Is The Bank of England Private or State Owned?

[anonymousoneuk]

According to wikipedia it is state-owned:

he Bank of England (formally the Governor and Company of the Bank of England) is a state-owned institution[1] and the central bank of the United Kingdom. It was established in 1694 to act as the English Government's banker, and to this day it still acts as the banker for the UK Government.

Bank of England - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this true?

[zero1]

Bit iffy, unclear.

This chart shows major shareholders of BOE and Fed Res, plus major American banks -

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
______________________________________
| |
| J. Henry Schroder
| Banking | Corp.
| |
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
| | |
| | |
Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
| | --------------------------
| | | |
| | | |
Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
- ------------------------- | | |
| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
_____________|_______________/ |
| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
| | |
| | |
Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
|||||||| |
______National City Bank N. Y. |
| | |
| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
| | \
| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
| | \
| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
| |
| |
Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
- ----------------------------------------- |
| /
James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
|
|
Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
- -------------------------------------------
J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
- ------------------------------------------
James Stillman
William Rockefeller
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
- ---------------------------------------
George F. Baker

Source is HERE (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/ownership_federal_reserve.htm)

Elsewhere, there is a 1946 Act which allegedly offered ownership to the Public -

Check this PDF (http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/legislation/1946act.pdf)

Which would mean it's run by the National Treasury, which is owned I think by - THE QUEEN!

http://files.myopera.com/BringBaka/albums/28008/thumbs/Queen%20Elizabeth%20II.jpg_thumb.jpg

[baron von lotsov]

I believe it is officially true but also it is one of the world's most influential banks and has historical connections to the Federal Reserve. This means that the inner workings of it are likely to be shrouded in much secrecy. Also it is really the main institution of the City of London and the City of London is not part of the state as such, it is an independent state like the Vatican City is. So I guess a kind of swinging doors mechanism is in place where on paper it is one thing but it is independent in other ways. For example one of the first things Blair did when he got in was to allow it to set interest rates instead of the elected party, and more of this independence is coming on line soon apparently. They have this thing called the Monetary Policy Committee that does all the talking stuff.

[anonymousoneuk]

I believe it is officially true but also it is one of the world's most influential banks and has historical connections to the Federal Reserve. This means that the inner workings of it are likely to be shrouded in much secrecy. Also it is really the main institution of the City of London and the City of London is not part of the state as such, it is an independent state like the Vatican City is. So I guess a kind of swinging doors mechanism is in place where on paper it is one thing but it is independent in other ways. For example one of the first things Blair did when he got in was to allow it to set interest rates instead of the elected party, and more of this independence is coming on line soon apparently. They have this thing called the Monetary Policy Committee that does all the talking stuff.

Where do the profits go?

A lot of people say that banks like the federal reserve are taking people for money because they are privately owned, so they get interest on currency.

I don't think that who owns the bank is important, however, but who controls it, however, I'm just curious where the profits go and who legally owns the BoE.

If there is any modern direct connection to known elite conspirators.

Thanks and Peace

[danster82]

its national it borrows from other banks

read this

http://www.prosperityuk.com/prosperity/articles/boe1.html

[1694]

OK lets use some truths we all know to get an idea:
-The bank of england sets interest rates: WE here this phrase all the time, BOE cut rates on Thursday for example.
-What does this mean? 2 Things.
1) This is the rate it costs commercial banks to borrow from the BOE
2) This is the rate banks earn if they lend to the BOE

Today, operating as it does as the bankers' bank, it is to the commercial banks (ie the High Street banks) what the commercial banks are to the public.

Just as we may deposit money with commercial banks, so commercial banks in turn keep deposits with the Bank of England. The amount of cash that a commercial bank can buy up from the Bank of England to meet its customers' cash withdrawals is limited to the amount of deposits it has in its account at the Bank of England and/or what it can borrow from the Bank of England or from other banks.

Commercial banks borrow from the Bank of England in exactly the same way that individuals and businesses borrow from commercial banks. In theory the BOE could then use commercial bank deposit and fractional reserve 9 times this amount, and lend it out to the other commercial banks. It could do that today and solve the liquidity crisis. It could also then collect interest on those loans and make a profit which could then be spent on the people. Ask yourself why it isn't doing this.

Since nationalisation major player in the lending/money creation market. Its annual accounts reveal that its loans and profits are only a fraction of those of a major commercial bank such as Barclays, and it only holds a very small amount of government stocks, so it is no longer really lending to government either -- that function has largely passed to the merchant banks. Again ask yourself why this is the case.

The answere:

Although owned by the state, the bank is largely controlled and run by those from the world of commercial banking and conventional economics. The members of the Court of Directors, who set policy and oversee its functions, are drawn almost entirely from the world of banks, insurance, economists and big business.

[baron von lotsov]

The City of London in other words, or what is known as the 'City of London Corporation'. They do their rituals in Burnham Beaches by the way. I mean they actually own Burnham Beaches!

Burnham Beeches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[1694]

The City of London in other words, or what is known as the 'City of London Corporation'. They do their rituals in Burnham Beaches by the way. I mean they actually own Burnham Beaches!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnham_Beeches

Thaks for the heads up, I might go for a hike and see what it's all about.

[1694]

Small point of interest. www.bankofengland.co.uk not .gov.uk!

[anonymousoneuk]

Small point of interest. www.bankofengland.co.uk not .gov.uk!

Link directs to .com FYI not .co.uk.

Thanks for all the info 1694.

Peace :)

[1694]

Thaks for the heads up, I might go for a hike and see what it's all about.

Link directs to .com FYI not .co.uk.

Thanks for all the info 1694.

Peace :)

Huh, sorry I am confused http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/

If you are refering to the link in my sig is a different website about monetary reform that has inspired and educated me.

[baron von lotsov]

Where do the profits go?


A lot goes into social engineering. Stuff like advertising and running media bullshit.

[1694]

A lot goes into social engineering. Stuff like advertising and running media bullshit.

I would think it doesn't really make any. What little money it does make goes to the gilt holders who get there 12% annually.

They have even outsourced the minting operation to a rothschild owned company so atleast part of the profits from that are lost into private hands.

It is now just a smoke screen.

[anonymousoneuk]

I would think it doesn't really make any. What little money it does make goes to the gilt holders who get there 12% annually.

They have even outsourced the minting operation to a rothschild owned company so atleast part of the profits from that are lost into private hands.

It is now just a smoke screen.

Hey 1694, do you have anymore information on these gilts?

What is a gilt?

Is this officially documented anywhere or is there any solid evidence?

Thanks and Peace :)

[1694]

A gilt, is just a bond that is considered "gold edged" as it is the most secure it can be. In this example the repayments promised are secured against the entire productive efforts of Britain. Check wiki for a general gilt definition.

On the gilts I don't know that I have an "official" source to hand, and it's late will come back to this for you

You can read the publicly displayed boe info here:
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/history/index2.htm

and here http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/history/major_developments.htm

You could have a google around on BOE and gilts.

there is some info here: http://www.prosperityuk.com/prosperity/articles/boe1.html

Someone else on this forum gave the 12% value.

Don't know if this is any use to you but it looked interesting, I hvenet read it yet : http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/fsr/2005/sovbond.pdf

[baron von lotsov]

I would think it doesn't really make any. What little money it does make goes to the gilt holders who get there 12% annually.

They have even outsourced the minting operation to a rothschild owned company so atleast part of the profits from that are lost into private hands.

It is now just a smoke screen.

It's far more interconnected than they make out. It's a highly complex machine, and a lot of corporations are in on the racket. Every time you see one doing something utterly senseless in terms of profitability, expect it to be a case of them doing it with money from elsewhere.

[1694]

Yep what I believe is that as the treasury holds the shares if the BOE made profits they would be paid in dividens to the treasury who could use those for the publics benefit.

Therefore the BOE doesn't make and "profts." All the money made leaks out before it gets to the treasury.

[oiram]

CHART OF WHO OWNSTHE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM
http://www.rumormillnews.com/images/logocafepress.gif
http://www.rumormillnews.com/WHO_OWNS_FED.htmFederal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence
Published 1976

Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks. Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/WHO_OWNS_FED.htm
Here are some big boys Names!
Chart of who "owns" the Federal Reserve
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html
http://www.save-a-patriot.org/bbs/bbs.html

Directors of Federal Reserve Banks and Branches
http://www.federalreserve.gov/genera...rs/default.cfm

Who controls Bernankito?
http://mapper.nndb.com/start/?id=94165

A Note To a Potential Congressman
"Federal Reserve act of 1913" thereby establishing a private bank
that would centrally control all other banks and create a de facto bank monopoly.
http://2cents.dailyreckoning.com/viewtopic.php?t=36389

Screaming in a Burning Theater: Zero Bank Reserves
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/30/01617/5440/126/615177

[ourkid]

Is the Royal Bank of Scotland the same?

I always guessed the Royal Bank of Scotland was owned by Royalty so less likely to be taken over.

I only have like £20 in the bank anyway

[the7thdr]

I believe it is officially true but also it is one of the world's most influential banks and has historical connections to the Federal Reserve. This means that the inner workings of it are likely to be shrouded in much secrecy. Also it is really the main institution of the City of London and the City of London is not part of the state as such, it is an independent state like the Vatican City is. So I guess a kind of swinging doors mechanism is in place where on paper it is one thing but it is independent in other ways. For example one of the first things Blair did when he got in was to allow it to set interest rates instead of the elected party, and more of this independence is coming on line soon apparently. They have this thing called the Monetary Policy Committee that does all the talking stuff.

The square mile is nothing like the Vatican city. It is not an independent state. It is however a very strange local council that manages it's own police force and has many other strange rules not to be found in any other English council.

[the7thdr]

According to wikipedia it is state-owned:

he Bank of England (formally the Governor and Company of the Bank of England) is a state-owned institution[1] and the central bank of the United Kingdom. It was established in 1694 to act as the English Government's banker, and to this day it still acts as the banker for the UK Government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England

Is this true?

The BoE - despite changes by the Blair government, is nothing like the FED and is owned by the "country" answerable to Parliament:

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/parliament/index.htm

[the7thdr]

Bit iffy, unclear.

This chart shows major shareholders of BOE and Fed Res, plus major American banks -

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
______________________________________
| |
| J. Henry Schroder
| Banking | Corp.
| |
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
| | |
| | |
Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
| | --------------------------
| | | |
| | | |
Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
- ------------------------- | | |
| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
_____________|_______________/ |
| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
| | |
| | |
Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
|||||||| |
______National City Bank N. Y. |
| | |
| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
| | \
| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
| | \
| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
| |
| |
Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
- ----------------------------------------- |
| /
James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
|
|
Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
- -------------------------------------------
J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
- ------------------------------------------
James Stillman
William Rockefeller
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
- ---------------------------------------
George F. Baker

Source is HERE (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/ownership_federal_reserve.htm)

Elsewhere, there is a 1946 Act which allegedly offered ownership to the Public -

Check this PDF (http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/legislation/1946act.pdf)

Which would mean it's run by the National Treasury, which is owned I think by - THE QUEEN!

http://files.myopera.com/BringBaka/albums/28008/thumbs/Queen%20Elizabeth%20II.jpg_thumb.jpg

That chart is nonsense; N.M. Rothschild is not a shareholder in the BoE. It is simple to confirm this, simple check their annual report available from their website.

Not everything is a Jewish conspiracy

Shalom

[eternal_spirit]

That chart is nonsense; N.M. Rothschild is not a shareholder in the BoE. It is simple to confirm this, simple check their annual report available from their website.

Not everything is a Jewish conspiracy

Shalom

As Mork would say Shazbatz nan u nan u, maybe you know what it means (sounds like a Jewish joke) on us shazbatz Goy.

[the7thdr]

As Mork would say Shazbatz nan u nan u, maybe you know what it means (sounds like a Jewish joke) on us shazbatz Goy.

So, that eternal_spirit of yours stretches to all of humanity; unless it's Jewish?
How spiritual of you.

And did you mean Shabbes goy?

Shalom

[lizzy]

The BoE - despite changes by the Blair government, is nothing like the FED and is owned by the "country" answerable to Parliament:

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/parliament/index.htm

LOL...

edit........zero 1 just gave you a correct list of shareholers...why do you refute these basic facts?

these people are the shadow / parellel goverance !!!

[the7thdr]

LOL....and who do they asnwer too......I'd say any Rothchilde at least.

And your proof would be? Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative but... Why not a member of the Thomas Sutherland family? Or Michael Geoghegan? Or Sir John Bond? Or Sir Win Bischoff? Or Sir Win Bischoff? Or Vikram Pandit? Or the Pension fund that manages your pension?

[the7thdr]

LOL...

zero 1 just gave you a correct list of shareholers...why do you refute these basic facts?

No Zero did not. I said so in my reply. :) Zero gave a chart of some website on the net that no doubt thinks all Jews are Lizard People. Which oddly, the founder of this website does not.

The "basic facts" as based in reality:

Governance

The current governance and accountability framework is set by the 1998 Bank of England Act, which provides for a Court of Directors, a Committee of Non-executive Directors within Court, and a Monetary Policy Committee.

The Court of Directors

Court consists of the Governor, two Deputy Governors and 16 Directors. The Directors are all non-executive. The Governors are appointed by the Crown for five years and the Directors for three years.

Under the Act, the responsibilities of Court are to manage the Bank's affairs, other than the formulation of monetary policy, which is the responsibility of the Monetary Policy Committee. Court's responsibilities include determining the Bank's objectives and strategy, and ensuring the effective discharge of the Bank's functions and the most efficient use of the Bank's resources.

Members of Court have been indemnified by the Bank against personal civil liability arising out of the carrying out or purported carrying out of their functions, provided they have acted honestly and in good faith and have not acted recklessly. These indemnities were granted in 2000 and approved by HM Treasury in accordance with the practice of the Government in relation to board members of Non-Departmental Public Bodies.

The Monetary Policy Committee (MPC)

The Bank of England Act establishes the MPC as a Committee of the Bank, subject to the oversight of NedCo, and sets a framework for its operations. Under the Act, the Bank's objectives in relation to monetary policy are to maintain price stability and, subject to that, to support the Government's economic policies, including its objectives for growth and employment. At least once a year, the Government specifies the price stability target and its growth and employment objectives. The MPC must meet at least monthly; its members comprise the Governor and Deputy Governors, two of the Bank's Executive Directors and four members appointed by the Chancellor. In June 2008 the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced that the Government will advertise future vacancies for the Governor and Deputy Governors of the Bank of England and also for external members of the MPC. At the same time the Bank of England announced that it intends to advertise externally the executive appointments to the MPC that are its responsibility - Executive Director for Monetary Analysis and Statistics and Executive Director, Markets - when they become vacant in future.

NedCo

The Act provides for a Committee of Court ('NedCo') consisting of all the Non-executive Directors, with a chairman designated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The chairman of NedCo is also Deputy Chairman of Court. NedCo has responsibilities for reviewing the Bank's performance in relation to its objectives and strategy, and monitoring the extent to which the Bank's financial management objectives are met. NedCo is also responsible for reviewing the procedures of the MPC, and in particular whether the Committee has collected the regional, sectoral and other information necessary for formulating monetary policy. Other functions of NedCo - in which it is supported by the Audit and Remuneration Committees - include reviewing the Bank's internal controls and determining the Governor's and Deputy Governors' remuneration and the terms and conditions of the service of the four members of the MPC appointed by the Chancellor. NedCo is required to make a report as part of the Bank's Annual Report.

Since 2004 the normal practice has been for the business of Court to be discussed in meetings of NedCo, with the Executive present. Formal decisions are then taken in Court. NedCo also holds meetings from time to time without the Executive, so that it can fulfil its reviewing role.

Audit Committee

The functions of the Audit Committee are to:

* Assist Court in meeting its responsibilities for an effective system of financial reporting, internal control and risk management.
* Receive reports from, and review the work of, the internal and external auditors. The Committee also considers and makes recommendations on the appointment of the external auditors, their independence and their fees.
* Review the annual financial statements prior to their submission to Court, including consideration of the appropriateness of the accounting policies and procedures adopted. The Committee reports its conclusions to Court.

The Committee normally meets four times a year.

Management structure

The executive management of the Bank lies with the Governors and Executive Directors.

The Bank's management structure, heads of function and the responsibilities of each area are described in more detail under Structure of the Bank area of the website.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/structure/index.htm

Management structure:

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/pdfs/structure.pdf


http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/chapter2.htm

[lizzy]

As Mork would say Shazbatz nan u nan u, maybe you know what it means (sounds like a Jewish joke) on us shazbatz Goy.

yup, been a 6000 yr long joke......:D

[lizzy]

And your proof would be? Sorry, I don't mean to be argumentative but... Why not a member of the Thomas Sutherland family? Or Michael Geoghegan? Or Sir John Bond? Or Sir Win Bischoff? Or Sir Win Bischoff? Or Vikram Pandit? Or the Pension fund that manages your pension?

The're all freemasons .....and who runs that show?

edit...add........you actually believe all that crap they give us? Oh man, sign yourself up for the UN.

[eternal_spirit]

So, that eternal_spirit of yours stretches to all of humanity; unless it's Jewish?
How spiritual of you.

Shalom

Respect where respect is due. And looks like I wont get any from you.

Jews brought usury and the banking scam wherever they went, Freemasonry's passwords, rituals etc came from Judaism. Stating the facts and some truths - the real reasons why the Jews where kicked out of Countries and persecuted.

The Queen maybe a Rothschild along with so many other Elite people.

Besides aren't we still paying back the loans to the Bankers from the second world war.

Rothschilds and co like wars, because they always profit when they fund both sides.

[the7thdr]

Respect where respect is due. And looks like I wont get any from you.

Jews brought usury and the banking scam wherever they went, Freemasonry's passwords, rituals etc came from Judaism. Stating the facts and some truths - the real reasons why the Jews where kicked out of Countries and persecuted.

The Queen maybe a Rothschild along with so many other Elite people.

Besides aren't we still paying back the loans to the Bankers from the second world war.

Rothschilds and co like wars, because they always profit when they fund both sides.

No need to show respect to me - I'm not Jewish you twat

"Jews brought usury and the banking scam wherever they went"
It was actually, the Templers that introduced banking to the world - they were christian by the way.

"Freemasonry's passwords, rituals etc came from Judaism"

Incorrect, while some do - but as freemasonry is strongly influenced by Christianity this should come as little surprise. Most of the Freemasonry symbolism is based on what they think are the mystery schools. As handed down, by the Greeks.

"The Queen maybe a Rothschild"
I can't wait to hear your evidence for this little gem

"
Besides aren't we still paying back the loans to the Bankers from the second world war"

No, they were paid back in the late 90's. By the way, that was to the Americans - not the "Jews"



Your history is piss poor also

[the7thdr]

The're all freemasons .....and who runs that show?

edit...add........you actually believe all that crap they give us? Oh man, sign yourself up for the UN.

Two things:

One: Still waiting for evidence rather then soundbites

Two: What crap would that be? Please expand

[lizzy]

Two things:

One: Still waiting for evidence rather then soundbites

Two: What crap would that be? Please expand


EXPAND....LOL.........

if you think the public owns the bank of england.....carry on but not with my time.

[the7thdr]

EXPAND....LOL.........

if you think the public owns the bank of england.....carry on but not with my time.

*Sigh* You have surely researched this so you should be able to supply some evidence rather than what sound like paranoid delusions? Should you not? Isn't that what Icke does? Researches and presents evidence?

[lizzy]

No need to show respect to me - I'm not Jewish you twat

"Jews brought usury and the banking scam wherever they went"
It was actually, the Templers that introduced banking to the world - they were christian by the way.

"Freemasonry's passwords, rituals etc came from Judaism"

Incorrect, while some do - but as freemasonry is strongly influenced by Christianity this should come as little surprise. Most of the Freemasonry symbolism is based on what they think are the mystery schools. As handed down, by the Greeks.

"The Queen maybe a Rothschild"
I can't wait to hear your evidence for this little gem

"
Besides aren't we still paying back the loans to the Bankers from the second world war"

No, they were paid back in the late 90's. By the way, that was to the Americans - not the "Jews"



Your history is piss poor also

usury is at the root of all physical control.........

as above , so below..... is at the root of all mind control.....

EXPAND your mind, go figure it out,.........LOL

[the7thdr]

usury is at the root of all physical control.........

as above , so below..... is at the root of all mind control.....

EXPAND your mind, go figure it out,.........LOL

I'm sorry, and that answers my questions how?

[lizzy]

*Sigh* You have surely researched this so you should be able to supply some evidence rather than what sound like paranoid delusions? Should you not? Isn't that what Icke does? Researches and presents evidence?


LOL....here we go........cart her off to the looney bin......:D :eek: :rolleyes:

If you think quoting from the Bank of England website is research...that's your problem.......

try reading icke's headlines if your too lazy to go anywhere else.

[the7thdr]

LOL....here we go........cart her off to the looney bin......:D :eek: :rolleyes:

If you think quoting from the Bank of England website is research...that's your problem.......

try reading icke's headlines if your too lazy to go anywhere else.

Is there an adult on the board that can help her out on this?

[lizzy]

Is there an adult on the board that can help her out on this?

Your behaviour is what I refer as deliberate BAITING......

run along little fella, run along.......

[the7thdr]

Your behaviour is what I refer as deliberate BAITING......

run along little fella, run along.......

No, it's known as asking you to prove something that you have said. It;s known as questioning. When you start to think for yourself you might understand the concept

Don't reply, unless you can answer the questions asked.

Ta

[lizzy]

No, it's known as asking you to prove something that you have said. It;s known as questioning. When you start to think for yourself you might understand the concept

Don't reply, unless you can answer the questions asked.

Ta

zero 1 gave you the answer ....you just did'nt like the TRUTH.

[eternal_spirit]

No need to show respect to me - I'm not Jewish you twat

"Jews brought usury and the banking scam wherever they went"
It was actually, the Templers that introduced banking to the world - they were christian by the way.

"Freemasonry's passwords, rituals etc came from Judaism"

Incorrect, while some do - but as freemasonry is strongly influenced by Christianity this should come as little surprise. Most of the Freemasonry symbolism is based on what they think are the mystery schools. As handed down, by the Greeks.

"The Queen maybe a Rothschild"
I can't wait to hear your evidence for this little gem

"
Besides aren't we still paying back the loans to the Bankers from the second world war"

No, they were paid back in the late 90's. By the way, that was to the Americans - not the "Jews"



Your history is piss poor also


Never said you where, are you hallucinating?
You deserve no respect because you have none for me and others here which you've just proved with your reply and I remember when you arrived on this forum you where full of abuse not a good intro for a newbie, which is also proof your intentions are not of good intent.

So you can quit with the double speak, accusations, name calling and games.

You're wrong about the Templars. Usury existed before that and it's true what I said about the Jews and Freemasonry, take away the Judaic parts including Kabbalah and what are you left with not a lot. Imagine if they removed Tubal Cain blimey. or Solomon, or even the hexagram aka Star of David aka Seal of Solomon! (Jewish Identity and the symbol for Zionism) to name a few.

The Greeks and the Orientals Mystery schools/religion came before Judaism but Judaism was invented to carry the Mystery schools religion out from Egypt/Babylon along with usury and the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible was probably originally written in Greek.


You mean the mostly Jewish American bankers....


You've not done much research don't you know most of the Royals are probably Jewish, and they have relatives around the World - Example USA Hillary Clinton, we know which banks will fund her campaigns and who'll influence American policies/politics and it wont be the Goys.

There's more than one version of HIStory and parts of history are constantly being re-written. But that obvioulsy escaped you, or maybe it didn't. You'd rather finish your post the same way as you began with an insult.

[the7thdr]

Never said you where, are you hallucinating?
You deserve no respect because you have none for me and others here which you've just proved with your reply and I remember when you arrived on this forum you where full of abuse not a good intro for a newbie, which is also proof your intentions are not of good intent.

So you can quit with the double speak, accusations, name calling and games.

You're wrong about the Templars. Usury existed before that and it's true what I said about the Jews and Freemasonry, take away the Judaic parts including Kabbalah and what are you left with not a lot. Imagine if they removed Tubal Cain blimey. or Solomon, or even the hexagram aka Star of David aka Seal of Solomon! (Jewish Identity and the symbol for Zionism) to name a few.

The Greeks and the Orientals Mystery schools/religion came before Judaism but Judaism was invented to carry the Mystery schools religion out from Egypt/Babylon along with usury and the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible was probably originally written in Greek.


You mean the mostly Jewish American bankers....


You've not done much research don't you know most of the Royals are probably Jewish, and they have relatives around the World - Example USA Hillary Clinton, we know which banks will fund her campaigns and who'll influence American policies/politics and it wont be the Goys.

There's more than one version of HIStory and parts of history are constantly being re-written. But that obvioulsy escaped you, or maybe it didn't. You'd rather finish your post the same way as you began with an insult.

Your version of history leads to one way to solve all the problems of the world doesn't it? Kill the Jews. They are responsible for everything and once you have eradicated them everything will be well with the world.

Just like the Germans were told in 1934? And you are "awake"? You think you see "reality" and are not being manipulated?

Who do you blame when you have gassed all the Jews? The Gypsies? the homosexuals? The mentally retarded? Who's nest in your brave new world? In your spiritual paradise?

Your a sick fuck and deserve to be the first on the FEMA train, to the FEMA prison where the lizard people, or whoever, will suck your eyes out while you polish your nice silver buttons on your nice uniform, your grasp of history still as shit poor as ever, been manipulated by the very people that do so because they realize you are a thick fuck.

Sig Hail!

I will be thinking about you later And I am sure you know what this means

93

[the7thdr]

zero 1 gave you the answer ....you just did'nt like the TRUTH.

If, as you say, the BoE has share holders, it must list the major ones. Provide me with, firstly with evidence that it has shareholders and second who those major ones are.

[lizzy]

Your version of history leads to one way to solve all the problems of the world doesn't it? Kill the Jews. They are responsible for everything and once you have eradicated them everything will be well with the world.

Just like the Germans were told in 1934? And you are "awake"? You think you see "reality" and are not being manipulated?

Who do you blame when you have gassed all the Jews? The Gypsies? the homosexuals? The mentally retarded? Who's nest in your brave new world? In your spiritual paradise?

Your a sick fuck and deserve to be the first on the FEMA train, to the FEMA prison where the lizard people, or whoever, will suck your eyes out while you polish your nice silver buttons on your nice uniform, your grasp of history still as shit poor as ever, been manipulated by the very people that do so because they realize you are a thick fuck.

Sig Hail!

I will be thinking about you later And I am sure you know what this means

93


German jewish bankers sold out Germany in BOTH wars.......the jewish people were set up with disinfo about the holocaust to get them to go to Isreal.

All this insulting spew just defends the biggest modern lie of the 20th century.....


NO - ONE DESERVES TO BE ON ANY FEMA TRAIN THAT DOES'NT HAVE A BILLION IN A BANK.......AND THEN TO GO AND GROW THEIR OWN FOOD AND CLEAN THEIR OWN TOILETS.

What you just said to eternal_spirit only demonstrated exactly who YOU really are........another nasty disinfo merchant.

[darketernal]

Can't we all just get along?

::group hug::

[1694]

Anyone starting reading here, lets get back on topic.

It explains how the BOE is nationalised and the shares owned by the treasury BUT the boe no longer works to make a profit. It is just a layer between government and private banks.

The bank of England was nationalized in 1946 and the shares are held by the treasury.

Today, operating as it does as the bankers' bank, it is to the commercial banks (ie the High Street banks) what the commercial banks are to the public.

Just as we may deposit money with commercial banks, so commercial banks in turn keep deposits with the Bank of England. The amount of cash that a commercial bank can buy up from the Bank of England to meet its customers' cash withdrawals is limited to the amount of deposits it has in its account at the Bank of England and/or what it can borrow from the Bank of England or from other banks.

Commercial banks borrow from the Bank of England in exactly the same way that individuals and businesses borrow from commercial banks. In theory the BOE could then use commercial bank deposit and fractional reserve 9 times this amount, and lend it out to the other commercial banks. It could do that today and solve the liquidity crisis. It could also then collect interest on those loans and make a profit which could then pay off the national debt and be spent by the government on public sector operations. Ask yourself why it isn't doing this.

Since nationalization the BOE is no longer a major player in the lending/money creation market. Its annual accounts reveal that its loans and profits are only a fraction of those of a major commercial bank such as Barclays, and it only holds a very small amount of government stocks, so it is no longer really lending to government either -- that function has largely passed to the merchant banks. Again ask yourself why this is the case.

Even the minting process is outsourced to another private bank owned company that takes the majority of the profits from this operation.

The answer:
Although owned by the state, the bank is largely controlled and run by those from the world of commercial banking and conventional economics. The members of the Court of Directors, who set policy and oversee its functions, are drawn almost entirely from the world of banks, insurance, economists and big business.

[eternal_spirit]

Your version of history leads to one way to solve all the problems of the world doesn't it? Kill the Jews. They are responsible for everything and once you have eradicated them everything will be well with the world.

Just like the Germans were told in 1934? And you are "awake"? You think you see "reality" and are not being manipulated?

Who do you blame when you have gassed all the Jews? The Gypsies? the homosexuals? The mentally retarded? Who's nest in your brave new world? In your spiritual paradise?

Your a sick fuck and deserve to be the first on the FEMA train, to the FEMA prison where the lizard people, or whoever, will suck your eyes out while you polish your nice silver buttons on your nice uniform, your grasp of history still as shit poor as ever, been manipulated by the very people that do so because they realize you are a thick fuck.

Sig Hail!

I will be thinking about you later And I am sure you know what this means

93


Well now that's like me saying you'd be the first to volunteer to round up all those Christians and throw them in the Gulag death camps like they did during the Jew created Communist/Bolshevik murderous revolution nearly all the top people where Jewish these murderers started in 1917 and carried on until the 1950's and killed tens of millions more none Jews than Hitler ever did kill Jews.

The Talmud is sick racist religious texts of Judaism which attacks and preaches and condones hate to none Jews, and some have lived and followed these rules for many centuries and still do. There's rules about usury to none Jews but rules saying - no usury to fellow Jews.

(wonder why Hollyweird don't make movies about the Bolshevik death camps) Oh Hollyweird is run and owned mostly by Jews, could that be why.

Then after the War the Communists and Americans rounded up the innocent German people of all ages and dumped them in death camps millions more Germans died this way than Jews ever did. (are those pictures from the Holocaust and death camps really German people, it's possible.)

And who funded the Bolsheviks and the War both sides you guessed it the mostly Jewish banking cabals. Who created Zionism, apartheid and Communism yes you guessed it!

Plus the Versailles treaty, the Balfour declaration - economic trade sanctions on Germany, who attacked Germany the Polish Jews slaughtered the German farming/country people and that's the real reason Hitler invaded Poland also the Germans where conned out of land, which means they couldn't trade via the Danzig Corridor via Poland, they had a choice starve, or wait for the Jewish run Bolsheviks to round them up and throw them in the death camps, of fight.

You've been lied to by Zionists and you've swallowed their propaganda and lies wholesale, or you're Jewish and have a chip on your shoulder and think anyone who exposes the racist Jews is a Nazi. Maybe you're a Ashkenazi Jew. Do you know the head of the Rabbis is know as the Nasi.

So there's your alternative history lesson. Now run along little one otherwise you'll be late for the synagogue of Satan meet up, we know your God is really Lucifer aka Yaweh aka Satan. Or do you prefer the Temple of Set aka Satan. Lilith Grotto- Lilith Aquino, Lilith the demon succubus straight out of Jewish folklore religious texts.

BTW Hitler may have been Rothschild, for the hard of thinking this means he was part Jewish. The lesser/lower class/caste Jews and Germans suffered but the Elite's profited by their deaths, nothing changes does it.

Yes I know I sussed you on your first day on the forum on the "is sun worship evil" thread I said "oh no another satanic troll" How did I know, I'll let you figure that one out (but you never will)

The number 93 is of great significance in the religion of Thelema - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, adapted from the philosophy of François Rabelais - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia by Aleister Crowley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in 1904 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with the writing of The Book of the Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_%28Thelema%29#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_%28Thelema%29#cite_note-IAO131-1) The central philosophy of Thelema is in the two phrases from Liber AL: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law, love under will." The two primary terms in these statements are Will and Love, respectively. In the Greek language, they are Thelema - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Will) and Agape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Love). Using the Greek technique of Isopsephy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, which applies a numerical value to letters, the letters of both of these words when added together equal 93:

[whiterain]

i guess what the world needs to know now is if absolutely everyone is in debt, even the biggest known financial institutions in the world, and the biggest country economies in the world, WHO THE FUCK IS ALL THIS DEBT OWED TO? i think we got a good idea but it is something every person should be aware of.

[blueyonder2012]

Bank of England = PRIVATE
FED RESERVE = PRIVATE

As David Icke has said and also see
See Eustace Mullins =researched from official archives: (7 x 10 minute parts) VERY INTERESTING

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2209342295571464429


Goverment Borrows the money from the BoE - fiat currency (monopoly).

Currently 4.5% interest.:eek:


;)

[eternal_spirit]

Nathan Mayer Rothschild (1777-1836, who once said: "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.") was the head of the bank in London, England, which was known as N. M. Rothschild and Sons (and has occupied the same premises since 1809, at 2 New Court, St. Swithin's Lane in London, near the Bank of England and Stock Exchange)

Werner Sombart, in his book The Jews and Modern Capitalism, said that from 1820 on, it was the "age of the Rothschild" and concluded that there was "only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild.

The Rothschilds operate out of an area in the heart of London, England, the financial district, which is known as 'The City', or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their main offices here, along with branch offices for 385 foreign banks, including 70 from the United States. It is here that you will find the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts), Fleet Street (home of publishing and newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange (to trade coffee, rubber, sugar and wool), and the London Metal Exchange. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.

Positioned on the north bank of the Thames River, covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the "wealthiest square mile on earth"), it has enjoyed special rights and privileges that enabled them to achieve a certain level of independence since 1191. In 1215, its citizens received a Charter from King John, granting them the right to annually elect a mayor (known as the Lord Mayor), a tradition that continues today.

Both E. C. Knuth, in his book Empire of the City, and Des Griffin, in his book Descent into Slavery, stated their belief that 'The City' is actually a sovereign state (much like the Vatican), and that since the establishment of the privately owned Bank of England in 1694, 'The City' has actually become the last word in the country's national affairs, with Prime Minister, Cabinet, and Parliament becoming only a front for the real power. According to Knuth, when the queen enters 'The City,' she is subservient to the Lord Mayor (under him, is a committee of 12-14 men, known as 'The Crown'), because this privately-owned corporation is not subject to the Queen, or the Parliament.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840

[the7thdr]

German jewish bankers sold out Germany in BOTH wars.......the jewish people were set up with disinfo about the holocaust to get them to go to Isreal.

All this insulting spew just defends the biggest modern lie of the 20th century.....


NO - ONE DESERVES TO BE ON ANY FEMA TRAIN THAT DOES'NT HAVE A BILLION IN A BANK.......AND THEN TO GO AND GROW THEIR OWN FOOD AND CLEAN THEIR OWN TOILETS.

What you just said to eternal_spirit only demonstrated exactly who YOU really are........another nasty disinfo merchant.

You don't need to worry, you won't go to a FEMA camp - you're to fucking thick for anyone to bother with. You can stay out and continue to spew the party line that we - the reptilian shape-shifters - make you believe in. We will keep throwing you scapegoats and burnt offerings and you will keep taking them and helping us along. Bless you my child.

93

[the7thdr]

Nathan Mayer Rothschild (1777-1836, who once said: "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.") was the head of the bank in London, England, which was known as N. M. Rothschild and Sons (and has occupied the same premises since 1809, at 2 New Court, St. Swithin's Lane in London, near the Bank of England and Stock Exchange)

Werner Sombart, in his book The Jews and Modern Capitalism, said that from 1820 on, it was the "age of the Rothschild" and concluded that there was "only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild.

The Rothschilds operate out of an area in the heart of London, England, the financial district, which is known as 'The City', or the 'Square Mile.' All major British banks have their main offices here, along with branch offices for 385 foreign banks, including 70 from the United States. It is here that you will find the Bank of England, the Stock Exchange, Lloyd's of London, the Baltic Exchange (shipping contracts), Fleet Street (home of publishing and newspaper interests), the London Commodity Exchange (to trade coffee, rubber, sugar and wool), and the London Metal Exchange. It is virtually the financial hub of the world.

Positioned on the north bank of the Thames River, covering an area of 677 acres or one square mile (known as the "wealthiest square mile on earth"), it has enjoyed special rights and privileges that enabled them to achieve a certain level of independence since 1191. In 1215, its citizens received a Charter from King John, granting them the right to annually elect a mayor (known as the Lord Mayor), a tradition that continues today.

Both E. C. Knuth, in his book Empire of the City, and Des Griffin, in his book Descent into Slavery, stated their belief that 'The City' is actually a sovereign state (much like the Vatican), and that since the establishment of the privately owned Bank of England in 1694, 'The City' has actually become the last word in the country's national affairs, with Prime Minister, Cabinet, and Parliament becoming only a front for the real power. According to Knuth, when the queen enters 'The City,' she is subservient to the Lord Mayor (under him, is a committee of 12-14 men, known as 'The Crown'), because this privately-owned corporation is not subject to the Queen, or the Parliament.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840

Creation of the Bank of England:
Not a Jewish Conspiracy

Our current banking system and method of issuing currency is the greatest manipulation and method of enslavement devised in our material world. This process was patterned on procedures developed in banks in Amsterdam and Hamburg, but also found in ancient Babylon. Later, English rulers and merchants used these same processes in creating the Bank of England in 1694. In addition, there was a philosophy introduced with the purpose of a debt in perpetuity for the citizens of England. A national debt that citizens are never able to pay off.

There are many individuals who focus on blaming the Jewish banking powers as the sole creators of currency creation and usury. No doubt a Jewish element had used these practices but they were not involved in creating the Bank of England. I consider this blaming of Jewish bankers, a red herring to divert culpability from the Crown of England in creating and sustaining these processes during the last three centuries. These processes have now expanded world wide.

Let us review some of the facts involved in the creation of The Bank of England:

In 1693, William Paterson proposed that the "Bank of England" be based on the idea of a "Fund of Perpetual Interest" which creates a permanent National Debt. Backers of Paterson’s idea were impressive. The spokesman was Michael Godfrey, a merchant of great substance. Other supporters were members of the leading City Livery Companies. Many were Members of Parliament and many were directly associated with the government of the City. Of the first twenty six members of the Court of Directors, six subsequently became Lord Mayor. All were solid in their support of the "Glorious Revolution" which was Protestants versus Catholics. All were Protestants.

The promoters had in mind a bank of issue which involved creating their own currency. They had long known that the most profitable source of income to the Goldsmith-Bankers were in their own "notes", which passed from hand to hand in the limited area where they were recognized. It would greatly enhance profits for a bank, if they could issue notes which would be recognized and accepted over an area far wider than any that the goldsmiths could command.

The Committee of the House of Commons, which grasped the implications, rejected Paterson’s scheme. These far-reaching and historic proposals were later deliberately placed, with obscure wording, at the end of an ordinary finance bill. The bill related to taxes on liquor, ale and custom duties. This process of concealing the intent of the bill contributed to it’s passing. Later, this underhanded process of introducing banking legislation appeared throughout the world.

The Act received the Royal Assent on 25th April 1694. Opponents of the Bank, in Privy Council, tried to get the granting of the commission postponed. Their attempt was stopped by the Queen, under specific orders of King William III who was away on a military campaign. On the 15th of June, a commission was issued under the great seal, to which was attached a draft of the proposed Charter. Sir William Ashurst, the Lord Mayor, and other city merchants were named as commissioners.

The corporate books were opened at Mercers Chapell on June 21st. The Book of Subscriptions first shows a sum of 10,000 pounds in the names of the King and Queen, followed by 1,267 individual shareholders. In all, there were 11 contributors of the permitted maximum amount of 10,000 pounds. They were the Earl of Portland, 6 individuals described only as Esquires, James de la Brettoniere of London, William Brownlowe of Woodcott, Surrey, Thomas Howard of Westminster, Thomas Mulsoe of the Middle Temple, Anthony Humberstone and Anthony Parsons (both of London). The remaining 4 subscribers of the maximum amount allowed were elected members of the first court of directors. They were Sir John Houblon and his brother Abraham, Theodore Janssen and Sir William Scawen.

The Governors and Directors were to be chosen each year between March 25 and April 25, by those shareholders who held no less than 500 pounds in stock. 633 shareholders were qualified to vote and this was done in Mercers Hall on Tuesday July 5th, 1694 at 8 a.m.. From this vote, the first Court of Directors was elected. The names inscribed in the Charter are:

Sir John Houblon (Governor)

Michael Godfrey (Deputy Governor)

Sir John Huband BT Sir James Houblon KT

Sir William Gore KT Sir William Scawen KT

Sir Henry Furnese KT Sir Thomas Abney KT

Sir William Hedges KT Brook Bridges

James Bateman George Boddington

Edward Clarke James Denew

Thomas Goddard Abraham Houblon

Gilbert Heathcote Theodore Janssen

John Lordell Samuel Lethieullier

William Paterson Robert Rathworth

John Smith Obadiah Sedgewick

Nathaniel Tench John Ward

The Charter was sealed at Powis House, Lincoln Inn Fields by Sir John Somers, Keeper of the Seal on July 27th. The 6th act of the 1694 Bank Act was evidently designed to prevent the bank from ever falling into the hands of a clique (through returning Directors) because two thirds could not be re-elected. This was faithfully observed until 1872. In that year, the proportion retiring was changed, and in 1892, the practice was dropped.

It is interesting to see the disinformation put forward on the theory of a Jewish conspiracy in developing the Bank of England. Many have pointed to Nathan Amschel Rothschild as being a great influence. Not only was he not yet born but the first Rothschild Merchant Bank was not created until the early 1800s, approximately one hundred and ten years later. There is even an instance were the Bank of England refused to honor the Rothschild Merchant Bank notes. The course of action taken by Nathan Rothschild, was to send one of his clerks, on the hour, with Bank of England notes for conversion throughout one day. The Bank of England Directors convened with him that evening and agreed to honour the Rothschild’s Merchant Bank issue from that day onward. This illustration, as well as the process used for creating the Bank of England, shows us that no Jewish banking conspiracy controlled the Bank of England at that time.

The creation of this bank was done through the efforts of English Merchants and Goldsmiths, stimulated and ordered by the King and Queen of the realm. Later, the Rothschild’s influence on British economics increased dramatically because of events surrounding the Battle of Waterloo. A quick recap of this famous battle will clarify the way the Rothschilds benefited.

The alliance against Republican France had two major armies in this area. The Duke of Wellington was Commander in Chief of an army of 110,000 to 130,000 (depending on the various historians research) which was made up of Belgiums, Hanoverians, Netherlands, Nassaueans and English troops. Marshal Blucher had about 120,000 men in the Prussian army. These troops were spread out and battles developed wherever a massing of troops occurred. The heavy fighting spanned a three day period culminating at Waterloo. France had approximately 125,000 troops in all. Using approximately 65,000 French troops, they engaged Marshal Blucher and the Prussian force of 85,000 troops at Ligny and caused them to flee. This news caused a panic in London’s Stock Exchange.

On the second and third day, the French troops (minus 30,000 under Marshal Grouchy sent to destroy the routed Prussian army) attacked Wellington and his army which consisted of 65,000 (some claim only 24,000} British troops backed up by 60,000 troops from Belgium, Germany and Netherlands. The second day’s fighting centered around a crossroad community called Quatre Bras. There the battle wavered, depending on the amount of reinforcements thrown in the fight. Neither side had a decisive victory. That evening, Wellington withdrew from Quatre Bras to a more advantageous position that he had reconnoitered months before, known as Mont St. Jean. There, the British troops managed to hold their defensive position while Marshal Blucher was able to reorganize some of his troops and elude Marshal Grouchy. He gradually reinforced Wellington’s army at a most critical time and attacked with over 52,000 Prussian troops. The French army of the North, at Waterloo eventually broke and was decimated throughout the night. Portions of this information were compiled by the victors over thirty years after the Battle of Waterloo. There are many gaps in information.

Historians, sympathetic to monarchies, have not clearly stated why Napoleon engaged these combined armies. He hoped to link with former Republican allies in Brussels. These historians usually ignore the fact that Russia and Austria had over 550,000 troops moving on France at that time. This was a concerted attack against the potential re-establishment of Republics by the Monarchies of Europe.

In any event, the results of the 18th of June fighting became known to the Rothschild’s and the information was delivered to England in spite of a fierce channel storm. While British shareholders, believing that the battle was lost, were dumping their various stocks, the Rothschild’s, being the sole owners of news of the victory at Waterloo, were able to tremendously increase their holdings at bargain prices. This is how they became a foremost power in the British economy. Another opportunity for the Rothschilds to greatly increase their influence in England was due to their involvement in stopping the stockmarket crash of 1825. They brought in a large amount of gold from Paris to shore up finances in England.

These historical facts disprove that there was ever a Jewish conspiracy in the creation of the Bank of England in 1694. The Bank of England became historically known as a stronghold of the Whigs and a bulwark of the Protestant Succession.

My concern in this matter is that, in my studies of International Finance and National Debt, I have found many who blame the Jews as the perpetrators. From my awareness level of humanity, I do not target nationalities, races or religious groups for the activities of the few. This is the process used by the Luciferian consciousness to keep those who are dedicated to expanding the inner light in humanity from working together. All activities and involvements in life are due to free will choices or past Karma through the Universal laws of cause and effect.


Concentrate on American history. that is much easier for your deluded fantasies to distort

By the way, a basic understanding of world banking might be useful too: For example, the biggest bank in the world was founded by a Scottish family? The Scottish going to your death camps also? Fuck, never thought, its not the jews who are the secrete illuminate bloodlines, it's that fucking pissed up homeless guy from Perth, that hangs around Kings Cross; evil bastard.

http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11849218

HSBC became the world’s biggest bank last year, supplanting Bank of America, according to The Banker magazine, which ranks 1,000 banks by their holdings of tier-one capital. This is a bank’s core capital, which is made up of equity, accumulated reserves and earnings that have not been paid out as dividends. Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) jumped from eighth to third in the list. Based on the size of its assets, RBS is ranked number one, followed by Deutsche Bank, which is outside the top 20 banks graded by tier-one capital. Bank of China and ICBC, another Chinese bank, retained their positions in the top ten. Both enjoyed stronger profits growth than their peers last year.

http://media.economist.com/images/20080802/CIN692.gif


By the way, still thinking about you

93 93/93

[eternal_spirit]

1. The Truth Seeker - The House of Rothschild (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840)

"This gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy, and forced England to set up a new Bank of England, which Nathan Rothschild ..."
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840

2. Re: Are we all in hock to the Rothschilds ? Who really owns the ... (http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.politics.misc/2005-12/msg03583.html)

"Who really owns the Bank of England ? From: Stephen Glynn ... What should I do if I think I have been given a counterfeit note? ... note is genuine ..."
newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.politics.misc/2005-12/msg03583.html

3. THE HISTORY OF MONEY Rothschild Banking (http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html)

"You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England ..."
www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

4. Creation of the Bank of England: Not a Jewish Conspiracy (http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/chapter2.htm)

"There is even an instance were the Bank of England refused to honor the Rothschild Merchant Bank notes. The course of action taken by Nathan Rothschild, ..."
mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/chapter2.htm

5. Yahoo! Message Boards - General Electric Company (GE ... (http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7631&tid=816972&mid=816972&tof=5&frt=2)

"ROTHSCHILDS OWN AMERICAN POLITICIANS 21-Aug-08 06:27 pm ... Here they control everything from The Central Bank of England to the London Stock Exchange. ..."
messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7631&tid=816972&mid=816972&tof=5&frt=2

6. JP MORGAN BANK IS A ROTHSCHILD FRONT COMPANY. - SEE CHART AT LINK. (http://www.***********************/forum1/message522288/pg1)

"The Rothschild family owns and runs the bank of England, and with it the British ..... The Rothschilds do not control the Knights of Malta. ..."
www.***********************/forum1/message522288/pg1

7. Rothschild banking family of England - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"N M Rothschild & Sons financial strength in the City of London became such that by 1825-6 , the bank was able to supply enough coin to the Bank of England ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England

8. Ileana Stan 6 (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/rothschild.htm)

"The first bank to be named after a country, the Bank of England had nothing to do with the British government - except to own it through privately held, ..."
www.vaticanassassins.org/rothschild.htm

9. They lied to us: THE ROTHSCHILDS: THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN AND ... (http://911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/rothschilds-top-of-food-chain-and-are.html)

"23 Aug 2006 ... "Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who, by 1820, had established a firm grip on the Bank of England stated:"I care not what puppet is placed upon the ..."
911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/rothschilds-top-of-food-chain-and-are.html

10. WikiAnswers - Who owns the bank of england (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_owns_the_bank_of_england)

"Business and Finance question: Who owns the bank of england? The Rothschilds own all banks and use their financial weight to ruin nations whilst increasing ..."
wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_owns_the_bank_of_england

11. windymedia >> Rothschilds & Rockefellers - Trillionaire Terrorists ... (http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?25923S)

"12 Oct 2008 ... In the US, the FED owners "own" the state. Rothschilds' favorite saying .... secret - a nominee company called the Bank of England Nominees. ..."
winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?25923S

12. The Power Of The Rothschilds (http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM)

"By their own secret intelligence service and their own news network they could .... to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild's Bank of England, ..."
www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

13. What's the Net Worth of the Rothschilds???, page 2 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg2)

"Does anyone know if the Rothschild own shares in the Bank of England/Federal reserve? I heard the rumors, just never had any confirmation. ..."
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg2

14. Who owns the Bank Of England? (http://www.addqa.com/corporations/746-corporations.html)

"There is a nouns between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London bank which ... How do I find a company that manufacture golf clothing. ..."
www.addqa.com/corporations/746-corporations.html

15. Who owns the Fed? (http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html)

"Chart of who "owns" the Federal Reserve. Chart 1 ... N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England. | | | J. Henry Schroder | Banking | Corp. ..."
www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

16. Timeline of the Rothschild family (http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm)

"The Rothschilds also use their control of the Bank of England to replace the method of ... 1837: The Rothschilds send one of their own, August Belmont, ..."
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

17. Rockefeller & Rothschild Connection - Rothschild & Rockefeller FED ... (http://www.fdrs.org/rockefeller.html)

"This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a ... N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England ..."
www.fdrs.org/rockefeller.html

18. Smarter Than a Rothschild or a British Prime Minister? (http://www.strike-the-root.com/81/herman/herman3.html)

"20 Mar 2008 ... Indeed, perhaps the Rothschilds bought that gold from the Bank of England at Gordon Brown's fire sale. But gold is not the only answer. ..."
www.strike-the-root.com/81/herman/herman3.html

19. Are Hitler Rothschild?? (David Icke) (http://www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke)

"rothschilds own bank of america · illuminati rothschild .... it was the Rothschilds who funded Hitler through the Bank of England and other British and ..."
www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke

20. The-money-changers-ch6-9 (http://www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch6-9.htm)

"7. THE RISE OF THE ROTHSCHILDS. This is Frankfurt, Germany. Fifty years after the Bank of England opened its doors, a goldsmith named Amschel Moses Bauer ..."
www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch6-9.htm

[the7thdr]

1. The Truth Seeker - The House of Rothschild (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840)

"This gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy, and forced England to set up a new Bank of England, which Nathan Rothschild ..."
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=840

2. Re: Are we all in hock to the Rothschilds ? Who really owns the ... (http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.politics.misc/2005-12/msg03583.html)

"Who really owns the Bank of England ? From: Stephen Glynn ... What should I do if I think I have been given a counterfeit note? ... note is genuine ..."
newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.politics.misc/2005-12/msg03583.html

3. THE HISTORY OF MONEY Rothschild Banking (http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html)

"You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England ..."
www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

4. Creation of the Bank of England: Not a Jewish Conspiracy (http://mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/chapter2.htm)

"There is even an instance were the Bank of England refused to honor the Rothschild Merchant Bank notes. The course of action taken by Nathan Rothschild, ..."
mypage.direct.ca/l/lbouchar/chapter2.htm

5. Yahoo! Message Boards - General Electric Company (GE ... (http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7631&tid=816972&mid=816972&tof=5&frt=2)

"ROTHSCHILDS OWN AMERICAN POLITICIANS 21-Aug-08 06:27 pm ... Here they control everything from The Central Bank of England to the London Stock Exchange. ..."
messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(A_to_Z)/Stocks_G/threadview?m=tm&bn=7631&tid=816972&mid=816972&tof=5&frt=2

6. JP MORGAN BANK IS A ROTHSCHILD FRONT COMPANY. - SEE CHART AT LINK. (http://www.***********************/forum1/message522288/pg1)

"The Rothschild family owns and runs the bank of England, and with it the British ..... The Rothschilds do not control the Knights of Malta. ..."
www.***********************/forum1/message522288/pg1

7. Rothschild banking family of England - Wikipedia, the free ... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England)

"N M Rothschild & Sons financial strength in the City of London became such that by 1825-6 , the bank was able to supply enough coin to the Bank of England ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England

8. Ileana Stan 6 (http://www.vaticanassassins.org/rothschild.htm)

"The first bank to be named after a country, the Bank of England had nothing to do with the British government - except to own it through privately held, ..."
www.vaticanassassins.org/rothschild.htm

9. They lied to us: THE ROTHSCHILDS: THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN AND ... (http://911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/rothschilds-top-of-food-chain-and-are.html)

"23 Aug 2006 ... "Nathan Mayer Rothschild, who, by 1820, had established a firm grip on the Bank of England stated:"I care not what puppet is placed upon the ..."
911wasahoax.blogspot.com/2006/08/rothschilds-top-of-food-chain-and-are.html

10. WikiAnswers - Who owns the bank of england (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_owns_the_bank_of_england)

"Business and Finance question: Who owns the bank of england? The Rothschilds own all banks and use their financial weight to ruin nations whilst increasing ..."
wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_owns_the_bank_of_england

11. windymedia >> Rothschilds & Rockefellers - Trillionaire Terrorists ... (http://winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?25923S)

"12 Oct 2008 ... In the US, the FED owners "own" the state. Rothschilds' favorite saying .... secret - a nominee company called the Bank of England Nominees. ..."
winnipeg.indymedia.org/item.php?25923S

12. The Power Of The Rothschilds (http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM)

"By their own secret intelligence service and their own news network they could .... to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild's Bank of England, ..."
www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

13. What's the Net Worth of the Rothschilds???, page 2 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg2)

"Does anyone know if the Rothschild own shares in the Bank of England/Federal reserve? I heard the rumors, just never had any confirmation. ..."
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread211313/pg2

14. Who owns the Bank Of England? (http://www.addqa.com/corporations/746-corporations.html)

"There is a nouns between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London bank which ... How do I find a company that manufacture golf clothing. ..."
www.addqa.com/corporations/746-corporations.html

15. Who owns the Fed? (http://www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html)

"Chart of who "owns" the Federal Reserve. Chart 1 ... N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England. | | | J. Henry Schroder | Banking | Corp. ..."
www.save-a-patriot.org/files/view/whofed.html

16. Timeline of the Rothschild family (http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm)

"The Rothschilds also use their control of the Bank of England to replace the method of ... 1837: The Rothschilds send one of their own, August Belmont, ..."
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

17. Rockefeller & Rothschild Connection - Rothschild & Rockefeller FED ... (http://www.fdrs.org/rockefeller.html)

"This little coterie...run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a ... N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England ..."
www.fdrs.org/rockefeller.html

18. Smarter Than a Rothschild or a British Prime Minister? (http://www.strike-the-root.com/81/herman/herman3.html)

"20 Mar 2008 ... Indeed, perhaps the Rothschilds bought that gold from the Bank of England at Gordon Brown's fire sale. But gold is not the only answer. ..."
www.strike-the-root.com/81/herman/herman3.html

19. Are Hitler Rothschild?? (David Icke) (http://www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke)

"rothschilds own bank of america · illuminati rothschild .... it was the Rothschilds who funded Hitler through the Bank of England and other British and ..."
www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke

20. The-money-changers-ch6-9 (http://www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch6-9.htm)

"7. THE RISE OF THE ROTHSCHILDS. This is Frankfurt, Germany. Fifty years after the Bank of England opened its doors, a goldsmith named Amschel Moses Bauer ..."
www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch6-9.htm


Could you manage to cite a reliable source; one that isn't anything form "antisemitic are us" and "The Lithium doesn't work dot com

Funny you cited abovetopsecret.com by the way. They always tell the real nutters to come over to this forum and of course - in keeping with the paranoid delusions http://www.redpillpress.com.au/blog/2006/01/08/are-sp00ks-running-abovetopsecret/

The others will also be thinking about you tonight

93

[lizzy]

You don't need to worry, you won't go to a FEMA camp - you're to fucking thick for anyone to bother with. You can stay out and continue to spew the party line that we - the reptilian shape-shifters - make you believe in. We will keep throwing you scapegoats and burnt offerings and you will keep taking them and helping us along. Bless you my child.

93

You have a distinct manner about you......one I am familiar with....a Crowleyite , LOL......

......your aggression and evil intent has no effect on me.....once perhaps,when still stunned that creatures like you existed but not anymore..LOL

:D :D :D :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: LOL.............

[lizzy]

Hi ES....:)

some very good info and links there........;)

[the7thdr]

You have a distinct manner about you......one I am familiar with....

......your aggression and evil intent has no effect on me.....once perhaps,when still stunned that creatures like you existed but not anymore..LOL

:D :D :D :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: LOL.............

Yes, my aggression and evil intent has no effect on you, as I am sure your wonderful comments about the Jews throughout this thread has no effect on them. I be the Jews thought those members of the Nazi party would have no effect on them 70 odd years ago; or the gays, the gypsies the "mentally retarded", etc.

And I fucking hope you are not familiar with me, I would move at once and pay a visit to the "clinic" just in case.

[1694]

The rest of the description from the7thdr is how I inderstand it. I think some of the original docs are available at the BOE museum.

However:

On the second and third day, the French troops (minus 30,000 under Marshal Grouchy sent to destroy the routed Prussian army) attacked Wellington and his army which consisted of 65,000 (some claim only 24,000} British troops backed up by 60,000 troops from Belgium, Germany and Netherlands. The second day’s fighting centered around a crossroad community called Quatre Bras. There the battle wavered, depending on the amount of reinforcements thrown in the fight. Neither side had a decisive victory. That evening, Wellington withdrew from Quatre Bras to a more advantageous position that he had reconnoitered months before, known as Mont St. Jean. There, the British troops managed to hold their defensive position while Marshal Blucher was able to reorganize some of his troops and elude Marshal Grouchy. He gradually reinforced Wellington’s army at a most critical time and attacked with over 52,000 Prussian troops. The French army of the North, at Waterloo eventually broke and was decimated throughout the night. Portions of this information were compiled by the victors over thirty years after the Battle of Waterloo. There are many gaps in information.

Historians, sympathetic to monarchies, have not clearly stated why Napoleon engaged these combined armies. He hoped to link with former Republican allies in Brussels. These historians usually ignore the fact that Russia and Austria had over 550,000 troops moving on France at that time. This was a concerted attack against the potential re-establishment of Republics by the Monarchies of Europe.

In any event, the results of the 18th of June fighting became known to the Rothschild’s and the information was delivered to England in spite of a fierce channel storm. While British shareholders, believing that the battle was lost, were dumping their various stocks, the Rothschild’s, being the sole owners of news of the victory at Waterloo, were able to tremendously increase their holdings at bargain prices. This is how they became a foremost power in the British economy. Another opportunity for the Rothschilds to greatly increase their influence in England was due to their involvement in stopping the stockmarket crash of 1825. They brought in a large amount of gold from Paris to shore up finances in England.

I have heard it that at this point, the rothschilds took control of the BOE? Would this have been possible or likely? Isn't it one of their companies that is the outsourced company for the mint.

(They could practice voodo for all I care)

[eternal_spirit]

Could you manage to cite a reliable source; one that isn't anything form "antisemitic are us" and "The Lithium doesn't work dot com

Funny you cited abovetopsecret.com by the way. They always tell the real nutters to come over to this forum and of course - in keeping with the paranoid delusions http://www.redpillpress.com.au/blog/2006/01/08/are-sp00ks-running-abovetopsecret/

The others will also be thinking about you tonight

93

LOL you're desperate and so wrong. Are you suggesting Google search is anti-semitic.

Type in do the rothschilds own the Bank of England, and you'll get the same results as myself. So, I did not cite anything just posted Google search results.

And what do you mean the others will be thinking about me tonight? Be specific?

The number 93 is of great significance in the religion of Thelema - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, adapted from the philosophy of François Rabelais - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia by Aleister Crowley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in 1904 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with the writing of The Book of the Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_%28Thelema%29#cite_note-0)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_%28Thelema%29#cite_note-IAO131-1)

[the7thdr]

The rest of the description from the7thdr is how I inderstand it. I think some of the original docs are available at the BOE museum.

However:

On the second and third day, the French troops (minus 30,000 under Marshal Grouchy sent to destroy the routed Prussian army) attacked Wellington and his army which consisted of 65,000 (some claim only 24,000} British troops backed up by 60,000 troops from Belgium, Germany and Netherlands. The second day’s fighting centered around a crossroad community called Quatre Bras. There the battle wavered, depending on the amount of reinforcements thrown in the fight. Neither side had a decisive victory. That evening, Wellington withdrew from Quatre Bras to a more advantageous position that he had reconnoitered months before, known as Mont St. Jean. There, the British troops managed to hold their defensive position while Marshal Blucher was able to reorganize some of his troops and elude Marshal Grouchy. He gradually reinforced Wellington’s army at a most critical time and attacked with over 52,000 Prussian troops. The French army of the North, at Waterloo eventually broke and was decimated throughout the night. Portions of this information were compiled by the victors over thirty years after the Battle of Waterloo. There are many gaps in information.

Historians, sympathetic to monarchies, have not clearly stated why Napoleon engaged these combined armies. He hoped to link with former Republican allies in Brussels. These historians usually ignore the fact that Russia and Austria had over 550,000 troops moving on France at that time. This was a concerted attack against the potential re-establishment of Republics by the Monarchies of Europe.

In any event, the results of the 18th of June fighting became known to the Rothschild’s and the information was delivered to England in spite of a fierce channel storm. While British shareholders, believing that the battle was lost, were dumping their various stocks, the Rothschild’s, being the sole owners of news of the victory at Waterloo, were able to tremendously increase their holdings at bargain prices. This is how they became a foremost power in the British economy. Another opportunity for the Rothschilds to greatly increase their influence in England was due to their involvement in stopping the stockmarket crash of 1825. They brought in a large amount of gold from Paris to shore up finances in England.

I have heard it that at this point, the rothschilds took control of the BOE? Would this have been possible or likely? Isn't it one of their companies that is the outsourced company for the mint.

(They could practice voodo for all I care)

I believe not 1694, although possible. I dislike anyone that makes their money in banking; I would put nothing beyond them. Banking must be one the most evil profession on the planet, full of some of the most selfish, twisted, sick none empathic people on the planet, next to politicians and racist biggots.

[lizzy]

Yes, my aggression and evil intent has no effect on you, as I am sure your wonderful comments about the Jews throughout this thread has no effect on them. I be the Jews thought those members of the Nazi party would have no effect on them 70 odd years ago; or the gays, the gypsies the "mentally retarded", etc.

And I fucking hope you are not familiar with me, I would move at once and pay a visit to the "clinic" just in case.

The zionist neo-con bankers are the real fascists........don't you see them at work right now , today !!........

It is this purile evil that you protect and promote.......hiding behind a web of lies manufactured by your masters......

You are going to like the NWO....Enjoy, LOL.......

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[the7thdr]

And what do you mean the others will be thinking about me tonight? Be specific?



Don't worry, I'm sure it will all become...um..."illuminated" for you later.

[1694]

This is an account I read:

On that day, 18 June, 74,000 French troops met 67,000 troops from Britain and other European nations. The outcome was certainly in doubt. In fact, had Napoleon attacked a few hours earlier, he would probably have won the battle.



But no matter who won or lost, back in London Nathan Rothschild planned to use the opportunity to try to seize control over the British stock-and-bond market. The Rothschilds hotly dispute the following account.



Rothschild stationed a trustee agent, a man named Rothworth, on the north side of the battlefield, closer to the English Channel. Once the battle had been decided, Rothwortt took off for the Channel. He delivered the news to Nathan Rothschild full 24 hours before Wellington's own courier.



Rothschild hurried to the stock market and took up his usual position in front of an ancient pillar. All eyes were on him. The Rothschilds had a legendary communication network.



If Wellington had been defeated and Napoleon were loose on the Continent again, Britain's financial situation would become grave indeed. Rothschild looked saddened. He stood there motionless, eyes downcast. Then, suddenly, he began selling.



Other nervous investors saw that Rothschild was selling. It could only mean one thing: Napoleon must have won; Wellington must have been defeated.



The market plummeted. Soon, everyone was selling their consols-their British government bonds and other stocks-and prices dropped. Then Rothschild and his financial allies started secretly buying through agents.



Myths, legends, you say? One hundred years later, the New York Times ran a story which said that Nathan Rothschild's grandson had attempted to secure a court order to suppress a book containing this stock market story. The Rothschild family claimed the story was untrue and libellous, but the court denied the Rothschilds' request and ordered the family to pay all court costs.



What's even more interesting about this story is that some authors claim that the day after the Battle of Waterloo, in a matter of hours, Nathan Rothschild and allied financial interests came to dominate not only the bond market but the Bank of England as well. (An interesting feature of some consols was that they were convertible to Bank of England stock.)

Link: http://www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch10-14.htm

[1694]

Also a more credible source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-rothschild-story-a-golden-era-ends-for-a-secretive-dynasty-756388.html

[1694]

Any researchers might be able to get info here: http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/history/archive/using.htm

[eternal_spirit]

Don't worry, I'm sure it will all become...um..."illuminated" for you later.



And what do you mean the others will be thinking about me tonight? Be specific?


Hitler was a Rothschild article by David Icke along with info about banks and more.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke







So, do you wanna call Icke a Nazi now? Is he an anti-semite?

[the7thdr]

This is an account I read:

On that day, 18 June, 74,000 French troops met 67,000 troops from Britain and other European nations. The outcome was certainly in doubt. In fact, had Napoleon attacked a few hours earlier, he would probably have won the battle.



But no matter who won or lost, back in London Nathan Rothschild planned to use the opportunity to try to seize control over the British stock-and-bond market. The Rothschilds hotly dispute the following account.



Rothschild stationed a trustee agent, a man named Rothworth, on the north side of the battlefield, closer to the English Channel. Once the battle had been decided, Rothwortt took off for the Channel. He delivered the news to Nathan Rothschild full 24 hours before Wellington's own courier.



Rothschild hurried to the stock market and took up his usual position in front of an ancient pillar. All eyes were on him. The Rothschilds had a legendary communication network.



If Wellington had been defeated and Napoleon were loose on the Continent again, Britain's financial situation would become grave indeed. Rothschild looked saddened. He stood there motionless, eyes downcast. Then, suddenly, he began selling.



Other nervous investors saw that Rothschild was selling. It could only mean one thing: Napoleon must have won; Wellington must have been defeated.



The market plummeted. Soon, everyone was selling their consols-their British government bonds and other stocks-and prices dropped. Then Rothschild and his financial allies started secretly buying through agents.



Myths, legends, you say? One hundred years later, the New York Times ran a story which said that Nathan Rothschild's grandson had attempted to secure a court order to suppress a book containing this stock market story. The Rothschild family claimed the story was untrue and libellous, but the court denied the Rothschilds' request and ordered the family to pay all court costs.



What's even more interesting about this story is that some authors claim that the day after the Battle of Waterloo, in a matter of hours, Nathan Rothschild and allied financial interests came to dominate not only the bond market but the Bank of England as well. (An interesting feature of some consols was that they were convertible to Bank of England stock.)

Link: http://www.ojczyzna.pl/BOOKS/the-money-changers-ch10-14.htm

1694: I did not say that major banks (and many other financial institutions) did not attempt to manipulate politics, history, etc in their favor. Anyone that thinks this is not the case is highly naive and has never worked in the "city" at a level above filling clerk.

My issue was that this thread started by saying that the Rothschilds are "shareholders" in the BoE. I think you have an understanding of how this is not possible. Are various banks and financial institutions trying to influence the BoE for their own benefit; especially now it can set it's own interests rates, etc? Of course they do.

My issue, is with incorrect information, and that suddenly male and female thick shit bigots above churn out the usual "the Jews did it crap".

The truth is far, far more complex than this and it is not anyone "race" that controls banking. Indeed, in esoteric terms it is the banking institutes that control them. You might be familiar with the term eregore?

However, bigot and bigot believe what they are told to believe, and they do it very well.

But I am bored now, although thank you for your rational discussion.

[1694]

No probs mate, This was the sentance that bit that got me: What's even more interesting about this story is that some authors claim that the day after the Battle of Waterloo, in a matter of hours, Nathan Rothschild and allied financial interests came to dominate not only the bond market but the Bank of England as well. (An interesting feature of some consols was that they were convertible to Bank of England stock.)

As you say, today the shares of the BOE are held by the treasury. This is however irrelevant again as you say (yet others fail to grasp.)

The Rothschilds may well be the real power in the British/world banking behind the scenes but the people they happen to share a religion with are completly irrelevant.

[eternal_spirit]

And what do you mean the others will be thinking about me tonight? Be specific?


Hitler was a Rothschild article by David Icke along with info about banks and more.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5291275/Are-Hitler-Rothschild-David-Icke







So, do you wanna call Icke a Nazi now? Is he an anti-semite?

the7thdr

[h2pogo]

I never knew the boa was officially state owned.
I assumed it was private like the fed??
if its state owned then surley it could be good???

does the boa practice fractional reserve banking?
do us tax payers now owe the boe the debt the comercial banks owe the boe.
and does the boe owe the imf/world bank??

if the answer to any of these questions is yes then i have a feeling we are being fucked.
in more holes than one.

I think it is our duty to complain and demand answers.
why wont the beeb investigate fractional reserve banking as the cause of the problem??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml

BTW the arguments on this thread are more entetaining than any episode of east enders i have ever had the missfortune to of sufferd.
keep up the good work

[eternal_spirit]

Nathan Mayer Rothschild (1777-1836, who once said: "I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply.") was the head of the bank in London, England, which was known as N. M. Rothschild and Sons (and has occupied the same premises since 1809, at 2 New Court, St. Swithin's Lane in London, near the Bank of England and Stock Exchange)

I refer back to this post

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=556646&postcount=51

[civil servant]

Having read through the numerous comments on this subject I can't but somewhat think that we are witnessing th early signs of what could one day become a divided London with its own citizens, government and institution. A Vatican-like city.

If this were to happen the government would be forced to act in accordance with the City of London Corportion as they would be the bread winners.

Now think of this - What I have just described has already happened. Its just not visible to me and you. The City of London Corporation didn't have to approach the Bank of England for money to bail them out of the recent banking crisis which saw RBS fall flat on its face, it didn't have to approach the Queen's Bank for two reasons:

1. A number of members of the Council of Directors, the offcial board whih runs the Bank of England, are from the finance sector themselves as chairman of global banks or they are part of the City o London Corporation Borough, whose principal interest i to seve the finance sector.

2. On paper it' the Queen's bank (in 1946 it was handed over to the public) but in actual fact it still very much belongs to the City of London Corporation, who, as previously mentioned sit on it's Council of Directors.


I am not going to gt into the debate of whether Gordon Brown sold this as a governmnt brownie point as decorating it with, ".... this way we will protect all the many thousands of people that hae invested money into RBS, this way we will get the banks lending again and make it easier for the British public to obtain a mortgage." That may well be what he really felt so who am I to judge him. But what I do know is that the City of London Corporation knew exactly what they were doing. They knew that this marriage was illicit and that certain vows would have to be .... not broken but let's just say, bent a little.


Gordon's guilt, if I may, was naiveity. He didn't see this coming, his Exchequeor did't impose his authority and veto any mandate. There's nothing to disprove that he stood up to the Prime Minister at the time. The two most powerful men in the country (or so they thought) made a boo-boo!

A small fact the Bank of Engalnd was founded in 1694 to act as the Government's banker and debt-manager. Since then its role has developed and evolved, centred on the management of the nation's currency and its position at the centre of the UK's financial system. With time the Bank became greedy and wanted more and more. It was given teeth and claws, it was seduced into the City of London Corporation, who it now serves.

My question - Was Her Majesty The Queen party to this illicit marriage? Remeber who sits on the Counsel of Directors. My guess is that this marriage was not only illicit in beasts it was illicit in that it took place away frm the eyes of the state, who 'on paper' runs it. Maybe, one could argue, the Queen left this matter in the hands of the appointed Exchequer who serves as government advisor on her behalf. A failure no matter what way you look at it! A failure of communiction at the highest level, a failure in accountability and a failure in the battle all private investors have - greed!

If we want someone to blame then ask your self this question, just how powerful i the City of London Corporation. Its jaw may be shut now but lets not infuriate the beast beause my guess is that it ha the same set of teeth it gave to the Bank of England.

Who can stand up against it? There is but only one figure - the Queen!

Adrian Edwards

[freedom1st]

I believe not 1694, although possible. I dislike anyone that makes their money in banking; I would put nothing beyond them. Banking must be one the most evil profession on the planet, full of some of the most selfish, twisted, sick none empathic people on the planet, next to politicians and racist biggots.

This is very true, I completely agree.
But guess what? Most banks are owned by jews..

[freedom1st]

1694: I did not say that major banks (and many other financial institutions) did not attempt to manipulate politics, history, etc in their favor. Anyone that thinks this is not the case is highly naive and has never worked in the "city" at a level above filling clerk.

My issue was that this thread started by saying that the Rothschilds are "shareholders" in the BoE. I think you have an understanding of how this is not possible. Are various banks and financial institutions trying to influence the BoE for their own benefit; especially now it can set it's own interests rates, etc? Of course they do.

My issue, is with incorrect information, and that suddenly male and female thick shit bigots above churn out the usual "the Jews did it crap".

The truth is far, far more complex than this and it is not anyone "race" that controls banking. Indeed, in esoteric terms it is the banking institutes that control them. You might be familiar with the term eregore?

However, bigot and bigot believe what they are told to believe, and they do it very well.

But I am bored now, although thank you for your rational discussion.

Is this the level of your ignorance?
You think jews are a race?
Judaism is an ideology. So if people are crtitical of jews then at worst they are being ideologist (not racist). And if we are protecting ideologies and preventing people from criticising ideologies then we are in serious trouble..