Spartans Talk on 9\11

[hw spartan]

Spartans Talk on 9\11

i put this thread in wrong section, only because my views on 9\11
are based on God...
..but my views are somewhat abit diffrent than mainstream conspiracy.

if you aint religious, i still recomend you see that it was Aliens.

here is the link that started it.
http://www.englishrussia.com/?p=501
my name is Spartan in the link.

also
In conjuction to the thread heres 1 of my proofs

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxo_UntbYA

link
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxo_UntbYA

notice where it is(the UFO) read why in my 1st post:)

also
Does any one reckon they know what that symbol means.
ive seen photos before the Firebrigade show up
but, after??? please dont tell me its Firebrigade related..
..to me looks like a goat??
anyone know??

http://members.shaw.ca/freedomsix/pics/pentagon-punchout.gif

heres diffrent pic

http://www.911truth.dk/first/img/pentagonExitHoleLarge.jpg

heres a before pic

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/docs/exit_hole3.jpg

heres a after ,bit to left of hole

http://www.defenselink.mil/DODCMSShare/NewsPhoto/2001-09/010914-F-4692S-002.jpg

here i show you it was the laser

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/pentagon9-11.jpg

here is where the demonic symbols on both sides are

http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exit3.jpeg

i could paste more to proove it was the great laser from the sky:):)

also
Building 7(wtc 7) laser hit also
1st heres the floor plan

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/WTC_Building_Arrangement_and_Site_Plan_(building_7 _highlighted).jpg

here is building 7 after laser hit, note metal bend inward the center of
hole, like it was pushed down?

http://www.debunking911.com/barclay.jpg

here its all packet up, notice debri, only in 1 direction?

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/gz_aerial_wtc7.jpg

here you can see the fashion of its fall, like a hit in the top middle, note
all window shater in few seconds, demolitions dont do that?

http://www.chico911truth.org/images/11rfa911fwtc7.jpg

not sure, cant find the pic i once saw, off building 7 right after fall,
it looks like it was colapsed twice compared to the pic ive seen,but il keep searching:cool:

Please keep in mind, im just searching, i feel this wasnt fully human, and we are about to taste the full:cool:

[hw spartan]

Here is a whole lot of UFO activety in the air dureing 9\11
wich no one can fit in "the second conspiracy"
1st= it was Bin Laden
2nd= it was Themselves

the truth, ive explained in 1st post link


enjoy these, you wont think of 9\11 the same again
VERY IMPORTANT LINK;
http://www.orbwar.com/ufo-photos-wtc-attack-9-11.htm

some small facts from link
Quote"The object on the left was video taped on 9-11-2001 darting over the world trade center seconds after the second tower was hit."

:)

[hw spartan]

Twin towers hit by UFO?

check this out...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sSpWsEJ4HIs

ive linked this vid above, i never knew it was 5 min before the vent
thats even more freeky??
im not saying it was 5min before, just letting you know.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6SeE1Dt46AA&feature=related

enjoy:cool:

[hw spartan]

Strange things in 911 footage - look closely

1st= listen too reporter?
2nd = try to spot the little silver dots around the plain.

also notice, it WARPS before reaching, keep eye on wings

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=r3AwEz0K-UI&feature=related

enjoy

[hw spartan]

911 - strange footage / mistery white jet etc...


hahaha White jet is what we call it now, haha
i thought if we cant identify it, its classified as UFO?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4pciG8J2I&feature=related

enjoy:cool:

[hw spartan]

Enjoy:)

To the snakes, your time is up, billy the goat.
hahahahahaha:eek:

[crowd control]

911 - strange footage / mistery white jet etc...


Hahaha white jet is what we call it now, haha
i thought if we cant identify it, its classified as ufo?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4pcig8j2i&feature=related

enjoy:cool:


e4b

[helloperator]

But wasn't that footage of the supposed ufo zooming away from the wtc leaving the trail of smoke proved or admittedly a fake?

[dangermouse]

But wasn't that footage of the supposed ufo zooming away from the wtc leaving the trail of smoke proved or admittedly a fake?

yep

[lightgiver]

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnFE-IBK7M

we are all being fooled.IMHO:(

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnFE-IBK7M

"[Propaganda] does not have multiple shadings; it has a positive and a negative; love or hate, right or wrong, truth or lie, never half this way and half that way…"
-- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, p. 183

[mynameis]

But how do you know it's not real it's on video? :D /sarcasm

[lightgiver]

But how do you know it's not real it's on video? :D /sarcasm

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.;)

[hw spartan]

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.;)

At the military level, it was descised the same as option 2 above.
option 1, was the initial plan, but option 2 was part of the deception..


in short, i belive it was a type of "galactic war" in simple terms, without leaning towards biblical theories.
i in fact cant really stress my opinion, without leaning towards the bible conserning 9\11, because of reasons i wish too not get into.
trust me, at higher level of military, and i mean high, they know what im talking about, at the lower level, some where put in to the motion wich leans towards option 2... they fooled EVERYONE.

but like i said in my post.

"next time, you cant hide behind children, next time, the saints wont care"
i said this in response to Mr Bush surrounding himself with inocent HUMAN children, he thought they where after him(UFO'S in short)
to piss off the other side, wich hate evil and the goat.
he read, "my freind billy the goat" you see...you have all been fooled.
and because many aint Christian, they wont understand my meaning of billy the goat.

PS; to the people who think that pointing out SOME false vids.
well, i didnt say all are, and next time, post wich one, instead of talking as if its all of them, even i didnt see them, because it was 1st time i googled for them, and that was yestarday, i just knew there would be footage, trust me, i knew, i also know some are fake....SOME.:)

[lightgiver]

At the military level, it was descised the same as option 2 above.
option 1, was the initial plan, but option 2 was part of the deception..


in short, i belive it was a type of "galactic war" in simple terms, without leaning towards biblical theories.
i in fact cant really stress my opinion, without leaning towards the bible conserning 9\11, because of reasons i wish too not get into.
trust me, at higher level of military, and i mean high, they know what im talking about, at the lower level, some where put in to the motion wich leans towards option 2... they fooled EVERYONE.

but like i said in my post.

"next time, you cant hide behind children, next time, the saints wont care"
i said this in response to Mr Bush surrounding himself with inocent HUMAN children, he thought they where after him(UFO'S in short)
to piss off the other side, wich hate evil and the goat.
he read, "my freind billy the goat" you see...you have all been fooled.
and because many aint Christian, they wont understand my meaning of billy the goat.

PS; to the people who think that pointing out SOME false vids.
well, i didnt say all are, and next time, post wich one, instead of talking as if its all of them, even i didnt see them, because it was 1st time i googled for them, and that was yestarday, i just knew there would be footage, trust me, i knew, i also know some are fake....SOME.:)


Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

John.F.Kennedy;)

[hw spartan]

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

spartan,watch video;)

"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
-- A.J. Liebling, "Do You Belong in Journalism?" The New Yorker, May 14, 1960

:).. ive seen this vid on Alex Jones about 1 and half years ago, it was under, microchiping if i recall.

it still doesnt make my theory wrong.
1= he is part of them(or was,makes no dif) so my theory of they are pushing the option 2, is still correct, in fact, im trying to say also, that they knew years in advance, and set up the whole play for option 2.
lets talk UFO for a sec.
if they didnt hide what im trying to explain, and humans SEE outright that it was Alien attack, then all those years of power, after 9\11 would of been lost,
option 2, is worth shit even if all people belived it, and thats a fact, you all think it was option 2, and you cant do shit about it, thus option 2, is a forced belife, planned years in advance, as much as option 1.
but if they dindt cover it, it would of been a very diffrent world, UFO! shit, ATTACKING! man... they cant affoard that, in non-biblical terms or biblical terms... its a lose both ways, better to make them think,"it was us".

fact=since 9\11, there have been more UFO activity AND even more BATTLES just above us...even to a point of useing "silo's in suburbs"
this is post......
... Secret Missle Silos in Sydney

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

About 2 years back
i was in a very bad situation, family trouble, bit of a domestic at home

one nite ,after argueing for hours with some freinds of mine about 9\11
anyway they left
oh sorry...it was nite about 7ish... i walked to the kitchen
by the time i got to the sink.. i heard a loud noise like a big poping sound
and then... the sound of a very large single jet engine noise.
i ran to the boulcony
and as if it was a movie to be seen in my view, mainly i could see it all the time, until it did a 90 degree turn up wards,, and disapear
it fuken just disapeared..i was waiting for large bang.
lets go back abit...
1= it was a missle... trust me ive seen plenty
2= it was the 100kilo plus range... the flame was long..the diameter of the end bit, was easy half meter.
3= there was a big noise before the scream(this must be the lid opening)
4= while on the balcony, one of my naughbours was in there kitchen window, it was so loud( it was about 1 or 2 subourbes away, maybe even closer)
i was yelling at my naibour to take noitice....OMG.. he didnt even here me, let alone the very loud jet noise... wierd, cause his window was open, as if trying to ignore me.. but why ignore the very loud noise
5= it was travelling as if it was locked on something, that something must of left at last sec, because it was sort of travelling towards the left side of MY building, when it got to a point of,say 100 meters from the left, it did its sharp 90 degree turn upwards, then disappeard.. what ever it was locked on, left very quik
6= i rang the police.... the ladie asked me some very wierd questions
first, she did confirm that they have had over 50 callers already
second, she wasnt listening to my report.
third, she proceded to tell me it was a plane?? was i reporting a UFO? WTF
i was reporting a missle not UFO..weird
forth, i told her ,im ex-military, and very well know about missles and the diffrence between a missle going up..or as she was trying to tell me..."a plane on fire" in her own words.. anyway. when she heard that...she paused, asked for my name and if it was allright to be questioned..(i never was)
then she hung up

now one more thing, ive seen small missles of ships, veicles and small missle stuff
but.. this was Silo...big
in the middle of fucken Canterbury district in Sydney

Also..a fucken 90 degree turn,, seconds before disapearing...so weird

would any one in Sydney renember this????

also...zilch on any news of it...not even in the local paper
wierd as the ladie did say she already got 50 callers,
and i rang her easy 10 min after event

but.... i have put things together..dont ask for that
im just Stateing what happened..thank you
link
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38359

this is what im talking about, theres more to meets the EYE, hhehe

note; on the day it happened, it was only a few who where saying"the jews did it" on the actaull day:eek:, these people where freemasons, told the bullshit story, that they have to do it, part of plan crap, little did they know, there a set up, to misguide everyone into thinking it was option 2
even i has a diffrent theory on the actaull day, non-option 1, in fact my 1st theory isnt in the option above, but things changed.....
note; the story of the silo, happened 1 hour after comeing to my conclusion of 9\11... now thats fucken weird:cool:

[lightgiver]

:).. ive seen this vid on Alex Jones about 1 and half years ago, it was under, microchiping if i recall.

it still doesnt make my theory wrong.
1= he is part of them(or was,makes no dif) so my theory of they are pushing the option 2, is still correct, in fact, im trying to say also, that they knew years in advance, and set up the whole play for option 2.
lets talk UFO for a sec.
if they didnt hide what im trying to explain, and humans SEE outright that it was Alien attack, then all those years of power, after 9\11 would of been lost,
option 2, is worth shit even if all people belived it, and thats a fact, you all think it was option 2, and you cant do shit about it, thus option 2, is a forced belife, planned years in advance, as much as option 1.
but if they dindt cover it, it would of been a very diffrent world, UFO! shit, ATTACKING! man... they cant affoard that, in non-biblical terms or biblical terms... its a lose both ways, better to make them think,"it was us".

fact=since 9\11, there have been more UFO activity AND even more BATTLES just above us...even to a point of useing "silo's in suburbs"
this is post......
... Secret Missle Silos in Sydney

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

About 2 years back
i was in a very bad situation, family trouble, bit of a domestic at home

one nite ,after argueing for hours with some freinds of mine about 9\11
anyway they left
oh sorry...it was nite about 7ish... i walked to the kitchen
by the time i got to the sink.. i heard a loud noise like a big poping sound
and then... the sound of a very large single jet engine noise.
i ran to the boulcony
and as if it was a movie to be seen in my view, mainly i could see it all the time, until it did a 90 degree turn up wards,, and disapear
it fuken just disapeared..i was waiting for large bang.
lets go back abit...
1= it was a missle... trust me ive seen plenty
2= it was the 100kilo plus range... the flame was long..the diameter of the end bit, was easy half meter.
3= there was a big noise before the scream(this must be the lid opening)
4= while on the balcony, one of my naughbours was in there kitchen window, it was so loud( it was about 1 or 2 subourbes away, maybe even closer)
i was yelling at my naibour to take noitice....OMG.. he didnt even here me, let alone the very loud jet noise... wierd, cause his window was open, as if trying to ignore me.. but why ignore the very loud noise
5= it was travelling as if it was locked on something, that something must of left at last sec, because it was sort of travelling towards the left side of MY building, when it got to a point of,say 100 meters from the left, it did its sharp 90 degree turn upwards, then disappeard.. what ever it was locked on, left very quik
6= i rang the police.... the ladie asked me some very wierd questions
first, she did confirm that they have had over 50 callers already
second, she wasnt listening to my report.
third, she proceded to tell me it was a plane?? was i reporting a UFO? WTF
i was reporting a missle not UFO..weird
forth, i told her ,im ex-military, and very well know about missles and the diffrence between a missle going up..or as she was trying to tell me..."a plane on fire" in her own words.. anyway. when she heard that...she paused, asked for my name and if it was allright to be questioned..(i never was)
then she hung up

now one more thing, ive seen small missles of ships, veicles and small missle stuff
but.. this was Silo...big
in the middle of fucken Canterbury district in Sydney

Also..a fucken 90 degree turn,, seconds before disapearing...so weird

would any one in Sydney renember this????

also...zilch on any news of it...not even in the local paper
wierd as the ladie did say she already got 50 callers,
and i rang her easy 10 min after event

but.... i have put things together..dont ask for that
im just Stateing what happened..thank you
link
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38359

this is what im talking about, theres more to meets the EYE, hhehe

note; on the day it happened, it was only a few who where saying"the jews did it" on the actaull day:eek:, these people where freemasons, told the bullshit story, that they have to do it, part of plan crap, little did they know, there a set up, to misguide everyone into thinking it was option 2
even i has a diffrent theory on the actaull day, non-option 1, in fact my 1st theory isnt in the option above, but things changed.....
note; the story of the silo, happened 1 hour after comeing to my conclusion of 9\11... now thats fucken weird:cool:

Unless 911 is re opened and re investigated,we will never get the real truth unless a person with guts in the elites circle,comes forward with some evidence that is being held back and expose this 911 lie for what it is,but i feel its gonna be a while yet,who knows whats coming.

we can blab all day which helps,but i do not think its gonna bring the real perpetrators of 911 to justice,you need evidence and facts and until some real nail in the coffin info comes along we are going to be debating this forever:rolleyes:but we must never give up the fight;)

just a pity Aaron russo is not with us any more:(

[hw spartan]

Unless 911 is re opened and re investigated,we will never get the real truth unless a person with guts in the elites circle,comes forward with some evidence that is being held back and expose this 911 lie for what it is,but i feel its gonna be a while yet,who knows whats coming.

we can blab all day which helps,but i do not think its gonna bring the real perpetrators of 911 to justice,you need evidence and facts and until some real nail in the coffin info comes along we are going to be debating this forever:rolleyes:but we must never give up the fight;)

just a pity Aaron russo is not with us any more:(

yes you are very correct.

Do you have any info on the "silo" issue?

PS; is Mr Russo gone? oh my, was it any weird circumstances? or natraul?
:cool:

[hw spartan]

haha i like how the building with the antenea got hit 1st.
so the other UFO's can come in and do the other jobs around the place.
these antenae are ALIEN, they say its for this or that, so why doest ALL scyscrapers have em.
in every city, in every country, there is 1 building that has THAT same antenae
so.... you people still think all this was HUMAN.
ok...fair enoufgh, looks like it worked, they got every one saying, bin laden or themselves did it.......they love it.
people like me, are very few, if any...... and i dont care, i see ALIENS in this
check my thread" Spartans talk on 9\11"
it was a bloody star wars fight, in front of us.

"it was a attack on the leaders of earth, who use money for there slaves, so they hit it, and needed to hit the antena 1st, to throw off all silo locks, they wernt expecting(someone) to hit it 1st, the ones that knew, hid underground"


hide underground from a big mafia group, given the name terroist with royalties, with a Army of USA behind you, and they still hid, come on people, the reps got attacked, simple, and they know it was just a warning.
see Alex Collier on the Grays deadline to the Slave masters.....the deadline was 2001 :eek:

[hw spartan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightgiver
So what does that provethe towers where not made of the same material as that wall depicted on video and it was a fighter jet that hit the solid concrete reinforced to protect nuclear materials wall not a aluminium passenger air liner that dissolved into a tower of steel and lightweight concrete.

lightgiver, how are you

like i say..... check Alex Colliers quote" the Humanoids gave the reptilians a deadline, it was 2001"
it was a warning attack, wich the reptilians laufhed at there faces, the day after, not on the day.
hahahaha
like little lost children, on the day of action, they hid, on the day after, when they relised it was only a warning, they had a fucken jubilee the following year, to mock the other warriors, non-reptilian.
ever since 9\11, the devil is like a old man, hes time is short...and so is ours.
hey....mainstream people still think bin laden did it...... how can we explain ourselves to humans, if they cant see us in the air, but, its not about war, its about the warning, they laufghhed at it, the same way they got thrown here.
the orion guys hate the warning, and billy the goat gave orders for chaos in the soicial respect
Sex the drug
Love the weapon
and hell your out come

We arent here to give you peace, you had many years of warnings....9\11 was a test to the Christians, in the light of the discussions in heaven(univers)
only a few people rejoiced, and knew who hit who.
those names are in the book

ok done, the next step is not a warning,,,, and there hiding and building tunnels and shit..
..they knew the warning for many years, they planned to make it seem other wise.

[mynameis]

Heh. I'd really want to believe it was aliens sending a message, therefore we'd at least have something corporeal to deal with instead of NPT.

[hw spartan]

Heh. I'd really want to believe it was aliens sending a message, therefore we'd at least have something corporeal to deal with instead of NPT.

if you have read the link on 1st post, it was neither plain or missle.
but i forgot about a certain missle that(??????) have, and thus now i understand the way of attack and counter fools play attack, at the same time.

genious the people who made you think option 2.

very very smart....who said the reptilians are stupid?

:eek:

[hw spartan]

Some Vids

NOTE;i do not claim that the vids are real or fake, i will in future posts, for now im going by quik looks.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=VTez2_7Jfbw

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y4b1yGQcBFM

just for you guys
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=labRuudOYRM

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fKrEgT2UdLY

:)

[hw spartan]

UFO During 9-11 Accelerates to 2727mph in a Split Second

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuOIf95XcA

Spartan note; before you say that the shadow is from a bird.....since when do birds cast 4 to 5 story shadows.:eek:

[hw spartan]

UFO DRACO -WORLD EXCLUSIVE - 9/11 THE TRUTH VIDEO 1°

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=LENZAcRWpz4

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=r1HFkgxMtFc&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab6nuh1rRWU&feature=related
start spreading the lube, were coming today hahaha

:cool:

[hw spartan]

UFO at the Twin Towers on 9-11

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=CZnYHTN8Qmg

and this is very nice?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=VTez2_7Jfbw

:cool:

[hw spartan]

F..k the Draco's hooah!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=LHxauVdGvmM

:cool:

Death to the Draco's, death to the NWO.
death to the goat.:cool:

[hw spartan]

UFO investigation:Out of the blue

part 1 missing

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=UPYquMOb3TY

part 3 missing

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j29p49_DoT0&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=I2HQU-n86wY&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFHaQ2mWJg&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vnR1lUDZPyo&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yz2zuJO2B0&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gPndRaHwqDE&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=w7ZVLP0Ui_Q&feature=related

enjoy, oh part 11 is nothing, just sub titles

i added these to show you how vunrable the human military is, that does not mean the Draco's are.

[hw spartan]

This is real, for those that have a good ear.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=oda2qm0We8E


so, please , spare me the why the towers got hit, again read the 1st post's link.:)

ps; this back up system is actaully a black box that all radio stations have, ask Alex Jones

[hw spartan]

look at my tv, what is it, a bird?

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=L5fkkfbQYy0

:cool:

[hw spartan]

9/11 WORLD EXCLUSIVE-THE ALIEN MATRIX

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mtEPJ_00OdU


nice work by MadMod72 :cool:

[hw spartan]

WORLD EXCLUSIVE - 9/11 THE TRUTH VIDEO 1° PREMIERE

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_OcI2jYRAx8

thats it for now, i got to watch them myself.....:)

[hw spartan]

enjoy

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sakEr9FVN0o

other non 9\11 for refrence
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5AgOfqNAQ&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=bDBvEfYBdiA&feature=related

enjoy:cool:

[hw spartan]

Here is a nice set of 3 vids.

note; my belife is the man talking at the later part, is a reptilian that wanted to go back, in a way.
i do belive they killed his son,and him.
but only because you cant really leave, and he MAYBE he wasnt human, to even have a chance at "going back to God" sort of way.

Wars in space do exist.
thus a bit of facts to proove my theory on 9\11

enjoy
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6tqwAN5Kz44

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZhfLTf25s&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=b6YUk2MAOu4&feature=related

:cool:

[hw spartan]

Night Vision Gogles..is the trik ;)
Many battles in the Sky, why? 9\11 was a warning.

Radio link;
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=f-4dKFcMdZY

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sgvjdqiPxuM&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5iytmuVTgw8&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gaVdhL0-Hd8&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Gml_fLXKcCA&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKIR1PD6G4&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=r3tTcczZDx8&feature=related

ok it got abit off thread, but, hey, i want night vision.:)

[hw spartan]

This is sort of how it is.....hooooah!!!!!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=k39AooCgxQE

:cool:

[hw spartan]

UFO Battles!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TUsnmwscNJw

notice in one of the paintings at start, two towers, with a explosion on the one tower, did evil build these two long ago, and yet again, a 9\11 in the past???? weird

:cool:

[hw spartan]

"Battle Of L.A.", 1942 (UFO over Los Angeles)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OUL9qsoipFs

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=yP185xsDJ4s&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmbGMWlL7w&feature=related

haha :)

[hw spartan]

Now lets talk Demons...
..:eek:

UFO WORLD EXCLUSIVE

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xpmwnCVp4-A

:cool:

[hw spartan]

What type of demons where atacked?

im not going to start posting reptile vids, but these two are to
prove threads point.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-8bgPRnKY


this vid scares me, Stephanopoulos is sort of respected in Greek politics, sort of....
..the Traitor, hes one of them.... prooves to me, that in Greece they are set in also....mmmm:cool:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QNtoEEGmcN8&feature=related

so..... dont get all mooshy about the 9\11 deaths, not all where human.
Also; even the humans ther where part of them, even the cleaners.

anyway...enjoy...next is weopons:cool:

[mynameis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOv73w_3k0I

[hw spartan]

WTC UFO Sighting Prior to the 9-11 Incident (ENHANCED)

ok 1 more.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xwgPRnol5yg

:)

[hw spartan]

Great laser from the sky.

Laser Targeting UAV Drone Attack on WTC 9/11 SloMo Closeup

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=19lofrMsbZA

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb0TEYBCnkw&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=OrY2OrL6szw&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1yA_sf-exvA&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S06h6pDZNAE&feature=related

enjoy...and nice work with vids guys;)

:cool:

[hw spartan]

Great laser from the sky 2.

Aim...fire!!!

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=t57u2d-E2cI

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=60h0lD2TuF8

:cool:

these are Laser guided, note in my post ,i explain the Great laser hit from above dureing the colapse, in the vids its the case of both projectile and non projectile laser weopons...... still looking:cool:

[hw spartan]

They are planning to fool you again.

Project Bluebeam is the same action as the one im describing in this thread on 9\11.
meaning
They did not want you to see the reall "Alien" attack on 9\11.
so bluebeam is same, so when the "Aliens" attack at larger scales,
everyone will see real "Alien" war\battles in these times, only to say, "oh its fake, its Bluebeam":eek:
carefull..... its time to belive your eyes, when they are trying to fool your mind, and vice versa.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=g3KCCX-zqyg

:cool:

[hw spartan]

Demons you say Spartan.
make up your mind, demons or Aliens or reptilians....
....:eek:....... you said it, not me:)

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=wmTbe5avjAw

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SyNTiAwo6Z4

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4-pfgoDKRv0

:cool:

[hw spartan]

But wasn't that footage of the supposed ufo zooming away from the wtc leaving the trail of smoke proved or admittedly a fake?

yep

nope.... never was, in fact it was prooven real by the Japs.
WTC UFO Sighting Prior to the 9-11 Incident (ENHANCED)

ok 1 more.


WTC UFO Sighting Prior to the 9-11 Incident (ENHANCED)

[helloperator]

Yo spartan...you should put scary music over those slow mo eyelid shots...maybe some chains rattling in a dungeon somewhere too and a creaking door. It'd be wicked maaaan!

[hw spartan]

Yo spartan...you should put scary music over those slow mo eyelid shots...maybe some chains rattling in a dungeon somewhere too and a creaking door. It'd be wicked maaaan!

haha i wish i knew how to make vids... mine would be SHOKING...
but i know what you mean, some are abit sus, but some are very weird.:)

[lightgiver]

I will look at your vids spartan,just give me time;)i am a bit vidded out at the moment.

[hw spartan]

I will look at your vids spartan,just give me time;)i am a bit vidded out at the moment.

all good, some are a bit weird, im going to add more and more, but il trying not to over do it, but its so damn addictive searching things, i know i know evil in my face, and i want to search it, instead of running, but hey
it makes it more interesting.
i must stress that not all vids are real, just wich ones and why is a whole lot of diffrent potatoes...so i try not to post the ones wich are clearly fake...but like i said, not all are fake... wich in its self is wierd.


PS; somewhere i quoted Alex Collier on a deadline between the Aliens, i stated 2001, but really its 2003, so im searching for links, between 1999(dont ask) and 2003, after 2003 its a whole new ball game.

but it is freaky, the vids that is.

Anyone reading this, note; if you do find real or uncertain vids (sticking to this points veiw of the thread) feel free to post, even if you dont know, i might:)

Humans, get ready :cool:

[hw spartan]

Well did you know about...
Hurricane Erin, September 11, 2001
link
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/hpics/010911_1867.jpeg

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/pics/erin_track_WI.gif

other link
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin1.html

now tell me, the big mother ship, with the fighters, could of easerly followed the Erin's path, ive heard many UFO stories of them hideing in clouds, and my belife,(as in 1st post link) that a small ufo force, used the Erin' hurican as a entry surprize:eek:
:)

[mynameis]

Well did you know about...
Hurricane Erin, September 11, 2001
link
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/hpics/010911_1867.jpeg

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/pics/erin_track_WI.gif

other link
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/erin/erin1.html

now tell me, the big mother ship, with the fighters, could of easerly followed the Erin's path, ive heard many UFO stories of them hideing in clouds, and my belife,(as in 1st post link) that a small ufo force, used the Erin' hurican as a entry surprize:eek:
:)



Day 229, Aug. 17, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=229

Day 254, Sep. 11, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=254


URL: http:// god like productions dot com/forum1/message597744/pg2orum1/message597744/pg2

Why fake her magnometer data if she were truthful?

[deckard]

Amazing, I never knew about this, how come they didnt mention it?

[hw spartan]

Day 229, Aug. 17, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=229

Day 254, Sep. 11, 2001.
http://magnet.gi.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/display_plot.cgi?site=FtYukon&year=2001&doy=254


URL: http:// god like productions dot com/forum1/message597744/pg2orum1/message597744/pg2

Why fake her magnometer data if she were truthful?
Nice observation... i dont know, it just adds to my theory, weird.

Amazing, I never knew about this, how come they didnt mention it?
So true, i only found out yestarday, its a funny Hurican that one :cool:

[hw spartan]

Dustification , great laser from sky.

i once said, that the colapse, was a seprate weopon than the first 2 hits, the top hit as i mentioned in the 1st posts link, is very analised in this vid.

mmmmmm funny, how some know.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=knaEhi8evhU&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=0

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ewzd7el2Bmw&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=1

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MQAvLHSfuZQ&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=2

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6oLNeboGuLE&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=3

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ht4uCgvOyrE&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=4

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAH4CbgIG0&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=5

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdz5cKVNMo&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=6

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygqQe0dwOc&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=7

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=njXQuxlT4pY&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=8

bonus
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TWd1tAQ3e28&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=9

enjoy, some very diffrent views than mine, but, it all links ;)

[crowd control]

haha i wish i knew how to make vids... mine would be SHOKING...


Making videos is piss easy, download sony vegas for free off a torrent site, it's a good programme, very user friendly, great tools on it. Need any help along the way, there's plenty of tutorials on youtube etc or message me

It's great fun.

[hw spartan]

Making videos is piss easy, download sony vegas for free off a torrent site, it's a good programme, very user friendly, great tools on it. Need any help along the way, there's plenty of tutorials on youtube etc or message me

It's great fun.

oh, damn, thanks mate, im going to start, i got a bit of time on my hands latly, like 4 months till back to work, (long story)
but, yeh, thanks, and i will pm you and you will be 1st to see the work...
..mmmmmm nice:)

[hw spartan]

9\11 UFO crash'n'burn at pennsylvania.

take a look at there pics for a sec, and think, not plain as obvious that it wasnt, so what was it, lets examine...
..
this is the alledged Smoke blast from that area
http://www.explosive911analysis.com/931.jpg
so, because its aleged ,im not going to comment on this pic....lets continue...
..
http://www.philipcoppens.com/911_09.jpg
lets move closer
..
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/911/images/00037r.jpg
lets say that this photo, was taken after the "guys in yellow" left
..WTH ,what guys in yellow?
..
http://www.autolinkmn.com/PennsylvaniaCrashSite.jpg
this photo, shows the very 1st people to go to the area.
why?
wheres the cops,or fire brigade, or ambulance.... why, if they did it them selves, would they risk this move, if it where a staged act, a staged act would be like this.... at first
...
http://www.historycommons.org/events-images/b263_pentagon_triage_2050081722-12666.jpg
or this
http://www.temple.edu/cenfad/strategic-visions/SV5-1-04/pentagon_rescue_workers_9-15-01.jpg
when dealing in rescue
NOT THIS, wich looks like Area51 style people clearing a area, like this.
http://blog.kievukraine.info/uploaded_images/3559-770276.jpg
http://www.autolinkmn.com/PennsylvaniaCrashSite.jpg

so why would they call in 1st a contaminate control in, and dont say its the body parts serch, ....wheres the dogs, the ambo's or other, you see folks, it was one of there fighter UFO, that got cocky, and shot down, while most of there own craft, stayed away.... most of battle was happening in Hurican Erin, away from all eyes, Pennsylvania, the the small battle that tryed to stop the hit on Pentagon. in falure.

any ways i got to got do a massive.....
http://refernet.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/storm_trooper_1.jpg

dont go no where, i got more:cool:

[hw spartan]

Wars in Space.

chek this vid out.

motherships and the works....
....

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4OT9yd7JAlw

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4OT9yd7JAlw


was some one saying, ufo wars...mmmmm

:rolleyes:

ps; this video is not avalable is BS ,heres the link, same link mind you, but when we go back to original, its still there, i think this sites been hacked, big time.
so ive added the link.

[hw spartan]

UFO night vision wars.

more Star wars.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xSUHaHctc2E&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=bB_Tr1adPOM&feature=related

:)

[hw spartan]

Some people did try, and guess what.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IrO8055LQGs&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=50R7ARMuxTI&feature=related

and
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOIJ4QD-EA&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUjg28LvfM&feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-msnAQ_aY&feature=related

more night vision
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3iqoSHtLTuI

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=U2gbPRqz37c

:)

[mynameis]

Wouldn't it be wiser to use a greater force of destruction? Why would beings with unknown power want to remain hidden or benevolent?

[hw spartan]

Spartan talks on 9\11.

Well, in the posts i have shown you that...
1, there is for certain a UFO war, even on earth and outer rims of earth, plus off earth if you follow those stories, all FACT with proof.
2, Evil rules the earth, not good, Evil trys to hide or cover up ANYTHING regarding ANYTHING. plus, biblical writtings and Ickes Reptiles, and so many more, is cancer cured, is water abundance, is poverty gone overnight, is death a past human delema? haha evil rules and subject threw buildings like the twin towers, where nearly most of the people in there are "devils advocates" like all things on earth.
3, 1 vid showing UFO's is enoufgh, BUT, its like a epidemic of UFO'S around 9\11, so there definatly WAS a UFO presents around the towers, wich was good and wich wasevil, is a matter of tastes.... simply, the elite where hit, by UFO'S(or good side) the UFO stuff ever since 9\11 has skyrocketed.
4, we know, and i know, "it wasnt Bin laden"
5, if you think they did it to them selves, i have a simple remark to that."if they did this to themselves, why fuck up, so many things, example; the plane pieces they grabed to fool people at the pentagone, is clearly a rush job, because they did not need to grab any wrong plain peices,as they clearly did, if it was planned, you wouldnt have seen or found, the wrong peices,
this mistake ALONE prooves my theory, they where hit, fast and right, they paniked, and grabed the wrong peices or didnt have the time to grab the right peices....stop, il say that again... "didnt have the time"
like they where attacked and tryinfg to mislead people into thinking it was a plain...well really..."didnt have the time?" think about it.
6, the 2 tower desing in the illuminati, is NOT a new thing, in fact, God(or UFO's good side) have hit twin towers, throu out mans history, UFO wars where fought in past, guess what, there where two towers involved even then.

anyway, i not really in the typing mood right now....
:cool:

[hw spartan]

Wouldn't it be wiser to use a greater force of destruction? Why would beings with unknown power want to remain hidden or benevolent?

More power...no... it was a warning... next time you will see full power, also, its not like they needed there whole arsenal for 9\11 day of events.

unkown power???? i dont get you, you dont know what a laser is, go back few posts, and see that it was not unkown or unexplained...
soon people will say "yeh they did it to them selves, but used ALIEN technology for it" hahaha soon.

i really dont know what you mean by benevolent?
i know what the word means...but can you be more specific?
i really want to know?:cool:

[deckard]

i really dont know what you mean by benevolent?
i know what the word means...but can you be more specific?
i really want to know?:cool:

Hope this helps.

Definition Benevolent
Thesaurus: Benevolence
Description and Meaning: Benevolence
Benevolent (Be*nev"o*lent) (?), a.
[L. benevolens, -entis; bene well (adv. of bonus good) + volens, p. pr. of volo I will, I wish. See Bounty, and Voluntary.]

Having a disposition to do good; possessing or manifesting love to mankind, and a desire to promote their prosperity and happiness; disposed to give to good objects; kind; charitable. -- Be*nev"o*lent*ly, adv.

Synonyms -- Benevolent, Beneficent. Etymologically considered, benevolent implies wishing well to others, and beneficent, doing well. But by degrees the word benevolent has been widened to include not only feelings, but actions; thus, we speak of benevolent operations, benevolent labors for the public good, benevolent societies. In like manner, beneficent is now often applied to feelings; thus, we speak of the beneficent intentions of a donor. This extension of the terms enables us to mark nicer shades of meaning. Thus, the phrase "benevolent labors" turns attention to the source of these labors, viz., benevolent feeling; while beneficent would simply mark them as productive of good. So, "beneficent intentions" point to the feelings of the donor as bent upon some specific good act; while "benevolent intentions" would only denote a general wish and design to do good.

[hw spartan]

......

Thanks Deckard....mmm
well then, i could say that the Aliens im talking about, are Benevolent the least, meaning, i know them more Holy than benevolent.
i think the word "benevolent" is used to describe the ALIENS that are really "holy" but those who use that tag, are actaully, against them.
its like been Jesus himself, only to be called buhda... its a insult really.
sure they are both benevolent, but 1 is really holy in authoritarian respect.
i wounder what the "holy" et's think, of them been called "benevolent"
well, im angry, trust me.. its not good calling them "benevolent" when they are very much more than that.
:cool:

[deckard]

I doubt they are benevolent, if they were they would have come down and disarmed all the nuclear and biological weapons from us.

[hw spartan]

I doubt they are benevolent, if they were they would have come down and disarmed all the nuclear and biological weapons from us.

Deckard, the rulers of the earth, aint all human, many are mixed (check seed of man, in bible)
then, they where cast down....you know the drill.
then the JC story, and the second comeing.
thats right, the second comeing, we, sorry, i cant answer that question, with out quoting God or the bible,...but.....
you have prooven my quote in the above post.
a benevolent Alien WOULD get involved at the 1st sign, like rest of universe...but we cant forget the bible, they where cast here....not destroyed, but cast here.
so the answer to your question would be, we are on a thin line between mans agenda and Gods.
so to answer this, we cant think man, but God, my quik answer, would be, its Gods agenda, and the time is now, not near, but now.
And in that saying, the Aliens are "holy" not benevolent.
benevolent aliens would acts acordingly to a situation imidiatly, while "holy" aliens would waits or attack with messages, and acts acordingly to right wrong.
the heavens follow Jesus ways, more than say a zues figure, where action is quik, but, in the true Gods way, including his son, we will get attacks at there will and agenda. mainly speaking of ARMAGEDON (wich is earth)
the pieces are in position, the attacks from ancient times, and 9\11 just another piece to the very big puzzle, wich can only be properly told, by people who know about the Alien\demon conection
wich that initself, is a no no by Christians.
basically.... its very much gut instink... and a few trips to ship, walllah!!
Star Wars, in our faces:cool:

now i need a beer...:D

[hw spartan]

I doubt they are benevolent, if they were they would have come down and disarmed all the nuclear and biological weapons from us.

Also... to answer this question, is simple
"Devil is holding man ransom"

get my drift

if they do more than a 9\11 attack, or if they took it further than just a days attack, we would not be here now.
aparantly, the nukes we have are aimed at the people God is trying to save, meaning, if they get closer in the attacks or if they start the main attack...
..the devil will nuke ALL of the humans.

its in the bible...as a threat.:cool:

[mynameis]

Sorry, but a laser is a pea shooter at the power levels you are talking.

[hw spartan]

Sorry, but a laser is a pea shooter at the power levels you are talking.

Depends on the lser, not all lasers are the same, the pentagon was laser, 2 in facts.
the twin towers, was UFO'S going threw them, like a missle, and comeing out other end, all in split sec.
the two laser hits on top, wich turned every thing to dust as it was colapsing, is again a diffrent laser than the one that hit the pentagon.
2 types of laser, and two UFO ram attacks into the towers, this is why some get confused and cant fully agree if it was plain or missle. technically, they are both right, but it was a UFO acting as a missle, chek the vids.
Also, i only prooved the earth equivelent of such lasers, did you see the clip, of the UFO useing a light sorce to desrtoy a earth missle(chek vids)..well, the laser used here was not on full power, it took about 5 shots to destroy it?????
if the UFO wanted, it could of taken 1 shot.BUT, they knew they where been watched, and where showing of really.:cool:

[deckard]

Depends on the lser, not all lasers are the same, the pentagon was laser, 2 in facts.
the twin towers, was UFO'S going threw them, like a missle, and comeing out other end, all in split sec.
the two laser hits on top, wich turned every thing to dust as it was colapsing, is again a diffrent laser than the one that hit the pentagon.
2 types of laser, and two UFO ram attacks into the towers, this is why some get confused and cant fully agree if it was plain or missle. technically, they are both right, but it was a UFO acting as a missle, chek the vids.
Also, i only prooved the earth equivelent of such lasers, did you see the clip, of the UFO useing a light sorce to desrtoy a earth missle(chek vids)..well, the laser used here was not on full power, it took about 5 shots to destroy it?????
if the UFO wanted, it could of taken 1 shot.BUT, they knew they where been watched, and where showing of really.:cool:

You could be right spartan, even demolition experts have said the towers couldnt have fallen that fast using even convebtional demolition techniques that we know of.

Time it took the towers to fall each, around ten to eleven seconds each.

Thats like ten storys a second.

[hw spartan]

You could be right spartan, even demolition experts have said the towers couldnt have fallen that fast using even convebtional demolition techniques that we know of.

Time it took the towers to fall each, around ten to eleven seconds each.

Thats like ten storys a second.

So true, it looked like disinigration than demolition:cool:

[deckard]

So true, it looked like disinigration than demolition:cool:

Thats what I thought when watching it live, these buildings arent just collapsing, their turning into dust.

[mynameis]

Thats what I thought when watching it live, these buildings arent just collapsing, their turning into dust.

Disintegration requires there be nothing left. The flakiness could also just be the concrete being pulverized by the upper weight of the building, if you believe the pancake scenario. Either way, the core supports were compromised from the inside out. A speeding missile or projectile would be unable to accomplish this on a straight trajectory to detach the necessary number of core columns and complete the collapse. Hence, the percentage of destruction caused to the number of core supports via a wide area brought the building down. How does a laser i.e. missile destroy the number of necessary core supports?

[deckard]

Disintegration requires there be nothing left. The flakiness could also just be the concrete being pulverized by the upper weight of the building, if you believe the pancake scenario. Either way, the core supports were compromised from the inside out. A speeding missile or projectile would be unable to accomplish this on a straight trajectory to detach the necessary number of core columns and complete the collapse. Hence, the percentage of destruction caused to the number of core supports via a wide area brought the building down. How does a laser i.e. missile destroy the number of necessary core supports?

The fall was just too fast for the pancake story to be true, these floors werent just falling, they were more like mostly vanishing.

The discinergration was never meant to be complete of course, that would have been impossible to explain to the public, but most of these floors were turned to little more than powder.

[mynameis]

The fall was just too fast for the pancake story to be true, these floors werent just falling, they were more like mostly vanishing.

The discinergration was never meant to be complete of course, that would have been impossible to explain to the public, but most of these floors were turned to little more than powder.

A part of the outer wall missing would be proof of said disintegration cast over a wide area. I don't see this in any of the videos.

[deckard]

A part of the outer wall missing would be proof of said disintegration cast over a wide area. I don't see this in any of the videos.

I think alot of the outer wall discinigrated, not all of it, but probably 90% of it at least.
What about all the glass? Where did that go?

[hw spartan]

Disintegration requires there be nothing left. The flakiness could also just be the concrete being pulverized by the upper weight of the building, if you believe the pancake scenario. Either way, the core supports were compromised from the inside out. A speeding missile or projectile would be unable to accomplish this on a straight trajectory to detach the necessary number of core columns and complete the collapse. Hence, the percentage of destruction caused to the number of core supports via a wide area brought the building down. How does a laser i.e. missile destroy the number of necessary core supports?

lol...did you read my 1st post?
apart from the hits on tower, wich i state arnt laser, the top hits are laser....
top hits?
yup, like in the movie "indipendence day" top hits
those where very big lasers, invisable and power full
the petagon where invisable, at diffrent laser.:cool:

[mynameis]

lol...did you read my 1st post?
apart from the hits on tower, wich i state arnt laser, the top hits are laser....
top hits?
yup, like in the movie "indipendence day" top hits
those where very big lasers, invisable and power full
the petagon where invisable, at diffrent laser.:cool:

The towers don't collapse from the roof down...?

:confused:

[hw spartan]

A part of the outer wall missing would be proof of said disintegration cast over a wide area. I don't see this in any of the videos.
also. dust, do you know how much steel was involved, it all turned to dust....STEEL?
i suggest you look closerly, remember its a outerskeleton, wich makes it even more weird, how it turned to DUST.

I think alot of the outer wall discinigrated, not all of it, but probably 90% of it at least.
What about all the glass? Where did that go?
some of the outer did stand, very little, and that little bit, was the only colapsed steel frames that didnt, turn to dust...
...for Gods sake, the dust over took more areas, than a normal demolition colapse, it wasnt normal, lets not bring up the radioactivity, that in its self is a whole diffrent ball game.:cool:

[hw spartan]

The towers don't collapse from the roof down...?

:confused:

i think your not looking carefully.:rolleyes:
if you look, it was a hit on top, that splits the buildinds on top,
oh wait, i know now, you think the top floors turned everything to dust.
and yet, you didnt see where the top was hit 1st.
look again.:cool:

[hw spartan]

Dustification , great laser from sky.

i once said, that the colapse, was a seprate weopon than the first 2 hits, the top hit as i mentioned in the 1st posts link, is very analised in this vid.

mmmmmm funny, how some know.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=knaEhi8evhU&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=0

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ewzd7el2Bmw&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=1

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MQAvLHSfuZQ&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=2

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6oLNeboGuLE&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=3

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ht4uCgvOyrE&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=4

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAH4CbgIG0&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=5

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdz5cKVNMo&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=6

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygqQe0dwOc&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=7

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=njXQuxlT4pY&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=8

bonus
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TWd1tAQ3e28&feature=PlayList&p=3ADE35A24ED8D727&index=9

enjoy, some very diffrent views than mine, but, it all links ;)

here:cool:

[mynameis]

here:cool:

I'm sorry, you can hate me. I am am sort of busy at times, could you point to one video with a time mark? Pretty please?

[deckard]

also. dust, do you know how much steel was involved, it all turned to dust....STEEL?
i suggest you look closerly, remember its a outerskeleton, wich makes it even more weird, how it turned to DUST.


some of the outer did stand, very little, and that little bit, was the only colapsed steel frames that didnt, turn to dust...
...for Gods sake, the dust over took more areas, than a normal demolition colapse, it wasnt normal, lets not bring up the radioactivity, that in its self is a whole diffrent ball game.:cool:

Exactly the dust was pretty much what most of the two towers turned into.

[mynameis]

Exactly the dust was pretty much what most of the two towers turned into.

Steel turned into dust.....
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4431/dust1gg2.jpg
http://projects.nfstc.org/trace/docs/Trace%20Presentations%20CD-2/Petraco.pdf

Not exactly....of course this is gov sponsored, but evidence shows lots of steel, dust, concrete, and other fragments...this doesn't disprove what I'm asking about though.

[deckard]

Do you really believe that?
There would have been alot more than that heaped up, and scattered around where the buildings fell, if this was true.