India launches rocket to the moon

[stelios]

India has launched a rocket to the moon.
Further proof of the NASA Apollo faked moon landing?

Chandrayaan will take 15 days to reach the lunar orbit
The spacecraft will rotate for about five-and-a-half days before firing the engine to slow its velocity for moon's gravity to capture it
weight of the unmanned module was 1380 kg at launch

ok

But in 1968 Apollo 8 took less than three days to reach the lunar orbit
the crew burned the retro rockets for 11 seconds to slow its velocity for moon's gravity to capture it
orbited ten times over the course of 20 hours
weight of the manned command module was 28,817 kg

am i missing something or does the 1968 manned moon mission sound like total horseshit

in 1969 Apollo 11 aparantly the first manned mission to land on the Moon
Launched on 16.07.1969
4 days later Armstrong and Aldrin supposedly landed on the Moon
weight of the manned command module was 30,320 kg
weight of the Lunar Module was 16,448 kg

does the maths add up or did the laws of physics become the laws of the magic carpet?

[stelios]

14.09.2007 Japan launched a lunar misson
On 03.10.207 it reached the moon
weight of the unmanned module was 2914 kg at launch

so 50 years on it takes 5 tmes longer carrying only 10% of the weight

[hagbard_celine]

Don't count on the Indians to rumble NASA over the fake moon landings. The Japs didn't. As we discussed on another thread, there are many sound reasons why other nations would collaborate with the US over this.

Besides when they see what's really out there in space, bringing home bits of a balsa-wood LM descent stage will be the least of India's concerns!:eek:;)

[endlessvista]

The Apollo Rockets were gigantic. The escape thrust would be the yardstick to measure rather than the lenght of time they take to get to the moon. You can take your time with an unmanned probe as you do not have to worry about air and the capsule filling up with shite.

[stelios]

The Apollo Rockets were gigantic. The escape thrust would be the yardstick to measure rather than the lenght of time they take to get to the moon. You can take your time with an unmanned probe as you do not have to worry about air and the capsule filling up with shite.

So there is someone left who still beleves the NASA lies.
Gigantic is not a scientific term.
It is impossible to carry a payload as big as Apollo 8 or even bigger Apollo 11 that distance during that time.
Do the maths yourself.

Apollo was hoaxed. The Japs took high def pictures of the moon which showed no evidence of any previous visits. And the lunar surface looks nothing like it did in 1969.

Apollo Moon Hoax? Dr. David Groves Analysis - YouTube

[endlessvista]

So there is someone left who still beleves the NASA lies.
Gigantic is not a scientific term.
It is impossible to carry a payload as big as Apollo 8 or even bigger Apollo 11 that distance during that time.
Do the maths yourself.

Apollo was hoaxed. The Japs took high def pictures of the moon which showed no evidence of any previous visits. And the lunar surface looks nothing like it did in 1969.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ

eh, all I stated was the escape velocity of Apollo was much faster than the Indian or "Jap" rockets and therefore would explain why it would be faster.

and that's all I stated. Learn to fucking read Sherlock.

[stelios]

eh, all I stated was the escape velocity of Apollo was much faster than the Indian or "Jap" rockets and therefore would explain why it would be faster.

and that's all I stated. Learn to fucking read Sherlock.

Take it easy matey.
Escape velocity means exactly what it says.
It is the speed you nee to be travelling in order to break free of the Earth's gravity.
So how can one 26 metric tonnes object along with those huge Saturn V rockets you spoke of have a faster escape velocity than a smaller 1-2 tonne object?
On the surface of the Earth, the escape velocity is about 7 miles per second, which is approximately 34 times the speed of sound. So whether you are firing a pea shooter or a 26 tonne space craft the escape velocity is the same.
Gravity is the same so a heavier/larger object needs more power more thrust to achieve escape velocity.

Whatever way you work it out the apollo moon orbits and landings are a hoax.

[tabea_blumenschein]

India has launched a rocket to the moon.
Further proof of the NASA Apollo faked moon landing?

Chandrayaan will take 15 days to reach the lunar orbit
The spacecraft will rotate for about five-and-a-half days before firing the engine to slow its velocity for moon's gravity to capture it
weight of the unmanned module was 1380 kg at launch

ok

But in 1968 Apollo 8 took less than three days to reach the lunar orbit
the crew burned the retro rockets for 11 seconds to slow its velocity for moon's gravity to capture it
orbited ten times over the course of 20 hours
weight of the manned command module was 28,817 kg

am i missing something or does the 1968 manned moon mission sound like total horseshit

in 1969 Apollo 11 aparantly the first manned mission to land on the Moon
Launched on 16.07.1969
4 days later Armstrong and Aldrin supposedly landed on the Moon
weight of the manned command module was 30,320 kg
weight of the Lunar Module was 16,448 kg

does the maths add up or did the laws of physics become the laws of the magic carpet?

Stelios, why don't you learn some basic physics and then do some reading up on the history of space flight before you embarass yourself again by posting nonsense like this?

Thank you.

[pinkfreud]

cant help thinking that india launched 'chandrayaan' right after the indo-us nuke deal got the approval in the us senate.

i dont know if im jumping to conclusions but ive been worried ever since the present government here seems to have taken up on a whole lot of 'bilateral agreements' during the bush presidency.


As we discussed on another thread, there are many sound reasons why other nations would collaborate with the US over this.

could u please post the link hagbard?

[stelios]

Stelios, why don't you learn some basic physics and then do some reading up on the history of space flight before you embarass yourself again by posting nonsense like this?

Thank you.
Pray tell exactly what do you mean?
It seems pretty clear to me, it does not take 3 days to get to the moon it takes far longer.

But you go ahead and embarrass me.

[tabea_blumenschein]

Stelios:

Chandrayaan will employ a Hohmann transfer orbit to take it to the vicinity of the moon. If you'd like to read up on what a Hohmann Transfer Orbit is, here is the Hohmann transfer orbit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and here is a quote from that page:

A Hohmann transfer orbit will take a spacecraft from low Earth orbit (LEO) to geosynchronous orbit (GEO) in just over five hours (geostationary transfer orbit), from LEO to the Moon (lunar transfer orbit, LTO) in about 5 days and from the Earth to Mars in about 214 days. However, Hohmann transfers are very slow for trips to more distant points, so when visiting the outer planets it is common to use a gravitational slingshot to increase speed in-flight.

Hohmann transfers are supposed to take longer than the quicker, more direct routes chosen for the Apollo missions.

Yes, Stelios, there's actually more than one way to get from point a to point b when it comes to space missions.

[deckard]

Australia should have launched a rocket to the moon by now, ARS Kangaroo -1V would do.

One great leap for Australia, one giant leap for mankind..

[tracker]

i dont believe any of them landed on the moon , and besides the evidance is so obvious a 5 year old can spot it .

the landing rockets didnt even kick up any dust from the surface below .
when thousands mentioned it to nasa the next landing suddenly all dust kicked up .
so fine we can allow a larger landing booster rocket to kick up dust because its bigger than the 1st , but the 1st should have kicked up dust anyway and it didnt .
it didnt because it didnt go to the moon . thats what happens when you dont know how to fake a moon landing .:cool:

[tracker]

Australia should have launched a rocket to the moon by now, ARS Kangaroo -1V would do.

One great leap for Australia, one giant leap for mankind..
well you know what they say decard .
the australians couldnt give a "castle main XXXX" for anything else.:cool:

[deckard]

well you know what they say decard .
the australians couldnt give a "castle main XXXX" for anything else.:cool:

The first thing we would on landing is probably crack open a stubbie of beer.

[tracker]

The first thing we would on landing is probably crack open a stubbie of beer.

lol , the moon landings make me laugh , we have more chances of setting up shop on the surface of the sun than we have landing on the moon .
and it would totally make my day if india exposed all the crap about the moon and whats really behind it and on it .
mind you if they do ever land there some time whats the bet they set up a tiny little shop that opens 24/7 .:D

[deckard]

lol , the moon landings make me laugh , we have more chances of setting up shop on the surface of the sun than we have landing on the moon .
and it would totally make my day if india exposed all the crap about the moon and whats really behind it and on it .
mind you if they do ever land there some time whats the bet they set up a tiny little shop that opens 24/7 .:D

arpoo's quickymart

[hagbard_celine]

could u please post the link hagbard?

Sure: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21926

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13588

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6097

[theantisystem]

[QUOTE=stelios;579868]

Apollo was hoaxed. The Japs took high def pictures of the moon which showed no evidence of any previous visits. And the lunar surface looks nothing like it did in 1969.

What you mean they didnt take photos of the desert in area 51 damn. Apollo come on as if it could POSSIBLY have been REAL. I cant believe anyone still thinks they did it
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[stelios]

Hohmann transfers are supposed to take longer than the quicker, more direct routes chosen for the Apollo missions.

Apollo 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apollo 8 also went into orbit around the Earth before supposedly flying to the moon
Even though the mission was only changed from an Earth orbit to a Lunar orbit a few months prior to launch.

Total bollocks.