Evanescence symbology

[cmdr_sabbathius]

My current avatar is the symbol for the rock band Evanescence. The official word is that it is a stylized 'e', but what do you all make of it?

p.s. have you ever heard anything said about it before? I haven't.

[mikeproteau]

My current avatar is the symbol for the rock band Evanescence. The official word is that it is a stylized 'e', but what do you all make of it?

p.s. have you ever heard anything said about it before? I haven't.

yes, the e, enron, dell computers, intel, its the E thats always different, it lookes like 2 different starting points merging into infiniti

[phoenixchilde]

It also kind of looks like a weapon. Picture the two outward curves as sharpened edges with the handle being in the middle.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

it lookes like 2 different starting points merging into infiniti

A stylized version of the Discordian's 'five fingered hand', then? : -><-

Is Amy Lee Hartzler really the Goddess Eris in the flesh? If you've heard the current news regarding Evanescence, you really got to wonder! We're basically in a civil war over on evthreads.com right now. Of course, I'm on Amy's side. ;)

Also, it is interesting you should use the word 'infiniti', because infiniti would be like the opposite of 'evanescence', as evanescence means like fleeting, disappearing like a vapour.

Anyhow, as Mr. Spock would say, "fascinating".

;)

[cmdr_sabbathius]

quick, kids! http://www.evanescence.com !

tell me. What do you see?

[freespark]

The whole montage on their front page looks like an eye. I also noted 3 butterflies. Dunno if that has any significance.

[freespark]

I reckon alot of these things are made by the marketing/management companies so maybe the bands involved are oblivious to the subtleties of the symbolism.

They are just along for the ride....most of them.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Freespark, I don't know what you mean by the whole montage looking like an eye, as for the butterflies, I don't know if there's any significance there, either.

But did you notice the 666 above where it says Evanescence and then there's the inverted pentagram hanging from the ceiling. I'm surprised you didn't notice those.

p.s. I am in no way saying that Ev is satanic because I do not believe they are.

[limelady]

Freespark, I don't know what you mean by the whole montage looking like an eye, as for the butterflies, I don't know if there's any significance there, either.

But did you notice the 666 above where it says Evanescence and then there's the inverted pentagram hanging from the ceiling. I'm surprised you didn't notice those.

p.s. I am in no way saying that Ev is satanic because I do not believe they are.

Hi there!

the 666 is easy to spot (in the curls of the hair-like swirls othat cover the face), the petagram is a little obscure though I see what you mean. The 3 butterflies are significant as they are considered triggers of monarch mind- programming.

I haven't heard anything 'satanic' about Evanescence, but looking at that symbolism I feel they are being used (likely unaware) ....like so many other bands.

[freespark]

Freespark, I don't know what you mean by the whole montage looking like an eye, as for the butterflies, I don't know if there's any significance there, either.

But did you notice the 666 above where it says Evanescence and then there's the inverted pentagram hanging from the ceiling. I'm surprised you didn't notice those.

p.s. I am in no way saying that Ev is satanic because I do not believe they are.

Hey sabbath...load up the page and then take a look at the page as an image in itself...its in the general shape of an eye. There are wisps of white near the centre that form the outline of a pupil.

The largest butterfly is in the pupil. You have to look at the page as if its an image in itself.

Edit: in fact looking at it now, it looks like all the butterflies are in the pupil and the inverted pentagram hanging down into it.

[freespark]

Freespark, I don't know what you mean by the whole montage looking like an eye, as for the butterflies, I don't know if there's any significance there, either.

But did you notice the 666 above where it says Evanescence and then there's the inverted pentagram hanging from the ceiling. I'm surprised you didn't notice those.

p.s. I am in no way saying that Ev is satanic because I do not believe they are.

Hehe just spotted the 3 sixes and the inverted pentagram...

[cmdr_sabbathius]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9181160334292747130

Apparantly from http://www.soulhackers.com/

^ I went there and all I got is their logo and motto and a brief message stating "Massive updates coming soon."

I wonder who these crackpots are. I'm off to do a little googling. ;)

edit: Here we go! > http://who.securepaynet.net/WhoIs.aspx?domain=soulhackers.com&prog_id=domainspricedright

...and I did not get such intel from google. lol

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Evanescence Reversed!!! http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FE4658E1A7CC7F97

Especially check out the one of 'Going Under'! I like the one of 'The Only One' too cause that's my fav. song and they give you the full lyrics of the song reversed there.

[limelady]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9181160334292747130

Apparantly from http://www.soulhackers.com/

^ I went there and all I got is their logo and motto and a brief message stating "Massive updates coming soon."

I wonder who these crackpots are. I'm off to do a little googling. ;)

edit: Here we go! > http://who.securepaynet.net/WhoIs.aspx?domain=soulhackers.com&prog_id=domainspricedright

...and I did not get such intel from google. lol

Yes, rabid Christians awaiting the rapture :rolleyes:.....but I watched the video and I have to admit they have highlighted some interesting points. I have always loved Evanescence's music when I hear it, but there is some weird stuff going on in that vid for sure.....it does have a 'dark' feel about it too IMO.

[ho1ogram]

LOL.. When the page loaded for me the song playing was 'sweet sacrifice'.

There is a crucifix in the name, between the letters N E.

There are two pillars, the significance of this is in another thread, I'll look it up later or someone else can post it.

There is a bat wing or reptillian wing lower left. You can see glowing eyes under darkened hoods on either side of the page, they're highlighted when the image fades.

If you follow the 666 behind the name the trails end at an infinity or figure eight symbol.

I reckon alot of these things are made by the marketing/management companies so maybe the bands involved are oblivious to the subtleties of the symbolism.

They are just along for the ride....most of them.

I agree with this. IMO the record label bosses have the secret society memberships and are a part of the brotherhood. The bands are just unwitting tools... until and if such time as they give themselves away to money and power and join the label bosses in their brotherhood rituals.

The pr person of the label just shows the band some imagary and the band goes, "yeah that looks cool" without underatnding what it is all about.

[ho1ogram]

"Fear is only in our minds, but it's taking over all the time" - 'Sweet Sacrifice.'

[ho1ogram]

There are two pillars, the significance of this is in another thread, I'll look it up later or someone else can post it.

I found some info. in The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by B.G.Walker:

The twin phallic pillars at the temple gate date back to Egyptian times. This was copied when King Solomon's Temple was built at Jerusalem, the pillars were named Jachin and Boaz. They are used by freemasons and given occult meanings in their rituals. In Masonic symbolism the pillars are coloured black and white representing the god of light and the god of darkness or sun and moon. This is pretty interesting because when you look at the Evanescence page, a black and white pillar stand on either side of the dark entrance... an entrance to what? A monarch programes mind?

Pillar worship was Christainised in the cult of Simon Stylites and other saints' tales. I've never heard of Simon Stylites before, just passing on the info as I find it.

The 3 butterflies are significant as they are considered triggers of monarch mind- programming. Sounds very significant! They also flash alternately, (along with some other things in the image) and they are between the pillars. I just worked out that the golden light at the bottom in the shape of a thin bent rod is the light from the door opening.

[freespark]

Am i the only one who sees the 'eye' i mentioned in posts above?

I'm not crazy i promise!!! :D

[ho1ogram]

Re the eye; it's vague but I can see what you're saying.

[freespark]

Lol just been looking at the website again....'family values' tour!! ROFL! That's funny man.

[limelady]

Am i the only one who sees the 'eye' i mentioned in posts above?

I'm not crazy i promise!!! :D


Lol....no, you're not crazy freespark. I saw what you meant by an eye.
I just forgot to mention it. Sorry! :D

[freespark]

You are forgiven my dear polly! :D

[ho1ogram]

The S in their name also looks like a snake

On their news page they also have the three flashing butterflies in front of a doorway, two pillars in the window on the left and the bat/reptile wing displayed (though it looks like an umbrella..lol..maybe it is?). There is also a bird in a cage; symbol for the trapped mind of a monarch mind control slave?
http://www.evanescence.com/news.asp

Monarch Alters and Triggers
"There are an inordinate amount of alters in the victim/survivor with numerous back-up programs, mirrors and shadows. A division of light-side (good) and dark-side (bad) alters are interwoven in the mind and rotate on an axis.
One of the main internal structures, (of which their are many) within the system is shaped like a double-helix, consisting of seven levels. Each system has an internal programmer which oversees the “gatekeeper”(demons?) who grant or deny entry into the different rooms (the two pages which display a doorway also have the bat/reptillian wing). A few of the internal images predominately seen by victims/survivors are trees, the Cabalistic “Tree of Life,” with adjoining root systems, infinity loops, ancient symbols and letters, spider webs, mirrors or glass shattering, masks, castles, mazes, demons/monsters/aliens, sea shells, butterflies, snakes, ribbons, bows, flowers, hour glasses, clocks, robots, chain-of-command diagrams and/or schematics of computer circuitry boards."
http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html

There is an infinity logo here in the wispy stuff (also looks like the eyes in a facial outline of wispy stuff) and a tree.
http://www.evanescence.com/gallery.asp

So they have a few monarch triggers on their site.

Interestingly they have two new band members from a Warner bros. band called Dark New Day. Evanescence' new album is called The Open Door. They debuted their new line up on May 19th at Columbus's Crew Stadium at the Rock on the Range Festival.

How far do you take this? We know the Illuminati are obsessed with ritual events... well we have new members from a band called Dark New Day (from lumie label WB), a cd called The Open Door (to an MK Ultra victim's mind?) and new line up debut's at a rock festival (who's sucking that group energy?) at a place called Columbus' Crew Stadium! If they are being unwittingly used in Monarch programs it is pretty interesting... or am I as crazy as freespark and his eye? (Only jokin' mate, we're not crazy just creative. :D) Anyway I had fun looking into it.

They're on a label called 'wind up records' and if you look at this page http://www.winduprecords.com/artwork/evanescence.html the first photo is a promo shot. The bed-head has a triangular look with an eye shape at the top, not unlike the most popular lumie logo. The second photo looks like an eye within an eye and the c.d. is called 'Anywhere But Home' (as in "your mind is anywhere but at home"?).

They had a cd called 'Fallen' and two of their early hits were 'Bring me to Life' and 'My Immortal'. The victim/survivor is called a “slave” by the programmer/handler, who in turn is perceived as “master” or “god.” http://www.aches-mc.org/monarch.html

My understanding of the way popular culture is used in mind control programs is that the occult symbolism and themes (like gothic imagery such as Evanescence display) is taken up by groups and teenagers who don't understand that it can be used for real on certain people. So then the programmers have a ready made source of material that is already in the public domain from which they can pick what they wish to use on certain mind control victims' mind alters.

There is more stuff too but that's enough for now. I'm not sure how far to take these things but it is fun.

Oh yeah, there are a lot spirals on their site. According to B.G. Walker Spirals "appear prominently in places like the threshold stones at New Grange in Ireland and the Al Tarxien temple in Malta." The threshold forms the bottom of a doorway and is crossed when entering a room (or a new compartment in a fractured mind?). "Spirals represented the serpent guardians of Sumerian temples. The spiral was connected with the idea of death and rebirth..." (like the death of one altered personality and rebirth of another?).

Dunno if it means anything but they like their flying birds and insects in threes. As well as on the news and home pages they are here: http://www.evanescence.com/gallery.asp http://www.evanescence.com/tour.asp

[limelady]

Hey ho1ogram, you've got some great stuff here! I share many of your thoughts re the Evanescence symbolism in association with the Monarch mind-control programming triggers. Some of that stuff is very telling.

Loving your delving....well done and thanks!

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Detailed view of Evanescence logo -

http://cdnd.winduprecords.com/evanescence/art/evanescencelogo_black_on_wh.jpg

The 'hooks' on the bottoms of the last two 'E's have always reminded me of vampire teeth. (lol) and I am a believer in vampires a la 'Catherine NightPoe's Vampiric Studies website (non-ev related) - http://www.geocities.com/vampiricstudies/ although I do not agree with Catherine on the idea that there are no 'half-breed', 'quarter-breed' vampires, etc. and I have my own reasons for that. We won't go there.

Did anyone check out the 'Going Under' backwards sound clip I believe I mentioned upstairs on page 2? Something about breaking through mirrors...Project Monarch?

late edit: could a moderator here please retitle this thread 'Evanescence symbology'?, as I believe that would be more accurate. thanks! :)

[cmdr_sabbathius]

Did any of y'all know that Amy sometimes does artwork / paintings too? here's an interesting one she did - http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v289/ojay2003/Amys%20pics/?action=view&current=journal06zj5.gif

[limelady]

cmdr_sabbathius asked...

late edit: could a moderator here please retitle this thread 'Evanescence symbology'?, as I believe that would be more accurate. thanks!

No problemo.....done! :D

Will check out that breaking through mirrors thing. ;)

LL

[limelady]

Did any of y'all know that Amy sometimes does artwork / paintings too? here's an interesting one she did - http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v289/ojay2003/Amys%20pics/?action=view&current=journal06zj5.gif


Oh my....butterflies again, and goddess Liberty (Semerimus)...can't make out the detail in the foreground.

More food for thought here.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

thanks, limelady! :)

here's some Ev lyrics from the Origin Era (before they became real popular) I'm gonna highlight a couple lines.

http://www.lyrics007.com/Evanescence%20Lyrics/Where%20Will%20You%20Go%20Lyrics.html

Evanescence - Where Will You Go lyrics

You're too important for anyone
You play the role of all you want to be
But I, I know who you really are
You're the one who cries before the dawn

But where will you go
With no one left to save you from yourself
You can't escape, you can't escape

You think I can't see right through your eyes
Scared to death to face reality
No one seems to hear your hidden cries
You're left to face yourself alone
But where will you go
With no one left to save you from yourself
You can't escape the truth
I realize you're afraid
But you can't abandon everyone
You can't escape, you don't want to escape

I am so sick of speaking words that no one understands
Is it clear enough that you can live your whole life all alone
I can hear you in a whisper, but you can't even hear me screaming

Where will you go
With no one left to save you from yourself
You can't escape the truth
I realize you're afraid
But you can't reject the whole world
You can't escape, you won't escape
You can't escape, you don't want to escape

[eternal_spirit]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/ojay2003/Amys%20pics/journal06zj5.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);) snakes under the butterflys and men in suits one playing a pipe ....maybe the pied piper? The monarch slave handler porgrammer.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/ojay2003/Amys%20pics/journal06zj5.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);) snakes under the butterflys and men in suits one playing a pipe ....maybe the pied piper? The monarch slave handler porgrammer.

Anybody have any way of zooming in and clarifying what eternal spirit is talking about?