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amerigirl
18-05-2007, 04:44 AM
I just need a little of everyone's "expertise". They want to build a HUGE wind farm literally right down the road from me w/ little protest from my town. I've tried to google them to understand more (if there even is any) of some underlying issue w/ them. Are they a good thing? Or bad? Any help would be appreciated. I swear sometimes it's like you guys have waaay better search engines and capabilities than myself! TIA!!!!
graflok
18-05-2007, 04:51 AM
Maybe if you told us who "they" and "them" are we could help. :)
amerigirl
18-05-2007, 05:13 AM
"They" are the ppl who own the wind turbine farms. There's 3 of them (wind turbine companies) bidding on a massive amt of land down the road, and they can't release the names of the company yet.
_invisibleplane_
18-05-2007, 05:59 AM
the 3 worst things I've heard relating to them are..the hydro companies dont share any of the energy for public use, that the huge electrical wiring done on the ground for is dangers to be exposed to, and they kill a lot of birds/bats/threatening to their env
auron
18-05-2007, 07:19 AM
I just need a little of everyone's "expertise". They want to build a HUGE wind farm literally right down the road from me w/ little protest from my town. I've tried to google them to understand more (if there even is any) of some underlying issue w/ them. Are they a good thing? Or bad? Any help would be appreciated. I swear sometimes it's like you guys have waaay better search engines and capabilities than myself! TIA!!!!
Take a look at what Nikola Tesla produced over a hundred years ago! Oil, gas etc is all bollocks! Free energy has been known for a long time!
Free Energy - Nikola Tesla - Master Of Imagination.pdf (http://www.badongo.net/file/2727009)
Auron :)
shodan
18-05-2007, 09:19 AM
Wind Turbines are very inneficient as well aren't they?
armoured saint
18-05-2007, 09:27 AM
Apparently, they're expensive.
My main concern with these is the possibility that the turbines emit some form of low frequency 'sound', which could be bad for your health (subconscious health or spirit).
I do remember some farmers and residents complaining against wind turbines near their homes in Australia.
garth
18-05-2007, 01:51 PM
I just need a little of everyone's "expertise". They want to build a HUGE wind farm literally right down the road from me w/ little protest from my town. I've tried to google them to understand more (if there even is any) of some underlying issue w/ them. Are they a good thing? Or bad? Any help would be appreciated. I swear sometimes it's like you guys have waaay better search engines and capabilities than myself! TIA!!!!
Hi,
I don't have any specific info on wind turbines, all I have encountered have been almost silent, the problem comes from the high voltage transmission lines that take the generated power away from the wind farm, the lines (11 KVA) leak voltage or energy. This can be felt if you are inclose proximity to them. I have seen a light bulb illuminated that was not connected to anything but was about 50m from HT lines and also have recoded high voltage transferance from a 11kva power line to an electric fence.
Hope this helps
from Electric power transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Leukemia and Cancer
In 2001, Ahlbom et al conducted a review into EMFs and Health, and found that there was a doubling in Childhood Leukemia for magnetic fields of over 0.4 µT, though importantly summarised that "This is difficult to interpret in the absence of a known mechanism or reproducible experimental support".[3] In 2007, the UK Health Protection Agency produced a paper showing that 43% of homes with magnetic fields of over 0.4 µT are associated with overground or underground circuits of 132 kV and above.[4]
Ahlbom's findings were echoed by Draper et al in 2005 when a 70% increase was found in Childhood Leukaemia for those living within 200m of an overhead transmission line, and a 23% increase for those living between 200 and 600m. Both of these results were statistically significant.[5] The authors considered it unlikely that the increase between 200m and 600m is related to magnetic fields as they are well below 0.4 µT at this distance. Bristol University (UK) has published work on a theory that could account for this increase, and would also provide a potential mechanism.[6] [7]
The World Health Organisation factsheet on ELF (Extremely low frequency) EMFs and cancer concludes that they are "possibly carcinogenic", based primarily on IARC's similar evaluation with respect to childhood leukemia. It also stated that there was "insufficient" data to draw any conclusions on other cancers.[8] It is important to note that this factsheet was written in October 2001, and is now largely out of date due to the increase in the scientific literature since then.
melbo
18-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Wind farms 'make people sick who live up to a mile away
Onshore wind farms are a health hazard to people living near them because of the low- frequency noise that they emit, according to new medical studies. Doctors say that the turbines - some of which are taller than Big Ben - can cause headaches and depression among residents living up to a mile away.
One survey found that all but one of 14 people living near the Bears Down wind farm at Padstow, Cornwall, where 16 turbines were put up two years ago, had experienced increased numbers of headaches, and 10 said that they had problems sleeping and suffered from anxiety.
Taken from:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/nwind25.xml
stickwhistler
18-05-2007, 05:11 PM
Just a few links to various sites that have real concerns about wind turbines.
The wind turbine companies hide behind small/local companies promising sums
of money to the local population, then renege on these deals, and 'sell' out to bigger companies. Look up mergers on the European parliament site
and you will see that TXU merged with E.ON - note the anagram for ONE - and they merged with BP etc. They are all the same company behind the scenes.
They destroy natural habitats, animals, birds views, ways of life, and then say they're 'green' and we must have turbines to save the planet - meanwhile build coal fired power stations elsewhere - hypocritical liars.
Note only that but planning departments are in league with the developers forming partnerships with 'charities', that have board members from the companies proposing these developments. Search the board members of
Forum for the Future (BT, TXU, Blue Circle Cement, Tesco etc) and Friends or the Earth (Adison (corporate rebranders) Lawgram ( we fight eco activists) who represent firms prosecuted by the environment agency) Forum for the Future is also on the board for FOE.
GREENWASH!
http://www.swatt.co.uk/
http://www.illwind.info/
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hills/cc/story.htm
http://www.swap.org.uk/
http://www.woodlandleague.org/communities/derrybrien/
http://www.swap.org.uk/The%20Politics%20of%20Peat%20-%2010%20Jul%2006.pdf.
http://www.friendsofthebraes.org/
http://www.socme.org/socmenewspage.html
EU Habitats Directive - broken all the time in the UK - why else is the UK prosecuted often?
http://www.jncc.gov.uk/page-1374