2012 Wrong Date!

[thoth]

After some debating to myself, I started to think that maybe 2012 is a bogus day or just the start of a cycle, not necessarily the end. I think that this maybe true because the Gregorian calendar fucked up the months. September=Septo=7, October=Octo=8, November=Nove=9, December=Deci=10. But as we know, those months are for 9,10,11,12. August and July were added from Augustus and Julius Ceaser. I think that something funny is going on. More manipulation perhaps? I know the change is coming, but exactly, I am not so certain. Ideas?

[21_12_2012]

After some debating to myself, I started to think that maybe 2012 is a bogus day or just the start of a cycle, not necessarily the end. I think that this maybe true because the Gregorian calendar fucked up the months. September=Septo=7, October=Octo=8, November=Nove=9, December=Deci=10. But as we know, those months are for 9,10,11,12. August and July were added from Augustus and Julius Ceaser. I think that something funny is going on. More manipulation perhaps? I know the change is coming, but exactly, I am not so certain. Ideas?

The subject is so massive, it would probably be debated on this website until 2012 actually arrives!

I have looked into this for a couple of years now, and, well, basically the dimensional shift will occur at 11.11am on 21-12-2012.

Ascension time !

There are many websites about 2012, some good, some not-so-good, but basically, the date is the same.

http://www.december212012.com/
Mel Gibson has reportedly recently wanted to aquire this website.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/EarthSeasons.html
This website pinpoints (to the minute) the exact time of the equinox to 11.11 as well.

http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/link.htm
This website is my favourite, there is so much information on here it is mindblowing.

But basically, the answer always comes back to:- 21-12-2012

Several people have come up with 2011 (sometime in october i believe), but, to me that does not resonate (but i would appreciate any feedback regarding this)

2012 has always 'felt' right to me as being the end of this 'dimension' (or the matrix so to speak...ascension time in other words)

But, like i say, this debate could go on until 2012 ! With minds blowing apart in the process !

Also, in my opinion, the amount of people now seeing the numbers 11.11 on clocks (myself included for years now), is directly related to this pinpointed time of 11.11 am on 21-12-2012.....a reminder 'from the matrix' that the awakened ones will be seeing more and more as time ticks closer !

Isn't time flying by the way ! haha

[thoth]

There is a movie out there called 11:11.

[21_12_2012]

There is a movie out there called 11:11.

Is there? Is it on google or anything?
Have you seen it?

[harpalchemist]

There is not a specific date,it is a process.It is a garage door that takes a while to open,and some can slip under before others if they are "agile" enough.All this talk of an exact date takes away power from ourselves if we are under the illusion it is going to happen whether we want it to or not.It is the opportunity we have been waiting for but need to work at it.Imagine in 10 years time you find out that it could have happened if more did something.Do you think just learning of a date on a calendar is your work done.Trust me,David is a leading light to some of us,but I for one do not want to leave it up to him to find out the truth for me,that is not he point.It doesn't matter what the reality of our situation is,it is the waking up and collecting of knowledge that is the point.I know David put into words what I already knew,and since then the real process has begun.You are your only chance.Or you get to do it again.Any questions on sources,material is welcome.

[harpalchemist]

Actually,while I think of it,has anyone got any accounts of the veil dropping they would like to share.We all know David's one,there is many,many more.

[21_12_2012]

There is not a specific date,it is a process.It is a garage door that takes a while to open,and some can slip under before others if they are "agile" enough.All this talk of an exact date takes away power from ourselves if we are under the illusion it is going to happen whether we want it to or not.It is the opportunity we have been waiting for but need to work at it.Imagine in 10 years time you find out that it could have happened if more did something.Do you think just learning of a date on a calendar is your work done.Trust me,David is a leading light to some of us,but I for one do not want to leave it up to him to find out the truth for me,that is not he point.It doesn't matter what the reality of our situation is,it is the waking up and collecting of knowledge that is the point.I know David put into words what I already knew,and since then the real process has begun.You are your only chance.Or you get to do it again.Any questions on sources,material is welcome.


There is, and there has been for thousands of years, a 'specific date'.
This date is a dimensional shift.... a cleansing of non-natural material/atoms/molecules, down to the tiniest of particles. A higher vibration and evolution of consciousness which will dramatically increase exponentially as the date approaches.
The date is specific, and is astrologically pinpoint-accurate, by 'ancient astronomers' (mayans/aztecs), and backed up by more modern research (channeled and otherwise). It is more than the date of just the 'end of an age and start of a new astrological age' it is the end of the largest cycle of the procession of the universe.
It is not a matter of it being a 'garage door which takes a while to open'...it is a fixed date, with a fixed occurence, whether or not enough people can increase their own personal vibrations and go with the flow, that is irrelevent. The date will still remain the same for the shift.
As for people "slipping under the door" that would have happened by now if it were true. Thousands of tibetan monks and similar people have spent their whole lifetimes meditating and increasing their vibrations, has any of them disappeared and 'ascended off the earth' yet? Not to my knowledge. And until i see proof of that happening, then as far as i am concerned, it doesn't work like that.
It is related to the 100th monkey syndrome and the pinpoint date of 2012. If enough of 'our species' raise our vibration by that date, then we will all ascend, if not, then just the ones who have raised their vibration will ascend, on that date, and the rest will not. But no matter what, it will happen on that date, whether we believe it or not. It is pinpointed, it is astrologically certain.

[johnpeters]

I have to agree but would add that although it is a specific date, we are feeling the build up to it. I'm not personally convinced it's 2012 and I don't think the likes of Sitchin are either.

Personally I think it's sooner hence all the hurried establishment activity we're currently seeing. Whatever it is it's real and nearly here.

[21_12_2012]

I have to agree but would add that although it is a specific date, we are feeling the build up to it. I'm not personally convinced it's 2012 and I don't think the likes of Sitchin are either.

Personally I think it's sooner hence all the hurried establishment activity we're currently seeing. Whatever it is it's real and nearly here.

It has been said that the mayan calendars 'conversion' into our time (gregorian days/months/years) makes it actually in 2011, but the majority of the evidence does not point to 2011.
I suppose we will all have to wait and see....as soon as 'non-organic' material starts to melt away in front of our eyes, then we will know for certain that it's happening....

[sean~infinte]

its not realy down to the date but when we enter the photon belt silly!

didnt the mayan predicted stuff like the spanish armarda and hitler and they labeled tht the date it happened so its still by our gregorian calendar i dunno if im wrong please correct me i havent looked into there other predictions ta

sean

[21_12_2012]

its not realy down to the date but when we enter the photon belt silly!

didnt the mayan predicted stuff like the spanish armarda and hitler and they labeled tht the date it happened so its still by our gregorian calendar i dunno if im wrong please correct me i havent looked into there other predictions ta

sean

We apparently started to enter the photon belt in the late 1980's, which is why time has appeared to have 'sped up' since that time. Apparently we will be in the middle of the belt 2012.

The mayan calendar works on a different concept than gregorian.
It points to evolutions in human behaviour, evolutions of consciousness, major achievements by mankind in important development.

A good site is www.diagnosis2012.co.uk (look under the links section)

It probably contains everything known about 2012 and the mayan calendar. Massive site.

[oneofmany]

according to Ian Lungold, the end date is in mid 2011 and finishes on 21/12/ 2012. lots of confusion about 2012

[oneofmany]

Jesus you can post! :D 177 and counting

[21_12_2012]

according to Ian Lungold, the end date is in mid 2011 and finishes on 21/12/ 2012. lots of confusion about 2012

http://www.planetpapp.com/br21december2012/

[johnpeters]

I read quite a bit on the photon belt in books such as "You Are Becoming a Galactic Human". Scientists seem to think it's not real.

One thing's for certain. Something of a cosmic nature is happening. The only thing that matters is love.

[21_12_2012]

Jesus you can post! :D 177 and counting

Too much time on my hands I think. haa (plus, I think I am addicted to this forum :eek: )

[21_12_2012]

One thing's for certain. Something of a cosmic nature is happening. The only thing that matters is love.

Here here !

[oneofmany]

We apparently started to enter the photon belt in the late 1980's, which is why time has appeared to have 'sped up' since that time. Apparently we will be in the middle of the belt 2012.

The mayan calendar works on a different concept than gregorian.
It points to evolutions in human behaviour, evolutions of consciousness, major achievements by mankind in important development.

A good site is www.diagnosis2012.co.uk (http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk) (look under the links section)

It probably contains everything known about 2012 and the mayan calendar. Massive site.

aren't we supposed to be living in a thousand years of light from the photon belt? a couple of years and were already half way through doesn't seem right to me.

[21_12_2012]

aren't we supposed to be living in a thousand years of light from the photon belt? a couple of years and were already half way through doesn't seem right to me.

I think it is said that we shall have a thousand years of light (or is it 2000?) after 2012, meaning 2012 is the start of the new 'age of light' (or 'dimensional shift')

[eternal_spirit]

Only time will tell! I must admit when I first read about this subject many years ago, it was a great concept, man becoming more loving peacfull and with special powers etc etc due to changes in the sun and solar sytem and the effect this would have on mans conciousness.

I for one won't be counting down to 2012 sorry to be a big fat hairy bummer but i can't believe it anymore! :rolleyes: Unless I'm wrong only time will tell!:cool:

[21_12_2012]

aren't we supposed to be living in a thousand years of light from the photon belt? a couple of years and were already half way through doesn't seem right to me.

Pardon my error...i meant to say "we will be FULLY IMMERSED within the photon belt by 21/12/2012"

[sean~infinte]

i read somwhere tht the maya 2012 is actualy our 2007 cant seem to find where i heard this as the other forums down

[21_12_2012]

i read somwhere tht the maya 2012 is actualy our 2007 cant seem to find where i heard this as the other forums down

If that were true, it would be the best news ever !

Although, unfortunately for the 'illuminati', that would mean:-

no 'major' nuclear-type wars (russia/china scenario)
no 'antichrist on the world scene' scenario
no 'microchipped population' scenario
no fake 'bird flu epidemic' scenario
no major 'worldwide economic financial breakdown' scenario
no 'one world government' scenario
no 'one world religion' scenario

etc etc etc....
Unless of course the illuminati could fit all this into 2007 before the dimensional shift.....never know !

[sean~infinte]

i agree but maybe thats what will bring on the definite change of humanity simply becuase of a mis calculation

of course i dont wanna get to exicted as it seems its only one source saying this but since time is illusion maybe its all in thought power

[firefly402]

I suggest you all read the [url]www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi., an interesting article about tsumanis (solar winds) coming our way on 9th March 2007

[21_12_2012]

i agree but maybe thats what will bring on the definite change of humanity simply becuase of a mis calculation

of course i dont wanna get to exicted as it seems its only one source saying this but since time is illusion maybe its all in thought power

The sooner the better, the changes can't come soon enough for me !
The world needs nothing more than a massive 'shake up and wake up'

I have noticed MASSIVE emphasis on 'global warming' recently. We can't get away from this myth on TV/newspapers/radio everywhere....
Maybe the 'powers that be' don't even know how this whole '2012 thing' is going to go....maybe they don't have a clue when the natural disasters are going to occur, but are preparing the world by 'lying to us early' about global warming, incase the disasters start kicking off this year....it wouldn't surprise me...and it would also explain why the 'war of terror' and the 'increased fear' is accelerating more rapidly than ever right now....i think the NWO are as clueless as we are about when the disasters will strike, and what will exactly happen in 2012...but I'm sure they know it'll be something BIG... !

[21_12_2012]

I suggest you all read the [url]www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi., an interesting article about tsumanis (solar winds) coming our way on 9th March 2007

I tried to go on that page but it froze my PC !

[geewhizz]

Oh 11:11 now thats interesting.

Yeah I can remember the first total eclipse of the sun in uk (1999 or 2000?) and that happened on 11th November at precisely 11:11 am (11,11 11:11)

But how about this, maybe it will be November 2011 when the fun and games begin:eek:

Who knows

p.s ive been seeing 9:11 + 11:11 everywhere now for around 9yrs its gr8:)

[tinmenace]

Ascension time !

So, what does that mean?

[neondestiny]

After some debating to myself, I started to think that maybe 2012 is a bogus day or just the start of a cycle, not necessarily the end. I think that this maybe true because the Gregorian calendar fucked up the months. September=Septo=7, October=Octo=8, November=Nove=9, December=Deci=10. But as we know, those months are for 9,10,11,12. August and July were added from Augustus and Julius Ceaser. I think that something funny is going on. More manipulation perhaps? I know the change is coming, but exactly, I am not so certain. Ideas?
I am so glad you posted this, this has been my thoughts for a long time about the actual date being wrong because of calender changes.

[oneofmany]

After some debating to myself, I started to think that maybe 2012 is a bogus day or just the start of a cycle, not necessarily the end. I think that this maybe true because the Gregorian calendar fucked up the months. September=Septo=7, October=Octo=8, November=Nove=9, December=Deci=10. But as we know, those months are for 9,10,11,12. August and July were added from Augustus and Julius Ceaser. I think that something funny is going on. More manipulation perhaps? I know the change is coming, but exactly, I am not so certain. Ideas?
I am so glad you posted this, this has been my thoughts for a long time about the actual date being wrong because of calender changes.

Stuart Swerdlow also speaks of a king who said on his birthday one year that we'll skip 3 years and tomorrow the new date will be 3 years later. Sorry I'm not sure which king it was or the precise time but Stuart said it in his mind control talk.

[lemonique]

Hi all, Yea..the 2012 subject can be very confusing to say the least!
Here's a bit more for you, so we can be even more confused :confused:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=576560
Google Answers: What happens when we cross the "Galactic Plane"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5472075304142020153&hl=en
The Horizon Project Full - Google Video

Lemonique

[chocky pud]

Hi all, Yea..the 2012 subject can be very confusing to say the least!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5472075304142020153&hl=en
The Horizon Project Full - Google Video

Lemonique

After watching this video you start to seriously wonder why we are so busy focussing on the Illuminati NWO agenda. Seriously, if the information in the vieo is scientifically correct (and they put forward a faairly convincing case), the we're most likely about to lose around 90% of the Earths population. There will be nothing to create a NWO agenda with, as the surviving population will be reduced to stone-age conditions.

Does make you wonder though if we've completely misunderstood the motivation behind the current weather altering technolkogies we are all seeing in our skies (chemtrails, scalar, HAARP). Is this all part of testing equipment the controllers hope to use in order to thwart the 'expected' global warming and other earth change this planet is about to face.....and are perhaps already facing? Is this an attempt on their part to try and prevent (what according to this video) are the inevitable outcomes as we get closer and closer to the glactic centre?

If our fate is spelled out in this video and we only have a handful of years left to enjoy here, it sure makes you wonder why the NWO lot would be so hell bent on starting another war - this time in Iran - unless of coure they are STILL hoping to find some vital clues or some ancient piece of Annunaki equipment they suspect is buried or hidden in that particular region of the planet. Are they looking for 'something' they'd hoped to find in Iraq (but didn't?) that will help them all make their great excape from this planet, leaving the rest of us here to perish? Are the current weather-control devices being tested over our heads merely a back-up plan for in case their other plans fail and they all get stuck here and have to battle the harsh elements to survive with the rest of us 'profane sheeple'?

[tonto o_reilly]

well...what can ya say....
I think it is all a giant computer simulation.
Maybe the outcome inevitable.

[dane]

The Mayans predicted a solar eclipse over china over 1000 years ago.
It was spot on to the second, so that says something about there dates.

[lemonique]

well...what can ya say....
I think it is all a giant computer simulation.
Maybe the outcome inevitable.

Hi, all the more reason to 'HAVE FUN IN OUR UNDIES' like Lime suggests eh??;)
Lemonique

[seagiftsx]

I agree with that assessment JohnPeters, its a process, and its evidenced by exactly what you just articulated..just that. You see it everywhere, its started.

[seagiftsx]

Well perhaps its because they will have many hidie holes with comfort to survive in., other planets to go to, but they will not let go of their hold here..not at all...they can easily ride it out with the immense places they have tucked away underground....there usually is a method to their Illiminated madness..they intend to survive make no mistake, surely..and perhaps if everyone is chipped, and there are less of us to begin with , making sure they can find survivors, and use them however, prisoners are prisoners, and thinking they will abandon and not make use of even a carcass of the Earth, (being dramatic but making a point)they want to still be in control; wont be as difficult a task..after all, this is a process, during that process there possibly/likely will be massive chaos, everywhere...that has to be contained., face it..this is how they plan to win the 'game' and stay on top of it...they were here then, Lizard dna Annunaki extroardinaire. Hope to be here and see all of them thwarted, cant imagine what it will be like...but the Earth will do what it will despite us all.

[loveemotion]

After some debating to myself, I started to think that maybe 2012 is a bogus day or just the start of a cycle, not necessarily the end. I think that this maybe true because the Gregorian calendar fucked up the months. September=Septo=7, October=Octo=8, November=Nove=9, December=Deci=10. But as we know, those months are for 9,10,11,12. August and July were added from Augustus and Julius Ceaser. I think that something funny is going on. More manipulation perhaps? I know the change is coming, but exactly, I am not so certain. Ideas?

There is a video of a contactee (Alex Collier) to the ANDROMEDANS, good human looking beings that trying to help us..

video is on youtube search for Alex Collier... he explains what could happen... and what should happen..
MUST SEE!!!!
LAL (love and light)

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http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0705/europarising_newhorizons_big.jpg
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

[edelweiss pirate]

That's a lovely picture Edit....


On the subject:

http://www.december212012.com/
Mel Gibson has reportedly recently wanted to aquire this website.

You say that 2012 as if it is a good thing... I would make a point of running a mile from anything Gibson and his schizo-gnostic bible buddies believe, if they're going that way it's a sure indication that it's the wrong way...

Discernment please.

[chicken_little]

I saw a piece on PBS over the weekend that discussed Isaac Newton, his works, and his life. One of the things they covered was his secret, and very passionate, interest in religion and the Bible. They shared that Newton spent a great deal of time studying the Bible and mapping out the time line of events within, how they related to modern times (in Newton's day), so that he could determine when the end of the world would come. He arrived at the year 2060. From our perspective today that's a big difference from 2012, but it's still not that distant from 2007. I thought it was interesting and worth mention in this thread.

Here's a link to the show on the PBS site: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/newton/

[earthseed]

This is how I see it the matrix tortures itself for free energy to keep expanding. Than it takes a break gives itself a cookie (2012 age of light). Than goes right back to going after itself to keep expanding so it can fill the void. It wants to fill the void so all parts can be equal. Than after that it will be in oneness. I'm copying and pasting all the out there books I've read. Smack me but I'm trying to understand what the heck we are doing this all for.

[earthseed]

Just thought of something obvious all these exact times and exact dates for change. There is an intelligence of some kind trying to get us all in line to do something. Now what is that something? Will it be good or bad? And don't tell me you aren't allowed to say anything is bad or good that's just escapist thinking.

[scottymac123]

Well here's a quote from David himself (newsletter from end of 2006):

"Many believe that the culmination of major energy cycles identified by the Maya will happen on December 21st 2012. Others, like Dr. Carl Johan Calleman, the author of books such as The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness, say this date is actually October 28th 2011. Still other estimates I have seen say February 10th 2011. Whatever it may be, it's soon, and it correlates with what I was told many times in 1990, and on numerous occasions since, that a spiritual awakening of fantastic proportions has arrived."

Therefore the earliest date is from 10th Feb 2011, to 21st Dec 2012 things will be changing . . .

[mada88]

Something will happen in 2010 then 2061 then 3001 following the books lol :D

[oden]

Ragnorok began when the gods of the earth fought over control of the planet.
We lost the battle and our assets were frozen (atlantis and lemuria). Well the treaty signed is about to expire and our assets are again liquifying. The first part of Ragnorok is the end of our way of life and the beginnig of existance in hel. This life has been our peoples reality for hundreds and some cases thousands of years. Though the concept of Ragnorok is the end of the world it is also the rebirth of the world. in 2012 Ragnorok will change gears into the rebirth of our culture and planet and the NWOs Armegeddon will begin for it is the end of their control over the world assets. Greenland and Antartica were swallowed by the sea and then frozen in a different vibrational state. The Bermuda triangle is a pole. On the polar opposite of Bermuda lies another triangle off the coast of japan that claims planes and boats just like the bermuda triangle. When the global water level reaches high enough levels, the equater will swell with water levels far higher than anticipated. As the Earth rotates, water from the melting poles will gather centrifically along the equator and roll the planet to its original poles. The north pole will be The Bermuda triangle area and the south pole will be around the Japanese triangle area. Leaving the UK, Scandanavia, greenland,and antartica sitting in tropic zones.
Well how do you like those apples?