Pr0n?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

It just kinda popped into my head. What are all you peoples opinions on porn?

Be honest, even if it is positive or negetive.

[emma royds]

It just kinda popped into my head. What are all you peoples opinions on porn?

Be honest, even if it is positive or negetive.


It is my opinion that it retards spiritual growth.

[11kushna11]

I think it's OK in moderation, like anything prohibitive to spiritual development.

It can be addictive and obsessive, and it's also a progressive addiction since once you've exposed yourself to it you tend to only be able to 'get off' to harder and nastier material. I wouldn't recommend it as a daily indulgence but once or twice a week to release the physiological tension shouldn't do any harm. Sexual imagery is all around us anyway so we spend our lives in a permenant state of slight arousal... and since it takes intense emotional control to combat natural sexual feelings, taking of them 'manually' on occasion probably isn't a bad idea. But remember, you can always use your imagination. Or get a boyfriend/girlfriend.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

It is my opinion that it retards spiritual growth.

Interesting choice of wording, but ok, cool. :)

[edelweiss pirate]

If you ever want to get off this planet you'll never make it if you're addicted to porn....

Not only is there the physical addiction to looking at someone's shaved monkey suit, which is definitely locking you into a primal animal reproduce urge = orgasm reward... You're also watching women being fucked, often against their will...

I used to watch porn and feel there was something a bit fucked up and sad about the women involved... Especially French porn, the men involved are just fucking brutes..

Seriously, porn is fucked. Completely. Literally.

[mara of the acoma]

Alright in moderation, but like anything else, dangerous when it becomes an addiction.

Become self-sufficient: make your own porn. ;)

[auron]

I used to be into watching porn big time years ago. Now i know that the porn industry is something to stay away from. I agree, it keeps you locked in 5 sense reality.


Become self-sufficient: make your own porn. ;)

Now there's an idea. Lol :D

[a fine naked fellow]

Porn is good, thought not all porn is good. And sometimes its sticky. :)

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I think porn can be good.

But the problem is, is sicko's that want to see a dog bang a woman while she's pleasuring a goat, or some shit.

I think porn can be good for couples. Having some fun. And sometimes goo if it's been too long, and all that tension is there, you know.

[a fine naked fellow]

Yeah, it’s a question of quality.

There is nothing wrong with sexuality in any of its multifaceted forms or expressions.
And I am for free expression and creativity.

People associate porn with perversion and it doesn’t help that a lot of it is icky.

[mikeproteau]

It just kinda popped into my head. What are all you peoples opinions on porn?

Be honest, even if it is positive or negetive.


i love pron

[eternal_spirit]

Most of the ppl are hypnotised to do some of the stuff they perform. One man and woman lovingly having sex both consenting that's okay, it can teach you new positions etc.

I've found alot of girls don't enjoy watching, it can kill a real life relationship. All in all I don't think it's a good thing porn. It can give people ideas that they wan't to try out for real after watching, the more they see certain scenes they consider that to be normal sexual behaviour where in reality it could be deemed as deviant, depending on you're view point.

I think some of it's acting up a bit for the cameras, when they're not really always enjoying what their doing.

[lottie]

I think some of it's acting up a bit for the cameras, when they're not really always enjoying what their doing.

All of its 'acting up to the cameras' as its an industry afterall- its about making money!

[eternal_spirit]

All of its 'acting up to the cameras' as its an industry afterall- its about making money!

True, If you have really good sex there is no need to watch porn if you're truly satisfied. I wanted to film me and my X lol she wan't up for it, never explained why, just got mad at me. I wondered if she thought it was perverted filming, or that I would pass around the video, which I wouldn't of done, would of just been for me and her to watch.

[king]

It just kinda popped into my head. What are all you peoples opinions on porn?

Be honest, even if it is positive or negetive.

porn shit makes me angry, especially when i download a video, and it turns out to be ugly, vile, despicable fu#%ing with closeup of genitals instead of what video filename suggest.


i think that sex should be private thing, between man and a woman.
what separates a human from an animal should not be lost, otherwise human becomes sub human and in a sense that is worse than an animal.

falling from a grace is what porn is all about.

I also believe that watching porn or any perversion of it is
stifling one's spiritual growth.

what many seem not understand is that same forces who are using other methods to corrupt humans into beast are using pornography as a tool.
because, once porn becomes "normal" -- the reference point of what is normal
has changed.

the proverbial Devil must be laughing his arse off, he already has proven that many of the humans are just plain stupid.

if humans were not that stupid, why will we see so many people who are accepting garbage that is dumped on them by MSM?

why would people puncture and defile their beautiful bodies with bolts, pins, hooks and tattoos?

why would they poison their minds with porn and violence?

why would they submit their will, their way of life to the way of life of their electronic screen idols?

[peter19]

i think porn is ok. but i think a thing what it can make you do is you dont see the person, like you dont see who they really are, and if you are the type who wants sex all the time its like - look at the arse on her, id fuck her all over ect. me point behing that you dont see the person and think to yourself - i wouldnt mind getting to know her, she seems nice. it can make you see people just as objects were there is a purpose for them then when you have finished, youv finished. so i agree with other posters, its ok in moderation, like most things.

[eternal_spirit]

Btw I don't watch porn never been a big fan, used to when I was younger. Think alot of young men wanted to be footballers, rock stars or porn starts at one time in their youth.
I did lol.

I realised later that kicking a ball about is more fun than watching football, I don't enjoy watching the game, music can be fun creating and recording at home. Same goes for porn watching can't be compared to real sex.

[auron]

Same goes for porn watching can't be compared to real sex.

That's if you're getting it! :D

[synergy777]

Its A Vast Genre, I Prefer Curvy Real Women, Bootylicous Divas, Or Lesbo, Come On Blokes Love Lesbo.

Although Whats Worse Death/violence Or Sex? I Think Playboy Is The Best Brand, Best Chicks Etc.

[auron]

I love Bill Hick's take on pornography! If you can get hold of Bill's performance called "Rant In E-Minor", It's well worth a listen! :)

[synergy777]

Women Fuck Blokes For Money, Power , Etc All The Time, Or Are You Telling Me Women Are Always In Love And Are Not After Money/big Dicks, Lets Stop Being Ignorant. Women, Men Not Much Seperates Them. How Many Affairs, Divorces, Kids From Extra Marital Affairs Are There. See We Men Recognise We Manipulate Our Way To A Fuck, Why Can't Women Admit It.

I Think This Blaming Men And Making Out Women To Be Mousy, Innocent Parties Is Bullshit, Women Run Men Most Of The Time And Are Fully Aware Of The Transaction Of Sex And Its Value. Power Of The Pussy. Although A Lot Of Chicks Have A False Value On Their Worth.

I Know Women That Are Married And Fuck Away When The Mans Not At Home Etc.

[shodan]

I Know Women That Are Married And Fuck Away When The Mans Not At Home Etc

This is taught through the soaps and magazines and self-policeing. It's telling people there's something wrong with people who are faithful and do not cheat. Social Engineering and very sad, its got a ton to answer for.

Peace

[synergy777]

no, this is from fuck buddies, ,and weekend pussy.

[synergy777]

i got some chicks that could hook up with you, although her weekday schedule is busy.

[cleft_asunder]

It is my opinion that it retards spiritual growth.

I'm addicted to porn, and I can say with almost 100% certainty that it retards spiritual growth, or perhaps more precisely, it restrics you from accessing the higher self. For example, when I don't masturbate I am able to have very vivid dreams that I always remember, and often times they are predictions of the future.

[shodan]

no, this is from fuck buddies, ,and weekend pussy.

That arrived later, a downward spiral, sex minus sprituality, a need, usually alcahol and drug fuelled. Loads of fun but ultimately spirit-crushing

[cleft_asunder]

I think it's OK in moderation, like anything prohibitive to spiritual development.

It can be addictive and obsessive, and it's also a progressive addiction since once you've exposed yourself to it you tend to only be able to 'get off' to harder and nastier material. I wouldn't recommend it as a daily indulgence but once or twice a week to release the physiological tension shouldn't do any harm. Sexual imagery is all around us anyway so we spend our lives in a permenant state of slight arousal... and since it takes intense emotional control to combat natural sexual feelings, taking of them 'manually' on occasion probably isn't a bad idea. But remember, you can always use your imagination. Or get a boyfriend/girlfriend.

Right.

[synergy777]

people equate sex with love, most people are not spiritual. so their definition/experience of love is emotional attachment/sex/social=financial. thats why when they get bored, they fall out of love, its high school crush mentality.

what is soul to them, they think they are animals, no god/creator etc. look at the state of marriage, relationships, its a biological affair strictly. its not nice saying it, buts it true. look at these people, i am in love, lol, what they know about love. making sure he agrees with you, does what you say, so compliance is a must, so is sex. what else

i mean i know some shallow, arrogant, women, their men are under the thumb, pussies.they don't have equality, they have control. i feel sorry for the poor blokes sentenced to spend their lives with these women.

[synergy777]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe71.html

Statism, Post-Modernism, and the Death of the Western World
by Steven LaTulippe

America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without creating a civilization in-between.

– Oscar Wilde

Some time ago, I was at a friend’s house and happened to catch an HBO TV show called Sex and the City. Since I don’t watch much TV, I hadn’t seen it before. But after a few minutes, I was riveted to the screen and remained glued to my chair through several episodes.

The show is, in a word, horrifying. To give the Devil his due, it is also brilliant...in the sense that Hannibal Lecter is a brilliant criminal or napalm is a brilliant weapon. The writing, acting, and cinematography are amazing, the women’s lives are intriguing, and the comedy is truly hilarious.

But brilliance of production aside, Sex and the City has a number of profound socio-political nuances that dovetail with an issue I’ve been kicking around for quite some time; namely, that the Western world is experiencing the final stages of a cultural struggle between two radically different versions of social organization (which I call "organic culture" and "post-modernism"). This struggle is the single dominant issue of our age, and it defines a variety of conflicts both within Western civilization and between it and other civilizations, stretching from the relentless expansion of our government to our misbegotten "war on terror."

For those who haven’t seen it, Sex and the City tells the story of four thirty-something single women living in New York City. They live a life that, while all too common today, is perhaps unprecedented in human history (especially for women). They are completely deracinated and homogenized, having no discernable family, either nuclear or extended. They have no religious convictions. Their life consists mostly of wandering around Manhattan, eating in chic restaurants, maxing-out their credit cards in fashionable boutiques, and engaging in a bewildering variety of casual sexual relationships.

Despite the glitz, I came away from the show with a profound sense of melancholy, especially for the women themselves (and, more importantly, for any real women whose circumstances might actually mimic those of these characters).

In essence, their lives are more akin to that of animals than to anything that could be called genuinely human. They live lives dominated by impulses and sensations rather than by the intellect or the spirit, lives of indulgence rather than of purpose. They reside in the "eternal present," without regard for the future and without reverence for the past. Even more disturbingly, their lifestyle has a spooky passivity to it, a sense of slavery to their vices. If someone takes them to a swanky Thai restaurant, they’ll eat. If someone hands them a martini, they’ll drink. If a handsome guy appears, they’ll copulate.

That is, in a nutshell, the sum total of their existence. Their post-modernism really isn’t a culture, but an anti-culture. It’s what people do in the absence of authentic culture...it is a downward spiral into the abyss. These women are, admittedly, an extreme example. But the beauty of art lies in its ability to harness archetypes for the purpose of making social and political commentary.

At the opposite end of the spectrum lies what I call "organic culture." The most extreme examples of this form of social organization are the Amish and the Hasidic Jews.

Organic cultures are typified most importantly by a "chain of being." In such circumstances, an individual sees himself as one link in a family that extends back through innumerable generations, usually ending in a mythical creation story that connects him with the supernatural (early Romans, for instance, could often recite their ancestry back dozens of generations, ending with one of the Gods or Heroes of their mythology). Such an individual also looks to the future and adjusts his time preferences to account for the needs of future generations. Respect of one’s ancestors and concern for one’s descendants are thus wrapped together in a religious and culture milieu that is of profound importance in everyday life. These families are linked to other, similar families through the bonds of culture and religion. Together, they see themselves as a unique "tribe" moving through history toward some final destiny.

The Western world, beginning with the French Revolution and culminating in WW I (a pointless, fratricidal slaughter if ever there was one), is now drowning in the cesspool of post-modernism. Our intellectual and cultural elites have long since abandoned whatever remnants of organic culture they may have had and now totally embrace this new, dysfunctional cultural Weltanschauung.

This is of importance for several reasons. In particular, like Alexis de Tocqueville, I don’t believe a system of self-government can exist in the absence of an ethical people. A society of self-indulgent, cosmopolitan vagabonds cannot maintain a free republic.

Our system is, in fact, breaking down all around us. To borrow a term from the Marxists, post-modernism carries with it the seeds of its own destruction. This worldview, and its attendant self-destructive contradictions, is causing much of the decay we are now experiencing.

Specifically, post-modernism suffers from three major flaws that are leading to its (and our) demise.

Ethical relativism

Perhaps the most important task of any civilization is to develop a single, coherent system of morality (and to transmit that system to its youth). A functioning society requires almost continual interaction between citizens. And that, in turn, requires a high level of trust. Without that trust, and without a common set of principles on which to base it, the entire system unravels.

Post-modernism is marked by extreme relativism, secularism, and multiculturalism. In fact, post-modernism prides itself in its disdain for any system of ethics, believing this disdain represents "liberation" from oppressive social structures.

We can see the results of this philosophy all around us. We needn’t sail into the controversial shoals of sexual morality to appreciate the political ramifications of this post-modern view (though a deluge of illegitimacy and the accelerating break-down of the nuclear family are ultimately incompatible with a free republic).

On the contrary, we need look no further than our foreign policy and the status of our political leadership. Our attack on Iraq, based as it was on lies and deception, is exhibit A. Our use of torture, the repeal of habeas corpus, the CIA rendition program, etc. represent the breakdown of a moral compass at the highest levels of our government.

But our domestic policy is not much better. Take, for instance, something as petty as our government’s economic statistics. It is well known that such mundane calculations as our unemployment rate, our inflation rate, and our trade deficit are routinely "cooked" in order to deceive the American people about the true state of our economy. The government intentionally distorts our budget deficit figures to avoid making difficult spending decisions.

And whenever a spotlight is shined on Congress, what do we find skittering toward the baseboards? We see a system based, at its very core, on swindling, backstabbing, and favor-swapping. The Duke Cunningham scandal showed the banality of a culture where votes were for sale to the highest bidder. The Abramoff scandal revealed the dirty world of bribery/lobbying that dominates the halls of our government. The Shays scandal showed the seamy, sordid subculture that lurks around Capitol Hill after dark.

Many of these scandals have, as their common root, the amoral quest for the unearned, which is perhaps the final common denominator of our entire political system. But this represents, itself, a cultural and ethical failing that post-modernism has exacerbated to the extreme.

(As an aside, it is no coincidence that the Clinton and Bush II administrations, perhaps the most systematically dishonest and scandal-plagued presidencies in our history, are also the first two of the baby boomer generation. That cohort is the first generation in American history to have embraced post-modernism in toto.)

I, for one, am not surprised by any of these scandals. Post-modernism is locked into a dysfunctional synergy with statism, and each feeds into the other. Unfortunately, they are sucking all of us down with them.

As for organic culture, I’ve often mused that the Amish are a clear and present danger to our system. As Lew Rockwell noted recently, they take no welfare, they pay for their own medical care (in cash), they save for their own retirement, they don’t join our military on its exciting escapades, and they educate their own children.

At some point, I fully expect to hear of government bureaucrats recommending that Amish children be whisked away from their families and redistributed to urban housing projects for a less "antisocial" upbringing.

After all, if the Amish worldview should spread, our entire welfare-warfare system would literally collapse.

Auto-genocide

Post-modern culture treats children as an expensive and peculiar hobby, something like a curious fashion statement. Children are, after all, expensive, messy, and they interfere with an active dating life. And if children are seen as a mere fashion accessory or an emotional indulgence, then one will do just as well as two (and much better than three or four). This attitude reveals itself in the demographic statistics of all societies that have adopted post-modernism. Across the Western world (and some unfortunate parts of Asia), there has been a catastrophic collapse in birthrates. Over the next few decades, parts of Europe may see their populations fall in half.

Organic culture views children in a radically different fashion, which was summed up brilliantly by Oswald Spengler in his seminal The Hour of Decision:

A woman of [tribe] does not desire to be a "companion" or a "lover," but a mother; and not the mother of one child, to serve as a toy and distraction, but of many: the instinct of a strong tribe speaks in the pride that large families inspire, in the feeling that barrenness is the hardest curse that can befall a woman and through her, the tribe. Out of this instinct arises the primitive jealousy which leads one woman to take away from another the man whom she covets as the father of her children. The more intellectual jealousy of the great cities, which is little more than erotic appetite and looks upon the other party as a means of pleasure, and even the mere fact of considering the desired or dreaded number of children who are to be born, betrays the waning of the tribal urge to permanence; and that instinct for permanence cannot be reawakened by speeches and writing. Primitive marriage...was anything but sentimental. A man wants stout sons who will perpetuate his name and his deeds beyond his death into the future and enhance them, just as he has done himself through feeling himself heir to the calling and works of his ancestors.

This describes, in the simplest of terms, the difference between the two cultural worldviews. (As an aside, I’ve often assumed that the partisans of post-modernism understand – perhaps subconsciously – that their culture is doomed because of its inability to reproduce, and that this understanding could explain the overwhelming presence of these partisans in our institutions of education and popular culture, where they can corrupt other people’s children into their dysfunctional paradigm and strive to perpetuate that culture without having to actually reproduce themselves.)

Since the West has adopted this model, it has only two choices: It can throw off the yoke of post-modernism and reestablish an organic culture that is capable of reproducing itself, or it will be colonized and overrun by other, more prolific cultures. Western elites believe they can avoid a demographic collapse by importing replacement populations and corrupting them with post-modernism before the newcomers are able to impose their own organic culture on the host nations. This may work for America and its largely Hispanic immigrant population, but its prospects with European Islam are, to say the least, highly suspect.

The death of the sacred

Post-modernism is a materialist philosophy to its very core. By "materialist," I don’t mean greedy (though Heaven knows there is plenty of that), but rather I refer to the Marxist sense of the term. Post-modernism is anti-spiritual. It recognizes nothing beyond the immediate, concrete world. It has no higher aspirations and provides no spiritual sustenance to its adherents. If a man has food stamps, a welfare check, and a place in a government housing project, it believes he has everything he could possibly need or want. (Actually, that is true only as far as the commoners are concerned. For the post-modern elites, they require exotic ethnic cuisine, cheap immigrant household labor, and a custom Maybach...but this is a difference in degree, not kind.)

Despite these materialist assertions, mankind needs a "reverence for the sacred" to inspire him to loftier heights. One need only walk into the Sistine Chapel or enjoy a Bach requiem mass to see the results of an artist’s soul being touched by the divine.

The increasingly ugly and vulgar creations of our contemporary artistic world are, on the other hand, more likely a manifestation of post-modernism’s degeneration to its ultimate endgame: nihilism.

Conclusion:

It is difficult for contemporary generations to even imagine what has been lost. One of the reasons I enjoy cinematic productions of Jane Austen novels is for precisely this reason. It is fascinating to see what Western culture actually looked like before the collapse and to see how the people thought and acted. I’m fascinated by their complex manners, their vibrant sense of right-and-wrong, and their organic connection to their history (in Sense and Sensibility, even the bad guy, a total cad, carries a copy of Shakespeare’s sonnets in his pocket). Western culture has been withering since the early 20th Century. Those of us born during or after the sixties social revolution have no living memory of even a vestigial remnant of Western culture, but rather have experienced only the degenerate post-modernism, drenched in stifling humanism, absurd universalism, and fatuous egalitarianism, that has dominated ever since.

As Hans-Hermann Hoppe noted so trenchantly, democracy has led us down the primrose path to decadence, which in turn has provided continuous justifications for yet more statism. This system of decadence, however enticing and delectable it may sometimes be, is unsustainable. This cannot go on. It will ultimately end in bankruptcy, demographic implosion, or Road Warrior-style chaos.

If one believes in Spengler’s view of civilization as akin to an organic life form, then the West cannot recover its earlier, more pristine self any more than a senior citizen can be reborn as an adolescent.

In that case, the die is cast and we are finished. The women of Sex and the City will be our civilizational epitaph.

But if Spengler is wrong, then the possibility of a rebirth exists.

Only time will tell.

October 26, 2006

Steven LaTulippe [send him mail] is a physician currently practicing in Ohio. He was an officer in the United States Air Force for 13 years.

its seeking acceptance/definition by consumption and sex. purchasing power and sex are the two hallmarks of successful life.

[cleft_asunder]

While we're on this subject, I want to mention that internet porn websites aren't some random creation by average people like us. Well, most of it still is, but a lot of it is payed for by the controllers, and more and more websites that are independently owned are shut down --often by the controllers themselves!-- and replaced by mainstream websites under the same address. They pay people like you and me to put up websites devoted to a particular degradation. It is similar to the pilots who fly the chemtrail planes. These websites that are put up, eventually meld into a big webring in which the format is generally the same. The agenda is to have an internet porn foundation which dominates the porn scene--mainstream porn essentially.

The controllers have a huge mainstream porn industry on the net right now, and what is happening is that porn over the years has been manipulated to being harder and harder. Back in the late 1990's, it wasn't as perverted, but now the Illuminati have introduced, often indirectly, such perversions as: Humiliation/deepthroat, which is essentially rape porn. Ass-to-mouth, which is a pretext for an individual to get into scat fetish. Those are pretty much the big two. And let me tell you, EVERYONE is either into or has seen these types of porn, and people are heavily into it these days. I know this for a fact because at my gunsmithing school last semester, at least 2 individuals brought up scat fetish out of nowhere.

[cleft_asunder]

people equate sex with love, most people are not spiritual. so their definition/experience of love is emotional attachment/sex/social=financial. thats why when they get bored, they fall out of love, its high school crush mentality.

what is soul to them, they think they are animals, no god/creator etc. look at the state of marriage, relationships, its a biological affair strictly. its not nice saying it, buts it true. look at these people, i am in love, lol, what they know about love. making sure he agrees with you, does what you say, so compliance is a must, so is sex. what else

i mean i know some shallow, arrogant, women, their men are under the thumb, pussies.they don't have equality, they have control. i feel sorry for the poor blokes sentenced to spend their lives with these women.


Well said. It's interesting how people get all offended if you suggest that maybe it's not love they're feeling, but rather lust. But that's a fact most of the time. "Love at first sight" my ass. It's lust at first sight, because you are blown away at how beautiful the other person is.

Love is something that makes no distinction. Love is unconditional.

[synergy777]

http://www.profam.org/pub/fia/fia_1411.htm

Family Policies that Work: An International Perspective**

By by Kevin Andrews*


* Kevin Andrews is a member of The Australian Parliament and Chairman of its House of Representatives Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs. **From The World Congress of Families II


In order to comment on family policies that work, it is useful briefly to retrace the major demographic and social trends affecting families in the developed world. The trends fall into three broad categories.

1. A breakdown of marriage and family

There are a number of discernible trends relating to families in Western nations in recent decades:

The marriage rate has dropped;

The average age at marriage has risen;

The divorce rate has risen dramatically;

The remarriage rate has fallen;

The out-of-wedlock birth rate has risen;

The proportion of single-parent families has climbed markedly.

These changes are having a profound impact upon families.

.....more at the link


now before the programmed reaction of loud mouthed ladettes , here the reason. its not western culture, you have lost your culture to the corportaions that govern you. you are the first test case of social engineering, materialism/consumer lifestyle. the only protection against this, are the things the east holds dear and which you hate, view as old fashioned. its religion, family, culture, history. see india has undergone a revolution, watches newsnight last night, ethical man, the new developments are better than europe, the brands are all there, armani, boss, nike, marks and spencer, tesco. they they got less distance to transport their goods from factory to shop, they are made there.

this trend will happen to asian countries but not at the same level, because of our love for our culture, heritage. its nwo policy to rob you of nationality, culture etc and form you into children of the state, the state being your solepower. orwell, huxley, hg wells, they all said this. its happened, we now see it feral parents, feral kids, mtv, sky, hollywood.

[synergy777]

love is when you have kids, grow old together, the old school shit. marriage, struggles, victories together. 50/50, good time/bad times etc. thats why i laugh at all these dimwits who think they are in love, whats love, theri definition can easily be explained by explaining to them chemical reactions, psycholgical needs, biological factors. they get mad, but hey its science.

if they talk about the spiritual side, then well they just asking for it, lol

[roxanna222]

synergy I dont agree with all you say, but as for love yes its way beyond biological factors, its good times and difficult ones. unconditional love does not mean you cant get angry etc or sad with the other you can and will its a work in progress really, the unconditional part to me constitutes the hard part the work the progress, and the growth that comes of that for both, ive yet to find wonder how many of us have had this sometimes... bless

[the festival spirit]

If you ever want to get off this planet you'll never make it if you're addicted to porn....

Not only is there the physical addiction to looking at someone's shaved monkey suit, which is definitely locking you into a primal animal reproduce urge = orgasm reward... You're also watching women being fucked, often against their will...

I used to watch porn and feel there was something a bit fucked up and sad about the women involved... Especially French porn, the men involved are just fucking brutes..

Seriously, porn is fucked. Completely. Literally.

Wow this thead is powerful. it stopped me in my tracks, so to speak.

No I wasn't gonna go into my secret folder ........

My initial reaction to the question posed was

Handy........
and that still makes me chuckle..

but then I read the quoted, all of it...

I read on and about 3 posts down

Porn is good, thought not all porn is good. And sometimes its sticky. :)

I laughed out loud!

and then it hit me! you know that moment of realisation that slaps you in the face so hard!

You're also watching women being fucked, often against their will...

:(

[bigus_dickus]

You're also watching women being fucked, often against their will...

:(

what about the men?

[ho1ogram]

Pr0n?
Dunno, never tried it... but I've had fun with porn!

[the festival spirit]

love is when you have kids, grow old together, the old school shit. marriage, struggles, victories together. 50/50, good time/bad times etc. thats why i laugh at all these dimwits who think they are in love, whats love, theri definition can easily be explained by explaining to them chemical reactions, psycholgical needs, biological factors. they get mad, but hey its science.

if they talk about the spiritual side, then well they just asking for it, lol


Synergy knows. Love is real, but only the true love is really real.

[the festival spirit]

what about the men?

hi big dick.

I prefer not to choose to watch men get fucked, isnt that sick. Why is it acceptable for anyone to get fucked. I give a fuck. And I fucked everyone who has ever tried to harm me, my family or anyone else, RIGHT OFF!

A bit of clarification here, I want to express that when I say "isnt that sick" I mean isn't it sick that I once thought it was ok to watch women get fucked and not men. I am ashamed :(

[bigus_dickus]

hi big dick.

I prefer not to choose to watch men get fucked, isnt that sick. Why is it acceptable for anyone to get fucked. I give a fuck. And I fucked everyone who has ever tried to harm me, my family or anyone else, RIGHT OFF!

A bit of clarification here, I want to express that when I say "isnt that sick" I mean isn't it sick that I once thought it was ok to watch women get fucked and not men. I am ashamed :(

well, i was not asking that, i quoted a specific text. you said that you often watch women fuck against their will, so what about the men? do you think that men are always willing and women are always the victims?

[auron]

"People say "think about the women!", I say "hey! What about the guy's! I couldn't make a face like that if a car run over my foot!"" - Bill Hicks :D

[satori zen]

If you ever want to get off this planet you'll never make it if you're addicted to porn....

Not only is there the physical addiction to looking at someone's shaved monkey suit, which is definitely locking you into a primal animal reproduce urge = orgasm reward... You're also watching women being fucked, often against their will...

I used to watch porn and feel there was something a bit fucked up and sad about the women involved... Especially French porn, the men involved are just fucking brutes..

Seriously, porn is fucked. Completely. Literally.

Beware of those with such strong opinions in opposition to anything.

[rossus]

Beware of those with such strong opinions in opposition to anything.
true that.
nobody needs another guilt/fear-complex

[cleft_asunder]

true that.
nobody needs another guilt/fear-complex

Totally agree.

[chattanova]

I do not feel sorry for the porn actors/actress, if they don't like it or feels they are being abused or something why don't they get a 'normal' job like anybody else...