are public gullibility and complacency enhanced nowadays by a compliant and obliging media.

Armed with such elements anything is possible.

All of which brings us to the current global market meltdown.

Some have expressed doubts about the current economic crisis and a few readers have even voiced suspicions that the credit crunch has been staged but to whose benefit?

That is the question to ask whenever one is confronted by what maybe a conspiracy. Who will benefit and exactly how and in what way will they profit?

After all the payback may not necessarily be financial although whoever fixes the problem will be hailed as a saviour delivering us from an economic catastrophe.

Regardless of one’s faith however, its appropriate here to recall what various religions taught would feature around now.

Christians speak of the “End Times” and the appearance of false prophets and the anti-Christ. While Islam teaches that a similar figure will appear: the “ad-Dajjâl” or deceiver was predicted to lure men into his thrall with a combination of guile and diabolical cunning.

While Christian esoteric researcher and teacher Rudolph Steiner taught that a figure known to the ancient Zoroastrians as the epitome of evil would incarnate toward the end of the 20th century.

Ahriman's head sculpted by Steiner

Referred to as Ahriman, Steiner taught that he would likely appear in North America and that others would incarnate before him to assist his passage to prominence.

Spiritually developed men undermine Ahriman’s power and thus he seeks to entrap mankind in a purely physical realm. Impeding man’s spiritual evolution with greed as embodied in the “consumer society”, or more subtle intellectual enticements as may be found in the confines of scientific materialism.

While the ancient Zoroastrians knew him as Ahriman, Steiner said he would probably be more readily recognised today as Satan. They are in fact one and the same and it should be noted, quite distinct from Lucifer, an entirely different entity.

Like Muslim scholars, Steiner taught that Ahriman/ad-Dajjâl/the anti-Christ would incarnate as a man and appear all too human. His incarnation would be in counterpoint to Christ’s and while some lessons are harder than others, he would deliver a very hard lesson to humanity.

Speaking in terms that modern men might better grasp, Rudolph Steiner (1862-1925) taught that although apparently human, Ahriman/ad-Dajjâl/the anti-Christ would display a cold penetrating logic and likely excel at economics or science.

We may even conclude that in the modern world he might be found somewhere in computers or banking or even space exploration. Either way he would stand out in his field.

Which is where the current economic crisis presents the perfect opportunity for him to step onto the world stage and be greeted, initially at least, as a saviour.

One might even say that the current economic crisis was a set-up; staged like a theatre piece for this character to appear as a redeemer, rescuing the world from impending market meltdown.

From this elevated point and buoyed by public acclaim after contending with the global economic crisis, he would only be few steps away from taking command in a looming confrontation with Iran.

From which point all hell will break loose and this apparent “saviour” will be seen in his true element. Taking command in a global conflagration in which hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of lives will be consumed.

Those potential billions would be little more than innocent victims in his quest for dominion: sacrificial offerings in a real holocaust that would consume Jews, Christians and Muslims alike.

Stay tuned because this scenario may be about to unfold before our very eyes. In fact there is every indication that events will begin moving within the next six to twelve months.

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http://www.doyletics.com/arj/landarvw.htm

The Influences of Lucifer & Ahriman, GA# 191 by Rudolf Steiner
Five Lectures given in Bern and Dornach 1919
Published by Anthroposophic Press in 1993

In Christian theology the forces of Christ are set against the forces of the devil who represents in one figure all that is evil, and one is exhorted to abjure all that is of the devil. This might lead one to wonder, "How is the knowledge of good and evil bad? Isn't that what the devil in the Garden of Eden wanted to share with Adam and Eve?"

Steiner divides the devil into two beings, Lucifer and Ahriman, and shows us how neither is bad per se, each provides gifts to human beings that further our evolution, and that it is us who must learn to balance these gifts in our individual lives. His recommendation for a solution to the problem of the devil is to transcend the tendency towards either Luciferic frenzy or Ahrimanic tedium by creating a spirit-filled synthesis of the two in our lives from now on.

more info at the link

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i think that satan and lucifer are the same, or lucifer could be a lower ranked angel who was one the angels that rebelled against god, during satans war with god/archangel michael. remember 1/3rd of the angels sided with satan eg 33%, 33 degrees of masonary. thus lucifer could be rebelling against satan in order to take control, a powergrab. the fact is that in my view satan/lucifer are evil/destructive and are the god/gods of the elite.

i know this sounds irrational but this is all in the bible, so take heed.

[synergy777]

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

Albert Pike and Three World Wars

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Pike's Letter to Mazzini

It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

"The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

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Footnotes

1. Lady Queensborough: Occult Theocracy, pp. 208-209.

2, 3, 4. Cmdr. William Guy Carr: Quoted in Satan: Prince of This World.

[zero1]

Good posts, Syn. :cool:

[mynameis]

One thing about the Anti-Christ, every time someone makes a prediction, he's always fashionable about not showing up. I supposed that means the Anti-Christ is always fashionably late to the best parties. :o

[synergy777]

the fact is we don't know who he is. the elite do and have everything planned out. the elite do things on their time, not ours.

[runciter]

the fact is we don't know who he is. the elite do and have everything planned out. the elite do things on their time, not ours.

prince w11:11am and zion 2012 olympics?

[synergy777]

could be or it could be a red herring, to make us truth seekers look like idiots.

hitler was the closet thing we had to the antichrist, so i guess it would someone from politics/religion.

[zero1]

The fact is we don't know who he is.

Sure you do, I've been telling you all along -

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37710

[synergy777]

zero 1, your'e not the anti christ, your'e just a naughty boy, lol

although i often liked the omen trilogy, as it showed the political aspects, him being a diplomat. the best way for the anti christ would be to come into public office at a time of war, like a global peace maker/war monger, maybe coming from the united nations (UN).

[zero1]

zero 1, your'e not the anti christ, your'e just a naughty boy, lol.

:D A very naughty boy!

although i often liked the omen trilogy, as it showed the political aspects, him being a diplomat. the best way for the anti christ would be to come into public office at a time of war, like a global peace maker/war monger, maybe coming from the united nations (UN).

The thing is, people always expect these personages of Christ and Anti-Christ to be public figures when they come into the world. It might be the case that such people, if they exist, would choose anonymity to operate in this world.

[amethyst]

As usual, another fine article posted from Synergy :)

[hewrote]

the fact is we don't know who he is. the elite do and have everything planned out. the elite do things on their time, not ours.

in case gender is an issue, is it safe to assume that this "anti-christ" will be a woman.
Christ was a HE, this anti-christ is alleged to be male. damn....can't a gal get in on the action!?!?

[zero1]

in case gender is an issue, is it safe to assume that this "anti-christ" will be a woman. Christ was a HE, this anti-christ is alleged to be male. damn....can't a gal get in on the action!?!?

Why do think the Anti-Christ might be a woman? What's the rationale?

[amethyst]

in case gender is an issue, is it safe to assume that this "anti-christ" will be a woman.
Christ was a HE, this anti-christ is alleged to be male. damn....can't a gal get in on the action!?!?

I think the antichrist will be male because Christ was/is male. How else to pull off the great delusion? He must resemble "in appearance' the real Christ in every way, in order for him to be an effective "duplicate".

[runciter]

could be or it could be a red herring, to make us truth seekers look like idiots.


who are the truth seekers that talk about willy? the late rik clay did it.


hitler was the closet thing we had to the antichrist, so i guess it would someone from politics/religion.


hitler came to power thanks to communist mass murderers, didn't he..?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4471256.stm

http://www.holodomor.org/

[lessgov2007]

It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist. And as to what Antichrist is, no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not Popery in the Church of Rome, there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. . . . Popery is contrary to Christ’s gospel and is the Antichrist and we ought to pray against it.” ~Charles Haddon Spurgeon, 1873

“It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country—the United States of America—are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe.” General Lafayette, 1799 Aide to General Washington Romanism: A Menace to the Nation

This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and North, on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor any one of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promise of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholics, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us.” -Abraham Lincoln, 1864

[deckard]

I think the antichrist will be male because Christ was/is male. How else to pull off the great delusion? He must resemble "in appearance' the real Christ in every way, in order for him to be an effective "duplicate".

Eddie Vedder?

[deckard]

Seriously but, Obama is looking the goods in the antichrist stakes.

[knightofthegrail]

Does it make a difference who the Antichrist turns out to be? What is important is following Christ; so long as you follow him it doesnt matter who the AC turns out to be.

If you are asked "what is 1+1", there are millions of wrong answers and only one right one. Identifying a wrong answer means little....

[lessgov2007]

Does it make a difference who the Antichrist turns out to be? What is important is following Christ; so long as you follow him it doesnt matter who the AC turns out to be.

If you are asked "what is 1+1", there are millions of wrong answers and only one right one. Identifying a wrong answer means little....

I'm not a Christian, but you make great point. It doesn't matter who is the most evil of them all, it's all evil.

[deckard]

Does it make a difference who the Antichrist turns out to be? What is important is following Christ; so long as you follow him it doesnt matter who the AC turns out to be.

If you are asked "what is 1+1", there are millions of wrong answers and only one right one. Identifying a wrong answer means little....

Amen brother.

[darketernal]

A pretty high percentage of us do not believe in Christianity or Christ, and therefore the anti-Christ either. This is clearly a religious discussion limited to one maybe two faiths. Any chance of this getting moved to the religion forum?

[deckard]

A pretty high percentage of us do not believe in Christianity or Christ, and therefore the anti-Christ either. This is clearly a religious discussion limited to one maybe two faiths. Any chance of this getting moved to the religion forum?

A lot of people on these forums, myself included, actually do believe in Christ, but you are right, it probably does belong in the religion forum.

Also not believing in Christ doesn't automatically mean you don't believe in Satan or the Antichrist, and from my experience on here, and other forums, the most vehemently opposed to Christianity and Christians, are usually followers of Satan.

[runciter]

A pretty high percentage of us do not believe in Christianity or Christ, and therefore the anti-Christ either. This is clearly a religious discussion limited to one maybe two faiths. Any chance of this getting moved to the religion forum?

i think there's a plan to present, in the near future, an illuminati puppet as a sort of messiah or savior, and i think they've already chosen this person and prepared him and all the hollywoodian show to make us believe that he's "the one".

he would be a "political" leader and a "religious" one, just like a pharaoh.

[amethyst]

i think there's a plan to present, in the near future, an illuminati puppet as a sort of messiah or savior, and i think they've already chosen this person and prepared him and all the hollywoodian show to make us believe that he's "the one".

he would be a "political" leader and a "religious" one, just like a pharaoh.

Yes, there definitely is.

Unfortunately, those who have worked so dilligently to put him (the ONE) in his place of prominence, will find that they will be disgarded after they have been "used".

Because Satan is a con artist. That's how he works. He knows NOTHING of infinite love because he is the embodiment of all evil and all hatred.

[lightgiver]

I came across this,i posted it in the section on symbolism a longer version there,this is just a snippet,you may be interested,

Number 11:

In systems such as Astrology and basic Numerology, eleven is considered to be a Master Number. Eleven can also represent sin; transgression and peril. Ten being the perfect number, eleven represents the exceeding of both. It is interesting to note that eleven when broken down (1+1=2) comprises the Two of duality. (LUCIFER tried/wanted to be equal to God) Number eleven is a master vibration and as such should not be reduced to a single number. People with this number could be both idealistic and visionary, and they are attracted to the unknown. They can be both unusual, interesting and magnetic personalities. Eleven bring the gift of spiritual inheritance, (system of the Anti-Christ) is gifted as the "Light-Bearer". (One of the names of Lucifer) "The Symbolism and Spiritual Significance of the Number 11" see also MASSIVE TERRORISM AGAINST AMERICAN CITIES! see also light workers

Eleven (11) is a sacred number. When eleven is multiplied by the perfect number 3, the number 33 is produced, a number of tremendous occult importance. In 1933, Adolf Hitler and President Franklin Roosevelt came to power. Both these men were committed to the establishment of the New World Order, and their actions impacted humanity greatly. It was also in 1933 that the First Humanist Manifesto was issued. Do you see how Satan manipulated world history to produce three New World Order events in 1933? Thus, a powerful 333 served as a framework for world events in that year. Occultists Worship Numbers

A copy of a top secret document has been smuggled out of the Executive Office Building in Washington DC. Parts of it are as follows: On transfer of sovereignty to the United Nations, those who do not conform to United Nations authority will be considered RESISTERS and declared ENEMIES OF THE GOVERNMENT. Public statements in support of the old ways and favoring continued United States nationalism will be considered ENEMY DOCTRINE "Are YOU An 'Enemy of the State???'" What Christians Should KNOW!

The PURPOSE for the build up of World Wars was to create a NEED for PEACE so that a UNITED NATIONS may be needed and then created as a SOLUTION for establishing peace between nations. A WORLD body of GOVERNMENT with a WORLD COURT and a WORLD POLICE to keep nations in place and to concentrate power into a few people's hands. Who's hands? William Howard Taft, Skull and Bones graduate of 1878, helped found the American Society for the Judicial Settlement of International Disputes in 1920. This soon became the League to Enforce the Peace, then the League of Nations and then finally The United Nations. If you look at things from a historical perspective, the U.N. today has implemented or is in the process of implementing all the planks of Adam Weishaupt's Manifesto. When George Bush took us to war in the Persian Gulf, he stated boldly that he didn't need the approval of Congress anymore to declare war because he had a U.N. Mandate. We have sacrificed a large part of our U.S. sovereignty. The U.N. has recently passed a Declaration of Children's Right's. It is now a RIGHT of the child to receive vaccinations, which do more harm than good, and a parent doesn't have the right to interfere. Parents who interfere with the rights of a child or abuse a child or are accused of abuse can have their children taken by the state. If you are seen spanking a child more than two or three times, the child abuse police will be unleashed against you. This amounts to nothing more than a giant power transfer, from US to THEM. The only way they can do this is by tricking us into thinking that we are so irresponsible that we cannot manage our own affairs and lives and that the state is better suited to raise our children. If you still like the U.N. then wait until you get hit with the new U.N. TAX that is coming. The Secret History of America The Greatest Conspiracy On Earth

There are 33 sections to the United Nations inner emblem logo.

11, 13 and 33: The Illuminati \ Freemason's Signature

Pope Urges Strengthening of the UN

Robert Muller is a self-confessed Luciferian New World Order leader, and a former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations. Muller is one of the foremost leaders in the New Age/New World Order Movement whose #1 goal is to produce Antichrist so he can rule the newly formed global government. In fact, Muller claims his Guiding Spirit is none other than Master Diwhal Khul [Master D.K.], also referred to as the Tibetan . This demon was the Guiding Spirit of Alice A. Bailey, Director, House of Theosophy, as quoted above. This revelation is really heavy-duty, because such an important and powerful demon would not spend his time with anyone other than a heavy weight world leader. Robert Muller, who once wrote: "If Christ came back to earth, his first visit would be to the United Nations to see if his dream of human oneness and brotherhood had come true." Muller, by the way, is associated with the Lucis Trust, a New Age organization that evolved from the Lucis Publishing Company, previously known as the Lucifer Publishing Company For more on Muller see: Prophets, Satanist, or Illuminati

[ashanti_kingdom]

Amen brother.
I second that brother. :):):)

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9600

When Will It Start?

Rixon Stewart – October 31, 2008


Scroll down for update – November 10, 2008




Iran flexes its missile capability

Like pieces in a chess game, strategic assets are being positioned and preparations being made. This is being done with minimal publicity but plans are now well underway for truly momentous events.

None of this should come as a surprise, of course. Some time ago a trusted clairvoyant friend warned that tensions with Iran would ultimately erupt into war, one that in time would escalate into a global conflict. More recently he gave a date, which we’ve withheld until we had confirmation for what will essentially be the beginning of World War III.

Well, recent weeks have provided some unsettling corroboration.

A variety of indications have appeared all pointing in the same direction and although none explicitly signals war with Iran, you only have to join the dots to see that’s exactly where we are heading.

One of the first signs came in mid October when top international military officials met in Adirondacks, U.S.A. This was no ordinary summit; high-ranking military commanders from France, Germany, Italy and Britain met with members of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff in an isolated forest reserve in northern New York, the location no doubt chosen to keep publicity to a minimum.

Given other recent pointers it’s likely Iran was high on the agenda. They may even have discussed plans for a concerted military strike, or as this writer suspects, planned their response following an initial Israeli strike on Iran.

Because another give-away signalling as much recently came from Obama’s running mate, Joe Biden.

Although ostensibly from an Irish/American background, Biden is also an avowed Zionist on record as saying 'You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist'.

Essentially he is in place to make sure Obama follows the correct game plan. If he doesn’t, a ‘lone assassin’ or suchlike will deal with Obama and Biden will then step-up and assume office.




Biden makes his point

However, Biden’s obvious giveaway came on Sunday October 19, when he warned that if elected, Obama would face a testing time initially.

“Mark my words,” said Biden emphatically. “It will not be six months [after his inauguration] before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy….Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

Whence this certitude? How does Biden know that Obama will face an “international crisis” a “generated crisis” if he becomes president? In two separate speeches the same day he warned of this “crisis” but more to the point: how does Biden know so precisely when it will occur?

Uncannily, his timing corresponds exactly with our psychic friend’s warning.

A while back he warned that conflict with Iran would begin around April 2009, which just so happens to be during the first “six months” of the new president’s term.

Is this the crisis Biden refers to?

That being the case, this would indeed “test the mettle” of the new president. And if conflict does erupt between Israel and Iran will he throw the U.S. military in support of Israel, in keeping with previous agreements?

However Obama may react, other ominous factors are coming in to view.

Much depends on the current face-off between Israel and Iran but whether this erupts into open military conflict hinges to a large extent on the outcome of the Israeli elections in February.

There are two main contenders.

If Tzipi Livni wins we believe that Israel may learn to live with Iran, even if relations remain somewhat chilly. For despite being the daughter of two prominent Irgun members, Tzipi Livni is pragmatic enough to understand that military confrontation is not the only option in dealing with Iran.

On the other hand, if Likud hardliner Benjamin Netanyahu wins it will be another story altogether. Netanyahu is on record as describing 9/11 as “beneficial” for Israel and reportedly received prior warning of the 7/7 attack in London – so electoral victory for him will make war with Iran almost certain.

That being the case, it's likely that Israel will make the opening move: either with a false flag operation or a direct strike on at least some of Iran’s nuclear facilities. Nonetheless, Israeli military success is far from assured – Iran is well armed and prepared, some distance from Israel and intelligence on it is poor – so Israel knows its chances against Iran are limited if it acts alone.

So instead of outright initial military success, Israel may well be banking on U.S. intervention when Iran retaliates, as it most assuredly will. From that point on anything can happen and what starts out as a regional clash could easily escalate into a global military conflict.

Here it should be noted that our psychic friend says the conflict will start “slowly, slowly” but escalate into something much, much bigger.

America and its western allies will probably all line up alongside Israel while Hezbollah, the Mahdi Army, Syria and a nuclear capable Pakistan will likely side with Iran.

So too will Russia, eventually, and we are reliably informed that ultimately China will also play a critical role; helping to turn what starts out as a limited regional clash into a global conflagration.

All of which should underline the fact that the Obama/Biden combination is no different from McCain/Palin or for that matter Bush/Cheney. Although the personalities and presentation may be different, they all follow the same agenda regardless. And no matter what the participants in this political puppet show may say, we may soon find ourselves in a global confrontation that could cost hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of lives.


Update – November 10, 2008

As if further evidence was needed that military action was a real prospect, word has been received from inside the armaments industry that largely confirms the above.

According to a reliable source: orders have recently been submitted by Britain’s Ministry of Defence for large quantities of airborne munitions. The only other occasions such large quantities have been ordered was prior to the 1990 Gulf War and the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The orders are currently being completed and we leave readers to draw their own conclusions.

[armoured_amazon]

I second that brother. :):):)

And I too, concur. :)

[runciter]

deckard is banned? :confused:

why? when did it happen? :( :mad:

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9622

India seeks 'velvet divorce' from Iran

By M K Bhadrakumar – Asia Times November 5, 2008

Amid the rubble of the Middle East policy of the George W Bush-Ehud Olmert duo, there has been a true success story. The United States and Israel have largely succeeded in snatching India from the "other" side of the Middle Eastern geopolitical divide. This became evident more than once in the past week.

On October 26, US forces based in Iraq attacked the Syrian border village of Sukkaryiah. The attack triggered outrage regionally. Even the Arab League, which has an ambivalent attitude toward Damascus, felt compelled to condemn Washington. But Delhi looked away. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who paid a five-day visit to India in June - the first visit by a Syrian head of state in more than three decades - must be bemused why Delhi didn't say at least what was so patently obvious, namely, it is wrong to violate the territorial integrity of a sovereign country.

Only in June had an Indian spokesman claimed that Assad's visit "further consolidated the excellent relations that exist between India and Syria and identified new areas of bilateral cooperation".

This dichotomy in India's diplomacy with regard to the Muslim Middle East - excellent photo opportunities not quite translating as official policy and ultimately degenerating as publicity exercises in the competitive environment of Indian politics - was again on display during the weekend visit to Tehran by Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, from October 31 to November 2.


Kashmir issue in focus

Mukherjee's visit was badly timed. Only a few weeks had passed since Delhi hosted two visits by the Israeli and US army chiefs, Avi Mizrahi and George Casey, to the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir in a clear policy departure from past practice. The visits marked a quantum leap in US-Israel-India security cooperation. It provoked some sharp comments in the official Iranian media - about Delhi opening the door to Israeli and US involvement in the "Kashmir problem" against the backdrop of the Islamic militancy in the adjoining Pakistani tribal areas and in Afghanistan.

Just four days before Mukherjee arrived in Tehran, the Tehran Times newspaper, which is credited with reflecting Iranian thinking, featured an article roundly condemning the Indian stance on the Kashmir issue. Titled "The Black Day of Kashmir - 61 years of pain", the article was ostensibly meant to coincide with the anniversary of the Indian military intervention in Kashmir on October 27, 1947, which it called "one of the darkest chapters in the history of South Asia".

The article amounted to an unvarnished endorsement of the Pakistani point of view. It said, "India continues to defy the world by denying Kashmiris their inalienable right to determine their destiny ... The atmosphere of tension in India-Pakistan relations has engendered instability and insecurity in South Asia. The urgency of the situation and the need to resolve the dispute as soon as possible cannot be over-emphasized ... The world's Muslims will always stand by the Kashmiris until they succeed in their struggle to attain the right to self-determination."

The lengthy article recalled Iran's "deep-rooted spiritual and cultural bonds with the people of Kashmir" and went on to fondly underscore that in Tehran, Kashmir is known as "Little Iran" - Kashmir-Iran-e-saghir.

Such rhetoric on the eve of a foreign minister-level visit from India hardly served the purpose of a "curtain-raiser", except to warn Delhi in advance that it cannot be business as usual in Iran-India relations and that the chill in bilateral ties and the dissipation of mutual understanding must not be lightly taken as a mere hiccup.

Simply put, if Delhi's intention was to project a semblance of normalcy in India's relations with Iran and to create a favorable impact thereby on Muslim opinion in India, Tehran decided it would not play ball.

Washington and Tel Aviv must be quietly chuckling. Up until some three years ago, there was a constant refrain in India-Iran political exchanges - that their relationship constituted a factor of peace and stability in the region. But the mantra was completely lacking in the pronouncements of the two sides during Mukherjee's visit. The two countries are drifting apart.


Indian naval deployment

Mukherjee candidly admitted that "in this changing context, we need to look at India-Iran relations afresh". Indeed, that "context" is dramatically changing. A fortnight before the visit, Delhi deployed for the first time ever a warship in the Persian Gulf region, which will operate in close coordination with the Western navies under the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in the region.

Mukherjee assertively said in Tehran, "India has a natural and abiding stake in the safety and security of the sea lanes of communication from the Malacca Strait to the Persian Gulf."

But Delhi didn't consult Tehran beforehand. Delhi instead approached Oman for assistance in berthing facilities for its warship. Tehran, meanwhile, views the Western naval deployments in the Persian Gulf with alarm. Last week, Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mohammadi criticized the expansion of NATO to the east and called on regional governments to "distance themselves from competitive and hostile policies".

Tehran would have most certainly noted Delhi's decision to host a large-scale naval exercise with the US along India's western coast in late October in which the nuclear-powered American aircraft carrier Ronald Reagan and US nuclear submarines and frigates participated. Iran has since announced the opening of a new naval base in the southern port of Jask in the eastern part of the Strait of Hormuz. According to the chief of the Iranian navy, Admiral Habibollah Sayari, "With this new naval base, a new line of defense was created in the Persian Gulf. If necessary, we can prevent any enemy from entering the Persian Gulf's strategic area."

Sayari announced that Iran proposed to build yet another naval base to establish "an impenetrable line of defense at the entrance to the Sea of Oman". He added, "If the enemy goes insane, we will drown them at the bottom of the Indian Ocean and the Sea of Oman before they reach the Strait of Hormuz and the entrance to the Persian Gulf." Curiously, the Iranian announcement coincided with the consultations of Indian National Security Advisor M K Narayanan in Oman regrading an Indian proposal that the sultanate provide berthing facilities for the Indian warship deployed in the region.

Though Mukherjee's visit to Tehran ended on Sunday, it has not yet been revealed whether President Mahmud Ahmadinejad received him. A call on the Iranian president - and, perhaps Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei - was customary for visiting Indian foreign ministers in the halcyon days of the India-Iran strategic partnership. In another sign of the change in the Iranian mood, Tehran "downgraded" the Joint Economic Commission with India. Mottaki is no longer its co-chairman, as is the practice with Iran's other major interlocutors and partner countries.

Thus, a series of icebergs has been lately slicing through the hull of the Titanic that used to be the grand old India-Iran "strategic partnership". A disaster was waiting to happen ever since India voted against Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency three years ago following US President George W Bush's entreaties with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.


Pipedream of energy cooperation

At the root of it lies unprecedented US-Israeli interference in India's Iran policy. Such interference is nothing new since the early 1990s, when Delhi established diplomatic relations with Israel. Delhi skillfully navigated the relationship with Iran, despite the robust growth of ties with Israel on a parallel track.

However, things began changing three to four years ago as Indian foreign policy in the region began getting more "security-centric" and Israel was elevated as a pivotal relationship. Today, in the Iranian perception, Delhi's avowal that it is capable of buttressing the India-Iran relationship from the predatorial skill of US and Israeli diplomacy lacks credibility.

Tehran used to respect India's perceived political will to retain its autonomy of action and thinking on regional issues. That confidence seems to have evaporated. Mottaki forcefully pleaded with Mukherjee that the two countries should focus on a relationship that served their "real interests" rather than fall into the "conspiracies of foreign powers" which hatch "mischief aimed at sowing discord" in Iran-India relations.

The litmus test is the Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project. It is obvious that Delhi is dragging its feet on the project, despite its great potential to boost India's energy security - all because of US and Israeli pressure. Tehran finds itself in a dilemma. No doubt it is keen to partner with India in the project, but Tehran realizes that political will is lacking in Delhi.

At the same time, Tehran cannot cut out India altogether as it estimates it is only logical that some day soon, under a different leadership in Delhi, India will revert to this project in its compelling self-interest. The Iranian frustration showed when Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari told the media soon after Mukherjee concluded his visit, "Considering that we have lost many opportunities in the 'peace pipeline' project due to India's procrastination, we have told that country to engage more actively."

The US$7.5 billion, 2,700-kilometer pipeline has been in discussion for almost two decades. The pipeline is to begin from Iran's Assalouyeh energy zone in the south and stretch over 1,100 kilometers through Iran. In Pakistan it is to pass through Balochistan and Sindh before linking up Rajasthan and Gujarat in western India.


Strategy toward Afghanistan

Again, the geopolitics of the region dictate that Delhi and Tehran explore the frontiers of a common strategy towards Afghanistan at a time when the Taliban's resurgence is apparent and its induction by the US into a coalition government in Kabul in the not-too-distant future appears highly probable. Mukherjee could have conceivably utilized the visit for such purpose.

The Iranian side indeed appeared keen for purposeful dialogue on Afghanistan. But Delhi isn't willing. The priority in the Indian mindset is to harmonize its regional policies with the US (and Israel) as regards the "war on terror". That includes Delhi's Afghan policy.

The powerful chairman of Iran's Expediency Council and former president, Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, told Mukherjee, "Resolving the current crisis in Afghanistan requires extensive cooperation between Iran, India and Pakistan. This cooperation can bring tranquility to the region ... The experience of the Soviet Union in this country [Afghanistan] shows that the path the West is now treading in Afghanistan will not yield the desired results. The signs that are currently observed in Afghanistan show that the West is not capable of resolving the problems of this country."

Mukherjee responded, "No country outside the region can find a solution to the problems of regional countries and the regional states themselves should resolve the problems through cooperation with each other." He added that India, Iran and Pakistan could play "important roles in regional events" and their cooperation would "help establish peace and stability" in the region.

The Indian timidity is despite the fact that India and Iran were staunch allies supporting the anti-Taliban alliance until the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. Delhi would be aware that Tehran has sharply reacted to the current US, British, Saudi and Pakistani efforts to accommodate the Taliban. Actually, the Indian and Iranian positions have striking similarity insofar as neither thinks there is anything conceivable as "good Taliban". Yet, Delhi shies from coordinating with Tehran lest it tread on US-Israeli sensitivities.


The Obama factor

So far so good. But what happens if a Barack Obama presidency moves toward normalization of relations with Iran? Indeed, Russia and China seem to be getting ready for such an eventuality. Iran's admission into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) as a full member has now become a certainty, with both the Russian and Chinese prime ministers affirming their support of the Iranian candidacy. Iran has been offered membership of the Black Sea Union. Russia is forming a gas cartel with Iran. (The SCO comprises China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.)

Above all, Delhi will face a new situation if Obama revisits the "war on terror". As well-known Lebanese commentator Rami Khouri thoughtfully wrote, "US-backed governments in half a dozen countries are losing their battles and political confrontations with Islamist-led indigenous oppositions, and have to form national unity governments or explore other means of power ... The American-Afghan tentative move to engage the Taliban politically is ... a welcome sign that Washington is finally learning the value of seeing and resolving conflicts in their wider local and regional context. We may well see something similar happen in Iraq, including American-Iranian-Saudi-Syrian contacts in the near future."

During his visit to Tehran, Mukherjee characterized the Persian Gulf as India's "proximate neighborhood", but there is no evidence Delhi has thought through its Middle East policy against the backdrop of impending shifts and realignments in the geopolitics of the region. Creative diplomacy lies in keeping all options open at a time of extreme volatility in regional politics.

On the other hand, it is a measure of the success of the US-Israeli diplomacy in recent years that Delhi increasingly finds itself at odds with Tehran's growing ambitions as a regional power, whereas sufficient elbow room is available for them to co-exist. There is no real clash of interests between India and Iran. So, ultimately, who is to blame - Washington, Tel Aviv or New Delhi?

As far as Tehran is concerned, it is countering the US's containment strategy and India's political support is no more an imperative need in the denouement of the Iran nuclear file. Moreover, as Iran's engagement by the West advances, Tehran will have no dearth of partners for energy cooperation. Least of all, the Gulf Cooperation Council states themselves are seeking accommodation with Iran and, arguably, they won't need India as a "balancer". The net result is that any weakening of India's strong ties with Iran at the present juncture can only debilitate Delhi's overall foreign policy in the Persian Gulf region in the critical period that lies ahead.

Delhi may ruffle feathers not only in Tehran but in regional capitals too - apart from Islamabad - if it presses ahead with the claim to be the pre-eminent power between the Persian Gulf and the Malacca Strait.

The Persian Gulf is a tough neighborhood and any grandstanding will not pass unnoticed. With only a fortnight to go for Manmohan to pay his first-ever visit to Saudi Arabia, Riyadh abruptly sought a postponement. If there is any political symbolism behind the Saudi move, it will surely emerge.


Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.

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we are seeing the two sides form, uk/usa/israel/india versus china/russia/iran/islamic extremists, just as predicted in vedic prophecy, the kalki purana and revelations.

the communist countries teaming up with islamic countries, which is weird as communism and atheism are often linked.

also shows such spooks are highlighting the russian influence aswell as the islamic extremist one.

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yeah fine they want us to believe that they're doing it again, but i don't buy it.

they are losing their power, they are desperate, haarp must be at full throttle..

[synergy777]

how about we discuss current affairs/politics and scripture/prophecy and how things are beginning to correlate at an alarming rate.

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how about we discuss current affairs/politics and scripture/prophecy and how things are beginning to correlate at an alarming rate.

i'm not alarmed, i know that they use the scriptures like a movie plot.

[synergy777]

its a figure of speech i am not alarmed but intrigued, life is more fun when its challenging.

however this is a great opportunity for us to make things better and make them better for all people and hopefully make them long lasting changes.