Mo0n5tar
18-05-2007, 12:13 AM
From the Fabian Society website:
http://www.fabian-society.org.uk/About/history.asp
Since the 1997 general election there have been around 200 Fabian MPs in the Commons, amongst whom number nearly the entire Cabinet, including Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Robin Cook, Jack Straw, David Blunkett and Clare Short. The Society has pursued its role as the new Labour government's 'critical friend', seeking to ask challenging questions and to stimulate public debate. The Society's two-year Commission on Taxation and Citizenship criticised Labour's reluctance to discuss taxation and proposed, among other reforms, an earmarked tax for the NHS. Reports on environmental policy, capital grants to young people and parental leave directly influenced government policy in key areas.
At the start of the 21st century the Society plays as crucial a role in the political life of the country as ever.
For a longer history of the fabien socialists in their own words go here (http://www.fabian-society.org.uk/About/Fabian_History.pdf)
The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist-Godless-cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means.
wiki
Making haste slowly...
from wiki
Fabius ( from whom the Fabian Society takes it's name) was well aware of the military superiority of the Carthaginians, and when Hannibal invaded Italy he refused to meet him in a pitched battle. Instead he kept his troops close to Hannibal, hoping to exhaust him in a long war of attrition. Fabius was able to harass the Carthaginian foraging parties, limiting Hannibal's ability to wreak destruction while conserving his own military force. The delaying tactics involved a pincer of not directly engaging Hannibal while also exercising a "scorched earth" practice to prevent Hannibal's forces from obtaining grains & other resources.
The Romans were unimpressed with this defensive strategy and at first gave Fabius his epithet as an insult. The strategy was in part ruined because of a lack of unity in the command of the Roman army: Fabius' magister equitum, Minucius, was a political enemy of Fabius. It was only after Fabius had saved him from an attack by Hannibal that Minucius placed himself under Fabius' command. Minucius had been named a co-commander of the Roman forces by Fabius' detractors in the Senate. Minucius openly claimed that Fabius was cowardly because he failed to confront the Carthaginian forces. Near the present-day town of Larino in the Molise (then called Larinum), Hannibal had taken up position in a town called Gerione. In the valley between Larino and Gerione, Minucius decided to make a broad frontal attack on Hannibal's troops. Several thousand men were involved on either side. It appeared that the Roman troops were winning but Hannibal had set a trap. Soon the Roman troops were being slaughtered. Fabius, despite Minucius' earlier arrogance, rushed to his co-commander's assistance and Hannibal's forces immediately retreated. After the battle there was some feeling that there would be conflict between Minucius and Fabius. However, the younger soldier marched his men to Fabius' encampment and he is reported to have said, "My father gave me life. Today you saved my life. You are my second father. I recognize your superior abilities as a commander."
At the end of Fabius' dictatorship, the command was given back to the consuls Gnaeus Servilius Geminus and Marcus Atilius Regulus. In the following year, the new consuls Lucius Aemilius Paullus and Gaius Terentius Varro were defeated at the battle of Cannae, and the wisdom of Fabius' strategy was understood. Thus Cunctator became an honorific title. This tactic was followed for the rest of the war, as long as Hannibal remained in Italy.
Here we see the slyness and devious cunning of Fabius and we would do well to assume the organisation which bears his name the Fabian Society have inherited his strategic "wisdom".
micky nice 1 bro, good find. they even mentioned the fabian stuff on newsnight, also the smith instiute ( adam smith "wealth of nations" think tank) and ed balls.
watch newsnight that and ch4, are the best.
The scottish enlightenment was a productive time and produced father of modern economics and the capitalist model adam smith, i was unaware there was a think tank of his name, i checked the name on google and got alot of Labour Red!
http://www.smith-institute.org.uk/
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38523000/jpg/_38523045_brown_balls300.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2538599.stm
This Ed Balls is a member of Browns team and it is very important to note this man was given a (paid) Senior Research Fellowship at the Institute:
The Adam Smith Institute is a think tank based in the United Kingdom, named after the father of modern economics, Adam Smith, the organisation is NON PARTISAN:
The Institute espouses the maxims of communism
from Wiki
Non-partisan democracy (also no-party democracy) is a system of representative government or organization such that universal and periodic elections (by secret ballot) take place without reference to political parties or even the speeches, campaigns, nominations, or other apparatus commonly associated with democracy.
A government is called nonpartisan if
* the law does not permit political parties,
* government officials are not members of political parties,
* government policies are decided by a direct democracy,
* officials are chosen in nonpartisan election, or
* no parties have arisen yet within a fledgling democracy.
Electioneering and even speaking about candidates may be discouraged, so as not to prejudice others' decisions or create an inharmonious atmosphere. Candidates to an office (or candidates to a delegate position) are instead chosen strictly by the conscience of the individuals voting for them and familiarity with all potential candidates is not seen as a necessity or even a possibility. Non-partisan democracies can also possess indirect elections whereby delegates are chosen who in turn vote for the representative(s). The system works with first past the post but is incompatible with proportional representation systems other than Single Transferable Vote.
A nonpartisan system differs from a single-party system in that the governing faction identifies itself as a party. A single-party government often requires government officials to be members of the party, features a complex party hierarchy as a key institution of government, forces citizens to agree to a partisan ideology, and may enforce its control over the government by making all other parties illegal. Members of a nonpartisan government may not share any ideologies (though in voluntary organizations, they of course may). Various communist nations such as China or Cuba are single-party nations although the Members of Parliament are not elected as Party candidates. Non-partisan systems can also occur where there is a complete separation of powers.
Do we not see that the Jesuit Order is the true author of socialist communism as evidenced by their Paraguayan socialist-communist reductions?
From Vatican Assassins 3rd
“I find almost the whole wealth of Central America in the hands of the
Jesuits, and the property they hold in heads of cattle [“the Father of the
Cattle Business” being Arizona Jesuit Eusebio Kino] and sheep is
something truly enormous. . . . and they have succeeded in a word to bring
to such a height their power and riches that the secular clergy will soon be
compelled to beg their bread from the Jesuits.” {2} [Emphasis added]
Juan de Palafox, 1647
Bishop of Los Angeles, Mexico
Report to Pope Innocent X
“They dare before us, to enslave the Indians of Paraguay, to sell them, or
buy them . . . separating mothers from their children, and to despoil them of
their goods and property.” {3}
Pope Benedict XIV
Bull of December, 1741
I am starting to feel a bit reluctant to keep looking into this, i can see where it's going and i am not too happy with it!
thinktanks are the hidden hand of ideas in governments. they research and create policies that the government uses. demos, cranfield, policy exchange etc. i use to like demos, they had some cool ideas.
you know where its heading, supra national european socilaist state,lol oops the ec is here.
http://www.fabian-society.org.uk/About/history.asp
Since the 1997 general election there have been around 200 Fabian MPs in the Commons, amongst whom number nearly the entire Cabinet, including Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Robin Cook, Jack Straw, David Blunkett and Clare Short. The Society has pursued its role as the new Labour government's 'critical friend', seeking to ask challenging questions and to stimulate public debate. The Society's two-year Commission on Taxation and Citizenship criticised Labour's reluctance to discuss taxation and proposed, among other reforms, an earmarked tax for the NHS. Reports on environmental policy, capital grants to young people and parental leave directly influenced government policy in key areas.
At the start of the 21st century the Society plays as crucial a role in the political life of the country as ever.
For a longer history of the fabien socialists in their own words go here (http://www.fabian-society.org.uk/About/Fabian_History.pdf)
The Fabian Society is a British socialist intellectual movement, whose purpose is to advance the socialist-Godless-cause by gradualist and reformist, rather than revolutionary means.
wiki
Making haste slowly...
from wiki
Fabius ( from whom the Fabian Society takes it's name) was well aware of the military superiority of the Carthaginians, and when Hannibal invaded Italy he refused to meet him in a pitched battle. Instead he kept his troops close to Hannibal, hoping to exhaust him in a long war of attrition. Fabius was able to harass the Carthaginian foraging parties, limiting Hannibal's ability to wreak destruction while conserving his own military force. The delaying tactics involved a pincer of not directly engaging Hannibal while also exercising a "scorched earth" practice to prevent Hannibal's forces from obtaining grains & other resources.
The Romans were unimpressed with this defensive strategy and at first gave Fabius his epithet as an insult. The strategy was in part ruined because of a lack of unity in the command of the Roman army: Fabius' magister equitum, Minucius, was a political enemy of Fabius. It was only after Fabius had saved him from an attack by Hannibal that Minucius placed himself under Fabius' command. Minucius had been named a co-commander of the Roman forces by Fabius' detractors in the Senate. Minucius openly claimed that Fabius was cowardly because he failed to confront the Carthaginian forces. Near the present-day town of Larino in the Molise (then called Larinum), Hannibal had taken up position in a town called Gerione. In the valley between Larino and Gerione, Minucius decided to make a broad frontal attack on Hannibal's troops. Several thousand men were involved on either side. It appeared that the Roman troops were winning but Hannibal had set a trap. Soon the Roman troops were being slaughtered. Fabius, despite Minucius' earlier arrogance, rushed to his co-commander's assistance and Hannibal's forces immediately retreated. After the battle there was some feeling that there would be conflict between Minucius and Fabius. However, the younger soldier marched his men to Fabius' encampment and he is reported to have said, "My father gave me life. Today you saved my life. You are my second father. I recognize your superior abilities as a commander."
At the end of Fabius' dictatorship, the command was given back to the consuls Gnaeus Servilius Geminus and Marcus Atilius Regulus. In the following year, the new consuls Lucius Aemilius Paullus and Gaius Terentius Varro were defeated at the battle of Cannae, and the wisdom of Fabius' strategy was understood. Thus Cunctator became an honorific title. This tactic was followed for the rest of the war, as long as Hannibal remained in Italy.
Here we see the slyness and devious cunning of Fabius and we would do well to assume the organisation which bears his name the Fabian Society have inherited his strategic "wisdom".
micky nice 1 bro, good find. they even mentioned the fabian stuff on newsnight, also the smith instiute ( adam smith "wealth of nations" think tank) and ed balls.
watch newsnight that and ch4, are the best.
The scottish enlightenment was a productive time and produced father of modern economics and the capitalist model adam smith, i was unaware there was a think tank of his name, i checked the name on google and got alot of Labour Red!
http://www.smith-institute.org.uk/
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38523000/jpg/_38523045_brown_balls300.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2538599.stm
This Ed Balls is a member of Browns team and it is very important to note this man was given a (paid) Senior Research Fellowship at the Institute:
The Adam Smith Institute is a think tank based in the United Kingdom, named after the father of modern economics, Adam Smith, the organisation is NON PARTISAN:
The Institute espouses the maxims of communism
from Wiki
Non-partisan democracy (also no-party democracy) is a system of representative government or organization such that universal and periodic elections (by secret ballot) take place without reference to political parties or even the speeches, campaigns, nominations, or other apparatus commonly associated with democracy.
A government is called nonpartisan if
* the law does not permit political parties,
* government officials are not members of political parties,
* government policies are decided by a direct democracy,
* officials are chosen in nonpartisan election, or
* no parties have arisen yet within a fledgling democracy.
Electioneering and even speaking about candidates may be discouraged, so as not to prejudice others' decisions or create an inharmonious atmosphere. Candidates to an office (or candidates to a delegate position) are instead chosen strictly by the conscience of the individuals voting for them and familiarity with all potential candidates is not seen as a necessity or even a possibility. Non-partisan democracies can also possess indirect elections whereby delegates are chosen who in turn vote for the representative(s). The system works with first past the post but is incompatible with proportional representation systems other than Single Transferable Vote.
A nonpartisan system differs from a single-party system in that the governing faction identifies itself as a party. A single-party government often requires government officials to be members of the party, features a complex party hierarchy as a key institution of government, forces citizens to agree to a partisan ideology, and may enforce its control over the government by making all other parties illegal. Members of a nonpartisan government may not share any ideologies (though in voluntary organizations, they of course may). Various communist nations such as China or Cuba are single-party nations although the Members of Parliament are not elected as Party candidates. Non-partisan systems can also occur where there is a complete separation of powers.
Do we not see that the Jesuit Order is the true author of socialist communism as evidenced by their Paraguayan socialist-communist reductions?
From Vatican Assassins 3rd
“I find almost the whole wealth of Central America in the hands of the
Jesuits, and the property they hold in heads of cattle [“the Father of the
Cattle Business” being Arizona Jesuit Eusebio Kino] and sheep is
something truly enormous. . . . and they have succeeded in a word to bring
to such a height their power and riches that the secular clergy will soon be
compelled to beg their bread from the Jesuits.” {2} [Emphasis added]
Juan de Palafox, 1647
Bishop of Los Angeles, Mexico
Report to Pope Innocent X
“They dare before us, to enslave the Indians of Paraguay, to sell them, or
buy them . . . separating mothers from their children, and to despoil them of
their goods and property.” {3}
Pope Benedict XIV
Bull of December, 1741
I am starting to feel a bit reluctant to keep looking into this, i can see where it's going and i am not too happy with it!
thinktanks are the hidden hand of ideas in governments. they research and create policies that the government uses. demos, cranfield, policy exchange etc. i use to like demos, they had some cool ideas.
you know where its heading, supra national european socilaist state,lol oops the ec is here.