The Matrix movie- did the makers know about 9/11? [Archive]

vladmir

11-10-2008, 09:11 AM

The Matrix trilogy is unlike any other movie i've ever seen, i remember seeing the first Matrix movie in 1999, and was blown away.
Because im predominantly interstest in spirituality and meditation, i looked upon Neo as a metaphor of an 'enlightened modern sage', a 'guru' who has 'got it' and understood that the world is literally 'Maya'.
As he was able to see the reality beneath the reality, so i imagined thats how people when they go deep in meditation must be able to see things as well.

I mean the september 11 passport 'coincidence' reminds me of the illuminati game that came out in 1995, and the cards show the twin towers being struck in the same place by planes 6 years later.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/ICG.html
http://www.sjgames.com/illuminati/

mikethepunk

11-10-2008, 09:18 AM

I mean the september 11 passport 'coincidence' reminds me of the illuminati game that came out in 1995, and the cards show the twin towers being struck in the same place by planes 6 years later.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/ICG.html
http://www.sjgames.com/illuminati/

Wow I did not know this. Very, very interesting.

knut

11-10-2008, 10:30 AM

The Illuminati Card Game - 1995 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiwF_aEp4YI

element

11-10-2008, 10:52 AM

The Illuminati Card Game - 1995 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiwF_aEp4YI

Interesting. Also remember the Ghost Recon game from 2001 predicted Russia attacking Georgia..

Btw. at the end of that video, it's just shows another P-R-S...

armoured_amazon

11-10-2008, 11:08 AM

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=illuminati+card+game

Check the cards in this pic
http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=568847&ppid=1122&image=111944599&images=137413054,137413155,137413228,137413291,137 413361,111944599&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0

tfx08

11-10-2008, 11:58 AM

The Illuminati Card Game - 1995 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiwF_aEp4YI

Man thats wacked!!:eek:

danster82

11-10-2008, 12:03 PM

Remember there is a 1 in 365 chance it would be 9/11 so a coincidence is quite possible.

danster82

11-10-2008, 12:09 PM

Man thats wacked!!:eek:

the most important card where missing in that video,

one card shows a big fish eating a smaller fish eating a smaller fish which is called the banking merger card..!

and the next card is economic global collapse

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJPJPC28h4

pretty uncanny

vladmir

11-10-2008, 12:25 PM

Wow I did not know this. Very, very interesting.

As danster82 said above, pretty freaking uncanny is right!

knut

11-10-2008, 12:55 PM

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/hill.jpgThis cardgame is so absurd. People need to see this! Has this been mentioned on this forum before?

armoured_amazon

11-10-2008, 01:01 PM

This cardgame is so absurd. People need to see this! Has this been mentioned on this forum before?

LOL Absurd in what way?

knut

11-10-2008, 01:02 PM

unreal

stelios

11-10-2008, 07:08 PM

Interesting. Also remember the Ghost Recon game from 2001 predicted Russia attacking Georgia..

Btw. at the end of that video, it's just shows another P-R-S...

Russia never attacked Georgia. It was Georgia that attacked.

zero1

11-10-2008, 07:10 PM

Russia never attacked Georgia. It was Georgia that attacked.

Just so.

stelios

11-10-2008, 07:11 PM

In The Matrix movie, as has been brought up before, Neo's passport expires on 9/11.

Could the film-makers be a part of the conspiracy somehow, or is it just synchronicity....or maybe someone else knew and infiltrated it.....the people responsible for making the passport for the film?

Just sharing some thoughts, interested to know what you all think. :)

In history 9/11 has alot of significance. It was the date the zionist organisation was founded and it is also the date that Britain took control of Palestine from the Turks in 1922. So historically for Israelis the date is very significant prior to 2001.

notthisshitagain

11-10-2008, 09:12 PM

jesta_g

11-10-2008, 09:38 PM

i saw this game years ago i think they banned it months after realease(for obvious reasns). There is another more recent illuminati rpg card game that my friend has got. it has word for word what is happening today in it.

this card game is most definatly not a coincidence and who by and why it was released are questions.

im very surprised if it hasnt been mentioned n the forum before.

oh btw there are plenty of subliminal messages in the matrix, the directors and screen writers etc for it knew full well what was going to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1j72V-7Kx0
- please watch. i highly suggest checking out the "illuminati hollywood" series
on youtube. you will begin to laugh your arse of when you begin to properly "watch" the movie. it become very obvious.

look at the matrix' storyline symbolically. it is about a person/being called NEO, which is an anogram for ONE, so neo in this case represents us (unified consciousness) and that we must realise the "truth" of this reaity that it is a "matrix" that is purely holographic illusion. the rest of the film is fairly obvious when you see it this way. also notice when NEO AND TRINITY MEET, NEO = ONE, TRINITY = THE TRINGLE/PYRAMID ....

SO NEO (which can also mean neo-LIGHT) + TRINITY =
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/347887/2/istockphoto_347887_eye_of_the_one_dollar_pyramid.j pg

subliminal messaging can be doe in many ways, from the shapes formed on screen, to props and screen settings, surroundings, hand positions, advertisments in the background, words, colors, noises and many more.

the 9/11 scene in the movie with the passport was a subliminal warning for what was to come which also symbolises the fall/collapse of the Neo (ONE = US).

many films are specifically filmed for the use of subliminal messages to the attack our sub/unconsciousness.

its really worth looking into how it wrks coz you will truly never see a movie the same again. it becames fun and sooo funny seeing how obvious they make it.

lostinstrangeworld

12-10-2008, 11:28 PM

look at the matrix' storyline symbolically. it is about a person/being called NEO, which is an anogram for ONE, so neo in this case represents us (unified consciousness) and that we must realise the "truth" of this reaity that it is a "matrix" that is purely holographic illusion. the rest of the film is fairly obvious when you see it this way. also notice when NEO AND TRINITY MEET, NEO = ONE, TRINITY = THE TRINGLE/PYRAMID ....

SO NEO (which can also mean neo-LIGHT) + TRINITY =

Interesting.

Why do you think the Illuminati are so obsessed with the "trinity"?

And I wonder whether the movie was created with intentions which were positive......or not?

Hmm...........

mahabaratara

12-10-2008, 11:50 PM

IMHO the "Trinity" are the three glands in the brain that secrete certain fluids into our brains and bodies when sufficientley awakened...

They totally lambast the esoteric yet they know its glory for themselves...

Thats changing...

jesta_g

13-10-2008, 12:23 AM

the trinity symbolises many things - for freemasonry the trinity is their "god"/"saviour" the thrice great Hermes also known as JAH-BUL-ON (Jehovah-Baal-Osiris). the trinity also numerological symbolises 3 and the "holy" trinity father (sun) mother (earth) son (the meeting of the two/energy).

"Mahabharata" you are correct also that it represents this part of the brain that links to our Pineal gland.
The Pineal gland is known as the *3rd* eye which "looks" upto the heavens it also has all the fluids the same as an eye however doesnt have an iris, it is called the "Pineal" (pronounced pine-eal) as its shape is similar to a pine.
this is why we see alot of occult and religious symbology with the pine. which dates back to even sumerian art the depicts their "gods" (the annunaki) holding pine cones.
also notice that there is amassive pinecone in the middle of the vatican and often the pope carries a staff with a pinecone on the end.
when awoken the pineal gland is the highest physical Chakra that then awakens for communication with the "higher" planes.

there are many more meanings behind the trinity but in the case of the matrix movie it is refering to the illuminati symbol of the pyramid and the eye - trinity = pyramid, neo(one) = light/single eye.

redman

13-10-2008, 02:02 AM

I find it very strange that out of all the movies there had to be a reference to 911 in the Matrix film.

Very suspicious.

That card game is just bizarre.

jesta_g

13-10-2008, 02:18 AM

redman

13-10-2008, 02:27 AM

youd be amazed how many things have 9-11 references in them.

there a simpsons episode called Homer vs New york (or something like that) where barts passport has the numbers 9 11 on it in clear view also there is a brouchure that Homer gets that shows a 9 with the two towers shown next to it that when looked at it looks like it says 9 11. theres also a reference to a plane crashing, cant remember exactly.

this episode was released before 9/11/01.

Yeah i have seen them all. X files and all that.

Just didn't surprise me at all that the Matrix would have one considering the story of the movie etc.

Could be that the makers are that clued up that they knew 9 11 means something in the scale of things to the elite... Who knows.

The Simpsons is dodgy, I used to love the simpsons but after ya do some research on the makers of it and start getting on to a lot of the hidden messages in it, I don't even watch it anymore, it's gone shit anyway. LOL

But the story line to the Simpsons movie made me think what the fuk, why did they pick that story line, quarantine and kill scenario. Makes ya think doesn't it.

jesta_g

13-10-2008, 02:36 AM

The Simpsons is dodgy, I used to love the simpsons but after ya do some research on the makers of it and start getting on to a lot of the hidden messages in it, I don't even watch it anymore, it's gone shit anyway. LOL

But the story line to the Simpsons movie made me think what the fuk, why did they pick that story line, quarantine and kill scenario. Makes ya think doesn't it.

definatly. ive alwys been iffy of simpsons (*whispers* always been a futurama and south park fan instead;)) but yeh the creators are sneeky wee devils.

a good few of them are bloody scientologists. matt groening is a high initiate freemason.... just with that alone i dread to think how much I have let alone billions of people have wasted their time watching that crap.

the movie was just a middle finger to the face to people like us who know the plan. there is no doubt in my mind that that storyline was specifically chosen.

there are so many things when thinking about that always showed the creators of simpsons involvement with secret societies and the NWO etc. Futurama hads it fair share of subliminals and hints also..... one that always cracks me up is the reptilian space pope. LMAO duuuuuuuuuurp.

serenevasaline

13-10-2008, 03:31 AM

Interesting. Also remember the Ghost Recon game from 2001 predicted Russia attacking Georgia..

Btw. at the end of that video, it's just shows another P-R-S...

According to a video I was just watching, Alex Jones said that Tom Clancy actually warned of 9/11, and that he had insode knowledge of the events. Ghost Recon is a Tom Clancy game.

Here's the video intro for Ghost Recon.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XvVZRwlwebo

serenevasaline

13-10-2008, 03:33 AM

Just didn't surprise me at all that the Matrix would have one considering the story of the movie etc.
.

Where is the reference guys? I've never picked up on that:confused:

lostinstrangeworld

13-10-2008, 03:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEuoYV5j1c8&feature=related

(The answer is given just before the end....very interesting).

serenevasaline

13-10-2008, 03:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEuoYV5j1c8&feature=related

(The answer is given just before the end....very interesting).

that IS interesting. and scary. I dunno why I read these boards. lol. although I love the info and everything I still end up freaked. Not scared of the NWO, but scared of learning the truth. Opening my eyes wider. the truth is bright, the truth is freaky! lol
I'll get over this with time I supose

lostinstrangeworld

13-10-2008, 04:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOzfxAR9bc&feature=related

I just finished watching this....wow.....this series, The Arrivals, has been truly fascinating, even though I became cynical about it part way through it.

I too want to find the truth, whatever the truth may be....that's all I'm searching for....and I'm not afraid.....and ultimately all I believe in is pure love and nothing else.

the7thdr

13-10-2008, 04:26 AM

definatly. ive alwys been iffy of simpsons (*whispers* always been a futurama and south park fan instead;)) but yeh the creators are sneeky wee devils.

a good few of them are bloody scientologists. matt groening is a high initiate freemason.... just with that alone i dread to think how much I have let alone billions of people have wasted their time watching that crap.

.

Can I ask what evidence you have that groening (sic) is a high initiate freemason?

By the way, Groening is the creator, writer and producer of Futurama

jesta_g

13-10-2008, 02:56 PM

By the way, Groening is the creator, writer and producer of Futurama

lmao, of course i know this :D i was being peniggity and having a laugh.

as for Groening being a free mason you will have to wait for me to find the article and websites i got this info from. it was ages ago that i fund this out, back when i first started looking into this crap.

sorry just now im going for a wee walk and day trip with my lady and the baby so cant dig up this info for ya just now. maybe yu could do a lil investigatng. either way ill be back later to update you :)

the7thdr

13-10-2008, 10:51 PM

lmao, of course i know this :D i was being peniggity and having a laugh.

as for Groening being a free mason you will have to wait for me to find the article and websites i got this info from. it was ages ago that i fund this out, back when i first started looking into this crap.

sorry just now im going for a wee walk and day trip with my lady and the baby so cant dig up this info for ya just now. maybe yu could do a lil investigatng. either way ill be back later to update you :)

I hope you had an enjoyable time; you need a rest form the masons and reptilians occasionally and no better way then with your partner and child :)

jesta_g

13-10-2008, 11:21 PM

lol yes a i had a great day thank you.

im long past looking into the masons and reptilians etc , one can only go so far with that shit:p

itsallundercontrol

14-10-2008, 12:18 AM

the name neo although of course being an anagram of the one refers to the word neophyte. A neophyte being an aspirant or begginer on the spiritual path.Common traits of a neophyte are being overwhelmed and over excited about the flood of new knowledge and spiritual experiences availible to them,the neophyte often begins to feel they are in some way special or chosen for great things they also often feel they have more insight and spiritual potential than others.
This of course leads to the fall off the razors edge how bad that is depends on how extreme the delusions were the neophyte then either gives up the spiritual path or bravely carrys on realising that they had been blinded of the unity of all existence and they had been using spirituality to enhance their own ego rather than submitting to the idea that we are all essentially one

haukipesukone

14-10-2008, 12:13 PM

The Illuminati Card Game - 1995 --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiwF_aEp4YI

Fuck, I have the game including the Terrorist Nuke card on the video.

i saw this game years ago i think they banned it months after realease(for obvious reasns). There is another more recent illuminati rpg card game that my friend has got. it has word for word what is happening today in it.

I don't think it was banned. There are two different Illuminati games by Steve Jackson games. The one on the video is Illuminati NWO, a collectible card game. The other is called just Illuminati, I think, which is more like a board game, but with cards. I think Illuminati came first, then NWO.

I think they still print Illuminati. I'm not sure when they stopped printing NWO, probably in the nineties. I bought my factory set (one copy of each card) of the game in 2003 in Finland.

I don't have the cards here, but when I get back to Finland I have to rummage through the cards. Now with a different viewpoint. Back then it was just a bit of fun.

qasrose

14-10-2008, 01:54 PM

For god sake not another Neo Passport thread, this shit is getting beyond a joke now

helloperator

14-10-2008, 01:57 PM

qasrose

14-10-2008, 02:16 PM

But come on man there's a lot of kids on this forum...little tikes just starting out in the world of conspiracy and kooky shit...they love this kind of stuff.

Let them cut their teeth on Neo's passport...and remember little dudes...

There is no spoon

But It's the fact that it's been posted over ten million times is really a big joke, and it's stuff like this that floods the forum.

It's the same with the October 14th shit.

helloperator

14-10-2008, 02:30 PM

gasrose...all you can see is spoons...when there aren't any spoons there

truth_junkie

14-10-2008, 02:43 PM

People on this thread are running wild on false assumptions. First of all, the Illuminati game has been around for a long long time - I had a version more than 20 years ago that looked very different from the one being attacked on this forum.
Second, the game is dripping with satirical humor. Jackson made a very fun game that poked fun at globabl conspiracy. Not that he was denying that conspiracy existed - he was just having fun with it. And it's one of my favorite games of all time.
I highly doubt he's on the "inside". In fact, the FBI raided his operation and stole all his computers when they thought he was hacking government secrets for one of his games. If he was one of "them" there would have been better communication.
Plus, he is the brilliant creator of "Car Wars" - go ahead and try to link the wonderful world of auto dueling to hidden agendas...
In conclusion, people are running away with false premises in regards to Jackson and his game. Look somewhere else.

qasrose

14-10-2008, 02:49 PM

gasrose...all you can see is spoons...when there aren't any spoons there

Learn spelling it's Qasrose

And how do you know what I see? I see people flooding forums with the same shit time after time again.

serenevasaline

14-10-2008, 03:13 PM

Learn spelling it's Qasrose.

hahaha, gasrose.

serenevasaline

14-10-2008, 03:16 PM

For god sake not another Neo Passport thread, this shit is getting beyond a joke now

what do you mean by neo passport?:confused:

nwoexposer

14-10-2008, 03:43 PM

In one of the Matrix films (forget which one it was exactly, pretty sure it was either Reloaded or Revolutions) there was a scene where Hitler was behind Neo on the screen panels in the background and a few seconds later Bush appeared as soon as the creator of the Matrix said "grotesque" or some word like that.

qasrose

14-10-2008, 03:47 PM

what do you mean by neo passport?:confused:

You laugh at calling me gasrose, yet you have no idea what the neo passport IS.. that's pure gold.

serenevasaline

14-10-2008, 06:49 PM

You laugh at calling me gasrose, yet you have no idea what the neo passport IS.. that's pure gold.

I don't get why I can't laugh at gasrose. You sound like you have issues with everyone. I've seen you on 2 threads moaning about the nature of the thread. You must be so bored. Why don't you cheer up. I only asked a question, gaaaawd!

EDIT:

Ok, i googled it. wow, you are soooo smart for knowing that info longer than me. wow!!!!!

haukipesukone

17-10-2008, 04:08 PM

I certainly wasn't accusing Steve Jackson of anything. It just seems there's more to the game I thought way back then.

The game may make light of serious matter, but you still learn something about conspiracies.

Although for a friend of mine the effect seems to be opposite. When I was talking something about how bigger conspiracies control smallet ones, he said that that might work on Illuminati NWO, but not in real life.

narcolepticwatchman

17-10-2008, 06:35 PM

Remember there is a 1 in 365 chance it would be 9/11 so a coincidence is quite possible.

Yeah but its 11 Sept 01......multiply that 365 by 10 (the duration of a passports validity)......looks even less like coincidence when you consider that they got the year spot on as well.

qasrose

17-10-2008, 06:44 PM

I don't get why I can't laugh at gasrose. You sound like you have issues with everyone. I've seen you on 2 threads moaning about the nature of the thread. You must be so bored. Why don't you cheer up. I only asked a question, gaaaawd!

EDIT:

Ok, i googled it. wow, you are soooo smart for knowing that info longer than me. wow!!!!!

You need to re read my posts on this thread, since when have I been moaning? Did I tell you, you could not laugh at gasrose. No so stop putting words into my mouth please. I only corrected you. laughing at gasrose isn't a question.. And wow I'm shocked that you have learned how to use google. WOW man you must be very brave to understand how a search button works.

Bravo

raptorialis

17-10-2008, 07:53 PM

If you worked in the games industry you would know that anything is possible.
;)

People on this thread are running wild on false assumptions. First of all, the Illuminati game has been around for a long long time - I had a version more than 20 years ago that looked very different from the one being attacked on this forum.
Second, the game is dripping with satirical humor. Jackson made a very fun game that poked fun at globabl conspiracy. Not that he was denying that conspiracy existed - he was just having fun with it. And it's one of my favorite games of all time.
I highly doubt he's on the "inside". In fact, the FBI raided his operation and stole all his computers when they thought he was hacking government secrets for one of his games. If he was one of "them" there would have been better communication.
Plus, he is the brilliant creator of "Car Wars" - go ahead and try to link the wonderful world of auto dueling to hidden agendas...
In conclusion, people are running away with false premises in regards to Jackson and his game. Look somewhere else.

serenevasaline

17-10-2008, 08:53 PM

You need to re read my posts on this thread, since when have I been moaning? Did I tell you, you could not laugh at gasrose. No so stop putting words into my mouth please. I only corrected you. laughing at gasrose isn't a question.. And wow I'm shocked that you have learned how to use google. WOW man you must be very brave to understand how a search button works.

Bravo

ok , i cant be arsed with bad forum feeling. Just didnt get why you were not at all helpful when i asked you a question. I love you really