Masonic Ley Lines

[kerravon]

A Ley Lines survey was done of Seattle, Washington, USA in the late 80's. Attached is a picture of those results. The green dots on the map are where I looked up and plotted all the Masonic lodges in the Seattle area, and as you can see all the lodges are deliberatly placed on the lines, or intersections of the lines.

So every time a Masonic lodge is built, or catherdral, or anything of significance to the Illuminati, they are built upon the lines, or intersecting lines, either to draw energy from or allow their energy to flow out, or both.

My question is, how do masons know where they are? The Seattle survey was done over years using dowsing rods, but when was the last time you bumped into a mason with dowsing rods looking for a new location to build? So i'm thinking they must have some other way, or technology, or means to locate, or even see them (such as in the Alfred Watkins story).

Anyone got any suggestions on this?

[kerravon]

Nice to see that my thread is overflowing with replies :) Zero replies in 4 weeks has to be a new forum record.

[king]

Nice to see that my thread is overflowing with replies :) Zero replies in 4 weeks has to be a new forum record.

thread probably got pushed back with other threads

this is very interesting information.
have you really gone to all of those places with a green dot?
wow!
have you noticed anything different in energy field where lay lines are?
btw, where did you get this picture with initial lay lines?
how are those identified?

[tickles]

Hi Kerravon,

I don't have any sugestions on why & how but that is very interesting the way they place their lodges like that.
I did read somewhere that they do it to tap into the energy sources that are transmitted (for a better word) through those lay lines crossing points. There must be something to it so i'd be interested to see what others have to say about it.

Good work by the way.

Tickles.

[_invisibleplane_]

very interesting, I've also come across where countries/states that have the death penalty, are placed on the 33rd degree lines

perhaps these lines help channel energy, and there sure is a lot of energy involved in a death penalty/sacrifice

[logic bomb]

Hi Kerravon,

I never saw this thread before. Nice one, this works in any city, especially N. America.

Try pinpointing Morman Churches/Temples, JW, cathedrals, hospitals, police stations, jails, power stations. You will find they are all on these lines. Its kind of like a circuit board for certain kinds of energy, mini gateways, vortices all over the place. Unfortunately most are dark and spin the wrong way. Rituals and sacrifices keep it that way. Some well made, well placed orgonite will help counter this.

lb

[logic bomb]

My question is, how do masons know where they are?

Masons are keepers of old knowledge. Ley/dragon/qi lines are very, very old knowledge and is far from exclusive. There are many people alive today who can see where these lines stop, start and turn.

lb

[ho1ogram]

G'day kerravon, if you've got access to a map then so have others. Where did you get the map of ley lines from? Is there one on the net for Australia?

There was a discussion the other day about the use of masonic lodges for harnessing/utilising unseen energy: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=60536&posted=1#post60536 staarts at post #81

[teslafire]

Great pic, I've been searching for a map of ley lines over North America and beyond. Have you got anymore, kerravon?

[limelady]

Aren't they crafty wee devils?

Yep, keepers of ancient knowledge is how they do it.

Feeding negative energy into the ley-lines is their specialty!

I'd be very interested to see maps/lay-lines of where they have
designated areas to carry out their dealth penalties. Its the sort
of stuff that needs exposing all over the Internet.

Bastards!

Thanks for the post Kerravon, and I'm sorry I missed it 4 weeks ago!

[mcmenek1]

Hi,

The location of Ley Lines and high energy vortex points around the globe has been known since ancient times....... whole communities and cities have been built around these places........in times past this energy was used to benefit the communities that lived around them........"The Powers That Be" have taken this knowledge out of society and it is now held by the initiated few of the secret societies......who are corrupting this energy to the detriment of the communities that live around it.

The vibration frequencies of 3, 33, 333 are connected to the female energy that they are trying to suppress this is why so much negativity is attached to these number vibrations:

Every state through which the 33RD PARALLEL passes allows for the DEATH PENALTY:

ALABAMA -YES

ARIZONA - YES

CALIFORNIA - YES

NEW MEXICO - YES

GEORGIA - YES

SOUTH CAROLINA -YES

MISSISSIPPI -YES

ARKANSAS -YES

OKLAHOMA - YES

Every country through which the 33RD PARALLEL passes allows the DEATH PENALTY:

United States - Yes

Japan - Yes

China & occupied Tibet - Yes

India - Yes

Pakistan - Yes

Afghanistan - Yes

Iran - Yes

Algeria - Yes

Morocco - Yes

Tunisia - Yes

Libya - Yes

Iraq - Yes

Syria - Yes

Lebanon - Yes

Israel - Yes

Source:
http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/33rd-parallel-masonic-line-of-death-row-human-sacrifice-ritual


This is a lot of Death attached to the vibration of 33........this will have the effect of suppressing this vibration (the female vibration) which will upset the natural duality balance of the 3RD dimension which in turn will disconnect us from the higher vibrations that are only available to us if the 3rd dimension of duality is in a state of balance.......

Love
&
Peace

[limelady]

That was a great post thanks mcmenek1.

Satanic Ritual Chairs used on Ley-Lines

http://www.lincolnsblog.com/img/common/Articles/ELECTRIC_CHAIR_.jpg http://www.trosch.org/jpi/clinton-communion41.jpg

http://www.bcrevolution.ca/images/queen_motb1.jpg

[ashyr]

"the natural duality balance of the 3RD dimension"

hahah what a joke. where does the third state go?

3 DIMENSIONS means there is always 3 STATES.

mind body spirit? positive negative neutral? ANIMAL VEGETABLE MINERAL.

duality is BULLSHIT! unless u live in a 2d world controlled by ON and OFF

btw love the connetion between the CHAIR and the LEY lines. also great info on the 33'rd.

heh so u think thers something in common with 33rd scottish rite?

[tickles]

That is some very interesting info you've posted there mcmenek1 :eek:

[Ian2day]

I was thinking about the position of buildings and such attached to ley lines a while back. I had no luck finding maps of the leylines that cover the earth. I'm not surprised at all to hear that they are located on them.

[mcmenek1]

"the natural duality balance of the 3RD dimension"

hahah what a joke. where does the third state go?

3 DIMENSIONS means there is always 3 STATES.

mind body spirit? positive negative neutral? ANIMAL VEGETABLE MINERAL.

duality is BULLSHIT! unless u live in a 2d world controlled by ON and OFF



Hi ashyr,

Yes I know what you are saying here.........the statement that I made......."the natural duality balance of the 3RD dimension".......is a reference to 3 states the opposite energies of duality balance each other out to create a third balancing energy

http://www.13moon.com/natcal-tzolkinimage.htm

“The Kin Days of the Tzolk’in” is a representation of the vibrational frequencies that makeup the 3rd dimension of duality that we live in, for example it represents Male and Female, Night and Day ,Summer and Winter in a way that the vibration of one number balances the vibration of the opposite number for example if we take the first number in the grid number 1 and we add its balancing number 260 which is first reduced (2 + 6 + 0) = 8 this will give 1 + 8 = 9 and if we choose another set of balancing numbers say 75 and 186 and we reduce them this will give (7 + 5) = 12 = (1 + 2) = 3 and (1 + 8 + 6) = 15 = (1 + 5) = 6 this will leave 3 + 6 = 9


No matter what 2 balancing numbers are added the result will always be 9 so we can say from this, the balancing vibration frequency of the 3rd dimension is the number 9, which makes sense because the vibration of the word love is 9


Now then this explains why “The Powers That Be” are suppressing the vibration frequency of the number 3 by attaching it to negativity the number 3 is the balancing frequency of the number 6 in the 3rd dimension i.e. 3 + 6 = 9 if we think of the number 6 as the Male vibration and the number 3 as the female vibration we can see how “The Powers That Be” are upsetting the balance and harmony of the 3rd dimension that we live in.

Love
&
Peace

[kerravon]

Fantastic info from mcmenek1 on the 33rd death penalty.

The original map of the Seattle ley lines can be located here:

http://geo.org/qa.htm

I've not actually visited the locations myself, but I found all the masonic lodges in the Seattle area from googling "Seattle Masonic Lodges", it's the first link.

I then looked up the address on google maps and plotted it as a green dot on the ley lines map.


If anyone is up to the challenge, I think it would be a great idea if everyone with ley lines location info could channel this to an individual who could create an add-on for Google Earth, containing ley lines locations around the world. I think that would be a great project.

Convential science still denies that ley lines even exist, so no large scale projects have ever been conducted, so limited ley line maps are currently available.

The ley lines map of Glastonbury, England is a very interesting one:

http://www.celtic-inspiration.com/avalon/foto/leylijnentor.jpg

[limelady]

If anyone is up to the challenge, I think it would be a great idea if everyone with ley lines location info could channel this to an individual who could create an add-on for Google Earth, containing ley lines locations around the world. I think that would be a great project.

A Ley-Lines overlay for Google Earth is a fantastic idea Kerrvon. Quite an undertaking, but a very well worthwhile one. The Ley-Lines have generated a lot of interest in recent years, so I'm sure it would be well received.

Is anyone up to taking this on?

[kerravon]

Not sure if mcmenek1's info on the 33rd death penality is 100% accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_penalty_statutes_in_the_United_States. svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_Penalty_World_Map.png

Can we clarify, although the death penality is supported by most the US states, do the actual "executions" themselves take place in those states, or just in states on the 33rd latitude. Can anyone confirm this?

[lookfar]

Some very interesting info here.

I've wanted to find out where the leylines are around the world for a while now, apart from the obvious sacred sites. Interesting that they've got lodges on them too & also keeping the leyline information under wraps.

It'd be great to see this if it is available in any way...

[mcmenek1]

Not sure if mcmenek1's info on the 33rd death penalty is 100% accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_penalty_statutes_in_the_United_States. svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_Penalty_World_Map.png

Can we clarify, although the death penalty is supported by most the US states, do the actual "executions" themselves take place in those states, or just in states on the 33rd latitude. Can anyone confirm this?

Hi kerravon,

It looks as though the status of some countries along the 33rd parallel has changed with regard to the death penalty although none of the countries on the 33rd parallel appear to have abolished it completely....... I’m not sure how old the source link where I got the info. is........ here is a good link which shows exactly where each country stands with regard to the death penalty.

http://www.handsoffcain.info/bancadati/index.php?tipotema=arg&idtema=9000595

Here is a good link which answers your question about the states that do the actual executions.....

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=8&did=186

Love
&
Peace

[kerravon]

Thanks for the links, i'll check those out.

It certainly appears that the "bulk" of the executions take place around the 33rd degree latitude, which would make perfect sense for them to extract the negative energy involved.

I'm sure that the execution chambers are also built right on top of ley line intersections.

[thoth]

I am surprised you guys never came across this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172
This 1st thread raises some really interesting questions.

Meridian is also a name used for ley lines, like a code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian

[kerravon]

A Meridian is basically just a Longitude, it's not really anything to due with ley lines or energy vortexes.

Washington DC was deliberatly built slap-bang on the 77th Meridian W, which is also known as "God's Longitude". There's even Meridian Hill in Washington DC that sits right on this mark.

[thoth]

A Meridian is basically just a Longitude, it's not really anything to due with ley lines or energy vortexes.
.

I have to disagree with you and agree with. Meridians are points of energy, just as they are in the human body, the earth is not any different. You haven't looked into it hard enough or you would not say these things. The streets named meridian particularly carry the energy. Check out the layout of streets that are called Meridian or businesses with the name Meridian. I got this on lock basically.

[lookfar]

I have to disagree with you and agree with. Meridians are points of energy, just as they are in the human body, the earth is not any different. You haven't looked into it hard enough or you would not say these things. The streets named meridian particularly carry the energy. Check out the layout of streest that are called Meridian or businesses with the name Meridian. I got this on lock basically.

I don't know much about them, but would it would make perfect sense thoth. They would have to be points of some kind of energy or else the PTB wouldn't be using them for their dodgy energy manipulation.

[thoth]

I don't know much about them, but would it would make perfect sense thoth. They would have to be points of some kind of energy or else the PTB wouldn't be using them for their dodgy energy manipulation.

Have you really looked at this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172

[lookfar]

Have you really looked at this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172

Only fleetingly, but am looking now, thanks :-)

[ashyr]

sorry didnt mean to sound offensive. but yeah i see your point now.

um who made that picture with the RED DOTS conecting all the 33'ds and 3 and 333's aganist all the ley lines and the death penalty?

also can u post a link to that IMAGE again thanks..

btw thanks to the thread starter, havnt thanked him yet. cher

[morgaine]

While vacationing in California's gold country, I visited just about every town on the map.

This is what I noted: The first building built in each town I visited was either a Mason's Lodge or a brothel.

Nowdays, of course, the first building built would be a Starbucks.

Anyway, it seemed such a profound thing, and actually kind of creepy after about the first five towns I visited.

[solarstrom]

very interesting post.http://sunrent.de/smileynormal.ico

[elysiansix]

A Ley Lines survey was done of Seattle, Washington, USA in the late 80's. Attached is a picture of those results. The green dots on the map are where I looked up and plotted all the Masonic lodges in the Seattle area, and as you can see all the lodges are deliberatly placed on the lines, or intersections of the lines.

So every time a Masonic lodge is built, or catherdral, or anything of significance to the Illuminati, they are built upon the lines, or intersecting lines, either to draw energy from or allow their energy to flow out, or both.

My question is, how do masons know where they are? The Seattle survey was done over years using dowsing rods, but when was the last time you bumped into a mason with dowsing rods looking for a new location to build? So i'm thinking they must have some other way, or technology, or means to locate, or even see them (such as in the Alfred Watkins story).

Anyone got any suggestions on this?


Thousands of years ago (mythology) ancient civilisations (Egypt, Greece, Arabian ie Middle East) lived in peace with their 'brethren' and their first rule was Alchemy and Philosophy (called a different name). They had worked out how to apply all Sacred disciplines of astral travel, sounds and light to their body-mind systems and knew that their physical bodies were an extension of their HIGHEST and LIGHTEST superintelligent, superconscious minds: the God/Goddess state that exists in ALL HUMAN BEINGS.
They knew the earth was structured like a crystal and that there ws immense power at the junctures of the 'ley lines' - the power points of the Globe and elsewhere that's not a ley line juncture but powerful for other reasons.
This knowledge was shared amongst everyone (their education) and they all knew that EXPERIENCE and development of all their character facets (the good ones) were the only way to achieve king/queen i.e. god/goddess status within themselves.
All this info is now kept hidden from all people (unless one of the Zionists) and people know NOTHING about the effects of dumping chemicals via food/drink or bad drugs in their bodies - all of which have a major, major fallout on the psychological, cognitive and co-ordination chambers of the human body.
This was wot the Crusades were all about - stealing the Truths and simplicity of Alchemy and magic from the mediterranean countries and North Africa and keeping it hidden.
Hence all 'Christian' (a human construct, not magic or sacred) buildings and centres of worship were built at these points - make people think it wos the church wot made them feel magical power - not the (real) earth's magical and magnetic power.

Best way to control people is by repressing their hidden spiritual/sacred and Metaphysical twins.

Make sure they remain in one place and have to earn money for the duration of their lives: use money and outer sense pleasures as the noose around their necks to ensure former.

Monty Python and the Holy Grail??? This is what that's about.

[edelweiss]

Are there any experts on LEY LINES on this forum?

I would like to know whether these monuments and buildings might be erected on LEY LINES:


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165284

[whale]

of course they put all their buildings on ley lines, then say via the media that they are, I quote: 'an invention of the romantics'. Yeah right!

All the old pagan sites would have been on energy lines, crossing points probably like stonehenge, which is why they put all the churches on them

as to masons not being dowsers--most top masons will be reptoids and they would be able to feel the lines like sensitives, and their network has been going for 5,000 years since at least the time of Horus. My dowser said they found Egyptian pendulums and/or sandals in North Wales, he even saw a party of Chinese dowsers up there, so there is a lot of knowledge about energy lines that they keep secret and the overt dowsing community never get any publicity. And that is tightly controlled by them, one woman on the board of the Society of Dowsers 'used' to be MI6, so I learnt from bitter experience.

They, the darkside, are active in debunking dowsing as well http://www.whale.to/a/debunking_dowsing.html he looks like a spook at the very least, reptoid more like. Health fraud movement, one of his co conspirators who used, still does, spend all his time attacking vax critics, I saw him on TV debunking a UFO sighting, which tells a story.

with a pendulum you can access Universal Knowledge if you are gifted. One US dowser found the position of all their nuclear subs, so they took his passport away! Malcom Rae was an example, he died afore his time, no doubt taken out.

Buck house is on one which is about 20 yards wide. I wouldn't want to be on one as they would kill you in about 4 years. But with reptoids they probably get off on the energy like cats. They then can do all their satanic rituals that use the energy and make it horrible, I think they used to or still do, sacrifice people on them to that end. Stonehenge feels real creepy to me which suggests that.

Interesting that map. ley lines are usually dead straight a la Watkins, he did all that in my county, Hereford. But you get wiggly one too. I found one locally with a dowser and then years later a sensitive found it too so it is definately there, I even burnt my ass on it in my psychedelic days, anyway, it was bad feeling energy so we put an orgonite cloudbuster on it and it turned positive very quickly, under 5 mins.

That doswer found some hemlock in a jar at the point where an energy line came out the ground, so you can see what is going on but orgonite busts all that stuff.

[stewart edwards]

as to masons not being dowsers most top masons ...snip.... would be able to feel the lines like sensitives,Oh does that mean that I am a top mason:eek: Out of interest Whale what do you mean by "top mason"? (In case you dont know I was rejected by the masons - and according to some never to be allowed in).


one woman on the board of the Society of Dowsers 'used' to be MI6, so I learnt from bitter experience.Whale I am not doubting you here, just urging a little caution. I mean if you were "ex MI6" would you ever admit to it? From a personal and national security perspective it could be somewhat foolish.

with a pendulum you can access Universal Knowledge if you are gifted.You dont need a pendulum Whale. Just look for your inner flame of light. Find that and if you work hard lots will be revealed. If I can do it anyone can.

[nikolai burdy]

My question is, how do masons know where they are?
I'm guessing they don't because what a waste of time...? Dowsing rods are for nut jobs who believe in unicorns are you actually serious...?

The Seattle survey was done over years using dowsing rods, but when was the last time you bumped into a mason with dowsing rods looking for a new location to build?
You've probably never bumped into one as I'm guessing no sane person would do this hahaha. Or they have better things to do with their time? Or perhaps it's all rubbish these lines? Or that they don't care about your lines??? I could go on.

So i'm thinking they must have some other way, or technology, or means to locate, or even see them.
Maybe they don't have other means because this is made up rubbish.....
Why do you NEED them to have to do this???

[stewart edwards]

Nikolai Burdy

Have you ever:-

1. Felt someone looking at you, for you to turn around and find that they are?
2. Walked into a building where you immediately felt at peace or uncomfortable?
3. Wondered why so many people are drawn to spend their holidays at ancient sights across our globe?
4. Ever met someone for the first time and immediately take a dislike to them or feel uneasy when they entered the room.

If you have then the fundamental principle are the same as with ley lines.

Sometimes when I go for a walk, or in some cases a drive, some paths/roads just relax me/make me feel happy or by contrast somehow "dont seem quite right".

Now with regards to Stonehenge that does little for me. Avebury on the other hand does.

It may all appear to be nonsense to you, possibly because you are not sensitive enough to feel the energy. But just as a man who has slept with many a girl can be blown away when he crosses a street and bumps into "the one", you never know.

That all said I dont get the rods etc things either. My hands tend to tingle, or I get a feeling in my chest.

[whale]

Oh does that mean that I am a top mason:eek: Out of interest Whale what do you mean by "top mason"? (In case you dont know I was rejected by the masons - and according to some never to be allowed in). Whale I am not doubting you here, just urging a little caution. I mean if you were "ex MI6" would you ever admit to it? From a personal and national security perspective it could be somewhat foolish.

Good man, you passed the test! Top would be 33 degree and above, that seems to be the cutoff point from good to evil (satanism)

re MI6, yes it was strange but she admitted she was ex to a friend of mine, maybe she thought we are naive. But plenty of people admit to being MI6 from memory, Tomlison, Shyler eg

You dont need a pendulum Whale. Just look for your inner flame of light. Find that and if you work hard lots will be revealed. If I can do it anyone can.[/QUOTE]

I am quite sesitive now but it is a gift, dowsing or feeling energy, and not many people have it or can get it, and that is just the way it is, if I was that way I'd be doing that instead of what I do now. I have seen things on psychedelics in the past, which suits me fine. I may get that one day in the future, find it hard to meditate at the moment, kids, the spiritual war etc

[whale]

I'm guessing they don't because what a waste of time...? Dowsing rods are for nut jobs who believe in unicorns are you actually serious...? You've probably never bumped into one as I'm guessing no sane person would do this hahaha. Or they have better things to do with their time? Or perhaps it's all rubbish these lines? Or that they don't care about your lines??? I could go on. Maybe they don't have other means because this is made up rubbish.....Why do you NEED them to have to do this???

Go on, no, that was enough! I guess you think human meridians are rubbish as well? There is a vast amount of documented and field evidence they exist, eg some german scientists proved it http://www.whale.to/v/tests_er.html

and two Austrian towns employed a dowser before the second war, or first, forget, where they got him to dowse out the lines. they then looked at cancer records and all the deaths were on the lines. That was municipal government. Book called earth currents http://www.whale.to/a/ley_b.html

and so on. Suppressing dowsing and earth energy knowledge is just suppressing spirituality in effect.

I burnt my ass on one and if you follow a dower or sensitive (or psychic) around they will show you the lines INDEPENDENT of each other.

the French used to put people on ley crossing points as punishment, perhaps you should try that

re dowsing society, it has obviously been taken over by snakes as I have yet to find any research on placement of building on ley lines, and my dowser, coincidently :0), died a month or so after I sent him some orgonite

[stewart edwards]

Good man, you passed the test!Whooo Hoooo now where is the beer!:D Oh I forgot I dont really like beer that much.:(


Top would be 33 degree and above, that seems to be the cutoff point from good to evil (satanism)Ok. I have only knowingly met one 33rd, though I suspect that I know/met/interacted with a handful. The higher ranking masons that I have personally met have mostly been kind, wise, gentle and esotericly aware in a good way. But this is in England where it would be somewhat difficult for most masons to get there, even if they were inclined to do so.

re MI6, yes it was strange but she admitted she was ex to a friend of mine, maybe she thought we are naive. But plenty of people admit to being MI6 from memory, Tomlison, Shyler egTrue Whale I had forgotten about them. I simply cant fathom why people would admit to it if it was true though. I mean you could go on holiday to many a country and find yourself in a torture chamber to extract what you know. Anyone who posts anything on the internet or via email is I understand pretty much easily identifable by anyone who needs to know (including foreign security agencies), technologically it is easy for everything your computer sends is coded. And if you post from work or home then finding out who you are is easy. If you do it from a public computer it would take more effort but if it is a place with cctv and log in procedures (even signing a book in a library) then with effort it would not be that difficult for an agent of XYZland to find out who someone who claims to be "ex MI6" really is. The average man in the street couldnt do it, and governments may be tied by date protection laws etc, but security services spying on each other is a different kettle of fish.


I am quite sesitive now but it is a gift, dowsing or feeling energy, and not many people have it or can get it, and that is just the way it is,So some have said to me. I just stumbled across it. Hence it just seems natural to me. It has been fun exploring it. I get the best results with some 18th Dynasty Egyptian stuff that can send my body alight, but only if I am completely relaxed. Stress seems to make me insensitive to it all. Which is why I sometimes wonder about:-

1. The poop that has hit me in life - was any of it intentional to hinder my personal progress.
2. Is the current increasing stressfulness of everyones lifes (job insecurity, weaker marriages, debts, etc etc) coincidence at a time that more and more people with insight appear to be being born?

if I was that way I'd be doing that instead of what I do now.Doing what precisely? If you want to walk the side of the light you arent easily going to make much money from it, if any. And if you walk the middle path you will get tied up with issues of responsibility and again not make much money if any. Or would you opt for the dark side Whale?

I have seen things on psychedelics in the past, which suits me fine. I may get that one day in the future, find it hard to meditate at the moment, kids, the spiritual war etcBe the tortosie not the hare. Keep of the drugs.

[rhydra]

Ley Lines were often used to transport salt around the country, salt is not only just for putting on your food, you need it to keep alive. We all came from the sea, we produce salt, we keep a bit of the sea inside us.

Also, salt is very important in esoteria notably in the process of sealing covenants and, so it is said, some of the more powerful forms of magick.

[edelweiss]

Ley Lines were often used to transport salt around the country, salt is not only just for putting on your food, you need it to keep alive. We all came from the sea, we produce salt, we keep a bit of the sea inside us.

Also, salt is very important in esoteria notably in the process of sealing covenants and, so it is said, some of the more powerful forms of magick.

Thanks for this hint. Salt is perfect for cleansing everything inside and out. Salt neutralises "adhesives" of all kinds.

[nikolai burdy]

Nikolai Burdy

Have you ever:-

1. Felt someone looking at you, for you to turn around and find that they are? No...?

2. Walked into a building where you immediately felt at peace or uncomfortable? That wouldn't be spirtual more to do with the surroundings and not these ley lines.

3. Wondered why so many people are drawn to spend their holidays at ancient sights across our globe? That would be to do with them being tourist sights as we are all and myself included interested in our own past and seeing certain landmarks. Not because of them being spiritual sights but because they are landmarks and places of interest.

4. Ever met someone for the first time and immediately take a dislike to them or feel uneasy when they entered the room. I've met people I don't like thats for sure, but that's because of their attitude or behaviour, I don't and wouldn't put that down to their aura or ley lines, spirituality etc.

If you have then the fundamental principle are the same as with ley lines. How? So if I will kid myself and associate coincidence with a high spiritual meaning then I can kid myself with this unfounded psydo science too...?

Sometimes when I go for a walk, or in some cases a drive, some paths/roads just relax me/make me feel happy or by contrast somehow "dont seem quite right". Yes I prefer country roads too motor ways too but that's not a surprise surely?

Now with regards to Stonehenge that does little for me. Avebury on the other hand does. We all have our own preferences :)

It may all appear to be nonsense to you, possibly because you are not sensitive enough to feel the energy. But just as a man who has slept with many a girl can be blown away when he crosses a street and bumps into "the one", you never know. I see what your saying and please don't take the way I have commented the wrong way I do not mean to be rude but I find all of this convenient and unfounded. As an atheist I am based on fact and not a desire to have to prove an urge for something more.

[nikolai burdy]

Go on, no, that was enough! I guess you think human meridians are rubbish as well? Erm....yes.:)

There is a vast amount of documented and field evidence they exist, eg some german scientists proved it http://www.whale.to/v/tests_er.html Is there really "Vast" amount of "evidence"? Is it really "proven"? I will take a look at your link but I doubt it treuley is evidence. Otherwise these lines etc would be known as "facts".

and two Austrian towns employed a dowser before the second war, or first, forget, where they got him to dowse out the lines. they then looked at cancer records and all the deaths were on the lines. That was municipal government. Book called earth currents http://www.whale.to/a/ley_b.html Oh well thats it then, it must be true!

and so on. Suppressing dowsing and earth energy knowledge is just suppressing spirituality in effect. It is not scientifically proven and if you believe this then you are only fooling yourself which is a shame. But you will believe whatever you want and I can't and haven't got the effort to change your mind. What would be the point.

I burnt my ass on one and if you follow a dower or sensitive (or psychic) around they will show you the lines INDEPENDENT of each other. Wow really! Again that's amazing and proof on it's own....?

the French used to put people on ley crossing points as punishment, perhaps you should try that Meaning?

re dowsing society, it has obviously been taken over by snakes as I have yet to find any research on placement of building on ley lines, and my dowser, coincidently :0), died a month or so after I sent him some orgonite I'm losing the will to............

[whale]

Erm....yes.:) I'm losing the will to............

Great! Now f off and die then ;)

no offence mind :)

[rhydra]

Thanks for this hint. Salt is perfect for cleansing everything inside and out. Salt neutralises "adhesives" of all kinds.

Salt is also good at neutralising fluoride, a cause of the calcification of the pineal gland, your doorway to the upper consciousness levels. It may be good reason that they want to hide references to salt.

Also, the major governments are trying to reduce the salt intake of people, people used to eat salted everything, it was a good preservative, now it is public enemy number one, the cause of all your ills. I wonder if there is some connection to that as well.

[edelweiss]

In Germany it is not easy to get non-iodised salt or bread and other food. The rulers claim that we need SYNTHETIC iodine in order not to get goitres. Insane killers.

[whale]

In Germany it is not easy to get non-iodised salt or bread and other food. The rulers claim that we need SYNTHETIC iodine in order not to get goitres. Insane killers.

'Convincing humans to artificially iodize salt is a great feat of the Ahrimanic beings. He (the human) changes his ability to know his own self.........Fluoride (and iodine and chlorine) is a halogen. Halogens make it simpler for beings to gain access to the human self and possess it.' p 130 Nature Spirits and What They Say: Interviews with Verena Stael Von Holstein by Wolfgang Weirauch