Would You Consider Yourself To Be a Good Person?

[seekingthetruth]

For those of you who consider yourself to be a good person, check out this website and see if you truly are. This will answer the age old question 'Where will I spend eternity' and give you resources to help you with those tough questions. Keep in mind that I am in no way affiliated with this ministry, I simply believe it will urge you to ask some serious questions if you haven't already found the answers.

www.wayofthemaster.com

God Bless!

[madthumbs]

Wow, couldn't get past the first question. No surprise there!

Are you a good person? Are you promoting a religion that promotes rape, sex slavery, infant genital mutilation, genocide, and the killing of witches, homosexuals, and adulterers?

Lets see... Loving an imaginary friend that's associated with these atrocities, or having real morals of your own. :rolleyes:

[krakhead]

It appears I'm going to hell :(

[dedicate]

I wouldn't consider myself a good person. Wouldn't want to be a good person. Hell is full of good people and that is where they belong.

[angelmoon]

well said mad thumbs,

the older i get the more i resent the whole controlling bull of the GOD or should i say GODS thing.
if these people who worship these deities would live by the words of the books they worship the world we live in may just be a better place, but not content in just controlling there followers by using there main weapon of control, the fear of death, by promising an afterlife , they manipulate the words of the books to further control the Masses to suit there own ends

http://richarddawkins.net/

Richard dawkins speaks more sense for my own life

[zero1]

Everyone who had anything to do with that site is going to Hell for a long, long time. Just for being obnoxious, self-righteous pricks.

I'm a sinner, I'm a saint - it depends what mood I'm in. I ain't going anywhere I don't wanna go - I am a free man and a boundless soul. I am in control, not "God".

Now take your fundie Christian shit and shove it up your hellbound asses, Protestant scum.

[amethyst]

Wow, I have to say that website really really bugs me :mad:

And it's ironic because I believe in Jesus Christ. But this is like a cheap imitation of what Jesus is about, honestly it makes me gag.

Jesus is about healing and reconciliation,re-joining with God. This website presents such a cartoon version of Jesus it's a joke. Cuz when you have a spiritual encounter with the real Christ, it's no joke. You are transformed in your spirit.

No one can be good enough. We all fail. That's the whole deal. That's why Christ died in the first place. He who took on all the sin of the world....He's where God and mankind intersect and a divine exchange takes place in a person when someone recognizes that divinity.

But they are trying to force religion. Not good :(

[sickleblade]

Loll

[tracker]

For those of you who consider yourself to be a good person, check out this website and see if you truly are. This will answer the age old question 'Where will I spend eternity' and give you resources to help you with those tough questions. Keep in mind that I am in no way affiliated with this ministry, I simply believe it will urge you to ask some serious questions if you haven't already found the answers.

www.wayofthemaster.com

God Bless!


this thread is a nice thought and does incourage interaction , not bad at all .

but being good and concideration as to whether one is good or not differs between time , location and latitude longditude .

being born in one country at say 100 bc might have you think that killing a slave for asking question is the rtight good thing to do , whilst the same place but in year 2008 could be concidered bad .
yet the same time differnt location killing someone can stillbe concidered as , an honor killing thus in some way apparently to them it is a good thing to do .

am i good person ?
sometimes i might feel good about myself for what i have done , but then not every one always agrees with me .

so basicly putting it as it truly is to me

quite frankly , i care not what others think of me , and sometimes dont really care my self , i just follow what i concider atthe time tobe the logical thing to do .

long answer , sorry .:cool:

[kblood]

Depends on my mood I guess. I strive to be a good person, but sometimes I just cant be bothered. So a few days of the week, or at maybe a few days of the month, I would consider myself a good person. The rest of the time Im probably just self absorbed, and doing what I do because I feel I need to or actually need to do it.

I dont believe in hell or damnation. I guess its possible we get to repent for our sins in the afterlife, but not for all eternity, that would be quite pointless.

And what if we get to repent? I would probably feel alot better if I got to try that anyway. Probably a few things I ought to repent for but didnt even think about as something repentable...

It seems that according to most religions its all about how long it will take before we get to go to the good place. Heaven, nirvana, Shambala or whatever you would call it. Why rush it though? If you hate it here, then I think you probably have a lesson or two left to learn. At least according to some people who aim for higher spirituality, this place is just where our body is, so however our life might be, its not something that should affect us. I dont really see how its possible to not let it affect us, or at least never doing so in a negative way, but there might be something to it.

[rhydra]

I think that trying not to do harm would be good, but harm to someone who does harm? Is that bad, good or just righting an imbalance?

I don't believe in hell or damnation either or karma even, a mass murderer might be reincarnated as a nurse in another life or vice versa. In this physical world there is no such thing as bad or good, just a series of ambiguities and grey areas.

I can't really say that I am good or bad, it depends on others to judge.

My thoughts are that some people do bad things, do harm, they never actually think that they are being bad because it is all justified in their own minds and those who are with them. We have all notices that the forces of good are always on the winning side.

Each winner of a war, battle or election is victorious because they were on the side of good, had the other side won, they too would have been on the side of good.

[angelmoon]

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[angelmoon]

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[angelmoon]

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[angelmoon]

feck the lot of ya dont worry about baring me you have just proved that this is just a chrarde and i am not going to waste my subcription on fakes

[madthumbs]

if these people who worship these deities would live by the words of the books they worship the world we live in may just be a better place

Not at all. The Bible for example commands people to kill herbalists, adulterers, homosexuals, and idolators. It also commands infant genital mutilation, and instructs on rape, sex slavery and genocide.

[dedicate]

Madthumbs, you are always saying the same thing. I guess you've never heard of the New Testament, which is the "rule book" for most Christians today. Most of those things you mention, like rape, aren't given as things to do in the NT. And if anything, the New Testament teaches to act from the heart rather than by what is implied in a set of writtings.-- NT or OT or Quaran or Penal Code 432.432-43. Whatever, move with the heart.

I think you know this though, and choose to promote some other agenda. What is that? And what is that you are promoting on your web site? Do you have any sort of spiritual philosophy?

[kblood]

feck the lot of ya dont worry about baring me you have just proved that this is just a chrarde and i am not going to waste my subcription on fakes

lol :) I really hope you see all the problems with what you just did, and whatever you expected from this is not likely to happen, good person or not.

If you really want someone to help/call you, then send and personal message to him or her. You cant expect anyone to call when you ask everyone, especially when asking in such a undefined way.

I could just have well gone, "I am starving, please donate 5$ to this bank account: 23508175", and then after 5 hours of nothing happening calling everyone heartless and fakes.

[zen_fox]

Whenever I go to these websites I'm struck by the sense of separation I feel with them. These people would be the opposite of who I am. I also think they'd fit right in with the Nazis.

[madthumbs]

Madthumbs, you are always saying the same thing. I guess you've never heard of the New Testament, which is the "rule book" for most Christians today. Most of those things you mention, like rape, aren't given as things to do in the NT. And if anything, the New Testament teaches to act from the heart rather than by what is implied in a set of writtings.-- NT or OT or Quaran or Penal Code 432.432-43. Whatever, move with the heart.

I think you know this though, and choose to promote some other agenda. What is that? And what is that you are promoting on your web site? Do you have any sort of spiritual philosophy?


Jesus declares that he came to uphold the law, not destroy it. The law includes the commandments to kill the ones mentioned. Jesus (fictional character) did not speak against these things, he didn't speak against pedophilia, rape, etc.

[dedicate]

I think he said he came to "fulfill" the law not destroy it. A fulfillment, of even the laws in say the U.S, would be Justice, peace, and personal liberty. A fulfillment of the OT laws would be a Messiah and God's religion established on Earth. But maybe you could give a scripture to support your claime.

You say that he never spoke out against pedophelia, but then again he did not speak up for it. So, maybe he did speak up against it, but it is not written that he did. We don't know one way or the other.

And I'm sure you've heard these scriptures before.. "Man is not made for the law, the law is made for man".-- meaning that the needs of the individual trump the written law. Or -- "who among you would not save a trapped oxen on Sunday?".. or "let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone". The last of these was a literal response to the attempted stoning of an adulterer, and he did not judge her. But I'm sure you've heard those scriptures before.

So, whatever your spiritual philosophy may be, your website is devoted to the exposing the Christian religion as nothing but an exploitive and hypocritical "religion". That is your aim.

I don't wish to stop you. I believe there are things in this world that en-total are not a good thing for society... Like Skull and Bones..... or The Golden Dawn.. and would encourage one to have websites exposing them. You think the same is true about Christianity.

OK, but you might want to take a new look at some of your arguements,, like that above. True Christianity is always in search of love and justice irrigardless of what some book may read.-- that is what I see. And I have met Christians who practice and teach this way. In other words there are Christians who have found truth, and have not rejected Christianity, but rather found it as a useful vehicle to bring others to the same truth.-- Summit University, Max Heindel, Bishop Michael Miccari, Thomas Merton.

[bigus_dickus]

Not at all. The Bible for example commands people to kill herbalists, adulterers, homosexuals, and idolators. It also commands infant genital mutilation, and instructs on rape, sex slavery and genocide.

wtf? which bible?

i guess the satanic bible promotes unconditional love and kindness then?

[bigus_dickus]

eh, WTF, i answered "innocent" to all questions and the "test" still pre assumes that i have answered "guilty" to at least one of them.

that's not a test, it's a joke.

the guy who made this seems to be incapable to fathom an innocent human being.

[dedicate]

I might want to ammend my statement on Golden Dawn. I had the belief that golden Dawn was the hermetic magical order started by A. Crowley. After some research I found that it was not started up by Crowley, though he was a member at one time. The original membership was Mathers, who I don't know anything about. It seems that there is a history of certain orders of Golden Dawn using these Rosicrucian, Kabbalistic, etc.. teachings for good and some use them for evil.

So as a second example of a totally useless group in need of "outing",,, might be Temple of Set.

[seekingthetruth]

I'm always amazed at how these topics get so turned around that they are no longer relevent to the point raised in the beginning. I think it's safe to say if everyone read the Bible in it's context, it would make perfect sence to the reader.

And No Madthumbs ... for the hundredth time Christianity does not support the things you mentioned ... making things up about Christianity doesn't mean it's true ... not sure how I can make that any clearer. (Oh why bother, you'll just say the same thing in the next Christian post regardless of what I say ... do you just copy and paste your comments on every post now?)

Here's a suggestion for those who rail against the Bible ... you are free to say whatever you want ... that being said, please educate yourself on the subject before hand. Why don't you actually try reading the Bible and contribute to the discusssions rather than Quoting some hip 'Fonzy' like professor you heard ranting off in University ... Ehhhhhh .... :cool:

[dedicate]

"Bible in it's context"?-- The context of the Bible is the Bible. Does not make any sense to say "Bible in it's context." I think what you are really saying is, "if you understand the Bible as I understand the Bible, then we could agree on everything." That is what you would like, and that is the only way you know.

You are a baby Christian. You are in need of constant care and good environment, otherwise you will be uncomfortable. And you don't want that. What you are looking for is a pat on the head from your fellow followers and when you fall down, given a little pacifyer and told that all is forgiven and you will be OK. Time to grow up, little one.

I'm upset with you, because the last time you were on this site, you did not address one of my questions specifically.. but simply disappeared into the night only just now to reappear with some more of your fundamentalism promotions.

[seekingthetruth]

Dedicate ... I'm not sure what questions you are referring to, but to be honest, I'm not interested in discussing anything with you. If you were truly interested in having some of your questions answered, then why not try a new strategy and treat others like human beings ... that way you might actually get somewhere. It seems fairly obvious that you and a few other people on this site are simply trying to start fights with Christians rather than actually consider the answers you are graciously given. I'm sure you consider yourself to be an 'intelligent free thinking person', but that's not what I'm getting from you in the discussions I've witnessed so far. I have absolutely no respect for people who sink to such childish levels like name calling, so you might as well move on.

[dedicate]

Christian Fundamentalism is the scourge. Turns so many good people off from Christianity and on the other hand squeezes the life out of those it holds. -- Much like Whahabi Muslim or Sunni Muslim. I mention them just so i will not be thought as just attacking Christians. I think that was something you called us on the last time you were here.. And if you read my other posts all over this site, you might seeee that I am not about "starting fights with Christians".-- I like Christianity.

Sure I'm blunt. Especially with Fundamental Christians, because for one thing I think they need it. And for another thing, they are the ones I often run into during my personal search.-- Like the living dead in a zombie movie. Fundamentals are so engrained in a system that is unhealthy that they need strong medicine to get out of it. But I'm really am at wits end as to what that strong medicine might be. Maybe I should just leave it to God to give them a swift kick in the pants. Because they are going to get it.

[madthumbs]

And No Madthumbs ... for the hundredth time Christianity does not support the things you mentioned ... making things up about Christianity doesn't mean it's true ... not sure how I can make that any clearer.

Name a single thing I made up. :rolleyes:

[fromthatshow]

heh this is ridiculous
we are all good people

[armoured_amazon]

Yes, I'd consider myself to be a good person and I don't need a site to tell me if it's true. Do I always act like a good person? No.

[amethyst]

Yes, I'd consider myself to be a good person and I don't need a site to tell me if it's true. Do I always act like a good person? No.

True. Both good points.