Thank god for the bearers of sense and logic

[zen_fox]

Thank god for the bearers of good sense and logic. It's so pleasing that they're here, monitoring everyone's thinking, making sure everyone tows the line. Some people on this forum, if left to make their own decisions, would just believe all kinds of things instead of what they're supposed to believe. So thanks to all the skeptics and defenders of logic which prowl these forums policing the minds and hearts of the people. Make sure to point out the slightest error a person makes or attack the semantics of a word that may have been misused. Keep up the proud act of labor which is atacking the person instead of the logic of an argument, or to harp on endlessly about completely insignificant details.

You're doing good, important work. Don't pay any heed to those who call you things like, "rude" or "inconsiderate prick", you're hear for a higher cause, to ensure that everyone knows your opinion. Make sure not to view any evidence provided and if you do only glance at the headline before passing your wise, unshakeable, absolute judgement upon it. Remember, your eyes see wisdom wherever you go and you need to tell everybody that. Repeatedly if need be and with capital letters and subdued threats if you're not respected. And you will be respected. Though many might ignore you or call you names or try and have you banned (truth hurts, right?) all the cooky nutjobs who don't see things clearly will deep down respect you because of your aggressive behavior and all together internet tough guy charm. Women will admire your strength and obvious astounding intelligence and the shriveled dorks of men who opposes you will be wracked with fear and absolute envy.

Life isn't all biceps and crushing sentences of victory though. Sometimes it can get a little dreary. In those times remember this. I know there is little I can do to encourage you, but when times get tough, dig deep and just think to yourself, "I am right. I am right. I am right." I have faith that you'll soldier on with your task to ensure the security of a dull, controlled future where only you know TRUTH and all the other short sighted, foolish, wishful thinkers can't begin to grasp the shoestrings of your theory's righteousness. With luck you can spread the truth to all of the ignorant masses.

[duckingdafta]

now all I need to do is learn some shit and I can join in!.. :D ;)

[itsallundercontrol]

I remember reading your post not long ago that said you were leaving this forum and not coming back.Whats changed why are you so bitter and angry its just a game mate......people just like to talk and share opinions theres no need to be so pissed off do you want to be looked up to or something?

[duckingdafta]

maybe just wrong time of the month.. no moon!

I can tell me Julie I'm leaving her in a morning in a mood, come tea time I'm wondering what time we'll be ready to go out.

[dmt head]

I remember reading your post not long ago that said you were leaving this forum and not coming back.Whats changed why are you so bitter and angry its just a game mate......people just like to talk and share opinions theres no need to be so pissed off do you want to be looked up to or something?

Aye I was wondering that myself? You said you have to go, big drama and all, then you come back with all these new threads?? Whats up with that?

[zen_fox]

Big drama, eh? I posted two sentences saying goodbye and everyone and blew it all out of proportion.

[darketernal]

Maybe he changed his mind. I left the forum for a little while myself a few months ago.

[mynameis]

You're doing good, important work. Don't pay any heed to those who call you things like, "rude" or "inconsiderate prick",

But these"rude" or "inconsiderate prick", are the highest form of compliment, when you are doing an effective job with other's inaccuracies.

[tracker]

now all I need to do is learn some shit and I can join in!.. :D ;)


:D

what was the question duckingdafta ?


shhh , i didnt hear it , so dont tell others .
is the answer green ?



im not sure but i think green sounds right .

good to see you Zen-fox :D

[zen_fox]

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[chris]

Hey take it easy on Zen, we all have bad days:D I can't count how many times I've quit this forum...

We all like to debate though, and Zen, you need to actually call these people out by name otherwise the whole forum is going to think your talking about them specifically:)

[danster82]

I think its good to have all types it creates balance.

or is that too logical for you?

[oiram]

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Office of the Secretary
Declaration under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act

October 1, 2008
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Maybe has something to do with the warning or should I say a slip of the tongue by Colin Powell about 21th Jan. 2009 ?

What are they cooking up again?

Anything in this interview video; any warning signs you can see or hear?
More Colin Powell on Meet the Press 10/19/2008
More Colin Powell on Meet the Press 10/19/2008 - YouTube

Here is the CQ Transcript: Colin Powell on NBC’s “Meet the Press” http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002976656
POWELL: I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world.

The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now.

And so I think what the president has to do is to start using the power of the Oval Office and the power of his personality to convince the American people and to convince the world that America is solid, America is going to move forward, and we’re going to fix our economic problems, we’re going to meet our overseas obligations.

But restoring a sense of purpose, a sense of confidence in the American people and, in the international community, in America.

[oiram]

Elections USA: Do They Matter?
War Is CrimeLinda Averil
October 24, 2008
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Legions of people opt out of voting in the U.S. But they are not civic slackers. They’re on to something. Whether disinterested or disgusted, they are casting a vote of no confidence in the electoral system. And it is entirely justified.

The real point of elections is to get enough people voting to legitimize the authority of politicians. Then, they can drag us into wars, bail out bankers in the middle of an economic meltdown, and “earmark” tax dollars to their biggest donors. It happens at every level of government, from City Hall to the White House.

Just as riot is the language of the unheard, abstention has become the vote of the unrepresented. In a debate on voter apathy, blogger Bud Wood put it this way: “It just doesn’t make much difference who or what gets into office. The results are more of the same.”

Whose democracy?There are 100 million nonvoters in the U.S., and they are overwhelmingly people who are economically disenfranchised. They are poor, young, disabled, unemployed and foreign-born, especially Asian and Latino.

Only 48 percent of folks in the bottom income bracket go to the polls. Compare this to 77 percent among those with annual incomes above $50,000. Those earning over $100,000 per year make up 15 percent of eligible voters, but 19 percent of actual ballot-casters. And this percentage rises on up the wealth ladder.

But even active voters are turned off. A study called the “Vanishing Voter” showed disenchantment among voters and abstentionists alike. More than 75 percent felt that “candidates will say almost anything to get elected.” Over one third agreed that “most politicians are liars or crooks.” The only statement that doubled in support among nonvoters was that “Republicans and Democrats are alike.”

It’s true. Big bucks dictate the agendas of both parties. In 2008, Obama and McCain will set new records for spending — over a half billion dollars. Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, champions of banking and investment deregulation, are top donors to Obama and Biden, a darling of credit card sharks. Exxon and Chevron back McCain and Palin, a proselytizer for drilling in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge.

Even new Democrats and Republicans find it difficult to enter government. In 2006, 407 House seats were up for reelection, with 383 held by incumbents. Of these incumbents, 94 percent prevailed, because they got all the money and media. A good many ran unopposed! This helps explain why turnout drops well below 40 percent during midterm elections.

Meanwhile, workingclass voters are kicked to the curb. Take Latinos for example. Voter forums showed that their concerns include basics such as “buying gas or buying food,” insufficient medical care, soaring war costs, and immigration. So what do both parties offer? Nothing.

In June, the Senate voted 92 to six for $257.5 billion in unrestricted war funds. The House vote was 416 to 12.

On healthcare, McCain and Obama leave untouched the sacred profits of the medical / pharmaceutical industry. On immigration, they offer more crackdowns.

It’s rigged!Actually, many abstainers would vote if they could. Other countries give people a day off to go to the polls, but not the U.S.

In 2004, 45 percent didn’t vote because they were too busy or exhausted, disabled or ill. Another 12 percent were stopped by registration problems, inconvenient polling locations and transportation issues. Translation? This means millions of workingclass voters face insurmountable obstacles, from electoral incompetence to outright dirty tricks on the part of politicians.

In Florida, the notorious ballot software is still flawed, and polls close by 7 p.m. A county in Virginia recently misled students to believe they could lose dependent tax status — and the benefits that bestows — if they registered to vote at their school address. In Wisconsin, the attorney general wants to cross-check every voter who registered since January 2006. This means long voting lines and disenfranchisement for those who can’t resolve discrepancies, including typos.

The list goes on. And systemic, undisguised racism explains why the overwhelming majority of those denied the vote each election are workingpeople of color.

Another 4-5 million are disenfranchised by states that deny the vote to ex-felons, 36 percent of them African American. Noncitizens have no representation, even though they are affected by everything the government does and may have lived here for years.

Minor parties?With such a gap between politicians and people, third parties should flourish. Instead they are blockaded by the money and might of the Democrats and Republicans. Election laws, written by the major parties, make it extremely difficult for minor parties even to appear on the ballot.

Outrageous rules, media censorship, private financing of campaigns, and sheer thuggery have marginalized political parties that compete with labor’s fake friend, the Democratic Party. This includes even parties like the Greens, who simply want to reform capitalism.

It’s not people who vote socialist or Green who throw away their votes. The system does it! U.S. elections are “winner take all.” If a socialist gets 20 percent of the vote, a Green gets 15 percent, and a Democrat gets 51 percent — all votes go to the Democrat.

Things weren’t always so sewn up. At the start of the 20th century, socialists ran on explicitly pro-labor, anti-capitalist platforms. And they won seats — more than 1,200 offices nationwide.

To eliminate the threat this posed, the Democrats and Republicans launched a political witch-hunt. Socialist party offices were raided, pro-labor representatives were denied their seats, radicals were tossed in jail, and restrictive ballot laws were passed.

Raise hell, whoever wins!After this country revolted against the English king, only a few white men with money and property could vote. The fight to gain the franchise by workers without land and Blacks and women was long and brave. It presumed that voting equals democracy and is the path to making society better.

If only it were true. Instead, wealth has concentrated into the hands of fewer people, alongside political power.

The economic elite write the laws to meet their needs. Karl Marx called it bourgeois democracy: by and for the capitalists. Its opposite is democratic socialism: the economic and political rule of the majority, the working class.

Today, politicians may look and sound more like ordinary working people; history is being made with the first Black Democratic presidential nominee and female Republican vice-presidential candidate.

But the empire under the make-over hasn’t changed.

Both parties put on quite a spectacle during elections to persuade voters of how different they are. Election 2008 is no exception. And true, there are minor differences. But whoever wins, things keep getting worse for working and poor people — whether they vote or abstain.

The answer is ringing in a whole new social system, and the way to get there isn’t at the ballot box. The route is through mass radical action that will settle for nothing less.

But your vote isn’t worthless. Send a message — use it to protest your false choices and demand real ones!

Then follow the advice of union organizer Mother Jones. More than a century ago, she declared, “I have never had a vote, and I have raised hell all over this country. You don’t need a vote to raise hell! You need convictions and a voice!”
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Money
The Ultimate AddictionJim Kirwan
10-15-8

The New World Order, in the uniform of The Fascist North American Union, will not resemble that "USA" that so many still believe exists! Once the 'selections' are over the real changes will begin because there will technically no longer be any reason at all to fear this public: A public that has proven itself over and over and over again to be more than compliant-with whatever these overpaid traitors have directed them "to do!" As an example, the only reference to the public, given in any of the government's explanations for this crisis has never included the word citizen. "We" are always referred to as "consumers," because under the constitution consumers have no standing at all, whereas "citizens" have rights.
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[jimmi]

In the early days of prizefighting a line would be SCRATCHED on the ground, the two fighters would stand facing each other and each would touch the line with one (or more) of their TOEs. After a knockdown the fighters would return and TOE THE LINE. If one of them could not toe the line he had lost because he had not come up to scratch.

[oiram]

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Rixon Stewart – October 23, 2008
Wall st, the earthly centre of the market meltdown

It’s an old story that has been repeated so many times, yet the greater part of humanity still hasn’t learned. But the lesson is a simple one and until we learn it we will carry on repeating the same old mistakes.

For the Illuminati have a history of creating problems, or allowing them to develop to the stage where people demand, “something must be done”! At which point the Illuminati then step forward with an answer. A solution that formerly might have been unacceptable had it not been needed to fix a problem requiring urgent remedy.

It’s the old Problem-reaction-solution ruse that has been used throughout history.

It was used as far back as ancient Rome, when Crassus used a slave’s revolt to do away with the old republic and its attendant freedoms.

Through the threat of rebellious slaves marching on Rome, Crassus tricked the Romans into trading their republic for imperial rule and that’s where a good idea went wrong.

For although Crassus never became emperor, in time some emperors became tyrants, as opposed to individuals who were temporarily appointed with dictatorial powers to deal with a crisis: as was originally intended.

Nonetheless nearly two thousand years later, President Roosevelt played a similar trick when he lured the Japanese into attacking the U.S. fleet at Pearl Harbour. As Michael Rivero and James Perloff have pointed out, U.S. naval intelligence was fully aware that the Japanese navy were steaming toward Pearl Harbour but failed to inform the U.S. fleet anchored there.

On November 29th the then U.S. Secretary of State Hull even showed a United Press reporter an intercepted message with the time and place of the attack – that’s more than a week before the Japanese actually struck on Sunday December 7, 1941!

Once the Japanese had attacked however, President Roosevelt had the pretext he needed to enter WWII with the Allies.

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The Influences of Lucifer & Ahriman, GA# 191 by Rudolf Steiner
Five Lectures given in Bern and Dornach 1919
Published by Anthroposophic Press in 1993

In Christian theology the forces of Christ are set against the forces of the devil who represents in one figure all that is evil, and one is exhorted to abjure all that is of the devil. This might lead one to wonder, "How is the knowledge of good and evil bad? Isn't that what the devil in the Garden of Eden wanted to share with Adam and Eve?"

Steiner divides the devil into two beings, Lucifer and Ahriman, and shows us how neither is bad per se, each provides gifts to human beings that further our evolution, and that it is us who must learn to balance these gifts in our individual lives. His recommendation for a solution to the problem of the devil is to transcend the tendency towards either Luciferic frenzy or Ahrimanic tedium by creating a spirit-filled synthesis of the two in our lives from now on.

[oiram]

Within the Architecture of Denial and Duplicity:
The Democratic Party and the Infantile Omnipotence of The Ruling Class.
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Why did the Democratic Congress betray the voting public? Betrayal is often a consequence of wishful thinking. It's the world's way of delivering the life lesson that it's time to shed the vanity of one's innocence and grow-the-hell-up. Apropos, here's lesson number one for political innocents: Power serves the perpetuation of power. In an era of runaway corporate capitalism, the political elite exist to serve thecorporate elite. It's that simple.

Why do the elites lie so brazenly? Ironically, because they believe they're entitled to, by virtue of their superior sense of morality. How did they come to this arrogant conclusion? Because they think they're better than us. If they believe in anything at all, it is this: They view us as a reeking collection of wretched, baseborn rabble, who are, on an individuallevel, a few billion neurons short of being governable by honest means.

Yes, you read that correctly: They believe they're better than you. When they lie and flout the rules and assert that the rule of law doesn't apply to them or refuse to impeach fellow members of their political and social class who break the law -- it is because they have convinced themselves it is best for society as a whole.

How did they come by such self-serving convictions? The massive extent of their privilege has convinced them that they're the quintessence of human virtue, that they're the most gifted of all golden children ever kissed by the radiant....
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