First plane

[deckard]

Does anyone know of any footage of the first tower being hit?
I have seen thousands of clips showing the second one of course, but yet to find anything of the first hit.

[bigus_dickus]

Does anyone know of any footage of the first tower being hit?
I have seen thousands of clips showing the second one of course, but yet to find anything of the first hit.

there is only one, the one with the workers.

[oddblock]

there is only one, the one with the workers.

The workers? Sorry, not sure which one you mean :(

[kreesurgeon]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UpONEX8tme8

[kreesurgeon]

Does anyone know of any footage of the first tower being hit?
I have seen thousands of clips showing the second one of course, but yet to find anything of the first hit.

Can't you get youtube on your computer? you should get a Mac.:)

[deckard]

Can't you get youtube on your computer? you should get a Mac.:)

I have PC and utube, I didnt bother looking for it, because I have never seen any footage of it on the news, thanks for the vid, Im going to check it out right now.

[mynameis]

I have PC and utube, I didnt bother looking for it, because I have never seen any footage of it on the news, thanks for the vid, Im going to check it out right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9sM7N1Hz9k

[dave52]

This covers all the bases... 2 actual vids, Naudet and Paval Hlava, but there are also some stills and an audio recording...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NKyNl26s3ic

[helloperator]

There are 3...the one from the Naudet crew....a 4 second interval webcam which shows the plane's approach and some Russian guy who filmed the fireball/ smoke but not the plane.

[deckard]

the pavel one didnt show much, but that one with the firefighters was unbelievable.

I think if I had been there I would have known straight away, that this was not an accident I was wittnessing, that it was intentional.

[dave52]

the pavel one didnt show much, but that one with the firefighters was unbelievable.

I think if I had been there I would have known straight away, that this was not an accident I was wittnessing, that it was intentional.

If you've got the time - worth consideration:

Naudet First Plane Shot Staged (http://www.frankresearch.info/Naudet911/JULES%20NAUDET%20Home%20Page.htm)

[deckard]

If you've got the time - worth consideration:
Naudet First Plane Shot Staged (http://www.frankresearch.info/Naudet911/JULES%20NAUDET%20Home%20Page.htm)

Looks normal to me, he saw and heard the plane go over a lot lower than it should have, and miles from a normal flight path, and pointed the camera in its direction going away from him.
I agree that its definitely a coverup but, by the US government.

[banoyes]

the pavel one didnt show much, but that one with the firefighters was unbelievable.

I think if I had been there I would have known straight away, that this was not an accident I was wittnessing, that it was intentional.
You are it seems new at this.
The Naudet brothers is fake, a set up by professionals-
you can research that
try
thewebfairy.com
or killtown
I like the way the plane "morphs" as it approaches.

[phildee3]

Does anyone know of any footage of the first tower being hit?



Dubya does.
He watched it before he went into the classroom.
When do we get to see it?

[deckard]

You are it seems new at this.
The Naudet brothers is fake, a set up by professionals-
you can research that
try
thewebfairy.com
or killtown
I like the way the plane "morphs" as it approaches.

??

[deckard]

Dubya does.
He watched it before he went into the classroom.
When do we get to see it?

He didnt watch anything, but he was told how things were about to happen probably.

[sidlittle]

Looks normal to me, he saw and heard the plane go over a lot lower than it should have, and miles from a normal flight path, and pointed the camera in its direction going away from him.
I agree that its definitely a coverup but, by the US government.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM&feature=PlayList&p=B2C5909A67D49AE0&index=0

Understand what you are watching here at 2.25-4min.

Think about it.

Cheers.

[mynameis]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM&feature=PlayList&p=B2C5909A67D49AE0&index=0

Understand what you are watching here at 2.25-4min.

Think about it.

Cheers.

And after that think about this...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17453&highlight=chek

[deckard]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM&feature=PlayList&p=B2C5909A67D49AE0&index=0
understand what you are watching here at 2.25-4min.
Think about it.
Cheers.

Think about what?
You hear the plane go over them anyway, let me guess, taped onto the vid probably right?
Plausible I guess, the photoshop job, is new to me, and who knows, it could be true.
There is probably more to come , this is a bigger coverup than JFK even.

[mynameis]

Think about what?
You hear the plane go over them anyway, let me guess, taped onto the vid probably right?
Plausible I guess, the photoshop job, is new to me, and who knows, it could be true.
There is probably more to come , this is a bigger coverup than JFK even.

Yep. John was pointing out the discrepancy of an untrained eye of amateur 911. I think that the other buildings may have caused the person with the camera problems with focusing on the location of the sound of an air craft. Bigger than JFK.

[sidlittle]

And after that think about this...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17453&highlight=chek

lol. Did you even read through that thread?

My post on page 4..

Just a quick comment on the original post.

Classic strawman 'debunking' (IMHO).

First of all, I believe the 'penciled in gash' is contentious. Hear that? A NPT'er who doesn't agree with Simon shack on everything. Yeah thats right, believe it or not, we all have different ideas despite the constant attempts to marginalize NPT. There are no leaders of the 'NPT movement'. No one is following Nico Haupt, Simon Shack nor the Concordia foundation.

Quite apparent to anyone who watches 911 Amateur Part 2, the focus of the video is the creation of the plane shaped hole 6 seconds after the supposed impact of Flight11. This is evident from 2min 25 seconds - 4min in the video below

Of course, not a word about this in the original post.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQmxS-DpyM

http://i34.tinypic.com/167ru6u.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/fctkdl.jpg


There is no gash until six seconds after impact.

Smoke does not obscure the gash. There is no gash. It's not there. Period.

Anyone interested in truth should get hold of the Naudet DVD and look for themselves. Buy it second hand of course, don't give these tossers any more money.

[deckard]

Yep. John was pointing out the discrepancy of an untrained eye of amateur 911. I think that the other buildings may have caused the person with the camera problems with focusing on the location of the sound of an air craft. Bigger than JFK.

huh?

[mynameis]

huh?

I was just echoing your Bigger than JFK sentiment. Since, an airplane can be heard and the cameraman doesn't focus on the plane, because he can't see it due to the reverberation of the surrounding echoes off the buildings.

[deckard]

I was just echoing your Bigger than JFK sentiment. Since, an airplane can be heard and the cameraman doesn't focus on the plane, because he can't see it due to the reverberation of the surrounding echoes off the buildings.
I dont think he had time to be honest, a plane goes pretty fast buddy, and by the time he got the camera up it had already gone overhead.

[mynameis]

I dont think he had time to be honest, a plane goes pretty fast buddy, and by the time he got the camera up it had already gone overhead.

Be careful, lightgiver my post a picture of himself again like he did with me here. He's a sensitive one, he is.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=577016&postcount=59

[deckard]

Be careful, lightgiver my post a picture of himself again like he did with me here. He's a sensitive one, he is.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=577016&postcount=59

that really doesnt make any sense at all.

[mynameis]

that really doesnt make any sense at all.

Well lightgiver likes the picture...perhaps you shouldn't tick him off, he might send you something similar.

[deckard]

Well lightgiver likes the picture...perhaps you shouldn't tick him off, he might send you something similar.

Im not trying to tick anyone off, I dont even know lightgiver.

[krakhead]

In an attempt to get the thread back on track (;)) -

Deckard - do you not find it odd that, in the Naudet footage, he pans his camera DIRECTLY at the impact site? No waving around, no overshoot. This always struck me as odd.

And that's without the bizarre set up they are filming in the first place! A street shut down so some men can 'poke about a bit' seemingly aimlessly until, lo and behold, perfect shot of the first plane hitting!

[mynameis]

Im not trying to tick anyone off, I dont even know lightgiver.

I don't either. Thankfully...:D

[deckard]

In an attempt to get the thread back on track (;)) -
Deckard - do you not find it odd that, in the Naudet footage, he pans his camera DIRECTLY at the impact site? No waving around, no overshoot. This always struck me as odd.
And that's without the bizarre set up they are filming in the first place! A street shut down so some men can 'poke about a bit' seemingly aimlessly until, lo and behold, perfect shot of the first plane hitting!

No, because he probably saw the plane going in that direction, so pointed the camera that way.
What are the guys filming anyway? Whats it for? Was it for some doco?

[krakhead]

No, because he probably saw the plane going in that direction, so pointed the camera that way.
What are the guys filming anyway? Whats it for? Was it for some doco?

Did you read the site linked to by dave52 in post #11?

Worth reading IMO.

[deckard]

Did you read the site linked to by dave52 in post #11?
Worth reading IMO.

A load of waffle mostly, didnt tell me what I wanted, unless I missed it.

[dave52]

I've always believed the Naudets were part of the Psyop. The official documentors if you will. Watch their 9/11 movie with a critical eye, they seem to be in the right place at the right time - every time. The first hit is a case in point.

Fireman investigating a gas leak on a busy New York street on a Tuesday morning. One of the Naudets tags along for "camera practice". That's right - he's not the talented one, yet he manages to catch the first strike perfectly. Aided by the fact that he's in the perfect position because of the chosen street (no tall buildings blocking that view), and the fact that the street is all closed off to traffic (would they actually do this for suspected gas leak at rush hour in New York?).

Also notice the "Holy Shit" meme...


This is worth watching too -

Super Not It Bros (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=5163)

[graflok]

Anyone know the exact street corner that the "gas leak footage" was shot?

[deckard]

Anyone know the exact street corner that the "gas leak footage" was shot?

At 8.46 a.m. on September 11, 2001, at the intersection of Church and Lispenard Streets
in Manhattan, one of two French film-making brothers, 28-year-old Jules Naudet was
filming a group of firemen from Ladder 1/Engine 7 at 100 Duane Street, checking for an
alleged suspected gas leak, when he captured what was thought to be unique film of
American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston flying into the north tower of the World Trade
Center, three quarters of a mile away.

[lightgiver]

Does anyone know of any footage of the first tower being hit?
I have seen thousands of clips showing the second one of course, but yet to find anything of the first hit.

You know me now:Dgo to my posts on this section,and you will get plenty info,make sure you dig deep;)and not just a shell scrape:D

click on links.
911: In Plane Site - The Directors Cut - Full High Quality Video:

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-5386487651203625811&ei=Vp3_SLXpDILi2gK9t_icBQ&q=in+plane+site&hl=en


http://www.edgemediatv.com/watchonli...ontheedge.html

do not worry about eminem,he just cannot get over that picture i posted.HA HA.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39700&page=6

[lightgiver]

In an attempt to get the thread back on track (;)) -

Deckard - do you not find it odd that, in the Naudet footage, he pans his camera DIRECTLY at the impact site? No waving around, no overshoot. This always struck me as odd.

And that's without the bizarre set up they are filming in the first place! A street shut down so some men can 'poke about a bit' seemingly aimlessly until, lo and behold, perfect shot of the first plane hitting!

Came across this post on info war thread,

Even in the Naudet Brothers’ NWO shill video (they’re Freemason whores - nobody else could have been perfectly set up to get, in focus, the first plane hit the first (WTC1) those dummies failed to edit out the four businessmen who walked out of a WTC 1 elevator in the lobby on 9/11 20+ minutes AFTER the 1st plane hit that building. IMPOSSIBLE unless the government’s story was a complete lie!

and anther comment,
The research of Ray Ubinger is here:

http://911foreknowledge.com/

His section on Father Judge is here:

http://911foreknowledge.com/judge.htm

Ubinger does a fairly complete analysis, in detail, of the Naudets Bros. moving picture sequences.

(Note "Naudets" is an anagram for "Duane St." which is the place the fire house stood. "#1" firehouse, 2nd closest to the "Big Lie Hole" and not one firefighter from there died that day! Though ~500 + firefighters from other firehouses did.)

The iconic photo of Judge shows his disembodied-looking hand, pointing down, which resembles the hand photos I saw at the Anniversary Photo Exhibit. Judge's hand is in the center foreground, to the right, in the photo:

http://flyingphuk.blogspot.com/2008/02/father-judges-pointing-hand.html

It's at a different angle than the disembodied hands shown on the sidewalks. And I only noticed it *after* I saw the other photos and thought they were strange. And noticed later how much Judge's called to mind the other hands.

I'm not a complete expert on the Naudets footage, as is Ubinger, but I've studied sections of it.

It's so upsetting to me, that I prefer not to watch it. Especially with the creepy soothing voice of, I believe Jules, in the "commentary."

Question: what is the official reason for Father's Judge's death? He died in the lobby before the Tower disintegrated. Everyone shown around him was alive. How could a fire on the 80th floor, 1/4 of a mile away, kill you if you are on the ground? Of smoke inhalation? There isn't a mark on his body. Heart Attack? If you actually study the vid, I am told, it looks like they are killing him.

We have photographs of the intact elevators - which are part of the Naudets footage itself. (People speculate that fire (from kerosine jet fuel?) flowed a fourth of a mile down into the Lobby?!).

Anyway, the cause of Judge's death is not clear to me. Many believe the Naudets work is actually a snuff film. Because of the music and emotion, the logical mind doesn't have a chance to intervene and say, of what we are told and expected to believe, "that doesn't make sense?" Or are people just accustomed to a "suspension of disbelief" from watching too many TV shows and movies? So that their practical innocence translates to "non-fiction" moving images, giving real life murderous hoaxers an advantage?

Does something called "Revelation of the Method" make sense in this case?

The stupid evil psychopathic thing is done right in front of you, and if you go along, watch it and nod your head .... well, you then you are made, by default, to collude.

You've given your tacit permission.

And therefore your sub-conscious mind fights that much harder to deny the actual reality? Or is that a factor in "black magic?" - getting the victim(s) to collude?

I've found that *some* people need no research, no discussion, no prompting and they *notice themself* that - at least for the Pentagon and Shanksville PA incidents - there are no planes. Just by what their own eyes showed them over the TV!

Other peeps take from authority what they are told. And fill in the fuzziness and illogicalness, and mis-matched logic, by their own subtle will, to make it all make conform to what they *already* know. Group pressure, I think?

I *do* know the famous "first hit" clip allegedly taken from Lispenard Street and Church by Naudets, does not match an image of anything close to what an actual common aircraft looks like.

For years no one noticed this except for my friend "The Webfairy":

Check it out for yourself, please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gFF0Y_qf7o

i wonder if they have freemasonic or elitist links?

[hw spartan]

Here Deckard try this site, has few
http://www.911docs.net/

:)

[lightgiver]

Any more info,try to remember peeps to put a title on your post.help spread the message;)